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Live & New Music Alert with Tali Yess on JM in the AM
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Nachum was joined in the studio by singer-songwriter Tali Yess for a great discussion about his music, to debut his latest single and to preview his upcoming Summer Tour.
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Well, it's no secret. I've been saying
it for a couple of days. So excited that
Tali is visiting us this morning here at
JM the he actually did bring his guitar
by the way. So Arammy, we have the
answer to that. Arammy was curious if uh
he'd be bringing his guitar. Oh, and
also we must must get Tales before he
leaves this morning. We must get him to
record a very special message for
listener Dovy, who is the Tales fan out
there. My gosh, he is like addicted to
your stuff listening. o as he's driving
listening over and over and over to your
tunes. So that that was the conversation
at the Shabas table this bad Shabas. Uh
you worked your way into the agenda. How
do you like that? Tally. Yes. Welcome
back to JM in the AM.
>> Exciting to be back again. I'm like uh
stoked to be on your show twice in the
same year. This is like a big year for
me.
>> I appreciate that very much and it's
great to welcome you here. And boy oh
boy, when I invited you, I was hoping
that the brand new single would be
ready. And sure enough, we have it. We
have the brand new Toreta, which is I
assume obviously a tip of the hat to the
holiday of obviously a tip of the hat to
your dear late father who created this
song and recorded it and did an amazing
job. And I'm sure you also you and Hill
Capnik together, right?
>> Oh, Kapnik, Hill Kapnik, by the way, is
a legend. Um, and he uh he he did such
an amazing job with it. I kind of uh
think that he breathed some serious new
life into it in a way that um it kept a
lot of the original uh you know motifs
and and anchor points of the original
song in it. Uh but at the same time it
has a much more modern sound to it.
>> Your father recorded in what year would
you know?
>> It was on the Shabas on My Mind album.
So early or early to mid 80s I would
imagine it
>> before 1990. Shabas on my mind is before
1990. Wow.
>> It could be. I mean, I think I'm I'm
thinking uh mid80s probably.
>> Wow.
>> Maybe like 85 or 87.
>> I didn't realize Shabbas on My Mind was
was that close to the Mamba era. I just
didn't realize.
>> Well, it was one of the first solo
albums afterwards. Uh it was there was
um the first album that came out, then
the Pintilate album, then Shabas on my
mind.
>> So, I'm I'm I'm estimating a couple
years apart each one. So, that's what
I'm saying. Maybe 85 86.
>> And that was released on cassette.
>> Yeah. Pintalyad also did not make it to
LP. It was only on cassette.
>> Yeah, those are the ones that are
cassettes only.
>> I guess the last LP that featured your
father was the one uh with the the brown
cover
>> with the guitar. Yeah,
>> I have that one hanging on my wall in
this studio.
>> You know, I'll never forget and I had
the privilege of being on and I'm sorry
I do this to you that we always end up
reminiscing, but
>> I've been used to it,
>> I guess. Right. But I'll never forget
standing on stage, you know, off to the
side. Obviously, my role my role is over
once the performers on stage and just
watching how he sat in his chair playing
the guitar. I wonder if you have any
photos from the
>> someone just last the night before you
called me literally just sent me this
video and I wanted you to see this cuz I
it can't be it can't be um how do you
call it? Um any more time?
So,
>> correct me if that's not you.
that. Let me see. I was about to say
it's not me, but now I'm wondering.
>> Now I am wondering.
>> I think it might be.
>> It is not me.
>> It's not.
>> It is not the first time that I've been
confused with the young Zale Newman.
It's not the first time.
>> Never mind. Never mind. Okay.
>> In fact, someone from Israel sent me an
intro and said, "Oh, this is you from
years ago." And I said, "I hate to tell
you that now." We do look very much
alike. Yes. I'm not even arguing. And
he's an amazing man.
>> You know, if I saw how tall he was on
video, you showed him from like the
>> Correct. I'm only a drop taller than
him.
>> Oh, really?
>> So, I wonder if there is that shot that
I always used to love,
>> which was being off to the side and
getting that side view of your father
with the cowboy boots and how he always
seemed like when he was sitting in that
chair on that stool, he always seemed
like he was bent over the exact right
amount. He has to.
>> There was a silhouette that was just
incredible.
>> He had this round back guitar. Actually,
the guitar
>> That's the one you brought with me.
>> The one I brought is his guitar. The one
that that that Toronto was probably
written on is the one I brought today.
Holy cow.
>> This is the one you saw from the Brown
album.
>> Unbelievable.
>> I figured there's a crazy story behind
this one, too. I think I may have
mentioned it to you once, but
>> Oh my god. It's It's got such a unique
look. Look at that thing.
>> It's a little beat up, but
>> it is beat up, but it's got that I don't
know. What do you call that part of the
guitar with those with that with that
unique? What is it called?
>> The pick guard here.
>> No, the whole thing. Like the whole
piece. That wooden piece.
>> Yeah, it's a rosette. It's the It's the
um This is
>> It's unique.
>> Yeah. I mean, it's a
>> It's cool.
>> It's an ovation. It's a tobacco sunburst
finish. So, it's kind of very classic.
>> That's what it is, right? Wow. Anybody
who has seen the cover now knows exactly
what I'm looking at. It's incredible.
>> It's a big deal to for me to bring this
to your studio actually because normally
this doesn't leave my house very often.
I brought it to Hill Capnik studio cuz
he was a huge fan of my dad's and I was
like, you know, I have a little present
for you.
You get to, you know, like hold the
guitar that that that maybe it'll give
some good vibes onto the song or
something.
>> No joke. And I'm telling you, I saw this
guitar from that side view 45 years ago.
>> Yep.
>> And it was just he had such a command.
Yeah.
>> And how do you have a command when
you're a solo artist sitting on a chair,
but he had a command of the stage in
that position, which was amazing. He did
own it. He did own it. Correct.
>> Get up on a stage and look at the
audience and basically tell them exactly
where he's going to shle them and they
followed.
>> Correct. no matter where he went, he
just had this intuition about who he's
playing for, how to speak to them, uh
what's what songs to pull out of his
repertoire, and he had a huge one.
>> Um and yeah, it was it was great. When
to be serious, when to be funny, like he
he just knew how to work the
>> um emotional angle of an
>> even in the song. Like I always say that
AB Rottenberg's a brilliant I think I
said this to you last time, a brilliant
casting director.
>> Yeah. He casted your father in certain
songs and the the the cute inside jokes
that were in his voice
>> as he's singing. Whether it's pesak
blues
>> pesak blues where he was a woman.
>> Correct. Whether it's pesak blues,
whether it's the ninth man, the ninth
man. We just passed Log B. Do you know
how big that song is?
>> But it's funny that he said Pes and he's
got this really deep gruffy voice and
he's like I'm a woman.
>> But he got away with it.
>> Yeah,
>> he got away with it.
>> Yeah, it was great. Do you know how big
the ninth man is?
>> It's huge. It's so big. Every They've
made a few versions of it now,
>> right?
>> It's unbelievable. Anyway, for you for
you youngans out there, we're talking
about the late great Mosha. Yes. The
amazing Tales is in our studio. I'm with
Dovy on Chab as I just told you. He's
your biggest fan. We if we don't do a
recorded message.
>> I see. I don't know. I've met a few
people in the last year since this
country country album came out. They're
all saying that they're my biggest fans.
I have to figure out like who's really
>> If you would have seen his enthusiasm,
>> let's put it this way. If you would have
been at the shop table, he would not
have been able to eat. There's no way he
would able to eat.
>> Oh wow. I was just in Chicago and uh for
Pesak and this gentleman named Mity
Weiss comes up to me and he uh and he
and he's like, "Oh, I listen to your
music. I'm a huge fan." I'm like,
"Okay." You know, I think I hear this
all the time. I was like lately, you
know, country
>> and then uh I was like, "All right." I
didn't make much of. And he invited me
for Yap Chick. I'm like, "Everybody's
got Yapchick. I'm going to the
mother-in-law for Yap Chick. I'm sorry.
I can't just bail on the family." And
then next day he buys me an Aaliyah for
like, you know, I don't know, over
probably over $1,000.
>> Are you Morty?
>> It was Pes. Yeah. I was like, "Wow."
Okay.
>> Wow.
>> That That's where my like my father's
famous line says like send money, not
kisses.
>> Save the aliyah. Send me a check.
It was really nice. Yeah. Listen, you
know, I guess music can take it places.
>> You're not a coy, are you?
>> No, I got uh
>> playing your stroll.
>> Yeah.
>> You got you got
>> I don't know what I got. I got up Sika
actually. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Very nice.
>> But it was one of those shows where it
went for a lot.
>> I hear that. Ty is here. All right. Um I
think Dovy told me
>> Yeah.
>> that his favorite I hope I have this
right was just me and the one above now.
Is that the one that's getting the most
reaction from your album?
>> No.
>> Which is getting the most from your
album?
>> So there's there's three that did very
very well.
>> Yeah.
>> Um
>> is that one of them or not?
>> Not even close.
>> Interesting.
>> Yeah. I got a lot of people that told me
they like that one specifically because
it's it's more country and a little
softer.
>> I think it's the one we're playing the
most here
>> possibly. Yeah. And also it's also a
little less leaning into the rock side
of things. So it's, you know, people
that can't handle all the heavy guitars
and stuff, you know, it's a little more
up their alley.
>> So what's in the top three?
>> So I'm just looking like at the
analytics on Spotify. Uh when the when
the album first came out, the first song
was was the one that got the most cuz
people were listening to the first song
and then skipping if they didn't like
it.
>> Um and then after about a
>> what is that? Ain't no higher. Uh, yeah.
You know, Higher Power on the Chef. And
then, um,
>> Oh, you're playing.
>> Well, while you talk, I'll play you.
>> And then the next one, the one that I
thought would do very well, cuz it was a
heavier song.
>> Um, and more of like a boot stomp and
party type of song,
>> was called This Chosen Soul Here Ain't
Afraid,
>> right?
>> That one had a lot more effects going on
on my voice and a lot more cooler riffs
on the guitars, like a little more of
like a like a heart pounding.
>> And that's high on the analytics. That
one's very high. And then when I I did a
sneak peek song around Kaneka for uh the
the volume two of the album. I saved
like five songs that I was going to
originally put on the first one
>> for volume two.
>> Where is volume two? How many months?
>> Not out yet. I'm probably I'm not I'm
going to try to do it lol.
>> Ah, cool.
>> Yeah. Um so that was that song was
called Makabe Blood and I sent it to you
as a single.
>> Right. Of course we did it time.
>> That one did tremendously well. I mean,
Kaneka in general gets a tremendous
response out there, and that's a great
song.
>> That I felt like it was a great song.
>> That was a It had an edge to it, that
song.
>> It It had to because it was coming
around a time where we're like at war
with like half the Middle East. And and
and I I I figured it would be a way to
give r, you know, like to people that
are actually fighting for us
>> to say, you know, like we're look at our
ancestors and look who we've been up
against. We can do this,
>> right?
>> It's just Iran. Just it's just calm down
folks. It's only a country of 90 million
people who want to kill you.
>> Tal is here. JM in the AM. All right. A
couple other things to clear up for me.
>> First of all, you did you did the new
single which we'll get to. You did it
with We did it with Captainic as you
said.
>> I also did another single uh recently
that I forgot to mention last time. It
was with a guy named Eton Schmool
Lieberman from Texas.
>> Do I have it?
>> Uh you you probably do. The song is
called Sunrise, and it came out like
right before the the the
um Holy Outlaws album.
>> I don't know if we got it here.
>> So, it was a it was a um it was a cool
collab that I did randomly. Yeah. how
how I I bumped into this guy. Uh a
friend of mine, Jason Letterman from
from Fairlon, reached out to me as I was
on my way to go do a show for around
Pesak time and he said, "Oh, uh I have
my uh my nephews in the car with me and
my uh and randomly they said, "Oh, you
know, they were listening to music. They
were talking about Jewish music." "Oh,
you know, you listen to Talia." I was
like, "Dude, I just ate by his house for
Shabas." Like, "What do you mean?" I was
like, "Really?" I was like, "Why don't
you guys like come to I'm doing a show
with uh Jesse Green and you pal for for
Pesak. I have some extra tickets if you
guys want to come. He goes, "No, no,
we're in Texas." I'm like, "Wait, wait,
wait. This happened in Texas." I was
like, "That's wild."
>> Amazing.
>> And uh so then eventually he like made
the the shik, you know, and like we
wound up working together. His father
came in. He was like a yeshiva bucker.
He came in with his dad and we we we
worked on a song together and it came
out and it was really good. I loved it.
It was a song that he wrote and it it
reminded me a lot about Jewish child.
Like those kind of vibes. is about like
speaking to the person that's a little
off the derek and encouraging him to
come back and to me it felt like I work
with a lot of cure of organizations. So
for me that's like a
>> oh we got to get to your we're going to
get to your concert tour. I know you
have limited times your company sending
you on a big mission today but we we do
need time for the concert tour. We need
time to play the single
>> and um
>> and there was one a couple other things
someone said we were having this
discussion at the Shabas table because
again when your name comes up your
father's name comes up. Okay. Um,
and someone said that there's one Magama
song that disturbs them and only Mosha
Yes. could have gotten away with it.
>> I know which one it is.
>> Go ahead.
>> A young girl named Maria.
>> How do you know that?
>> Because it's the only one where the
>> that doesn't have a happy ending.
>> Uh, it's No, it's it's it's it's the
story itself is taboo to begin with
because but it's the thing that
unfortunately happens. So you you were
about to say what that the reason was
>> um well it's the one that the Msiah at
246 told me I need to change the cover
on.
>> Are you serious meaning the words?
>> Sorry. No, he there was like a
silhouette of a woman in it.
>> I figured I can blur it out like
Mishbucka magazine, but it wasn't good
enough. But I had a
>> your standards aren't as high. I had a I
had a I was like okay for you know for
your platform I'll I'll send you a
revised version you know but that but
that one was a story that unfortunately
you hear about like correct and it can
happen to the best of the best like I
knew a guy who was like one of the most
people you'll meet he's like the gaba in
a he learns all the time and you know
unfortunately ran off with the shika
>> right oh I get it we know the reality it
still took a a certain amount of courage
for him to actually record it and
release it and in those days it was a
little bit more
>> common probably. Yeah. And it it wasn't
as shocking, I would think, which is
weird when you think about it because
today everyone's used to everything like
you know. But all right, but that we
could debate for for a while. But um but
that was the only but again you got it
right away when I said 80 wouldn't end
very nicely either. I mean he dies in
the end. I hate to spoiler alert.
>> Wait a second.
>> That was our biggest hit song.
>> Well that was the biggest but I'm trying
to think what would you consider my
Zadei? I mean everyone loved that song.
You can't imagine my Zadei in an era
when if something was popular, I it
stayed on top, you know, for a lot more
than the 10 minutes of today.
>> Oh, it was like on Art Raymond's like
top list.
>> Oh, it was everywhere. Are you kidding
me?
>> Eight years in a row. Nine years in a
row.
>> And not only that, but every concert,
you know, and you know, and and and if
anybody came up with an English ballad
in Jewish music, which was not that
common in those days, Journeys didn't
exist in those days before Mama etc.
>> But the Vegas was around.
>> Yeah. But Vicus wasn't English. It
wasn't It was an English balance. So it
was always judged against my zade. It
was always 100%.
>> I did not know that.
>> Was it as meaningful? Was it as
dramatic? Etc. etc.
>> Make you cry as much.
>> Right.
>> Yeah, it did.
>> Oh, we also were talking about another
song of your father's on Shabas. And I'm
trying to remember now if it was being
if it was being spoken about um how
great a song it was or maybe how sad it
was. Yoseph, my son. We were talking
about.
>> Yeah. So that's not his his writing.
That's his song that he made famous. I
think I touched on this last time.
>> That's on that album.
>> That was Morty Rockman's song
>> from Destiny.
>> Yeah. I guess I think he took on the
stage name of Ellie Nathan.
>> Correct. Boy, you know your stuff.
>> And now he's like under lowkey a Russa
somewhere and doesn't want anything to
do with Israel or here.
>> I don't know. No one tells me. He
doesn't It's very hard to get ask us.
He's why. He'll tell you.
>> Your father knew him.
>> My father knew him because in the he had
a he had a Mosha coffee shop in
Jerusalem after Mama split up. My father
>> I remember the coffee shop
>> and um Morty was a bakar that passed
through the place.
>> Oh, I thought Morty was also from
Toronto. No,
>> he it could be he is.
>> Yeah, I think he was also in Toronto.
>> But he he lived in Israel for a little
bit or was studying in Israel or
something and a lot of talent passed
through that that coffee shop and he he
wound up uh for my dad's first solo
album. He said, "Here, I have a song for
you. I think I think it might do well."
>> And my dad took it and he he great.
>> Ironically, I don't think your dad ever
appeared on Destiny. Now that I told
you, by the way, that it's his song, you
can hear it in the in the writing.
>> Interesting.
>> Cuz he's a great storyteller.
>> Correct.
>> Yeah. Phenomenal.
>> Well, you know what they used to say
about him, but I don't know. I should
say this publicly because I don't know
how sensitive people are. And honestly,
it's it's still a good comparison. I
think they always call Destiny Journeys
Light because AB stuff was deeper. No,
this I don't think it's an insult, by
the way. I don't think it's an insult.
If AB did Yoseph My Son, it would not be
as simple a song as it is and as simple
a story.
>> How would I say this? Jour Journeys to
me was was English Jewish music catering
to very mainstream central um uh you
know audiences meaning in our audience
in our communities.
>> Destiny to me was slightly more
radiating outwards on the fringe. Not
quite correct but the heading in that
direction. Well, if that's the case,
then
>> so it's like more modern orthodox, you
know,
>> right? And even beyond that, Colored
Candles is even beyond that.
>> Excellent. Yeah.
>> So, okay.
>> And we love that stuff. We listen to
that on repeat like all phenomenal.
>> So, the reality is that if you're going
to try to be what you just described
that Destiny became, it does pay to do
things even though again that might
>> he never did shows. He always just has
been produced.
>> Such a shame cuz it was so it was so
such good material. I'm trying to think
if he ever appeared on stage or anything
representing Destiny ever did. I don't
think so.
>> It was It was a stretch to get Journeys
on stage.
>> I don't think he did.
>> It was a stretch to get Journeys on
stage, but you know, AB finally felt
that, you know, Revy Schweel and company
could pull it off. Yeah.
>> Speaking of AB being a great caster, he
actually reached out to me while I was
at CVS picking up like a bunch of
prescriptions from my wife who was like
a pediatric empty. And he's like, he
sends me a WhatsApp message. Can you can
you do a Jamaican accent? And I'm like I
texted him back Yaman. So I'm just good
with accents. So he's like uh he's like
okay. He calls me up right away on
WhatsApp and I'm surrounded by a bunch
of Jamaicans and the line. He's like
okay do it. I'm like no I can't.
>> This ain't the place.
>> I can't but I I was like but he's like
send me something. So I sent him this
song that I then never released and I
might never release it. It's a song I
wrote actually in Pua. It's like a
English dialect Jamaican dialect of
English and it was a uh it was about how
God is in everything. It's very
spiritual, you know, like uh, you know,
anoid vulvado vibes, you know,
>> uh, but true to like authentic like Bob
Marley and reggae type kind of kind of
thing, like mystical reggae. And I sent
it to uh to him. It was very very rough,
scratchy draft. And then he's like,
"Okay, oh my god, I got to put you in
touch with Kanya, my son." Goes, "Oh,
your son." Goes, "Okay, yeah. So, so
what's what's with your son?" He goes,
"Oh,
>> oh, meaning Kanye." He's putting out his
first album which went which did very
well. called uh
war on war on gravity, right?
>> Just give you the idea that depth that
you know correctain very very depth
>> and uh so I get there
>> and he's like okay we need you to do
first a skit
>> uh like an acting skit and then a song
and the song had it was called half cup
and it was about like how your cup is
half full or half empty and it depends
on like your perspective of how you look
at life. So that was a really fun song.
They got a lot of a lot of good feedback
to somebody yesterday at headquarters at
Infinite Care and Lakewood told me like
I love this love this song.
>> Spending a lot of time in Lakewood, huh?
>> Yeah. Well, only for meetings for
important meetings. We do stuff there.
>> So I'm just looking to see cuz we did a
lot of stuff off that album when it came
out. It came out uh just now in March.
It just came out.
>> It's pretty new. Yeah.
>> Uh so what' you say the name of it was?
Oh, Half Cup. Here it is. It's a short
song. Oh, no. The intro was short. Intro
is short. The intro is short. real song
is right here.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, you know why he called you?
>> What? I
>> mean, I I assume that he thought that
because of your
>> It would be good.
>> Because of your pedigree,
>> poetic to for us to work together.
>> Well, not just that, but because of your
pedigree, you're likely as versatile as
he thought you were.
>> Well, yeah. I mean, it was a it was a
good pick. He said he almost scratched
that song and that uh because they
couldn't find a guy to do the accent,
right?
Sounds like
>> manile.
>> Boy, did we go off course this morning
so far.
>> We haven't done the concert tour. We
haven't done the new single. And I have
a comment from a listener. I need your
clarification on it. Let's start with
that one. Here goes. The listener
writes,
and I tried looking this up and I just
couldn't um I couldn't figure it out
based on our on our um
what am I trying to say? Our collection
of music here. Um
oh gosh, now of course I can't find it.
Hang on a second. Everyone be patient.
I'm begging you. This is really
important. Here it is. Can you play?
They ask
Tal's version of David Cohen's bar
mitzvah now.
>> Yeah, I can do that.
>> Wait a second.
>> Oh, asking if I can play it or if you
can play it.
>> No, they asked me.
>> Oh,
>> no. Meaning knowing you're coming in.
>> I only know my version.
>> No, but knowing you're coming in, they
asked that question. So, here's my
question.
>> I did that song with Luzy Klatskco. Rob
been seeing Klasco's son.
>> Wait a second. Slow slow down.
>> Yeah.
>> I went to the S Legacy album, It's Not
You on David Cohen's Baritza. It's
>> I wasn't on the S Legacy album. It sure
is.
>> Not my version.
>> Correct.
>> Yeah.
>> Someone else did it,
>> right? Yeah. I'd be wrong did it.
>> Correct. It was a correct.
>> When you released
>> How could you forget?
>> Yeah. I just looked at it 10 minutes
ago. I should have remembered. When you
released the um what I have in my
library as as uh as Tali Yes. doing
Mama. That's what I have in my library.
Tom. Okay. Which you did what a year
ago? Like I I did a bunch of covers of
my dad's, maybe like 10 or 10 of them
already. Maybe 12.
>> So I was wondering if it was just that
you remastered them or you actually were
on them.
>> So I both So I one second I I I got the
album the original Magama albums
remastered in high definition.
>> Correct. Which we call your version of
it. At least that's how we refer to HD
the HD.
>> Correct.
>> I've also done until I was able to find
unopened mint copies of the records to
do that remastering. I was trying to
figure out how to get the music back out
there again. because what we had was
really scratched up transfers and it
sounded terrible.
>> So I did covers of quite a few of the
songs. One of them was David Collins
Baritzvet and it was with Lozi Klatskco
of Rabbi Klatskco fame from M.
>> Why don't we have that one?
>> You should. It's everywhere.
>> That's so funny. I sent that out to you.
>> All we have here is Mama Tales David
Cones and that's what I assume is the
remaster.
>> So download it. It's download. Yeah, you
can play that. Sure.
>> Oh my gosh. Hey listener, ask me on a
different day. Give me time to repair
here.
>> Well, I can do a live if you want.
>> That would be amazing. By the way,
>> Leslie was great cuz Lozie had turn this
microphone on.
>> Lzie was a young uh bucker at the time.
So, I I casted him.
>> What do you mean? How long ago was this?
>> It was maybe four years ago. And I
casted him to be the the do the bar
mitzvah speech for the kid. Like I want
to thank the Revs. He had like the
octave higher.
>> Yeah. But he was no bucker at that
point. The guy's got kids and the whole
thing.
>> No. Luzie Klat.
>> Oh, Luzi is one of the kids. Got it.
Kids. Sorry about that. All his kids are
legends. I confuse him with his father.
>> All right. Ready?
>> Yep. I'm always ready.
>> The Cadillac. No, I got to warm up. I'm
not usually singing at 8:00 in the
morning.
>> Yeah, they all say that.
The Cadillacs were all lined up in the
driveway.
Mink so many colors were on display.
The caterer was the best that money can
buy.
It was David Cohen's bar mouth day.
It was David Cohen's bar.
Uncle Abe flew in from Cincinnati.
Aunt Becky drove up from Miami Beach.
And the rabbi was watching with a tear
in his eye.
As David Co read his bar mitzvah speech.
I want to thank the rabbi, my mother,
and my father.
Today I am a man by Jewish law.
I accept all of my Jewish obligations.
I acknowledge that there is only one
God.
I acknowledge that there is only one
God.
That was the last time David Cohen saw
Rabbi
his talis filling. They got lost.
He's now a lawyer up in Sacramento.
Looking back, it wasn't worth the cost.
I want to thank the rabbi, my mother,
and my father.
Today, I am a man by Jewish law.
I accept all of my Jewish obligations.
I acknowledge that there is only one
God.
I acknowledge that there is only one
God.
All
right, that was it.
>> Unbelievable.
>> Thank you. Unbelievable.
>> Tali in studio JM in the AM. All right.
A couple of things. First of all,
>> you have the big concert tour coming up.
>> Yeah. I got to pull up those dates for
you.
>> Kabad of the Melands, May 26. That's a
week from yesterday. A week from
yesterday. Kabad of the Metallands means
what? In Rutherford, New Jersey. Right
here. Rutherford. Yeah.
>> Literally right here.
>> Yeah. Well, right here. Close enough.
>> Yeah. Kabad of Bedford. Where is that?
Up near the Catskills.
>> Yeah,
>> that's happening on May 28th.
>> Yeah, I've been there before.
They're bringing me back. I'm very
excited. Yeah.
>> Do they got a crowd up there?
>> They got a crowd. Yeah. It's a It's a
It's um again, you know, I work with a
lot of curve organizations, so it's not
going to be like Madison Square Garden.
They have a crowd, but they have a nice
community and they love getting together
for things and it turned out they know
it was a really nice turnout last time I
went and the communities in Kabad tend
to grow,
>> right?
>> So, we'll see what five years will do or
so.
>> It must be cool to be in Bedford. You're
right in the middle of all of of
festival land. like, you know, so it's
like every music festival on planet
Earth has been there.
>> Yeah.
>> In that area.
>> I played out there a few times actually.
The Sabba Music Fest was uh near where
they did the original Woodstock and I
played that one a couple times.
>> Amazing.
>> So yeah, exciting stuff.
>> On May 31st, you're in New Haven,
Connecticut at the Orchard Street Shel.
>> Yep.
>> Um you're going to California in the
middle of June.
>> Yeah. It turns out it's going to be in
Santa Barbara uh for Kabara Monteceto,
>> right?
>> Yeah. So it's going to be fun. I've
never been to Santa Barbara before. I've
been all all over California, but I
don't remember ever being in Santa
Barbara or San Diego.
>> So, they know you everywhere.
>> No, I get around.
>> Is Israel checking in on your music or
not?
>> Very much so.
>> Seriously?
>> I think Tel Aviv is one of my highest uh
listening cities. I was laughing about
it.
>> You got to do an Israel tour.
>> You know what's You know what blew my
mind? Brazil.
>> How do you figure?
>> I I don't I have no idea what what
possessed them to listen to me out there
in in soccer country. And then in the
middle of July, actually the end of
July, right after Tishabove, you'll be
in Hudson, New York. That's also up
there in the uh in the New York State
region, I assume.
>> Yeah. Kabad of Colombia County.
>> Yeah.
>> Boy, there seems to be a lot of Kabads
out there.
>> They're all over. You know what's crazy?
This past year, um cuz you know, for
many years, I've also done like
voiceover work and things. I'm like the,
for example, like the Zadei for Bella
Braha and a couple other little projects
and things. I was I was on the amazing
Torah bike. It was binyam and
>> oh wait how many years ago was that?
>> That was very that was my first uh gig
ever but like I did like commercial
video and things like that for JLI and
other retreats and things like that.
Kabad this year called me to do the the
roll call video that to do at the annual
convention.
>> I I saw it this year. That was you.
>> That was me.
>> Nice. I think I knew this. I think I
knew this. I wanted to
>> 500 mcvoys 300 in
>> and I wanted to text you. I seriously I
wanted to text you. Yeah.
>> To let you know how good it is. Thinking
that if it came from me, you'd really
appreciate it.
>> Very much so. Yeah.
>> And I don't know if I ever got to it or
not, but that was a great great
presentation.
>> Yeah. Knowing how much my father worked
with Kabad and how much you love Kabad,
it was probably giving him a lot of nas
to see me up there.
>> How old were you when he left us?
>> Uh 15 years ago. So I was 30.
>> Wow.
>> Just about. Yeah.
>> So you knew the whole history already. I
mean you knew everything before he left
us.
>> Yeah. It was uh
>> all the songs, the stories.
>> Yeah. There's a lot going on.
>> We went into We went into a lot of this
last time. Check out the archive section
of noms single.com, folks. Uh, all
right. So, that performance Columbia
County is going to be right after
Tishabuff.
>> Yeah,
>> you'll be up at back at upstate New
York. Information, go to tales.com.
>> tales.com and, uh, you get an
opportunity
>> in Rutherford. You don't have to be from
Kabad.
>> No, not at all.
>> You can just show up to Kabad of the
Meadowlands a week from a week from
yesterday.
>> People show up to Kabads all the time.
That's one of the
>> Oh, yeah. They don't they don't turn
away anybody. the Airbnb of Judaism. You
know, just this week, I actually sent my
Mashpia from Montreal Pearlstein. I sent
him uh my wife's uh friend has a cousin
that's going to Montreal with a bunch of
friends. She's like, "Oh, where are we
going to eat for Shabas?" I'm like,
"Hold my beer. I got you." You know, and
like we basically called uh he's like,
"Of course, yeah, we'd love to have
them."
>> It's quite a network, huh?
>> It's great.
>> Unbelievable. The only network bigger
than Kabad they say is like the uh you
know the the funy network on in in in in
the world where they have all the little
like mushroom roots that all connect to
one another.
>> The only one that's more populous. They
say
>> they always take second place. They
always compare them to the Coca-Cola.
They always have to be second.
>> Well, they say wherever the Coca-Cola
sold, you'll find them there. I had
something I wanted to do for you today.
It's possible. If First of all, if you
can play the
>> We got to do the single. Yeah,
>> the single. But I have another one if we
have time.
>> You tell me if we have time. I'll give
you we'll play the single and then I'll
do one more. Uh I'll do I'll I'll give
you a taste of something that's coming
on the next.
>> All right. Live music alert Wednesday.
That's right. It turned into a live
music alert with Tali. Yes. He's got a
brand new one. It's called Toreta. Of
course, originally recorded by his
father, the late great Mosha. Yes. This
is with Hilal Kapnik. And it's being
released today because guess what?
Tomorrow night starts the holiday of
Shabuis. Torah SA. It is Tales. Hillel
Kapnik. You're listening to the best
place for brand new Jewish music, JM and
the A.M.
My love
my Russy.
What's new for
evil
for sure
night
in the night and the Night.
I
night
in the night.
In the night. And in the night. And
night.
Russia.
And in the night,
in the night and the night. And in the
night and the night.
In the night and the night. In the night
in the night. In the night in the night
in the night in the night in the night
in the night
in the night and the night
in the night
and night and the night
In the night
in the night
in the night of the night.
in the night.
Oh, if people only saw what was going on
behind the scenes here. All right, there
it is. Toreta, the great Moshi single,
the cover done by Tali and Hill Kapnik.
And Tali has one foot out the door. He's
got this major appointment to go to, but
he says before he leaves, he's got to do
something for us. Tally, what are you
doing for us? So, this is going to be a
song for my uh my next album uh which is
kind of called Holy Outlaws Volume Two.
After the success of the first one, I
figured, you know, why not just keep the
same branding? All that brand equity is
worth something.
>> And so, um it's probably going to be the
first track on the song and on the
album. Yeah, sorry. On the album. And
the song is called Jewish American, Not
American Jew. And I'm hoping with the
three hours of sleep I got that I'll be
able to remember all the words.
>> It's radio. You could have brought a
cheat sheet.
>> I was raised on dust and freedom with a
flag out in the yard.
The Torah lit my fire and it still beats
in my heart. You can question all my
choices. Try to curse me till I'm mad.
But my covenant runs deeper than the
stars upon that flag.
Who I don't flinch and I don't run.
I'll always be a chosen one. I'm a
Jewish American and not an American Jew.
Those words mean something to me. They
should mean something to you. They get
lock me up in prison.
Throw me in a hearse.
No matter where I live, I'll always be a
Jew first.
From the shadows of my fathers to the
deserts of the west. Every mile is a
witness that our faith adds to the test.
You can take away my fortune. Strip my
body. Beat me down. But a sham's name is
on my lips when you lay me in the
ground.
I don't flinch and I don't run.
will always be a chosen one. I'm a
Jewish American, not an American Jew.
Those words mean something to me. They
should mean something to you. They can
lock me up in prison, throw me in a
hearse. No matter where I live, I'll
always be a Jew first. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable. Tell a yes.
>> Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.
>> By the way,
>> I like this one very much.
>> We can tell you're a yes.
>> Why is that?
>> Only your family
>> Yeah.
>> would toss in a line like throw me in a
hearse.
>> Only that's only you.
>> We're gritty.
>> And exactly. And I mean, I don't know if
we discussed this last time or not, and
I know you have to run.
>> Yeah.
>> But there are a couple of lines.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I'm talking about already.
There are a couple lines in the history
>> like Annabelle. the correct. That's one.
>> I actually covered that one, but I
didn't put it out, so I'm thinking about
it. Oh, I shouldn't even tell this on
the radio.
>> You know, it's funny. It's
>> It's like to me that one is like the
Chalkaw Ridge of of of my dad's
>> That was originally on which album?
>> Um I think it was on the first solo
album,
>> meaning Pil.
>> No.
>> Oh, meaning still on LP?
>> Yeah, I think so.
>> Wow.
>> I think it was. Yeah. And I don't know
if I was brave enough last time to bring
up another example I had and I'm not
going to do it. No, we're not doing this
now.
>> What's that one?
>> I can't do it now. I didn't even know if
I would say it to you on the air,
frankly.
>> Okay, fine. All right. So, don't say it
on the air.
>> Cuz your father sent me a cassette.
>> Oh, yeah. Don't say that one.
>> Oh, you know what I'm talking about. You
do know what I'm talking about.
>> Yeah, the wacky albums.
>> Yeah.
>> Holy cow, Tally.
>> I had a uh
>> you know the whole routine. Of course, I
know the routine, but I also know that
he had a he had a change of heart about
a lot of those things like at the last
at the last minute.
>> Yeah.
>> And I I understand after losing two
parents what grief can do to you
>> and it can get you into like such a
weird place.
>> Meaning when he lost his second parent?
>> Uh, no.
>> Is that what you meant or No,
>> you meant when you did.
>> No, I'm saying when I lost my when I
lost my parents. Like I had to work
through all these things and I
>> And you're saying that made you
appreciate what he was going through
then? It it made me understand him a
little better um and not be so judgy
about it because it's a powerful it's a
powerful thing
>> that I hear
>> like when you you know like uh my father
had a
an incredible amount of emotion and I
think he worked through them eventually
but uh you hear a lot of them on some of
the albums that you can't find anywhere.
It's interesting because um I always
tell my friends and for some reason I'm
having deja vu that you and I have
discussed this before but I always tell
my friends who've lost their second
parent to be prepared. I say this to
them during Shiva because that
experience is nothing like when you lost
the first one.
>> Yeah.
>> When you become an orphan, you could be
50 years old.
>> You grow up you grow up really fast.
>> And not just that, but it's a whole
different mentality.
>> You're a different you're a different
person.
>> You go into survival mode. That's that's
one way of putting again
>> the the yes extreme descriptions.
>> You have no fall back. You have no you
don't have a house to go to. You're if
you lose your apartment, you're you're
not going back to
>> correct. And some family and friends can
detect it and others can't.
>> Yeah.
>> But you have to be self-aware of it.
That's so cool. Do you understand what
I'm saying?
>> And um and but but
>> and then in general and and this is such
an important point and I discussed this
with AB. you should know once your
father passed away. I I spoke to AB
about it
>> because I figured who would have more
insight into your father, you know, from
the outside than he would,
>> right?
>> And we were both a bit confused about
it. This this what you call I don't know
>> his grief stage.
>> Yeah. But what did you what did you call
it? You called it a turn. What you just
call it like a he he looked at things
differently. Certain things he just he
changed his attitude toward
>> Yeah. No. No. the very very very end he
changes his tone towards it and he all
the things that he was pushing he just
kind of like I don't know he just made
peace with with everything that he was
denying. So he he worked through uh he
worked through it and thank goodness at
the last minute but um
>> which is comforting to people like me by
the way I didn't know that. Yeah. I
mean, but you know, you have such
tremendous respect for somebody and then
you lose them and all of a sudden like
uh your your brain if you don't have
somebody to actually walk you through
what you're about to experience and the
roller coaster that it is.
>> Did he feel that our community at large
somewhat disappointed him or let him
down? And again, not on purpose. I mean,
>> feeling for a lot of people was mutual,
but then again, like they weren't going
through it. He was
>> right.
>> You know, it's it's important to take
mental health serious and and and if you
have lost somebody, get a grief
counselor. I had paid a really expensive
one and helped me work through stuff and
and I came out healthier because of it.
But like uh you can't you can't you
can't put a price on that even because
if you don't the cost of not doing it is
way greater.
>> Wow. You know,
>> call it a vote. Anyway,
>> call it a vote. Boy.
>> Yeah. My pleasure.
>> I cherish our friendship. I don't know
how you feel, but I I I love the fact
that you and I are friends.
>> Me, too.
>> I appreciate that. And good luck with
the tour. We'll remind everybody as we
get closer to the events. Of course, the
big one or I should say the first one in
this area is just 6 days from now on the
26th of May in Rutherford, New Jersey.
Kabad of the Meadowlands. You go to
tales.com for information on that.
>> Thank you.
>> Toreta, you know it's going to be part
of our show tomorrow obviously in honor
of Shuis.
>> Tali, thank you.
>> On my way to uh to Montreal tonight.
>> Are you heading up to Montreal?
>> Yeah, my family is there. All my
siblings. I'm the only one who lives out
here. So, we're we're doing shoo with
the family.
>> You're sle everybody up.
>> Yeah, that's it.
>> Wow. Driving back Memorial Day or what?
>> Uh yeah, it looks like either Sunday or
Memorial Day. One or the other. But
we'll be uh we'll be on the road with
lots of time to listen to music and
that's
>> taking in Canadians game or not.
>> They don't. No,
>> they they I I I stopped letting them
disappoint me in 93.
>> But I think they're still in it.
>> You know what? Two a day late and a
dollar short.
>> Wow. Listen to him. A frustrated sports
fan to say the least. Holly on a
Wednesday live music alert Wednesday at
JM in the A.M.
I've walked through the dust with just
my shadow for friend.
Felt the heat on my back and the night
never end.
Every mile took a piece. Every fight
took some skin.
But I kept on moving
cuz I won't give in.
But when the ground shakes hard and the
sky turns red,
I hold to the words that my father said.
Ain't no higher
power that has felt.
He's the one that you'll call in the
lion's dead. Through the sweat, the
blood I rise again.
Cuz there ain't no higher power than
I've been cold in the rain. I've been
burned by the sun.
I've lost more than I want, but the
fight ain't done.
Got scars on my hands from the lines
I've crossed.
But I count it all worth
for the ground I've lost.
In the dark moves in and I can't see
when
I lean on the truth that's been mine
since then.
They know how power is.
He's the one in your cold in the lion's
den. Through the sweat and the blood,
I'll rise again.
Cuz there ain't no higher power than
If I'm outnumbered
1 to 10,
I'll still hold my ground till the very
end.
Ain't no higher
power than
he's the one that you'll call in the
lion's d through the sweat and the blood
I'll rise again
cuz there ain't no higher power than
ain't no higher
power that has
JM in the A.M.
Live Music Alert uh Wednesday with Tali.
Yes. Wow. Is that great or what? That
was great.
He's amazing. He He's just amazing. He's
just amazing.
Simple as that. The Toreta, the brand
new one. I'm sure it'll be in tomorrow's
show here at JM.
Uh just incredible.