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So, the old Mahal Seagull, any excuse I could find to discuss the New York Yankees on the air. And thank God Max Mannis is around. Max Mannis is a uh an Orthodox Jewish young man who works for John Boy. Those of you who are familiar, it's one of the outlets that's always talking about the New York Yankees. He's been there for parts of the last six seasons. He was born and raised in New York City. A Hessel graduate. Got hired Mid Shana Olive at YTVA. Isn't that funny? We were just uh speaking yesterday to Rabbi Scythe and Reboshua from YTVA. They must be proud that Max is an alum. He always wanted to work in baseball and now of course he has the opportunity to do it. He also says he tries to use it to promote Yiddishite and Amusel which of course we love featuring people who do that. Max Mannis, a pleasure to welcome you to JM in the AM. >> Yeah, thank you. And I was going to say it's an honor to have followed up like Gdolan like that yesterday. I was laughing when I saw I said that in the YTVA WhatsApp chat. So listen, like you said, any excuse I have to yap about the Yankees. It's, you know, I'm it's kind of my day job, but I like to do it in my free time. Anyway, >> I mean I mean did you did you ask Aaron Judge for a contribution for the YTVA campaign or not? I need to know. I mean, come on. You know, >> it didn't listen it didn't come up this time, but we'll have to, you know, keep it moving. Maybe a year or two down the line. >> I mean, the guy makes a few dollars. All right, Max, let's get right into it. Why are the Yankees not telling us when Jason Dominguez is coming back? >> Um, I mean, probably because he's got to like actually get all the MRIs and all that stuff first. But yeah, that was a bummer yesterday. I think uh he's been dealt quite a few quite a few tough hands in his career as it pertains to injuries and kind of his development. There's some stuff that I think you could pin on the Yankees. I think a lot of it is kind of dumb luck, but yeah, thanks for him. is kind of about to get like uh at least probably a few weeks if not like a month, however long Stanton is out. I think they were kind of just going to give him the runway of like, hey, you're the you're the DH every day against righties. So to see that yesterday really sucked. But you know what, it's it's overall it's been a solid season before. So far be it for me to to harp on the on the complaints. >> No, I got that. But I I do agree with you. They've completely mishandled him. But I guess that's for a conversation for another day. So you have no clue if he's available tomorrow or if he's out for a month. You have no idea. I I know as much as you do. You know, I think we'll probably get a report later today because they said it was in Texas. He wasn't able to get the MRI and all that yet, but I don't know. He was in pretty significant pain yesterday. >> It was get it was getaway day. They had to make sure he got to a New York hospital. Ah, the little intricacies of what you need to know to follow the Yankees and report on them accurately. Pretty amazing. So, I mean, look, it's uh I don't want to say it's every kid's dream, but I could certainly speak for those who uh dreamt about it years ago. uh to work in sports and to work, you know, uh in a job that does have you talking about the Yankees all day long and at the same time being able to maintain one's Orthodox Judaism and Jewish pride and everything else. I mean, I I I mean, look, baseball's a 7 day a week at this point, 24-hour a day industry. Uh h has being a Shmer Shabas been uh you know, really detrimental as your career continues to advance? Um, listen, I mean, like, I'm not going to sit here and say it's sunshine and rainbows every day. Like, there's definitely conflict. There's definitely times where you have to be willing to kind of, you know, balance a lot of things that, you know, maybe a lot of other people in the sports industry, it's a little bit like like, you know, it sounds like you're speaking in Chinese hieroglyphics or whatever to them when they say like you got to think, you don't go on your phone on, you know, for two games Friday night and Saturday day out of the week. Um, but yeah, I mean, listen, I've always said at the end of the day, like it's who I am. These are two things that were very important to me. I mean, there were times definitely when I was younger where a lot of people in the Jewish world kind of thought it was a little bit insane for somebody like me to be wanting to follow this type of path. And then now there are times where people who have followed this type of path probably think it's a little bit insane for me to be doing the whole kooky religious thing. But at the end of the day, it's you know, it's who I am. And those are two things that really really matter to me. So, you know, you kind of you do what you got to do. And I one thing that I always say is that I think um there's a lot of people I mean like certainly Jewish people in the industry don't get me wrong that respect and that you know it kind of earns some brownie points with them and they look at that even if they're you know whatever degree of religious and they tip the cap a little bit. Um but I also say that I think there are other people who really know very little or kind of don't care you know whatsoever about anything like that. But I think for them to just see, oh, this is a person who's kind of not just taking the unconventional route, but is willing to stand up for what he believes and willing to be firm in his belief, willing to, you know, kind of take the the unbeaten path a little bit. I think a lot of people kind of look at that and they say like, you know, hey, I think, you know, it it earns a little bit more respect than if you know anything about this show, we really tip our cap to you, frankly. I mean, I think it's amazing. Do you do you have colleagues? Are there any is there an Orthodox Jew following the Diamondbacks every day? I like that. Do you have people are there people in the league who who have your background? You're the lone guy. >> Yeah, there was one other Well, there was one other guy who was working at Johnboy for a few years, unfortunately, left a few months ago to kind of go start a new exciting new endeavor. So, I missed I definitely missed having him around. He was very much a favorite around the office. Jeremy Shner, shout out if he's listening. Um, but yeah, as far as within the industry, there is there's a couple other people. There's a guy named Zack Rab I know who's awesome who works for MLDD doing stuff on the minor league side. I know a guy named Noah Burgerer who does some stuff used to do a lot of stuff covering the Marlins and various other parts of baseball. So listen, you know, all the all the people in baseball. It's, you know, it's not the biggest pool. So we tend to we tend to stick together, but yeah, not the not the most plentiful, but that's that's what makes it all the more cool. >> And I know that you weren't around in the 70s and 80s. I get that. But I wonder if from your vantage point if you think back then there would still have been a role for you. Again, that's the era where, you know, people like me were dreaming about stuff like this. Is it is it easier today? Are there just so many more opportunities? Uh so you know people are willing to to put up with the you know with with the shabas element of it like you know what do you think the difference is and do you think years ago this could have been done? >> Yeah, that's a good question. I think that probably kind of just the landscape of media as a whole looked so different then than it does now and the landscape of media then. And you know you don't even have to go that far back. I think even if you go back like 15 years ago, it was kind of like media. If you covered baseball, that meant you were a V reporter and that meant you were in the clubhouse on these days and you do this and you do that and it was very cut and dry and it was like this is what a career in baseball media looks like. And that's changed a lot now. And I think that um I think there are pros and cons to any any, you know, any balance, any trade-off, any level of things. Um but yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. You got me thinking. Now, I do think it's probably easier now just because there's, you know, there's more creativity, I would say, and more kind of uh everybody has their own level of leeway to do. >> Yeah. I mean, I mean, in those days, if the radio station, TV station, or newspaper was not willing to hire you, you were finished. There was nothing else to do. Here you have Here you have avenues that are unique. You know what got your got me uh uh what caught my attention and why really what led to me inviting you on the air uh was your interview with Dusty Baker. I didn't realize that he had a he had an acquaintance that is an Orthodox Jew and that he's made the effort. >> He's made and by the way, I'm so curious if it's the legendary Mik family from Toronto. I wonder if it's the same. >> It is. It's the MN family from Toronto. Meaning know the family beyond Yoni, but Yoni Rock. >> Well, that's what I mean. Meaning when I say legendary Mik family, um there was a legendary Mik family in Toronto involved in Jewish music. So, I wonder if they're the same. But anyway, I could find that out on my own. But but I I I heard you speak to him and the level of respect that he has for orthodox Judaism for those of all religions who you know make a commitment to you know have a certain discipline etc. I thought was really cool and I think it worked out really well in the whole baseball discussion because frankly baseball is a really disciplined you know routine as well. So I don't want to call I don't want to call baseball a religion but I but I sort of felt there were some parallels there. >> No. Yeah. I've I've dwelled on that a lot that I think between there's a lot of similarities whether it's the history the you know kind of the question of how much do we value tradition verse kind of embrace you know the modern world there's there's a whole lot there you know um but yeah that was really really cool the first time I met Yion who like I said I have a big time shout out to from guy who works at boardroom which was Kevin Durant and Rich Kimman's very successful media company um and yeah the first time that I spoke to him one of the first things he said to me was Dusty Baker and I are super tight so yeah I kind of always had in the back of my head that would be a really you know, really cool guest to have on a podcast one day. Um, you know, had to kind of wait for the right time to to cash in that that chip, if you will. But yeah, for, you know, there was a part of myself that almost had to like I'll kind of pinch myself but also keep from laughing when I was just thinking about like I'm having a future Hall of Fame manager on my podcast right now and we're talking about Kashra. My how did my sequence of how did the sequence of events in my life need here? >> All right. So, you you got to do me a favor. just when you text him next, you're going to ask him if he's related to the uh legendary Shifty Mick. You're going to you're going to let me know. Uh Max Mannis is with us. We're talking New York Yankees, John Boy Media, and his uh incredible role with his wonderful background. Uh shout out to YTVA, and of course all the other schools he's been to. Um so let me ask you a couple of questions. Um we talk about tradition. So, are you for or against the Yankees obtaining or implementing some type of alternate uniform? >> Oh, I thought you were about to ask about ABS. Um, >> listen, man. I my response to that is kind of the same as it pertains to the beards and all that all those changes when all that, you know, drama happened last year, right? I feel like it's a thing a lot of people have a very strong take one way or another. If it was up to me, I probably wouldn't change it, but like above all else, go win. You know what I mean? I don't really have it me to kind of get bogged down in a lot of those. >> So, you like you like victories. >> Yeah. Listen, I I always say I had the worst timing of all time and that 2010 was the first year that I chose to like actually be dialed in on baseball. So, you know, we're going on almost two decades now and no ring. >> Well, you know, I'll give I'll give you the opposite perspective. my late brother whose birthday happens to be today. My late brother was born in 1951. He was 10 years old for Mantel Maris and and then the and then this subsequent incredible you know championship run or at least America League pennet/ championship run through 1964. I am always jealous of the Yankee experience he had. Although although I did come close because obviously as a teenager I was enjoying the Thurman and Reggie Yankees. So, so I I got to be careful in terms of uh of um you know, lamenting how many championships I missed. Uh because as uh as you would agree, a lot of people would be jealous of my run. Um you bring up ABS. I'll be honest with you, I never thought it would work as well as it has. I can't stand the uh extra innings runner on second base. I don't like inter league play. So, I really am a traditionalist. guess Bob Kasus would probably call me a traditionalist, but I thought ABS would ruin the game. I think it's only enhanced it. What do you think? >> Yeah, I think at the end of the day, like just, you know, there's anybody can nitpick any kind of change. I understand there are people who are always kind of just going to be nostalgic for whatever version of the game you grew up in. And I can't hate on that. But I think at the end of the day, like thinking back to the fact that we used to have bad calls to side games, like as recently as in March, the USA versus DRWBC game that ended on a bad 3-2 pitch to call to Heraldo Purdomo, right? Everybody was kind of watching that being like, "This might be the last time in a very long time that we've watched a game actually truly get decided by this." And that's that's kind of crazy. Like I think also this is a good point that John Boy should give a shout out to my boss um that I'll steal this point from him is that he said it feels like when you have a challenge go your way it feels awesome and when one goes against you it doesn't it doesn't feel like >> oh like it feels like no like that's how that's supposed to go like >> it is a momentum it is a momentum changer. It is a momentum changer for sure. >> Yeah. By the way, by the way, yesterday's game, >> right? In yesterday's game, we had a momentum changer with a a call early in the game. Uh, right. Elmer had a a ball that was turned into a strike. Correct. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, and it would have And because it wasn't a strike out, he ends up throwing out the runner at second. So, like, correct. That's the difference between no one on two outs or two on and no out for a dude in the first inning of his MLB career. Yeah. Kind of at all, >> by the way. Uh, and I know it's so funny. They always say, you know, every every time you watch a baseball game, you learn something new. And I know that's an exaggeration, but it's sort of true. >> I I I didn't real I didn't realize if you get hit by a pitch, you could actually strike out on the same pitch. >> Yeah. As long as you swing. One one of the ones that kind of blew my mind that I didn't know until a few years ago was if a pitch bounces and then hits the hitter, it still counts as a hit by pitch, right? I I watched that and I was like, I've watched baseball for almost two decades. And how did I not know that? >> But on the one on the one that I on the one that I just brought up, would they if if it wasn't the third strike, would they have put him on first base or not? Like is it is it the same rule if it's one strike? >> No, I I think it's a swing regardless. I think it's a strike regardless. >> Interesting. >> Learn something learn something new every day >> to say the least. I'll tell you. Unbelievable. Um so you know I I any excuse to talk about the Yankees on this show. So I thank you. >> One of the out. >> Yeah, I appreciate that. How well do you know Yankee history? Like are you one of those people that really knows everything that happened, you know, starting with Barah or are you somebody that that's only focused on the last 10, 15 years? No, I mean, listen, I know my history. When I was younger, it was impossible to get me to read any kind of book that wasn't about baseball. I've been reading um Ball Four by Jim Boutton recently. THAT'S BEEN MY SHEST. >> OH MY GOSH. >> That was a lifechanging book for a million people. >> Everybody that I've asked that's, you know, got a few decades on me, I mentioned it to my uncle over uh over Pesos and he almost like he looked me with his jaw on the floor like you've never read ball four. I was like, listen, I'm getting engrossed in it now. And not only not only that, not only that, you got to put yourself back into that era because if you if you think it's a lot of it seems pretty tame now. >> Correct. Correct. If you think it's a if you think it's a revolutionary book, imagine when it came out what it was like. >> Yeah. No, I can only imagine. Um, but yeah, so when I when I was younger, you know, baseball history, baseball stats, I used to sit there reading like Becket baseball card price guides and stuff like that. So yeah, I was I was holding, if you will. I think now at this point it's that's kind of one of the one of the trade-offs of like working in baseball is that when every single day is kind of spent on just you know hey what's the 24-hour news cycle what are we talking about post clips about this post you know highlights post news it can be a little uh I don't know it can be a little difficult to kind of strike that balance of living in the now just appreciating the history and all that but in in the offseason I I do my reading I get my Ken Burns fixed you know I try to I try to keep an eye on the bigger picture >> so uh on the so we again we don't often get to speak about the Yankees he's on this show. Uh, but I when Marty Appel wrote a book about Thurman Mson, I believe on the 30th anniversary of Mson's death. >> Okay. >> And I mean you, you know, the circumstances of Mson's death, I'm sure. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I did not know it was on picture. I learned that matter. So I say to Marty Appel on this show, I say to him, this I know this is a crazy question, but I'm so curious because for us it was literally the middle of the day on Tishabove and everybody my age, especially the Yankee fans, can tell you exactly where they were and where they were standing when they heard the news that Mson's plane crashed and that he was dead. >> And it was it was on Tishabove. And I said to Marty, I just got to ask you this question. you know, months since crash, his death happened on a significant day in the Jewish calendar on Tishabove. Did you ever hear of that? And I'll never forget he says to me, he says, you know, I think I remember hearing something about that. Like, you know, I seem to remember like, you know, the scuttlebutt, you know, in my temple, you know, was about months in a >> very hungry, very sleepd deprived Jew was telling me about that that day. >> Oh, is that funny? Yeah, you could say that again. Um, all right. So, look, I I'm How often do you do a podcast? Like, you have a guest. How often? >> Yeah, it kind It kind of differs based on based on a lot of things. Based on availability, based on my jamboy work schedule, but I try to shoot for at least two a month. Um, especially in the offseason. It's easier if you do a little here here's here's why you need me as a guest. Okay, I'll tell you why. Why you need me as a guest? I could tell you where I was when Bucky Dent hit the home run on Rashana. >> There you go. I could tell you that my late brother was at Jim Bunnings's perfect game. >> Okay. >> I could tell which was Father's Day, by the way. Father's Day 1964, Shay Stadium. >> I could I could tell you that um that that both my my that two of my my that my two older brothers were both at the Chamblas game. >> Wow. >> I I could I could tell you that I was living, this is a crazy story, I was living in Chamblas's building the night he hit the home run. >> Okay. So I have I have colleagues who actually saw him that night after that game. >> Wow. There you go. That's an impressive launch. OH, >> I'M TELLING YOU I'M TELLING YOU I HAVE SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. I CAN TELL YOU clearly >> I can tell you I can tell you that my two older brothers were at the Red G77 game six. >> There you go. >> So there's just too I mean I have too much baseball stuff I must spew forth. And I think you're going to be assigned to just to just you know take care of this for me. Let me let me get it all out. Yeah. Listen, there's no shame in that. I always say like it's, you know, my day job is to talk baseball, but that's kind of what I would be doing anyway. >> I want I wonder if you, a young Yankee fan, would understand the significance of this one. >> You know what game my brother was at? He was at >> Panella Carlton Fist. Do you even know what that means? Panella Carlton Fist. >> I'm guessing a fight of some massive massive role. Cuz I remember I remember if you were at that game in in that year, I think it was 76. If you were at that game, >> it was like the talk of the town that you were there that night. >> I'll never forget a guy came over to my brother just to talk about baseball >> and he said to me, "Have you noticed that Panella is, you know, just not hitting well this year?" or something like that. And my brother said, "Well, I was there the night of the brawl." What? You were there the night of just like the biggest deal that he was actually there that evening. But I'll tell you, I'll give you another one. Here's another reason why I need to be a guest of yours. Listen to this stat. This is going to blow your mind. You ready for this? >> Let's hear it. Go for it. >> From 19 I can't believe I'm doing this. From 19 From 1975 till 1982, >> I was at god knows how many Yankee games. >> Never had a Yankee loss. >> In fact, that's an impressive track. >> Correct. Agreed. In fact, here's how horrible this whole thing was. How did how did the streak end in 1982? Bobby Brown, not the original Bobby Brown, the one who played in the 80s for the Yankees. >> Sure. >> You know, there were two Bobby Browns on the Yankees. You know that, right? >> I'm familiar. >> The guy knows his stuff. I love it. So, >> the story with Yogi in the comic books and the the doctor book. It's a classic. >> Correct. Very good. >> Doctor, he was a doctor. Bobby Brown was in fact a doctor, right? >> Um, so the the other Bobby Brown 1982, the Yankees are about to win the game. In fact, we we were behind home plate cuz, you know, we were ready to run out of the stadium the second the third out and he dropped the third out and the Orioles came back and won. That's how I lost my streak. >> Could you imagine? Could you imagine? That's how I lost my streak. I was also at the longest nine ining game in Yankee history. >> Really? Okay, tell me more. >> I don't know. I wonder if it's still the longest nine in game because there were so many long games in, you know, in the last 10 years. I was at a game where the Yankees lost to the Orioles 18-9 on a Sunday. must have been must have been like 1988 in that area >> and and at that time >> Yankee team >> and it was a bad Yankee team and at that time it was the longest uh it was the longest nine inning game in Yankee history. >> Okay, there you go. Yeah, I my I set a personal record a couple weeks ago with I spent eight and a half hours in one day Yankee safety between a rain delay and then the game >> Oh, was that that Sunday? Was that that Sunday? >> That was a Sunday. But you know what? I ended up being able to bring Susan Walden Bata in in the press box. and I'll take the >> That was Sunday Colomoid, right? >> Sunday colomoid. You got it. >> Did she really take the mat? That's funny. >> I Well, I brought the mat and she actually already had it. She said, "Oh, somebody brought me already." But I said, "Okay, fine. You'll take this one, too." I ended up keeping a little bit of it. I was like, "I got to eat something for lunch today." >> I don't I don't think she works on Yum Kipper if I'm if I'm >> She does not. Yeah. when she came on my when she came on my podcast, she said that uh she said one of her well she because she grew up a Red Sox fan in Boston area and so she said that on the Bucky end game day on Rashana she and her brother still to this day blame themselves for the fact that they went to the game and that's why the Red Sox LOST BUT SO >> I LOVE IT. >> So yes, he said to this day I don't work Yum Kipper. Yankees Red Sox. We have Yankees Red Sox wild card this year again on Yum Kipper and you know she said I wasn't touching it this time. >> Wow. And finally, just to continue to toot my own horn, which I generally don't do, but to today I have no choice. I'm just, you know, >> go for it. >> Once I heard you were coming on, I said this guy's gonna have to sit through everything I got to tell him. I I I take great pride with all the time you spend at the stadium. >> I take great pride in the fact that I know the most important person at Yankee Stadium. >> Who's that? >> The Mashk and Legends. >> I I had a feeling you were going to say Mashkaf. The Legends one. Okay. I'm not at that level yet. One day we'll get there. In fact, in fact, I've been giving you Do Do you ever sneak into Legends or You can't do that. >> No, I mean, like, you know, with my career and all that, I try to be I try to be pretty cognizant of a lot of those things. When I was, you know, 10 years ago, maybe a different story, I would have been a little bit more advantageous, but at this point, it's like, all right, you know, you're an adult. You have an image to uphold. We can't be uh we can't be muddying in those waters anymore. But hey, you tell them if if Yankee Stadium legends Kosher Mashiaf wants to sponsor the Max Madness Pod and dish me a couple free tickets every now and then, far be it for me to turn that down. I got I got to go with you once. I got to invite you there once. I got to take you there once. >> Okay. Okay. You tell me one. >> That's a great idea. You want to know when is a great day? And I don't know if this will work out. >> Uh I'll I'll be in touch with you and let you know if it works out. You know, it's a great day to go. >> Um a week from today, a week from today, they're playing the Orioles, an afternoon game, >> and I have the menu for legends for that day. It's probably the best. Probably the best. >> You got the inside scoop. Okay. Haven't >> I'm telling you, I know the most important that guy. >> I'm telling you, I know the most important guy, Yankee Stadium. >> Yeah. No, I don't I don't doubt it. You You hyped it up a lot. I was wondering where you were going to go with that. It did not let me down. >> So, so if things work out, right, 20% chance, but at least we'll put it on the table. If things work out, we'll be eating at the buffet next Thursday afternoon. If it works out, we'll see what happens. >> All right. Listen, far be it for me to turn that down. Like I said, >> correct. If not, then we'll certainly uh we'll certainly um you know take a rain check as they say in the world of baseball. Did you like the fact that they ran it back for this year? I I'll tell you, you know why I like I'll tell you why I liked it, then I'll ask you for your opinion. I liked it because I thought they did great last year. Obviously, you know, uh Toronto picked them off, but they did it without Garrett Cole, and I said to myself, they do the same thing again, but they have Cole coming back, it's going to be an even better season. What do you think? Yeah, I had I mean listen on paper at the end of the day you can look at the fact that they have all those rotation guys coming back and they the number one offense in baseball like there's I very much understand why the Yankees front office felt like this was you know an okay thing to put their foot down on. I think my main hesitations were one kind of just the bullpen like I know Devin Williams and Luke Weaver weren't all that at the end of the year last year but I I you know I feel like I've said this 15 different times. I feel like I say this, you know, I'm a broken record with how many times I've been saying this since the season started, but the fact the Yankees didn't just sign like an average to above average middle reliever issue this offseason, like I think they're very scared of paying relievers after how the Raldis Chapman, Zack Britain era contracts went down. Um, and I think the pendulum swung so far in the direction of like, oh, Matt Blake will just grab a couple guys off the scrap heap and, you know, turn them into productive arms that they kind of got to a point where they were banking on that and making instead of making that a luxury, making it something they were depending on, which I think is a slippery slope to say the least. And then offensively, I think, you know, I mean, Ben Rice has been, you know, surpassing everybody's expectations so far except the Yankees. I think the Yankees think he's like, you know, the Yankees probably think he's like a top fiveish hitter in baseball as far as like in the long run and how good he actually is. And you listen with with how he's hitting right now, you know, far, you know, I can't I can't exactly say I don't see it. Um, but I think listen, it was a lot it's a lot of expectations on guys like Gisham and Jazz to repeat what they did last year. So, I think in that sense, I just wanted a righty bat of some capacity. I wanted to especially now that like a Stanton is down for example like suddenly the Yankees right-handed you know depth chart offensively is like you got Judge and then you got like Vulpian Caviro kind of and like Dominguez who can't even really hit from the right side. So as far as that goes I you know I want one in some capacity. I think we'll probably get one at the deadline. They'll figure something out with whether it's third base, whether it's maybe like a platoon catcher for Wells. We'll see where he's at at that point. But I was I was overall fine with running back the general structure of the team. I didn't think they needed any kind of like massive changes. But >> yeah, I hear you have some qualifying offer decision ages and yeah, bull bullpen and a couple right backs. >> I I think I think that I think the Gisham Gisham coming back I thought was a good thing. I know people weren't happy because of the money and all that, but the guy's performing and Ben Rice, look, I don't know if he's just, you know, hitting great for a month or if he's really a superstar, but he's certainly >> I think it's the real deal. And the Yankees do, too. The numbers don't lie. >> Wow. You know who's you know who's treated unfairly? I'll give you the three guys who are treated unfairly. You ready? >> Okay. >> Vulpi. >> I think All right. I mean, we might be here for another hour if you get me going on that. >> I mean, I I think if they'd let him as a healthy player play every day, he'd be fine, but I don't >> I think they've let him play too much the last few days. I think the last few years, I think they've kind of ran him into the ran him into the ground by the fact that they said, "This is our starting shortstop. We're going to play him 160 games." I think he the truth is he was put in an unfair position because they passed in all these shorts stops and they kind of anointed him as the next jeter and all these things and I don't I don't think they set him up for success but I mean there's not a whole lot of guys that have gotten everyday run to the extent that he has over the last three years and I felt like they it felt like the Yankees wanted to kind of put their foot down on that and make an organizational statement about we believe in this and I felt like they kind of let their pride and their ego get in the way of winning baseball games. But whatever. We'll be here. Like I said, we'll be here for another hour if I keep talking. >> The second guy The second guy being treated unfairly is McMahon. He's he he >> Okay. I'm I like the trade a lot of the time. He looks he looks too much like Brooks Robinson to to really criticize him. And >> no, he can pick it. He can pick it at third. Don't get the thing is he doesn't even have to hit that much to justify if he's a league average hitter with his glove. And I and I think if they play him every day, he will be a league average hitter in my opinion. >> Yeah. I mean, we shall see. They gave him a decent amount of run to start the year. And then I think it's a question of what kind of role they want Rosario to have. All that's also just going to shake up with Cabiera. Once Vulpi gets back, like the whole I don't know. I've been saying like I think the the story of the season we hasn't really started to get written yet, but I think once Vulpi comes back, it'll be like all right, you know, where's the where's this where's the story taking us? >> And I think I think they're also unfair to Wells. They >> I'm a Wells guy. I I I've been saying I think Wells kind of I think he probably would have gotten a lot more heat last year if Walpie didn't struggle as much as he did. Um but yeah, it's crazy because Wells was supposed to be like back first, like you know, can't really catch. Maybe he'll have to figure out first base or left field or just be a DH down the road. And now it's gotten to a point where it's like his glove is kind of been more of an asset for the last year plus. Um but I mean, listen, he, you know, homered in Houston, homerred in Texas, so we shall see. I would love if we could get it going. >> Interesting. Boy, oh boy. All right. Sounds like you have high expectations for this team. You expect at least 100 victories. >> Hey, listen. I'm a fan at the end of the day. I don't know. You know, I, you know, in the past there are times where I try to be very timid, very rational, very like see the bigger picture, but at the end of the day, it's like I'm a Yankees fan. There's never going to be a day where I wake up and don't think the Yankees are winning on that given day. That's, you know, that's part of what being a fan is about. So, we shall see. >> Do you think uh do you think cross town uh Sodto is going to improve? Uh, I mean, he's going to be better than, you know, than he's been, generally speaking, just because he's Juan Sodto. Is he going to stay out the duration of that 15-year contract in Queens? I think might be a different conversation. But listen, the Mets are the Mets are going through it right now. Baseball always have a way has a way of, you know, the when you're you can't get too high and you can't get too low because you're going to meet in the middle at some point at a five out of 10 level. So, the Mets, listen, they'll turn things around to some capacity. They're not going to stay as bad as they've been. They're not going to stay on this uh what's it called? on this pace. But I mean, the list of the list of teams that have started as poor as they have and had losing streaks like that and have gone to the playoffs is not exactly plentiful. So, we shall see. >> How did John Boy find you if you were 6,000 miles away at YTVA? >> Yeah. So, I knew Jimmy. I've joked like I followed Jimmy since before I had more Twitter followers than he did back when he was a dude with like 100 150 Twitter followers tweeting out of a basement as kind of just like a side gig passion project. Um, so I was an early listener to Talking Yanks when he started that, like even before Jake joined. And then I actually, this is a cool story. So I ran like a baseball stats and baseball fan club at Hessel. Um, and my senior year, he moved to the city in early November of 2019. Um, and I said, "Hey, would love for you to come speak to this club that we run." And he said, "Sir, sure, let's do let's do November 14th." November 13th, the Astros scandal breaks. He makes this breakdown that goes crazy viral, like leaves the leaves the sports world. It was like on CNN. So I was thinking to myself like holy moly this guy's like you know he might not come tomorrow and that's super valid like you know he's doing the Michael K show right now he does have to come to the Hel sports analytics club still came spoke for like an hour and a half two hours really long time stayed in touch and yeah I in the middle of my son Olive I reached out to him and I was like hey you know I'll be back in the city this summer we'd love to intern for you guys in some capacity and he was like oh we could we could kind of use someone to start right now so I was like all right I'm on a seven hour time difference for the next however many months but as long as you're cool with that. Um, so yeah, for the last however many months of my channel Olaf, my schedule was like waking up at 2 am for Yankees games, napping for like twoish hours on each side of that. And considering that one night of sleep, which I do not recommend working during the day, at least balancing a lot. >> At least at least you're able to watch the Shabas games. >> Yeah, exactly. That that much was a nice perk. That much I do somewhat miss, but uh hey, tradeoffs, right? >> No, I hear it. But my my kids in Jerusalem when they hear it as a 12:30 or 1:00 Yankee game, they're they're thr they're thrilled. >> Uh it's pretty it's pretty amazing, frankly. Oh, it's all about baseball and it's all about the Yankees. Unbelievable. >> Uh and is there an official relationship between John Boy and the Yes Network or not? >> Yes. Yeah, we are. You know, we a lot of our content is shown on there. Michael K is an investor of the company. We are on awesome terms with the Yes Network. They rock. >> Interesting. Are there others in your uh in your solar system as well? Or is it John Boy and Yes. Like are there others? >> I mean MLB MLB invested in our company last year. So that was pretty cool. That was the first time that a pro sports league has invested in any kind of independent media company that um what's it called that you know covers the sport. So that was a pretty big deal in the industry when that happened. Um what else? I'm sure we've got some other pretty impressive ones that are blanking on me right now. >> Frankly, yeah, frankly MLB and the S network are pretty impressive, frankly. >> Yeah. Hard to top. >> Yeah, very hard to top. Really amazing, I'll tell you. Well, uh, Max, you sound like an amazing guy. Can't wait to meet you and, uh, continue good luck with what you're doing and Oh, I wanted to ask you cuz especially in this show, would be appropriate. Uh, we know that high-profile people, especially in the media, including in sports. Uh, things were not always comfortable uh, after October 7th. Things weren't always comfortable when Israel was at war. You feel a lot of that stuff or it's basically ignored in your uh, in your arena? Um, I mean, listen, social media is going to be social media. You, especially like when, you know, when things were heating up with the war, you could have checked my Twitter comments on any given day and, you know, you could have predicted what that was going to be. So, that was it was a little bit jarring at the start and then I think at a certain point I just realized like, all right, it's people on a screen and you know, they have no actual impact on my life. And one of the things I realized, one, there's all there's Jewish people in the industry and kind, you know, people that you've heard of and people that like I hadn't even heard of but I would have never known hold whatever, you know, high up cool position at whatever company. um that reach out to me and say, "Hey, I really like what you do." Like, you never know who's watching. Um and beyond that, I've realized that there are people kind of like what I was saying before about how people respect like shops, observants. Like there's people that follow me um that you know aren't Jews, probably have zero kind of connection or frankly like care whatsoever about Israel, Gaza, about any of that. But I think people that just see like, hey, this is a kid that, you know, is in the social media space where it's not popular to stand up for something unpopular where it's not, you know, it's not something that everyone's doing. And he's very, I don't know, kind of driven by his morals and his history and his tradition. And I think that earns a lot of respect in people's eyes. So people always ask me like, "Oh, don't you think that, you know, you know, advocating for Israel and stuff like that has closed a lot of doors for you?" And I always say like, "Sure." Like, frankly, at the end of the day, those are doors that like I I don't, you know, if you don't like me, you don't like me. I don't think, you know, there's no one that I what I could have collaborated with, but you know, oh, you know, you know, he's vocal about being Jewish. I'm not going to I'm not going to bother like, okay, that's someone that I don't really need regardless. Like, cut your losses. But like I said, you know, there's Jewish people that it definitely um elevates that in their eyes and non-Jewish people that I think look at it and even if they don't know, even if they don't care, I think just seeing like, hey, you know, you know, this isn't just somebody who goes along with the herd and goes along with whatever Tik Tok tells them to say, I think I think holds a lot of merit in people's eyes. Can you go to Schul's shop this morning without people like me bothering you about Thurman Mson and Reggie Jackson? >> I mean, it's usually more so, you know, whether the Yankees won or lost last night. But listen, I'll take I'll take whatever baseball hawk I could get. >> So, it doesn't bother you that much. >> No, listen. Far far be for me to ever turn down any kind of baseball conversation at 2:1. >> Oh, hilarious. I got some good stories, by the way, about trying to find out scores on Shabas also. You should know. >> I bet. I bet. Uh, Max, a real pleasure. Hatah, the best of luck continued for you and go Yankees. >> Appreciate it. Go Yankees is right. Thanks so much for having me. >> Max Mannis, everybody. Johnboy Media. Great guy. so glad that uh uh I discovered him or I should say I discovered his connection to Judaism through his conversation with Dusty Baker, followed up and we were able to get him on the air and he even he even he even was intrigued by that whole Chris Chamblas thing. Wouldn't you think folks? I think so. Anyway, sphere of format uh sphere of format Thursday and you're listening to JM in the AM