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[Music] spe [Music] Mee [Music] JM in the AM tuav morning at America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listeners sponsored wfm star Eng W mfu Mount Hope Rockland County at 91.9 on the FM dial around the world in the web j.org and that's one of the reasons we played Maha because today's tuba of Miriam El wallik is here she's been producing our radio shows from Israel and leading the N seagull Network and I say good morning to you good morning sir do you see how mellow I am how calm I am you are so chilled I barely recognize these environs isn't it beautiful isn't it incredible it's nice tell you gave me no props for your being totally chilled just want to make sure that that that's clear I evidentally bring no sense of calm it has to do with the environment that I'm in right now that beautiful blue sky we really should move here if this is what you'd be like every morning the incredible old city of Jerusalem yeah this is pretty great looking around nice new office you built me here seeing this incredible site yeah it really is remarkable yeah it's gonna be pretty tough to be in Jersey City Wednesday morning yeah that's true um so we've had quite a journey so far we've uh gone to some interesting places this has been a remarkable trip people um have already reacted over the weekend about the radio show from St road that took place on Friday M we were there during a red alert yes the only person who didn't duck in the room you and You' think I would have had to have do done more duck than anybody else a little bit but there was um there was a show going on exactly Show Must Go On right thank God Rockets no Rockets because unfortunately there were there were some people that you know had a really rough Friday because of that because of what was going on in STO thank God we were not uh we weren't hit but um there's something about being in that whole experience and seeing what people go through on a regular basis thank God and I hope that it's still holding when the radio show is actually on the air four hours from now but thank SC as we record here at the Inbal Hotel on Monday morning there's a ceasefire in effect um they in fact did cease to fire this was not one of those cases where Israel ceased and they fired right this is what wasn't one of those uh Lucy and uh Charlie Brown moments is that what you call it yeah you've reduced the war to to I don't know about that but it's a metaphor for people who understand the uh peanuts column and um hopefully it'll hold and hopefully things will be peaceful here and Hope uh even with the the peace and calm that we anticipate and pray for hopefully the Israel Defense Forces and the I will be able to do what needs to be done in order to curtail the activities of the enemy that's what we pray for and we pray for it every day some people thought that I was a drop I don't know a drop um over the top when it came to my discussion about North American Jews and their attitude toward traveling to Israel right now who felt that way a few people felt a few people felt that was a little too harsh no way that I that I took the liberty to to uh to express myself in a very free flowing manner it's your show boss and and and look I mean the the bottom line is that uh you know when you have a when you have a certain passion a certain position a certain you know feeling a certain attitude it's difficult to uh it's difficult to adjust otherwise and I felt based on our investigation here and it's not like we're these you know investigative report we're not investigative reporters just based on casual conversation with Hotel years and storekeepers and cab drivers and others affected by the tourism industry one of the only industries that we could have a direct effect on because we're from North America uh they were pretty disappointed and beyond that I think they were pretty angry they were pretty angry that not only did North American Jews stay away and cancel trips like they've done many times before shockingly enough but they did so in the month of August we are the weakest link that's correct they did so that we did so I should say during the most important tourism month of the entire year the French are still here that's true the French are still here plenty of French Jews are here plenty of people from Europe are vacationing here a lot of non-jews are vacationing here absolutely we've seen some really interesting eclectic groups singing he singing Hebrew songs throughout Jerusalem yes people who don't look like they grew up with Hebrew songs frankly we should also note by the way that we have seen a definite increase in foot traffic um but just normal everyday people coming out of their homes and enjoying the outdoors and seeing families outside and enjoying the beach and doing this and just the streets are more filled with people now those again those are not tourists from North America those are those are jerusalemites and and Israelis just coming out of their homes and feeling a a sense of calm and security and and hopefully peace that allows them to walk out of their maamad and walk out of their homes and try and get back into real life we had a meeting yesterday on the legendary ROV hayone in Tel Aviv and and what everybody was happiest about is that finally people in the hundreds and thousands started flocking back to the beaches was they regular tourists in Israel were avoiding coming outside and and being part of anything as all this was going on and we pointed out we were here two weeks ago and we pointed out that even in the few hours we were here and just talking to friends and relatives during those few hours when we arrived with denish Manish flight uh it is such a different atmosphere now it is so there's so much calmer lot less tension people we know thank God are seeing uh most of your loved ones thank God come back from uh from Gaza at this point I got an email yesterday from somebody who um was asking me a business question and wrote something to the effect of I hope you're enjoying your trip despite the situation and I wrote back to him and I said I appreciate your good wishes but I have to tell you this is probably one of the best trips I've ever taken and certainly up there in terms of our business trips to Israel this has been an absolutely incredible incredible experience and while um some may have been critical of you and your stance I I can only reiterate that this is the time to come and frankly if you were if you were on the fence about coming for sukot you should do it oh sukot you should do it there are people begging people to plan trips now for the end of August uh and also we should point out that um this trip was planned a couple of months ago because of whole neish bfish thing and we had other things planned that didn't exactly work out materialize but U but well they did materialized until the last minute things had to be bounced around because of the situation but uh but um many people thought oh now that the now that the situation is the way it is I guess you're going to be avoiding your trip to Israel and of course it was the exact opposite we said we're going to make sure to be here no matter what all right coming up in five minutes right after the next election on Friday we're in stay Road and we met a lot of incredible people people and and one of the experiences we've had together is meeting all these American soldiers yes 31y old from Brooklyn New York who who had the most amazing analysis of joining the Israeli Army 27-year-old Gabby uh K from that name is gonna stick with us by the way from Kushner Yeshiva high school and MOA in Livingston New Jersey and C mosa props C mosa they're always at the top of the list unreal Larry Waxman sitting here he he and I are telepathically acknowledging that as great as all of our summer camps have when it comes to Israel M Shaban might be number one well they were incredible at the rally they were unbelievable at the rally I I knew that the uh I I knew that their presence would be felt and as the other camps attended and believe me you know our camps we were very high in the way they treated that day and the way the kids participated but of course mosa found a way to make it into an entire Rec and big Israel celebration uh anyway so one of the people we met on Friday was a was a student the only American student in the and St Road St Ro has over 500 students in area Shiva there's one American he is the American program right he is from pic New Jersey five minutes from now after this election we're going to play that interview what happened was because of a technical glitch it didn't get into Friday's show we'll meet him virtually through the airwaves coming up in just a few minutes right here at JM and am also Dr Rich Roberts is in our makeshift Studio he's arrived from New Jersey for one reason and I guarantee you it's for one reason because I see that he's on crutches which means he probably could have use the time to recover from whatever he's suffering from instead he said I'm getting on a plane and coming to Israel to express solidarity and do what we've just demanded that everybody do is plan a trip and get here as soon as possible so he'll join us toward the end of this hour coming up as well at JM I mentioned Larry he's going to join us because he's celebrating 30 years in Israel August 1984 we said goodbye to him in Mara after Chev bras and we said enjoy Israel and here he is 30 years later our friends in the Inbal hotel are going to be joining us of course they are hosts here today and throughout out in our entire visit so our friends in the Inbal Hotel LED This Time by Alex Herman and Joanne ODS they've been amazing for us in terms of setting up today's show they're going to be joining us coming up and the rumor is that R by Steve Berg is going to bring a candidate for congress correct to our studio here this morning at the Inbal Hotel on the ninth floor executive Lounge so we'll hopefully meet both of them uh coming up as well and who knows what other surprises will be happening uh don't forget tomorrow morning we're in the airport in the old terminal when neish Benish lands with over 3 30 oim in the big August uh the big August Journey to the Holy Land that's happening um that's happening uh tomorrow morning flight lands about 7: am Israel time we'll pre-record our jamam show from the airport we'll have an opportunity to meet some of the heroes of Israel uh tomorrow on this radio program also want toh say good morning to Rabbi Nate seagull who is here he joined us Friday with some amazing commentary on the beautiful aasa saer Tor was a greatus to have him with us and don't worry Staten Island he be back soon but we get to be the beneficiaries of his leadership during this trip and my nephew schlomo seagull is here we had the most enjoyable shopas together and he is here one of the uh um one of the many students who come to spend more than a year he's been here more than a year already uh studying Torah in Jerusalem and I'm glad he was able to be here this morning as we broadcast at JM in the am this is the song that Lenny Solomon wrote last week to commemorate the uh the hope of uh in light of the war in Gaza Lenny uh for us on a tuav morning at JM in the AM [Music] I'm [Music] is Lord oh I'm [Music] Isel is sh I'm is [Music] I'm [Music] not I'm [Music] [Applause] [Music] I'm Lord you sh [Music] [Applause] [Music] I'm I'm [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh JM in the am good morning New York good morning New Jersey good morning world we're in h the Inbal hotel in the beautiful Jerusalem they've been our hosts here for this incredible trip we're calling it a solidarity Mission although frankly we had planned this trip long ago and our desire to get here just got strong as things uh got a little tense here in the Holy Land things are certainly calmer uh this week compared to a couple of weeks ago and we pray for the uh Safety and Security of the entire land and for the amazing IDF and iaf to do what is necessary to curtail the enemy's activities the ceasefire at least while we're recording the show is still in effect and hopefully it'll stay in effect for a lot longer than just these 72 hours while at the same time the IDF will be able to do what is necessary I I mentioned that on Friday uh Inay Road this was I believe the only interview that did not get onto the air because of a technical glitch that we had but this was a conversation that we had with the entire stot yiva American program one young man out of 500 named mosha Schwarz who is um studying in St Road he's from pic New Jersey we ask him why he's in St Road uh what his impressions are etc etc here is what that conversation sounded like this past Friday when we were in St Road you're listening to JM in the AM mosha Schwarz is here anything but a typical Pake New Jersey youngster uh mosha Schwarz welcome to JM in the am thank you thanks for having me you ever hear of this show before yeah you know they listen in stay Road huh so give me the uh give me the load down you go to elementary school in New Jersey I assume yeah I and then I went to I started off in uh YZ y uh small yiva in man I went there for two years and then I switched into MCA I finished off high school I uh then went on toat T learned there my Shan Alf and then a little bit into my shanet I switched into sto right and uh how you even find out about sto had had you visited here during Shan Olive Well I I I went for one CH as you know to check out just like you know you know St Road sounds like a cool place to visit and when I got here you know I saw the Yeshiva and I was very impressed you know they're very serious people here um the I feel the Yeshiva almost it's like a prototype for yeshivas in Israel to a certain extent the way that it interacts with the community we're not just a Yeshiva that is located in St we are the Yeshiva of stot and I thought that was something very special something I want to be a part of there are no other American students American meaning American students whose parents are still in the United States in stad at this time correct they are they are not you're the only one does that make it I don't know difficult for you it's not a big deal how would you describe I mean in the beginning it was pretty rough I mean when I got there you know people like you know how are you what's your name and I had no idea it was flying I I didn't know any Hebrew but um you know you battle through it you work through it and then you know it's very gratifying now to be where I am that I you know more or less I understand what's going on are people in New Jersey concerned for your safety well yeah you know people in New Jersey they hear of St and they think oh so you're learning in Gaza that's what's going on you know but um I mean the Yesa you know obviously you have to be very careful you know when you hear sadome you go to a shelter and in addition to that you know we have like you know the Star Wars gr Weaponry in the Iron Dome and you know we have a great Army we also learn here we feel that you know that helps this the situation and you know barash you know in the last round of fighting I don't think there are any um f fertilities uh in steros uh how many soldiers have passed through here over the last month it's been great there have been a lot I mean it started off with a maybe around a hundred that came in and uh and then just more came I think one the Friday morning just a few weeks ago was like you know four or 500 you know soldiers just came in and uh it was great we had shabas with them and it was just it was really you know probably the best jobus I've ever had in my life it was very amazing experience mosa Schwarz is here from B New Jersey uh now stay Road uh did the ASA students have a role in helping the soldiers were the stuff that you were doing as a volunteer or any way helping them well Absol I mean you know we were sharing dorms with them um you know they were very I think grateful for the fact that you know how you know warm and welcome we are I mean one soldier mentioned that there's a certain feeling you get when you go home and you see your family and you see your parents and he said he felt that when he came to our Yeshiva this is a kilon soldier uh and you know it's very special to feel that you're in a position where you're able to actually you know like make a difference to certain extent these are people who have been in Gaz and or were returning for shabas or people who are on their way out to Gaz I mean you just feel you know life is more real in St roads uh is this the beginning of an American program in the ISA and St Road are you going to be the first of what will be hundreds of students whose parents and families are back in the United States but they're coming to study here yeah I hope so I mean we actually trying to start an American program it's sort of hard to pull Americans to stir up by virtue of you know its reputation of being you know kind of in Gaza as people would consider it from America but it's really an amazing place and you know the people here really excited to meet Americans to see Americans see Americans in the Yeshiva they've been extraordinarily welcoming to me anyone out there who's interested in learning stero you notes it's a great opportunity are you going to remain here through the rest of this summer and then you know for even more than that yeah I plan on drafting a mem with the Yeshiva this coming March draft um uh so I'll be in the so I'll be in the Yeshiva till March and then I'll be drafting into the army right with with boys your age yeah with the guys in my Shear wow unbelievable well callot to you a pleasure meeting you what message should we give back to the people in New Jersey you know I mean it's uh you know it wasn't easy for me you know coming into St Ro but uh you know there are easier paths to coming here you know I mean people talk about you know is it to is it R to make at the end of the day I mean you know our entire story of our history have been getting to Israel and getting kicked out of Israel I mean at this point it's time to get back kakav thank you so much amazing mosa Schwarz one of the Prides of the Garden State from pic New Jersey thank you for joining me today kavod and enjoy your shabas naku and stay Ro that was from Friday that was the conversation with mosa Schwarz um who really was was and is an incredible young man uh Miriam wallik I have news for you tonight starts the is it tonight or last night started the uh Festival in new shim is it no tonight the 11th of August right the what do they call it the um is tonight M song so I found out who's uh performing tonight there we go yeah oh really who it's an incredible lineup they have another musical performer every single night schlom shabbat who did the concert with the schi okay in the noia center he's tonight that's cool so last night for you in Jerusalem here's your chance I'm going left side so shomi Shabbat you'll have an opportunity Larry Waxman is here he uh was listening attentively to Mosa schwarz's words because he's constantly Amazed by the Youth of the United States who decide to come to Israel and is always fascinated by their backgrounds Larry Waxman mazal on 30 years living in Israel from all of us at JM and the am thank you time flies when you're having fun has it been fun for 30 years been some rough times here in the Holy Land I've gone through a lot of rough times I have to tell you that this is this may be one of the most difficult um a lot of things here are personal we take everything personally unfortunately in the United States when a soldier is killed you here a soldier was killed here we could tell you everything about them we could tell you their names we could tell you their bios some of them are real real heroes in the in the true I should say American sense but what we recognize in America as Heroes gibo rim and a lot of these gibo Rim have fallen during this War uh 64 I think is the total number of IDF soldiers 64 soldiers three civilians but you pointed out to me many times over the last few days imagine and it is a sacrifice obviously but imagine how many Rockets have fallen and how low the civilian casualty is because if you look at the laws of percentages God forbid how many people could have been lost about 3,400 Rockets give or take which is unbelievable and you know what kind of damage that could have been that could have uh if I can just elaborate I don't know if you want to quote Miracles coincidences what you want to how how you want to describe it but there are so many things that have happened some of which are by firsthand uh people recollection some of them we see directly all of them you could say they're coincidences but when you you put them all together you have to say that there's a Divine hand helping us and of course it's is there's no question in my mind that we have Divine assistance on our side a real Iron Dome a real Iron Dome well the fact you have to you have to go back a step the fact that the Iron Dome was developed in time for this and secondly the fact that it worked hadn't been it was tested but that doesn't mean it was going to work like it works has worked to the point where people just rely on it oh far rocki goes off we know where people go to the roof to take pictures of it yeah but they don't they don't understand that when a when a when a rocket is destroyed they shrapnel right and you have to be careful my niece went to a a pool where she goes to swim and there was shrapnel in the pool from an earlier attack so we can't minimize the danger certainly but uh what it does in terms of protecting people here is unbelievable all right so take me back to the summer of 1984 how far before that did you decide to make Aliah officially or before I always knew I was going to make Alia my question had only been in my mind do you want to go retired or productive and I decided to go productive and about a year or two before that I had decided I'm going to make Aliah I originally planned September 84 but some other things changed into October but um Oh I thought you literally left at the end of August that's funny no no I left on October 10th but uh well I couldn't left at the end I got married at the end of right I thought you left at the show no I left a month later but um the the idea was to come and I gave notice to everybody and it's interesting I had a very important position a new position in yiv University and I was teaching all those years and I didn't not only didn't I get OS even in Mar I didn't get opposition I got things which were equivalent to the kak kote good good for you and one of the people who really encouraged me even when I got here was Ken bravender wow he always did and the things have worked out nicely since then bar I can tell you something I've never looked back never said to myself why did I come here or we made a mistake or something it it it the thought never even crossed my mind do you know that um before neish Benish existed you were neish Benish for a lot of people know they would turn to you for advice first of all you were always very practical you were always very organized so you knew you know to to tell people how to be mudar in this entire process a a process that's very difficult to stay mudar in right and they would ask you for you know each step of the way what am I doing right what am I doing wrong you even what should I do yeah you even were smart enough in certain Cas is to hold back certain information not to discourage people or to allude to the fact that something might go wrong you're right that it has to be that way you can beat I don't want to say beat the system because you can't beat the system but you can learn how to work work the system and work within the system and you learn the things that you it doesn't tell you to be prepared for I'll give you an example you learn when you go into an office some you always have with you pictures you always have with you all the information that you think that they won't ask for cuz they're going to ask because they're going to ask and you have to go back and come and get line again and it takes a long time each time you get on that line that's right you don't want to you don't want to do it more than once oh the very good tips from you then neish Benish comes around and you know your job gets easier neish Benish was a was a br because before NE B you B basically dealt with the Jewish agency and theim my I think became a open The Pizza Store New Jersey um it it was not they weren't as helpful as they could have been and not only that they didn't have they never had the ideas that neish benfish did such as having people from ISAT Pim on the plane and doing things and easing things instead of putting up every obstacle you can imagine it was just the opposite so people came through neish Bish half the problem was solved coming out coming off the airplane with your papers and your or your or even even information onim these are Big steps these are important steps you you know you take it lightly and you make a mistake you can't undo the mistake easily at what point in the last 30 years did you finally say to yourself you know I'm an Israeli you know I am a I'm American Israeli all right but I'm a real resident here like at what point that was right away there was no episode or a point where you started thinking in Hebrew or anything like that I still don't think in Hebrew you still think in most people think in their in their native language actually the trick is you ask them to count well what language they do their what calculations that's the that's the that's their their native language truth is I always felt that way I I knew what I was getting into I knew the country very well I had been coming here you remember that every year in fact I had even spent a sabatical year here so I really knew what I was getting into uh and I always felt as soon as I came I'm now now I'm officially in Israeli that doesn't mean I'm not I'm not an American citizen we pay taxes just like everybody else but but you felt right away that I'm I I belong here this is my place uh what do you say to people who are considering moving to Israel a lot of North Americans listening to this program right now well the French are moving because they have to right only the Smart Ones are um I have to say that it's not for everybody you know it sounds funny you have to it has to be right for you I also say there are windows when someone says oh I'm not coming this year that doesn't mean you can come next year because there are windows there your children there's education there's a lot of things that that take place so God opens up certain wind or whatever you want to say how if God opens it up or it just happens naturally there are certain windows in your life miss it you got to wait till the window opens again so you have to make sure it's for you don't expect everything to be ready for you or everything to be good for you but I always had a few pieces of advice number one getting a job the chances of you getting a job while you're still in America are slim and if you get it you don't know you you're going to come and you're hear the words on M I'm terribly sorry we told you you're not we're not going to do often because they don't know if you're really going to come because people got messed up enough that they said they were coming they made all the the organization here or the company here made all the plans and they said oh we decided we're coming next year so first of all there be here second of all to be very flexible you can't say because I did this particular thing in America and I have to have this particular type of job you won't get it what my advice always has been find something that you personally excel in because if you go up against an Israeli who has the same qualifications as you do you won't get the job because he has a he has a cousin you don't have and knows the language better than you do that that even even when that's not the problem but there are enough things here which really almost everybody has special talents and those talents and you'll see the most successful people are that way they found an each that they could fit in and do better than everybody else and and then they're very happy here finally I have to acknowledge that without you I wouldn't be where I am now uh you're one of the key people in uh in getting me this gig so to speak you mentioned the new job at yes University 30 years ago that was a key for me in terms of uh getting to WFMU originally so I thank you all these years later I have to answer it's one thing I was talking before about things that are coincidental this was another example of the coincidences if I can tell the just part of the story I know you've told it before uh nak had come into me in my office my new office as director of Student Activities and one of the things he had told me uh was that he wanted he had wanted this job and they gave it to somebody else without a without any kind of reason or anything good somebody's cousin right and he was disappointed that passed and a few months later I got a phone call from Norman lter who started to introduce himself I said you don't have to introduce yourself I know who you are he's looking for somebody to lead this to take over the show I said but you got a new guy he says he's got he's history so I said I have the perfect person there a person he's the he's the director of w the Y University's radio station I know him very well he's reliable he's everything like that and that's how the shid was made there were little rough spots in the beginning as you recall but the morning the next morning I was on the air yeah unbelievable maal Larry thank you to you and Marshall Waxman it's been an amazing 30 years in ours it certainly has it happened back in October of 1983 and I thank you for being here today 84 1984 excuse me how could I say 30 years uh and I thank you for being here today it's my pleasure TOA here we are at the and thank you for coming I appreciate that we appreciate that Inbal Hotel everybody ninth floor executive Lounge pet on the patio overlooking the old city heard by dou goldwaser word here is Rabbi goldwaser with morning oh just a moment that was my technical mistake there we go we need this in here don't we uh Rabbi D Gold's words um here on a Monday morning tuav at JM in the am here he is with morning kiz good morning it says in usually in order for a people to become a nation they have to dwell in the same land where they were born and raised if they become uprooted from their land and have to move elsewhere they can't always maintain their own nationality B Israel however became a nation before they reached ER isra we have always been a nation no matter which land we have gone to the Y explains that the same language is employed with reference to arel the Holy Land as the expression that is used for the [Music] tahu commanded us the Torah it is an inheritance kilas yov for theil of yov because the inheritance of Israel is not something that a person has an everlasting to we have this privilege if we live a life according to Torah our claim to ER Israel depends on CLA Isel guarding our nationality through in Torah learning the M says the fact that we have a today is a nce it's a miracle it is among the great kodim that Hashem has bestowed upon his Nation we are able to come from one extreme the point of Corbin eropa the Holocaust to The Other Extreme and reestablish the yeshivas in the great centers of yides kite init Isel we have to remember though there is an ER and an erel sh one that is below and one that is above they both must exist simultaneously we say in daving it has been thousands of years since we've gone into galus into the Exile how how does the AA the great love remain in our heart the Miko explains it's because of the Holiness of arat Israel that kadha continues to draw Us near no matter how long the bitter Gus is this is the yusha The Inheritance that we have from Abraham aino he was mes he self-sacrificed for the nission the challenge of the T of the B re shom of bells had drawn water for the M Shalo the special water which is used to bake matzas when they finished their task they were leaving the water overnight to use the next day they wished the rebi next year in Yim the rebi asked why next year we can take this water that we drew today and we can bake matus inim and eat them in the presence of mhia tomorrow this has been Rabbi David goldwaser bringing you morning kisuk have a nice day J and the am always special when by goldw addresses our uh and mentions Jerusalem and speaks about Jerusalem especially when we're here in Jerusalem uh it is a Monday broadcast on this tuav at JM in the AM and we're at the Inbal Hotel overlooking the holy city shimmy Stein is here everybody yes shimmy Stein has stopped by to say hello