Dr. Moshe Glick Live in Studio on Today's JM in the AM

Red Jamm. Well, you may recall many months ago at this point, Dr. Mosha Glick was in our studio. Uh he was in the midst of the whole situation that most of you are likely aware of. If not, you'll hear about it in a moment. And then toward the end of January, he gets the news, and this was a big newsmaking story, that the governor of the state of the outgoing governor of the state of New Jersey, Phil Murphy, went ahead and included him in his uh endofter term pardons, which I assume has completely set Dr. Glick free from all of this. But we will find out if I am right or wrong. Live in our studio, Dr. Mosha Glick, a pleasure to welcome you to JM in the AM. >> Thank you for uh having me once again. Definitely under uh better circumstances than last time. >> Different than last time. And you walked in here and informed me that you had just had you had just celebrated your sudosha which was a feast of Thanksgiving so to speak. And that certainly indicates I must be right that this entire episode is behind you. Am I right? We're probably at the half foot line at this point shockingly. Uh and you know since the Essex County prosecutor does listen, does tune in. Um you would think that you know you get pardoned and everything uh you know kind of drops away which we're very close but uh the Essex County so there's you still need a mechanics for it to happen. So the governor says you're pardoned. Essex County still has you know these charges against me. And shockingly the prosecutor was still giving us a difficult time. He's like to my like to my attorneys, "Well, you guys attorneys, "Well, you guys should go should go talk to the governor." Like talk to the governor." Like they're just they're just still trying to, you know, still trying to, you know, take their take their last bite at the apple. But last bite at the apple. But late late breaking news, breaking news, >> exclusive to Jam in the end. >> Exclusive. Yeah. So, um, the judge, and at this point, they they don't think they can do anything to me, so let's throw it all out there. >> Uh, the judge had the prosecutor and my attorney in chambers and said, "What are you >> How recently? >> This is uh this week, this past week, and said, "What are you guys doing? He's and said, "What are you guys doing? you guys are acting in bad faith. Uh and you know that was uh a trigger point for them. And I got a call from my attorney yesterday uh between Minh and Marv saying that uh the prosecutor told him they uh that after that judge meeting in chambers uh basically told them uh that he had uh written up the uh there's a dismissal with prejudice meaning that uh they can't come back at me and he's just waiting for a sign off today. So when we uh that will be the final makapat uh god willing should be hope. and the governor made a proclamation. They have to adhere to it. They have to abide by it. >> You would think so. It's the executive. >> Well, it sounds like they're heading in that direction. >> Yeah. I don't think they they can do anything. As much as they want to not let this thing go. >> And for those who don't remember, this was an episode that happened in West Orange as you were defending a Jew who was being beaten up and you were accused of uh assault, right? Assault and other charges. >> Yep. >> Against one of the enemy who was there at that episode. And your cause certainly became a cause celeb in the Jewish community, Barack Hashem. I mean, welld deserved, an international effort. I think you felt the love from around the world, from people, especially in this area, but I think from everywhere. >> It's been pretty incredible. And, you know, I think uh the message has resonated with lots of people because, you know, look, Jews are victims, right? That that's the bottom line. Uh that's what's happening around the world. But I think we're tired of just being victims. Um, you know, I could have just walked away, taken my slap on the wrist, and just been another victim, >> right? >> Uh, but I think what's motivating people is that we're fighting back and if we don't fight back, no one's going to fight for Amnisol as much as we're going to fight for ourselves. And I think that's what's really motivated people. And that's what the message that, you know, I'm hoping to continue to spread. >> And the whole essence of the episode was you fighting back. >> Yeah. >> Not not letting a Jew get beat up, not letting a Jew stay in a dangerous situation. >> Um, absolutely. And you know, but the Mishbahaka magazine, you know, really blew this thing open. I was shocked at how many people actually read Mishbaha magazine. >> Well, it's international. >> I was shocked. I thought Renee put this up this, but we were in May about uh, you know, Kikar Shabbat like on Friday. We're waiting outside Manny's. They're getting something like personalized, you know, and the guy walks up. He goes, "You're on the cover spot." I'm like, "Yeah." So he's take a picture. I'm like, "Yeah, sure." Not three minutes later, another guy. I'm like, "Renee definitely put you up there. There's no way." He's like, "Who's Renee?" I'm like, "Yeah, let's take pictures." I had three in a row. Yeah, it was pretty exciting. >> And you needed the boost at that time, right? You didn't know what was going to happen. I remember the last time you were here. It was obviously you had a lot of confidence and you knew you were in the right. But there was, you know, you're dealing with all these minations and courtrooms and lawyers and as you just described earlier, all these people who were involved and not everybody, you know, is is sympathetic to the cause. Let's put it that way. You had no idea which way it was going. >> Absolutely. It's terrifying. And, you know, I'm not going to pretend uh I'm braver than I am. Um there were times that you want to just crawl up into a ball. I mean it's from if anybody's ever gotten arrested. >> You wish it would all go away. >> Yeah. I mean like it's from the first minute you wake up till the last you know till you close your eyes. And look people were incredible and being part of Amish is a is a tremendous braha. But in the end of the day it was you know my mother would say it's your bayonet. It's on your back and and you know there were moments you know we said let's just you know tap out. You know, people have come to us and said we had uh literally an intervention where Renee had all my friends and the rabbi and everyone sat down and said, "Look, you fought the good fight. Take the PTI and walk away." And I I just couldn't do it. And I, you know, it's a brahham that I didn't. I'm I'm so happy I didn't. I >> Dr. Mosha Glick is with us. Now, when the governor goes ahead and pardons, does that indicate, and again, I just don't remember. Were these all state charges, local charges, federal charges, like what what were they and what does he have the jurisdiction to go ahead and do? >> Great question. So yeah, that's what makes this case so wacky. You know, my charges were all uh state charges. You know, >> I remember the DOJ was involved at some point. >> Yeah, that's what's incredible. Like you literally it's a VHAP. I know we got Porm coming up around the corner. But um so the charges against me were four charges. Bias intimidation second degree um aggravated assault third degree and two weapons charges for the 6-in flashlight that I was holding, which you know had potential charges of 10 years plus, you know, in prison. So the the uh governor only has authority. I I didn't have any federal charges. So, all those were state charges. And um you know, there's a process. You got to put together an application. Uh I had an interview with uh with the clemency board. Uh thought the interview had gone really well. And there's a very finite he finishes his term 12:00 on Tuesday the 20th. So, um >> when was the clemency meeting? How long before that? >> So, it was the Thursday before. Oh, right. >> Yeah. Right before the Thursday before was the meeting. We thought it went really well. Um, you know, and look, there are people that are advocating on our behalf. We weren't looking for special treatment that, you know, when when you look, that was funny. I was joking with Renee. When you look at the list of people that got pardoned, I'm like, I'm the hero out of here. Like, this guy ran over somebody. This guy raped. I mean, it's like the scariest thing. And I'm like, I'm like the cleanest one out of there. So, um, yeah, we were hoping we would get the call on Monday the 19th. That's when the clemency person said I would hear. We didn't hear anything on the 19th. And, you know, Rene and I looked at each other and said, "Listen, this is not where the issue was going to come from." We totally accepted that look, we gave our best shot. We did our studas. This is not where Hashem wants us to end it. And then we got the call like Tuesday morning at 7:30 in the morning. I was like, >> hours before he's leaving office. >> Yeah. Yep. So, and so his his authority is to basically and you know, it's a very cool looking document you with the steel seal with his personal signature on that says, you know, all charges are dropped. And again, I was never convicted of a crime. Um I was indicted. The first indictment was flawed. And Renee and I were willing to see this thing through to trial. I mean, >> now why do you think he did it? I mean, I know obviously there are people who advocate on your behalf. I get it. But do you think there was an element of he realized that this was a I don't want to say self-defense, but certainly standing up to defend somebody else? Think that was part of it or I'm being way too I'm giving him too much credit for being too altruistic? >> No, I believe there's I think this total altruism here. I mean, when you look at the evidence we presented the case, it's it's clear. It's not like it's, you know, oh, this, you know, it's like 8020. It's 100 to zero. You know, all of the evidence points >> and he saw that. He saw >> clemency board says it to him. He sees it. >> We present the evidence. Uh again there are lots of people that wrote letters of uh you know on my behalf. I joke that the suras so many sent letters he just pardon me so they would stop writing. Um so yeah I mean >> lots of kabad in this state huh >> God bless. You know I always say those guys there's lots of heroes in this story and you know and when a Jew's in trouble you know the first ones to answer the call are always you know always Kabad. Um but you know you mentioned the federal truth. So the federal government and that's why the federal government's not getting involved in a case if they think there's any question here. You know they they were they came out 100% on my side and uh as I mentioned on our last discussion they filed the first face act freedom of access to clinic entrances. It's a 1994 uh federal law that was originally put in place to pres pro protect um abortion clinics. And in order to get it passed by Republican senators, they included a provision in there to also protect houses of worship. So my case is the very first case that the United States of America sued two of these uh pal these uh organizations, jihadi organizations and four individuals. So those guys right now have federal charges that are, you know, going going on in federal court. We're hoping uh the criminal division will look at this as well. Um, and and we're very much hoping, and Logan, I hope you're listening. We're very much hoping that the federal government looks into the Essex County Prosecutor's Office because there's a clear bias. This case should have never come. Every lawyer, anybody independent, looked at this thing, said, "Why in the world, you know, did they bring this case?" >> Dr. Mosha Glick is with us. What was that Tuesday like? I always wonder what it's like to be, you know, to to win a Super Bowl, and you basically won the Super Bowl that day. So, what was that Tuesday like? >> Yeah, it's, you know, I I remember I saw a 609 number. I'm like, Rene, this is either be very good news or very bad news. Uh >> oh. Trenton, New Jersey. >> Yeah. The la the last time the last time I said that tornadoes, we were in the inbball about a year ago when I first got arrested. Uh when I first knew we were going to get arrested, I got a call from our I'm like, Renee, this can do, you know. So, we got the call and you know, the the person that I had done the head of clemency who I had done the interview, she goes, "Congratulations, you know, governor." And like just Renee and I looked at each other. like it's sometimes it's so hard to believe because we have this is >> this has been our lives for 15 months and it takes >> it takes over every aspect of your being. Uh you know it's and until I actually see that paper which god willing we'll see today you know where it says charge all charges dropped. >> Where will that be presented? >> Um I get it'll your attorney yeah there's something called e like the all the court documents get uploaded like all the lawyers can see. So my lawyer said, um, the A County Prosecutor's Office was just waiting for a signature and, uh, God willing, we'll see that today. I think that will be, you know, the total monkey off my >> And that's public information. I mean, yeah, we'll post it. I was going to say, you'll post it to all your groups and, uh, >> yeah. Yes. >> To all the people who've been following everything that you've been doing all these months. >> And what was the Sudas like? >> It was just such a um, such people had been so supportive and we just opened it up to the whole community. We had about 300 people. >> This was in West Orange. So, West Orange and Jersey. Shout out to uh Naomi Berg uh and uh and Larry Ryan who really put it together. Zombies Catering. They really blew it out. I said, "I just don't want to have like bagels and locks and it's a bris." I said, "That's special." >> Yeah. I said, "Go, you know, we want to see waffles. We want to see eggs. I want to make the inbball breakfast look like a snack." >> So, uh you know, >> that's a tough task. >> And yeah, they they they didn't disappoint. And um Rabbi Swickler was there. He spoke. Rabbi Ganak, who was very very helpful, uh you know, from the U. Um and we had a DOJ official speak as well. Wow. Yeah. He flew in just for the event. Um and uh to discuss what the Department of Justice um you know is doing. And this has really launched into you know advocacy. I think I maybe saw yesterday on Monday Rene and I were in Washington DC. >> Right. So why Washington? What was that all about? >> So we were invited by the White House to speak. There's something called the religious liberties commission which was set up by executive order of uh by do by our president and uh it's a commission with some very very high-profile people on it to focus on what can the president what can the white house do to protect all communities of faith we are under attack the Jews not just the Jews you see happened in in Minneapolis and multiple so they invited me to speak um at this on their uh Dr. Ben Carson, who I'm a huge fan of. He's >> Q&A or you just give a presentation. >> So, I give testimony and then there were questions and answers. Dr. Phil, the famous Dr. Phil was on there. Uh, Reverend Paula Paula White, um, the president's personal pastor was there. Um, she gave me her cell phone afterwards. We're already in contact. Uh, Dr. Phil, he heard about I'm doing Seagull. He wants to do a Dr. Phil show. So, um, it was it was very very powerful. I had an opportunity to testify about my experiences and, uh, yeah, the people spent a long time putting that together. It's, you know, it's on it's online if anybody wants to see it. >> How many people testified that day? >> Um, there were probably 10 to 12 shots. >> All with unique stories. >> All very unique stories and not just Jews. There were people that antivac you people that for their religious reasons didn't believe in getting vaccinated and all of the things that happened to them. Um, the, you know, Coach Pearl from the Auburn, he he testified. He's a Jewish Jewish coach. Great. Unbelievable. So, got to meet a ton of people. Um, we're going down uh to to the National Religious Broadcasters in Tennessee. That's their big trade show. That's next week in me in in uh and um going to be speaking to a number of the Christian Zionist, right? LeBron, we need friends badly. You know, on the left and the right, they're fraying. So, uh you know, this is kind of launched. So, I'm trying to ride my 15 minutes of fame. I maybe I can stretch it to 30 minutes. And that's the message that I'm really looking to try to get out there that, you know, uh we can't we cannot continue to be afraid. We have to stand up for ourselves. If we don't, no one else is going to. >> Is that the message to the community? Like if I said to you, what's your message to the community? Would that be it? >> Yeah. And I spoke about these sad. There were really three takeaways, you know, for me. Number one is that right, you can't, you know, it was a perfect partial was about Nakshon jumping into the water. And my message was this the Yamsu, this is our Yamsu. There's this virilent anti-semitism out there. And you know, Nakshon didn't wait for somebody else to jump in. And the miracle didn't happen until Nakshon jumps in, right? Hashem's ready to do it. And the idea of Moshe, I I I contrasted that with Mosha's leadership as well. What does Mosha in front of the in front of the palace? What does it mean ain't? There's no man. It's in front of imagine in front of the White House, you know, um President Trump would know what he sees. No, but Mosha when there is no person, we all need to stand up. And I think we're in a in a different time. This anti-semitism just feels differently. And Jews just can't be keyboard warriors anymore. We can't just write strongly worded letters. Uh I've been to dozens of protests. There's never been a scenario where there's been more Jews or people in support of Israel versus those against us. And we can't say, "Oh, somebody else will do it." We all need to step up. You know, it's that was that was message one. Uh message two was u be right. I'm I'm a big Rab from Goldberg fan. And it's terrifying, right? And you you think that you're going to do your establish your establish and all the things that Rene and I put together with the lawyers and the PR and you get to a certain point. Ira Bloom gave me this that a certain point you just have to say Hashem is driving the bus and you're on the bus. You did your estadas and when you make that jump and it's very hard to make that jump when you're in it, you're in the storm. But when you make that jump, a certain calmness comes over you and it's very hard to get there >> that he's in control. >> That he's in control. And there were so many messages. I mean, some I'm going to put this into a book. So many messages along that 15-month journey where Hashem is saying, "I'm here. I'm right here with you." But it's hard when you're in the storm. You can't, you don't feel it. You're like, I have to do this. I'm going to run through this. I'm going to talk to that person. That person's going to connect me with that person. And at a certain point, and again, I'm not saying to stop there, but at a certain point, I got, we got to this epiphany that Hashem is driving the bus. We're going to be okay. He loves us. And all these things, and now in hindsight, all those things that have happened, you know, we see them, but in in the storm, it's hard. And that that was message two. And message three at the Sudah Sada was we're blessed to be part of Amish. I don't think I think we take it for granted that strangers from across the world reached out. People helped us fund this campaign. People just and and my message to people is that everybody in life will go through a crisis in their lifetime. But even just reaching out to that person and dropping them a text to say, "How are you doing? I'm thinking about you. I don't know you, but you're inspiring me." Those each of those little pieces are so powerful to the person going through the crisis. You don't realize how much you're doing for them. uh you know when so that that's my soap box. Those are the three messages. >> Absolutely amazing. Um I I know what it's like anybody everybody knows what it's like uh when the morning doesn't start well and you try to go to work and get through the day, you know, the workday. H how did this affect your practice or thank God were you able to make it through 15 months of taking care of people's teeth? >> Yeah, I mean look there there's there's there were months that you know like I was just kind of going through the motions but look I end up I have a job, I have a partners, I have a family to support. So you got to, you know, compartmentalize these times. You just got to put it all all you know all aside. >> Every cavity got filled. >> Every cavity got filled. Every implant got placed. Thank god you nobody likes dentures. So implants have been booming. Uh you know people love implants. So you know I really focused my practice on the surgical parts of it. And um look I I do three days a week. So I had two days you know I had to cut down I used to do four days. I cut down to three days a week just because I needed the time. Um but yeah you you got to compartmentalize it. But I think that's also a very big um takeaway that when someone's in type in this type of situation, you should try your hardest to keep to your regular schedule and do what you need to do and be there for other people, you know, especially in a profession like yours. Like that's important in terms of moving forward, right? >> Absolutely. And it's easy to say and it's easy to sound after the fact that you know that all this has gone through. But when you're living and that's the point of when you're in a crisis, when you're living that crisis, but yeah, there's a certain mental for again it's the combination of saying I've done my estadas. Hashem has got my back. I know that. And compartmentalizing in your own mind. Um, you know, those three, you know, ingredients make you have to go on otherwise people crack up. You know, you've seen it. >> Yeah. >> Look, I got to tell you, I mean, from the first moment I met you, I felt there was a a certain positive uh energy that you were uh that you were giving off to everybody and displaying for everybody and in a very difficult situation. uh yet you were very, you know, you were ready to move forward and, you know, continue to fight the battle and I think it's one of the reasons that so many people took to your cause because they saw that you were somebody who was, you know, leading your own effort, but leading the effort in a very positive fashion. >> Yeah. No, thank you. And and again, I'm not going to pretend I'm braver. I didn't have those terri those bad moments. Um they're there, but you have to push through them. And I think as I said, in we are in dangerous times for the Jewish people, and everybody got to get on board. we can't rely on, you know, some of the old and I'm here to knock, but some of those old stodgy Jewish organizations which have, you know, they're great at having huge dinners and huge fundraising. Um, you know, we need grassroots is where where it gets done and the average yid has to step up. >> Well, they haven't adjusted to the realities of 2026. Also, they've got to, you know, >> they've got to understand the landscape of the way it is now. You experienced it firsthand. >> Yeah. I mean, it has shifted and, you know, and they are and, you know, that's part of the next, you know, chapter. People have asked me what's the next chapter for me. >> Look um >> you actually have a not for-p profofit that deals with anti-semitism or not. >> We do. We have a few deals with Israel. We have a few stand you know stand for Israel. We have a number and we we were involved Rene and I and Larry Ryan Barbara this we have a group that has you know has done this stuff for many many years. It just Hashem gave me the opportunity you know to really thrust it forward. So um but yeah the the point is I thought when this thing first hit me I figured okay I'll just make one phone call. These people know who I am. I'm not some, you know, some wacko not connected to the community. I thought the cavalry would arrive and it didn't, you know, and maybe it was because mine was a little scary. I had the criminal taint. Oh, we can't touch it because, you know, in some of the large organizations, we're not going to name letters. Uh, they actually sent their security people down to review the videotape with me. And they actually wrote a report saying, "Wow, Mosha was totally in the right. We need to get behind this." And the cavalry still didn't come. So I had to and and part of what my next mission is that look there are going to be other Jews that are going to be in this situation. So we're trying to really create that infrastructure whether it's um PR marketing uh you know legal there are all those pieces and again there were some organizations that really jumped in. Aguras Aura of New Jersey really uh really jumped in. Israel 365 Jewish Bar Association and I think I'm a pretty >> Kabad. You mentioned >> Kabad. Yeah those guys are amazing. So, um, so yeah, so I'm I'm trying to create that infrastructure so the next person that goes through this and I've already gotten a number of people >> I was just going to say unfortunately you're going to be a consultant now. >> Yeah. And you know, and I offer my services free of charge. Um, and I I've already had a number of cases. So what one of the other pieces that we've done is I've been working with the Department of Justice for five six months already. You know, um, going through these the case with us and, you know, whatever any way I can help these things, you know, bring them to light, I'm I'm going to do that. Do you get an opportunity to thank Governor Murphy or it's recommended you don't approach him or say anything to him? >> Yeah. Um I've done it publicly. You know, I'm sure, you know, he got a lot of heat for some of the people that he he pardoned. Again, I said I'm I'm definitely number one. The number two on that list is way down on that list for some of the stuff that went on. And people are upset, you know, for some, you know, if you're politically connected. I mean, that's always been the knock on the pardon. If you're politically connected and you did ABC, you're somehow going to get off. And that's not, you know, people feel that that's not justice. Again, mine was to correct an injustice. So, I didn't have that opportunity. I'm going to hopefully do that. Uh, >> but no one has said to you that that it's not proper to do so or anything like that. Like, if you met him, you could you could go up and say, >> "I'm going in for a hug." Me and Phil going in for a hug. >> Me and Phil are going to be hugging for sure at some point. We'll we'll definitely cross paths. Uh, you know, and I am tremendously grateful for for that and and the people that brought you know, advocated on my behalf to bring it to him. There's lots of injustices that happened in America. You know, I used to believe that the justice system is, you know, there's guilty and there's right. You show the evidence. But that's not the world we live in. And for Jews, even more so. It's a d it's a very very dangerous world uh we're living in as uh as am >> any website, WhatsApp group, or anything you want to mention to everybody if they're interested in following up on all this? >> Yeah. So, we do have a WhatsApp group uh that's updating. Um I just had a meeting with our social media person. It's taken up so much time that I'm I've turned it over. We actually have a social media person that's really going to be taking it over. No more. >> You can't have them do the root canals than you do the social media. >> I like that. Now you think >> Yeah, exactly. I should come here more often for business advice. I like that. Um, so no more Jewish victims uh is uh is our is our handle on uh on Instagram and um and Twitter. Um um it's Mosha Glick uh mlick usgmail.com. mglick usgmail.com will it will u put you into our WhatsApp groups and we're looking for fighters again I'm not you know that's the bottom line we need leaders people need to step up leaders and we need soldiers and that's the bottom I'm not saying I'm not saying we need to get physical I'm saying just people that will stand up be counted because this is not our father's anti-semitism it just isn't it feels different it's permeating every aspect of uh politics media you name it it's out there and if we don't stand up and we don't put together allies, letters, writing campaigns. That's our father's anti-semitism. We need much more uh we need to be up front and center and be counted. Now's the time. >> So glad you stopped by here today. We were thrilled with the news. Thank God. And it's amazing that you were able to celebrate with not just with family and friends, but really with the entire community. And I would say, I would argue really with the international Jewish community. So keep the party going. >> Thank you so much. Thanks for all your advocacy because it's going to be very valuable to a lot of unfortunately it's going to be very valuable to a lot of people down the road. >> We'll keep fighting. Thank you for you know taking on our cause and you know being so interested in spreading the word and uh it's tremendous. I have tremendous accaratto for for you for you know the Jewish link uh has has really taken our cause you know from the >> you made the front page very often. >> It was very funny. I said to Mosha Kindler came to the uh he came to the surah sada. I said Moshe no more front page stories. I said I'm going to have a Kazak. I said, "Now it's surprising if I'm not on the front page." I said, "So you got to you got we got to tone that down." And then just the la he put his story on after he he was he was at the >> Oh, he wrote about >> he wrote about it. It was on the front page. I said, "That's I said, Mosha, now I have a Kazaka." I said, "Nomas." So, uh, he's he's been incredible. And there are people just like that, you know, and again, the the unsung heroes that have, you know, have been in our corner. uh and you know we just have tremendous to amus to to so many heroes like that that you know we can't possibly name but um and that's you know part of the as I said of being you know part of am >> what do you say when people ask you if you voted for governor Murphy >> you plead the >> I say no I now I start all my speeches with pardon me so um yeah so no comment but I am I am a staunch Republican um in my it's in my bones >> but he but he did well by you if he runs again, he's got Phil, you got my vote if you go for higher offices for higher office cuz he's a man of principle. Look the he didn't have to do what he did and you know in Essex County there's clearly something that's pulling the strings behind Essex County. So he he he stood up and he didn't have to do it right. So I have a carovven and you know so much I think in politics are calculations. Am I going to upset this community? No, but he saw an injustice and uh and he and he did the right thing. So >> great point. Well said. Thank you so much Dr. Glick. Thank you. Pleasure. Appreciate you, man. >> Uh Dr. Mosha Glick on a Thursday morning broadcast at JM in the A.M.