Calendaric Trivia for 5787 and Beyond w/Nachum Segal and Rabbi Heber on JM in the AM

JM in the AM. Thanks very much, Rabbi Goldwer. Uh, well, it's a moment that we've been waiting for since the start of 5787. Rabbi David Heber, who's of course the rabbi of Kalavasc, uh, down in the Baltimore area and has a very prominent position as we know at the Star K and is author of a book that only he could write, a book entitled The Intriguing World of Jewish Time. In fact, if you love Jewish time the way we do, uh, it's a great book to get for your YT season, read it over yontiff or kalamoid. Relax with the intriguing world of Jewish time or by David Heber. H Eb is the author. Uh, today's segment is sponsored by Carrie and Joshua Lavine, our dear friends from West Hemstead, New York, in honor of their dear parents, Roxanna and Sheldon Ryback and Harriet and Alan Lavine. And we thank the Lavines for their generosity and for their shared enthusiasm they that we have with them for discussion about the Jewish calendar. Rabbi David Heber agar to welcome back to JM in the AM. >> Good morning to you and to all your listeners. >> Everything go well over you. honestly after I had a cold last week >> from Gaya on and uh but it's it was it worked out that um it was very >> I was thinking of you on Arab Kipper because >> I came I came up with the most lame trivia question possible. You ready for this one? >> Sure. >> Outside of the month of Nissan, right? Because Pesak's an exception. Peso's an exception in a lot of ways for a lot of things. Outside of the month of Nissan, and I, by the way, I don't even know if I'm right. I'm I'm here to find out if I'm right about this trivia question. Outside of the month of Nissan, >> what are the when when is the only time we don't say Ms. Marlo soda three days in a row? >> Outside of the month of Nissan, no Ms. Marlo soda three days in a row. I mean, technically, if Yontiff was was Thursday, Friday, >> Oh, I blew it. I blew it right off THE BAT. I BLEW IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. >> So your example would only work in I have one that works both in Israel and though you get though you get Thursday, FRIDAY EVEN >> OH MY GOSH. YOU'RE WE'VE STARTED OFF THE YEAR. I'M I'M PRACTICALLY on the mat ready to ready to cave into the 10 count. I can't believe this. >> Okay, but I know your answer. I know your answer. It was it was last well last right Arab kipper on a Sunday >> right kipper on a Sunday you get it right because then you get shabas >> correct shabas Sunday mon no yeah yeah shabas Sunday Monday now there is a defense for me on this by the way because in the in the and I'm sure you know about this in the atmosphere in the arena of Jewish calanderic trivia very often will say that it has to be three separate reasons it can't just be two days Russia sun that wouldn't count it would have the like when we when we do the remember when we do the five days in a row of laning but we don't countoid in that right the five days different so when it comes to Jewish trivia we have a precedent where it could be you know that it must be three separate reasons so in that case finally we've come to a conclusion that by example works >> absolutely abs granted >> thank god >> granted granted 100% >> by the way a couple of things I learned over this yontiff uh specifically on Saturday night the second day of Russashana. Are you aware of this Yaknahaz candle? Are you aware of this 2026 craze called the Yakna Yaknahaz candle? >> I've seen it around. You could buy it. I've seen it. >> So, I'm not going to go into what Yaknahaz is. Anybody who wants to know could consult with their rabbi. But what I will say is it gives everyone the opportunity to have somewhat of a more normal Havdala, which we'll need, by the way, this coming Saturday night, right? We're going to need it at two weeks in a row. Right. Correct. Two Saturday nights in a row. We're going to need it. Although, I'd like to find a Yaknahas candle that has a little bit of protection from the wind because we're going to be making Kdish in the Suka. You know, hopefully, if the weather's all right, we're going to make Kdish in the Suka this coming Friday nights. I would like to see a Yaknaz candle that has a little bit of a of an accutrin to it, a little bit of a uh of an addition to protect against the wind. But that but but that having been said um this basically gives you a candle has two wicks in it and it makes the whole mination it makes the whole procedure of doing havda during kdish on a Saturday night yiff a little bit easier. So you have seen this, >> right? Right. So you could pl put it in. In other words, you don't want to use your regular most people have those candles are uh >> Yeah. It'll burn out. It'll take a month to burn out. Right. >> Right. Or or the ones you hold. >> You don't want to hold it the whole night. Right. So you have nowhere to put it. >> So this one you don't have to have that. I mean you can use regular ner better not to you don't tip them. You just Some people look at the nearest some people go over to the nearest you put them close to each other. But this I guess you call it a in in the now on the topic of that you mentioned of course is the right >> in the of that you say in li of which we say every shabas on a week night >> right >> in after we say if you look at the gurus in the fifth per it says that this was the maranisa devel which is the the the pearl above this and the Mar notes that it seems that was written in Bavl of course east of and he actually speaks about the calendars and he says it it was made in Bavl because his terminology it seems to be there was no second day Rashana where he's speaking and he says in most years you have you have but in if you take away the second because then in most years you don't have it or in our terms let's put it like this but it said more than double than it is in right good point good point I love that reference >> written there so it was written there >> I love that reference there >> u so that's the story with the nahaz candle with havdalah uh on Saturday night the next two Saturday nights in it's obviously would be somewhat of a more regular havdullah in in Eritrol. Um, and and and Yum Kipper and excuse my ignorance on this. I really should know this. Why is it important and is it important to use a flame that was burning from before Yam Kipper for this past Monday night, which is a candle that again was had so to speak, right? Um so a regular mist it's it's um is a memory of right after he he did the um you know the of the tree of knowledge on Friday which was when he was created that was of course the and he did shuva because that was first rashana it was on rashana and then shabas was k or was totally light and now came shabas and now it was dark so struck two um uh two um blints together and now he had light. So as a memory of that that was the first bi shabas in the world we every m shabas we so to speak strike the match and light a candle and go ahead and make on that kipper you don't have that because kipper is is typically a week night like this year was a Monday night so the reason you're making on the air is because it's been forbidden the whole time so it's it's not your regular striking it's something that this candle was forbidden to use and now you could use it so therefore we use one that was already existing >> from uh from from from either before Kipper or technically if someone was ill and it was lit it was lit on Yum Kipper. If you have one you can't make a remission. >> You cannot if you don't have one. >> No. No. Because it right it's it's only it's got to be one >> again it could be lit as long as it's even lit from a candle. So if someone didn't have one you go to a neighbor and uh you know you use his unless it must shab the other. I think in that case is a discussion whether since Shabas anyway >> right >> you know it's not a problem like last year was last year was much shabas um well is that right no not last year um >> yeah was >> wasn't >> when last year was Tuesday last >> Oh no it couldn't have been Thursday night was Thursday night >> right but when it's Saturday night then you could do it >> right supposed to do >> very interesting and those who say you can rely on certain electric lights or fluorescent lights that do bar. Can if they were on in the sh the entire yum kipper, you think you could use those or not? >> Yum kipper. Uh well, fluorescent's an issue in general. You need a you need an incandescent bulb. >> So, so one if the nar tid was on the entire yum kipper, you think you could use it or not? >> Where where you could see the filament? Yes. >> Wow. >> I'll tell you a great story. You'll you'll up your belly. >> First story of the year, folks. Go ahead, Rabbi Hammer. >> You're right. I was in uh I used to I live around the black field. I go to Baltimore where I ded him for many years in Z, >> right? >> And uh I I ded for many years. The the one of the big there, his name was David, >> right? >> He was there a number of years ago. He was the vice president of the for decades. So he in the front they're good at they have like a little like kendalabra you know on the wall that's there you know behind the rough seat like an lab with two two n so one of them >> so usually people use um um um frosted bulbs >> because uh it's it doesn't give us much heat and it's covered it's not as bright he put in one of them on the candalabra was an incandescent clear bulb >> right >> that he made sure to put it. So it didn't match. One was clear and one was frosted. Why? Because when mat shabas was was yont they they make they make kdish on Friday night yont night, >> right? >> So let's say this this week m shabas is is you're going to have yaknahaz. So they would actually use the there's the answer to your question also. They would use the unfrosted bulb for havda because the the kazin making kdish would say the whole yak nahaz and they needed an air. So instead of making sure you had a candle say candle bringing it in and bringing it down they walked over to the bulb which was a again an unfrosted bulb where you saw the filament a regular incandescent bulb and that's what they made on. So you always made sure that it was it was there. So for these cases, >> you had the bulb that was in there. But again, incandescent because Abdullah has you need to the you actually have to see the ore um the the light the light the burning light so to speak and that's why fluorescent or LEDs are a problem for Abdullah. But uh in you know old incandescent bulbs where you see the filament is not a problem. Theyer who was the big, you know, the rail until he was nifer in the 5th of 1940, you know, right as the war as the he was there as the war was beginning. They say he made Abdullah on a on a candle, excuse me, on a bulb because he wanted to show that it lit electricity or that a bulb is is a is is a fire. In other words, when he was Piscar early days when he was a younger pit, there was the big Mahixson regarding light bulbs was he held of course it's a flame but to show it was a flame. They say this is legend that he made Abdullah on a bulb. >> Gavaldic Gavaldic. I love it. >> By the way, uh as an aside, throwback to an era, you just used the term. There was a time in our tradition when if someone had the title, you knew there was they were a serious Torah scholar. Yeah. So again today it's used in the in the German correct >> or you know asum that are you know very involved in their >> but usually learn it also right usually a level of learning right >> definitely definitely but it's it's more on the the you know they're busy with their kahila and community >> yeah my point is that they're so involved in the shul but they need to be at a certain level of education in order to do what they do in So that's what I'm saying. >> Absolutely 100%. >> What percentage of your sh of married men wear a kumer? I would say 90 because there oh everybody everybody wears >> and what about% >> 90 Russ I would say no right you know everybody oh come on everybody on on rash I would say I'm going to put it at 60% 65 70% because n I think the meaning there is to where therefore because Baltimore of course many saw she were here for >> was 1933 and many told me then so many people um you wear um >> so you know you know what the rule was when I was growing up and I'm sure this was the rule when you were rooting for the Cardinals in St. Louis as a kid as well. You know what the rule was? >> Okay. >> The rule was me. >> The rule was that yum kipper everyone wears uh married men except as you said you know someone who just had gotten married then they would not wear the first year and rashana anybody who was involved in the service would wear. >> Exactly. Oh, so you do you had the same policy and do you think that that's >> the same policy were were people who you know there were people who let's say retired Kazan you know wore it for 40 years >> ah >> who also like they like that was part of them so they kept it on interesting >> my memory correct >> I mean I haven't been to St. Louis in uh by my father when he died down for >> in almost 50 years you know when I was in eighth grade I guess was the last time. >> Why but nonetheless you remember the rule you remember the policy >> rules then and hopefully someone also. >> Yeah no doubt you do. Um, and if you had a single person in Shul who was involved in the service, would you have them put on the kit and talis just for that part of the service or you'd have them wear it the entire morning? >> I would have the whole morning, >> right? >> It was like the balm, right? So I'm I'm the machi for the key to mush, which of course is the first 30, >> right? >> Um, >> well, it's actually the second Oh, first 30. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Right. Sorry. >> Right. First and then thehat so I'm I'm the mus. So obviously the mak during the >> so we have very member of our blaz Shapiro who's a ink here and uh so he wears because you know he's the mak for you know for those and then for the ones after also but that he doesn't wait till like you know to put on his no the whole time the whole time the point being he's a single gentleman I'm asking I'm asking someone who's single. >> Oh, I see. I see. Listen, that's a good question. If I had somebody single, >> then would you have the balery or or the balor or whatever, you know, it is, would you have them only wear >> single? I have to ask my brother that question because I I never I only ded after I was married. My brother who who actually helped me a lot with I when I d I use my father's and I use a lot of Rashid in Chicago where I learned that I learned the Liber um and um so but my so I only started when I was married but my brother actually helped me learn because my brother was the Balmus for actually a number of years in Scarsdale of Scar Scarsdale >> and he was a bucker and his first stellar was in was in Overland Park Kansas. He was all but I think 19. >> Wow. >> He was 19. He was he was he was he was only stroll but that elman he was in the St. Lucy Shiva and he still has the clipping from the newspaper in Kansas City. grand I don't know it literally says that you see this 19year-old and and uh anyway it it was very interesting we always laugh about it but he was a ber obviously he wore a kit he was the busim I have to ask him later >> or the answer I was a single balm musf for years and wore a kit and talis the entire ding in fact it was the only time >> rashanium kipper was the only time I ever put a talis over my head because they insisted I do it and I was single But you know D for the helmet. I mean only at the helmet obviously. >> Right. >> How many years are you bomb? >> Uh this past Monday was the 43rd. 43 years in a row. Wow. >> Yeah. >> And I'll tell you I'll tell you the one above gives you he gives you a special strength on Yum Kipper because on paper it's impossible to get it's impossible on paper to get through the day. He gives a special bra. I'll tell you mish. A special bra. >> It's unbelievable. >> Unbelievable. Bra I used to have I I was in the car in San Diego and my first uh my first stellar was in uh in San Die in La Hoya California where I down for a number of years. First I was in the man in Kyle and then even when I you know moved east I used to go back be what Jeffan was the RV then when I was there. Oh, I remember it. >> It was beautiful. I rub down, but I have some wonderful, you know, wonderful memories of of uh of Dominique there. >> Very nice. I have two more things before I turn the uh the um podium over to you by David Heers with us. We're talking about 5787 Kaland Derek trivia and I now seagull going through my little nitpicks from the beginning of the year. The the controversy of this year, Rabbi Heber, began before the year began. I couldn't believe it. Mamish minutes into the very first night of Russia Shana, there was already a controversy. I'm wondering what you're going to catch on. This was unbelievable. I couldn't even believe it was a Shila. And I till this day, 10 days later or 12 days later, I'm still convinced that there's no other side to this argument. And I need to know what you say about it. You ready for this? >> Go ahead. We say kabala shabas on the first night of rash shana. Right. It was a Friday night. >> Right. Right. Yep. There's mash or if you're in the you start early. Everybody has their minute. >> It comes time for kadeshum after hashem malik and because someone forgot to do so I yell out a and all of a sudden people surround me and tell me you know it's a makus whether you say la in kabal shabas. a situation like this and obviously most people pus and we do so I wasn't wrong I just didn't realize that there's actually discussion about it and then after Davini ends people are coming over to me to tell me stories about gdole Torah that were mupuk we're not sure about saying laa during kabal shabas on that Friday night or not are you aware of any of this rabbi >> yeah I actually spoke about it Friday night but it was it was actually it was unprepared remarks actually in the middle of speaking Friday you know the first hour I speak um you know between um Kabal Sham so speak and and um actually go through some of the things of the year I give a a preview to some of the things we talk about actually right >> uh not not totally not every some of the we some interesting facts a little more a little less right but that's why I prepared for the show you know >> of course yeah but I I mentioned that that that this There's a famous with a famous story with art scroll on this I believe if I have the story correct >> um when art scroll started publishing you know the maximum a number of years ago >> so they got to this kades now you look at most they write shabas and they write kuf which that's for kades awesome right over there because the old makum you know you were flipping the pages right >> but our school you know wants to be very clear and and concise and stick put it in there people have it got to this question do you say lea or Not because it's is it or is it on one hand you were mabo rash at the same at the same time it's really the day is still it's before the day is still right but what is it so they say they went to on this and I think this is a recorder in one of the books and they say speak to the veteran gab right because this is >> meaning by way and the story you're telling is the one that I was old that night. But it it doesn't even make sense to me. They're going to they're going to agor to ask is it considered Russ or not? That's the sila. The sila is not that we say the sila is is that considered kabola of Russ or not at that point. Right. Right. I mean you're saying a lot of men hug him that weighs in on obviously and hen certainly weighs in on a lot of them. I I guess because this it still might be totally a minute because since there's two sodom here >> on the coin >> and there really aren't two sodom in other words you see the second side I don't even see the second side you you hear the second side on this >> absolutely >> wow >> I actually spoke about two sides also on your kipper you have to hear this kamachia you ready >> okay when someone has an argument with somebody so I take my side right my side Gamashia 94 >> right >> okay 94 * 2 is equal to 188 that is the gamashia of pak which means a wise person >> right a wise person I hear my son and I hear your son right okay but it's not over yet okay then if you take pak times 2 188* 2 you get 376 that's the gamashi of sham >> wow >> shull is when I know my tad I know why my tad might be wrong I know your sad and I know why your side might be wrong and I can't come to a conclusion but shalom is when I've thought through your sudden and thought through the the shortcomings of my sudden so to speak of my side >> I I thought through the other side >> I I didn't I didn't mean to say you're only a side guy don't worry >> no I'm saying that I can't even get to first base on the other side like I don't know why it doesn't make sense to me that that one would think it's not Russia by the way if it was after would That clear up the question like should we just say Kabala Shabas after skier that night? >> Yeah, but the idea is to say Kabal I mean Kabal Shabas we're supposed to do before before ski even though in the winter we don't really but one is really supposed to kab Shabas before and night that's really happening. It really depends when you start MKA like we start MA 20 minutes before >> which has its own whole story why we do that every Friday night we start 20 minutes before that way we're done five minutes before >> right >> and uh we once we we right we talk about we people have in mind to do shabas >> already and they're doing it early >> so um uh >> the real question I'll tell you and I've I don't know an answer to this question are you not going to avail them at that moment if if they are Remember, >> how did I not think of that? How did I not think of that? >> Because you would think you would think that because Rashan is mativa, >> you would think you at that point you wouldn't do it, >> right? But it's not Shiva until now is for you. You just finished Mina. >> You haven't. >> Have you ever had that situation coming? >> Yes. And and by when my father passed away and the story at the yard site is tonight. >> Wow. It was the Levia was the Levia was Thursday 30 years ago >> and Friday was Arab shabas that year and so we had a we had one minion because was yontiff we had one minion for ma at 5:00 and we sat sha from 3:00 to 5 about and then 5:00 we got mka we sat till about 5:30 and then we scrambled to get ready for I didn't think it silent until afterwards but actually stop and I wasn't yet. We went my brother and I but we came in time for my which was already you know you know whatever it was half hour so by the time we got there it wasn't relevant had I thought of the silent advance I would have asked should we come for >> wow >> I don't know I don't have the answer I don't have the answer I did tell somebody this somebody somebody was nif my um my neighbor's father-in-law was nif and I mentioned this to him because he has brother-in-law and I said can you Find this out for me what the what the D on this is. I've never seen the Shil anywhere and it's only the Ga is another calendar fact. It's only g this year versus sh and sukus and that's it >> right >> because pes people finishes and shulus is never a Friday >> right >> it's I mean is never Friday never starts on Friday it can only be rashis >> that's right in a year like like now where >> yeah right it has to be Friday night it has to be Friday night right >> wow amazing >> exactly >> uh and that caner Samuel Heber is your father 30th Third side tonight. >> Yes, >> 30 sight tonight is Namash and Aliam. We'll have an opportunity to actually hear one of his pieces at the end of this conversation. My final question before I turn things over to you and I I know I've taken a long time to get here. An interesting thing happened in our sh over Yantiff on Russia. You ready for this one? >> Sure. And there was a an elderly gentleman mid 80s elderly gentleman in shu who's a cohane and his son comes over to me and says um my father would like to make kdish you know after shakers because you know he he needs something to eat understandably you know before a chauffeur a lot of people break anyway before a chauffeur with kdish and uh do you have any and we only have wine we have no grape juice is there anybody here who would drink the wine because and he knew I wouldn't because I'm about dab musv etc. I'm not going to I don't make kdish before him. >> Right. >> So he says anybody here could drink the wine from his kdish because he would not want to drink the wine because that would be a pro right a problem with his dening. >> And I'm saying to myself number one those shs that have a kdish before a chauffeur are they careful that they're calling him shouldn't have wine or is this a an extreme position on the matter? >> I assume I assume they're careful. The mades >> wow >> is not a cayen. I mean need to be encouraged to make sure not to have wine before they do. >> Right. Exactly. Right. Otherwise that's also because Ty why would we move it to >> Right. >> They going to make or whatever it is and then uh that's it. >> But I never thought that. >> I never thought of that. That's unbelievable. So um so they wanted to make sure that they had a you know somebody who would actually drink the wine so that um you know somebody would have it and >> he'd be able to make kdish. >> Amazing. >> Uh actually it was more than that. They wanted someone to make kdish for him. So the person making kittish would drink the wine and he would be yay. It's America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listener sponsored digital radio. Round the on the web single.com on the single network and of course the beloved NSN app by David Heers with us. It is a discussion of calendaric trivia and different things about the year 5787 with a big thank you to Carrie and Josh Lavine of West Hemstead, New York, sponsoring this morning's segment in honor of their dear parents, Roxanna and Sheldon Ryback and Harriet and Alan Lavine and Rabbi Heber. What's the first thing you want to tell us about the year 5787? >> Okay, so public service announcement in Savannah. >> Yeah, what's the story? Is it tonight or tomorrow night? >> Okay. Well, it's supposed to be cloudy. I looked in New York, your best chance is going to be tonight. Okay. >> I think it's 40% cloud cover. >> So that's why they're asking people to do it tonight because tomorrow night's really the deadline, but tonight's going to be easier to find the moon. >> But Friday night also, >> right? >> Um so someone from here told me to go. I said, "You'll have no problem Friday night at all." >> Right. >> Um it's it's the I I looked I think >> tonight, this evening, the clouds diminish as the evening goes on. I think 2 a.m. is actually the ideal time in the New York area. Tomorrow night's going to be harder and Friday night harder. >> What's it like? >> We have that opportunity. >> What's it like? >> Also, also, although it's it's going to be about 50% cloud cover tonight, 40% tomorrow >> and I think 30% Friday night. So, we actually get a little bit better. Although, that could change. But, I would just tell the listeners when you see the moon, just say it. Don't wait, >> right? >> Don't wait because it's in it's going to be in and out. Grab you if Roy is there three people, which means a lot of people. If you have two neighbors, go grab them and say it. If you don't, just say it right on the spot. >> And that includes, by the way, early in the morning. If someone's walking to their car at 4:00 a.m. and sees the moon, be mad, right? >> Yes. Except now the moon the moon is not out. Probably by 4:00 a.m. tonight, it probably sets already. >> Wow. >> Right. Only the Friday night, it be all night until dawn. um basically to to basic dawn. But tonight it probably sets I'm going to guess around 4:00 a.m. Uh and tomorrow night probably around 5:00 a.m. That's a that's a rough guess, but but uh yes, you know, you know, maybe set your if you see it's cloudy, maybe uh tonight in your New York, you might want to set your alarm for 2 a.m. and and and because it might be your last good chance to say it, possibly. How uh how depressed was your congregation when they discovered uh after 7:30 p.m. on Monday night that there's no visible moon outside? >> Yeah. So, they they we knew it could be rain. >> They adjusted they adjusted they adjusted accordingly. >> They didn't mind they they didn't mind eating five minutes earlier. >> No, Mike. I looked people were tuming already last week. It was it was uh we were get we were getting the urgent phone calls already la last week's week or last week it was it was it was >> by the way and if you knew then what you know now you would have done it much to shabasha right >> Baltimore not really I would I I we spoke to the weatherman here and uh you know somebody from you Bill Learner is a is a retired uh weatherman and I spoke to him We said we should be fine by at least Friday night we'll be uh we'll be f fine, >> right? >> Um I mean we'll be okay. We'll be here in Baltimore and New York, >> right? >> If I knew what I knew now, I probably would say last say last week because I think >> well there's another there's another you know tweak to the whole New York thing. I mean th those who you know I mean I'm I'm living on the lower east side of Manhattan and David Feinstein of blessed memory. >> Oh correct. That's right. Right. He would say he said the moment the moment you were able to say it. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Yeah. Didn't wait seven days. Didn't wait. Oh, I don't know. I shouldn't say didn't wait seven days. I don't know if he waited three or seven. But whatever he felt >> three, right? I did go to the >> marav they said I was at a million I was at a relative common relative and uh >> and it was like the l I think and he went out >> said okay after mar you know it was very dollar hey we went outside it was in the atrium in Mont went out to the parking lot we said we say but you are allowed to say it on Friday night >> if it's the last night >> right >> um you just hen says you just say the brah itself also from low side of course Right. >> Um you just say the itself you don't dance, you know, you say, >> right? >> Anyway, okay. Of course, it's a leap year. So, we'll start on >> right. >> It's also >> that's soon, >> right? We're we're we're back on soon. Yeah. Few weeks. >> Two weeks. >> Okay. Because it's a leap year and it's a which means have have both 30 days. It's it's a 385 day year which make it the makes it the longest possible year. >> Wow. >> Which also means 85 is 55 time 7. So that means it's 55 full weeks. So the next week, next year rather will repeat themselves this year. Purim was on Tuesday this past year. It'll be a Tuesday next year. Pes was a was a >> Wednesday night, >> Thursday this past year >> and it's going to happen again. Rash of course this year was Shabas and next year it's going to be a Shabas again. We get two years in a row where we don't get to blow on the first day or takea on the first day of so it's going to be two years in a row. Are we going to have that? The other very interesting thing, people are going to be um not remember this so well. We have two Shabas Hanukkah this year, >> right? >> The first happened since 2009 and it's going to be two years in a row. Um which was interesting because check your school calendars and the all the schools had to decide which jobs to give off, >> right? >> What was the sock, ditto? It depends on the school, I guess. In Baltimore, they pick the first Chabas, >> right? They pick the first Chabas. I think it may have to do sometimes with you give up Thursday, you give off Monday. Like if you give up Monday, then then okay, you want it to be Hanukkah. You give up the first. >> I think it is the Monday that ends up making a decision, right? I think it is the Monday. >> What does it do with the parios? We have 55 weeks. We have zero double parios this year. >> Actually, we're going to have three double parios this year. Could you believe it? In the NRA yard. >> Yeah. What's going on here? I protest. THIS GAME IS UNDER PROTEST or by >> Okay, so the answer is cuz you got all these shabas coming up, right? Because Friday shabas have together. They're almost always together. >> I was looking because because so basically Okay, this one is very fascinating. You ready? >> Yeah. >> We're going to go the longest. Oh, but before that one more point about Kaneka couple points is that we get the mostims because you get shabas you get musf then you get two days of mus two mus and you get the last day right so you get 28 you get 28 and then you got two shabos so you get six sudas >> and mala too you get the most so it should be a year of uh you know kanekas >> of nim a year of nim >> of kanaka >> and the longest mafia also because we lan the last day of Khan. >> Right. >> The mafia is 40. >> Right. >> Which is by the longest by four. >> Right. >> Right. We l that whole and and it's the only ali shabas. It's two parases besides double par. So really we have we have on shabas four double par this year. Right. Because you're going to lay three together. And then you l the mir you lane the end of and the beginning. Oh wow. this morning to get that. So, uh, >> three part auction off that. >> What is it? >> Listen, >> it's by Aishv and Mikates. Two Shabas Mikates. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, again, we will not be >> the longest. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. >> No, I was going to say again, we will not be reading the Torah for Mikates, which is common. >> That's correct. That's correct. Okay. The longest streak of Yeah, let me explain. Every week we say 13 taknas. We start Sunday through through Thursday two. Then that's six times two and then Friday morning is another is 13. >> Okay. We don't say by ma Friday and we don't say shabas. The longest streak possible is going to be this year. We're going to go eight weeks straight without a break from tman. Of course unless you or um you know zabris why is that? Okay. So Kaneka is going to end on a shabas, >> right? >> That's the last day. The next day is going to be giml through the month of four weeks. You say every day. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Now comes which is going to be on a shabas. >> It's only one day. >> Yeah. >> Right. The anyway don't say Friday. The anyway don't say shabas. And now Sunday's bvat. And now you got four weeks in a row again. You have tishvat. The tishvat is also a shabas. Oh, is that funny? >> So the so eight weeks in a row of Pakam saying >> until Rok >> correct. >> Wow. >> Exactly. >> See, I thought Yeah. Go ahead. >> Go, go, go. Now >> um so no also this is very interesting. You have you have threeishes of tyras that are lame. >> I'm assuming the most there can be >> the most there can be and really okay. So the most ups any year of course is a Titus every year five times >> there's hashem >> as far as though three it's possible only this year this type of year where you have you know shabas and pes on Thursday um where you have three of >> so obviously obviously alf is one of them >> is one of them >> one second I got to think I got to think I got to think >> I got I got to think I got to Adolf is one. So that would be Sunday Monday, right? Adolf is one day only. Right. Is Adolf one day? >> Oh, two days. Two days. >> Two day. So Ad B is one day. >> Ad also two days. >> Oh, it's also two days. There two months in a row with a two-day roesh. That in and of itself is unusual. >> Correct. Except by >> Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kissv could be also correct. Wow. >> Let me think this through for a second. So if Sunday, Monday is Adaf and Tuesday, Wednesday is Ad B and Thursday is Nissan. Oh, so will be uh will be >> oh no, >> notes Friday. >> So wait, so we have olive and >> and and coming up >> also, right? Wow. >> Sunday Monday. Okay. Now, here's something very interesting for the people learning. First of all, we have the mash here, >> but do the math and uh and and you're going to appreciate the Shiloh also. Okay. As a followup to this, >> the braus the braas is going to be doing the nine days. >> Ah, a natural. >> The first >> we'll get we'll get together. We'll get together for hot dogs on that night. Rabbi, you >> you got it. It's the first sem of in in the nine days since 2001. >> Wow. >> Right. >> And it's unusual. We're talking about, you know, over a week. Like it's not that crazy, you'd think, you know, for the final. That's so weird. Wow. Interesting. >> And And is there any is there anything that's close to uh Patanis Burim or not? anything close to thanks Mim as far as uh >> making us see him >> in terms of the end of No, I think well I'm not sure I don't have that's a good question. I'm not sure um mida starts two months before the mash. No. So we'll be will be we'll be in the middle of the last of you know >> because the sea mash is around. So two months before that you know it's 73 by if you if you hold on to the other one you have to hold on too long. It's probably no we're not we're not they don't see him right then. It don't seem unfortunately which leads to a brak this is a fascinating shila that only knock you appreciate more than anybody else. >> Yeah. >> You ready for this? >> Yeah. >> In 1923 1923 the lavina ro received the shila from the dee dafi of Berlin. >> Wow. >> And their shila was is bro. We're talking now the scene was I think dollar kiss 1923. They sent the sh two weeks earlier in the safer of of the leader of their shil was could we count the last d for our or not meaning the last blood of is short it's only about a third of the >> so we we made up to learn of daff and braus is only 20% of a blot does that count we made a net to learn a blat The mamish brought up an issue about whether there's a shear for a blood or not. And I don't mean a shear a lecture. I mean a shear a measurement a you know that that it's got to be a certain length. >> Correct. So he wrote I'm so happy to see that they learn in in Germany. I'm so happy and and he was you know very touched. And then he writes that uh that okay you were mabo to learn according to our seder and our seder has the first and we calculated that we will count the last even if it's short like is the shortest one it's only a few lines >> right >> even that do is going to count he doesn't write but that's the shortest he writes as a short it still counts as a daffo. >> A dafomib. We have a dafomib. It might it might be the only technical question to ever be asked about dafomi. >> Actually, there's another one, but we'll save it for the next time. >> Technical silence someone else got, but we'll save that one. >> So, tanis bakarim is right in the middle of the final maka. So it's not near a sem unless someone wants to wait you know at the ma before the final maka and I think the sem hashas that they're planning for the big stadium I believe is the 6th of June and the final do and the final daf is in fact Monday the next day so that night they'll legitimately be finishing it with tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people literally on the night of the final do like they couldn't have planned this any better. >> Right. Right. Bam. >> Pretty amazing. >> Okay. >> And then Shuis will be that the Friday night afterwards. So So how many how many people Rabbi Heber are going to be learning for blot on Shuis night to try to try to catch up to the beginning of brother. >> Yeah. >> Unbelievable. >> Yeah. Stay ahead. >> Yeah. Stay ahead is right instead of falling behind. Rabbi David Heber is amazing. Rabbi Heber's the art side. Rabbi Heber's father is tonight. His name uh Rabbi Heber >> a small pin husband of Halevi. He was a beloved in St. Louis in Ferris Israel. >> Tell us what we're about to hear. >> And a Rebi in uh in the FC Academy for 27 years. St. Louis >> beloved Rebi. >> Tell us what we're about to hear. >> Oh, so Kak my father made two records and one was in the early 1960s. Um and one was in the mid70s. I remember when he was preparing that record I was a kid and this is which he sings very beautifully and there's one you know one of the pieces on on his second record that uh master pieces that uh records that he made that he published and uh I remember very well when he was you know practicing. >> Wow. Number seven aliyah we'll do that piece right now. I'm assuming the gabi knows that you have the um tonight I would assume. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's well prepared. >> I take my aliyah. I take my most guessy. I always take it, not rash. Most of them take rash. I take yum kipper because therefore when it's a shabas, I get the aliyah the shabas before the yard site. So I always do yam kipper. >> Very good. And um obviously on Monday you made a mole during and you'll make another mole I assume tomorrow morning. >> Well, tomorrow you can't cuz there's no toxins. >> Oh, right. Right. We can't make a mitzvah. >> So you tak are relying on the on the one from earlier in the week. No. >> Yeah. I make it sh I'll do it. You know >> by >> I actually did it by my my grandson's bar mitzvah was this past week name for my father. So I actually mi in the sh because of the yard coming up and we made him >> unbelievable. >> Beautiful. Uh I can't thank you enough. This was amazing as it always is and thanks for putting up with all my uh nitpicking on certain things especially toward the beginning of the year and the most important thing is it should be an amazing very long after all it's the longest year very long and amazing and happy and peaceful and wonderful year for everybody ahead. >> Amen. And uh your listeners, you and your family, your listeners should have a and a good for for >> Amen. Thank you so much. Um, Rabbi David Heber, of course, his father, uh, Caner Samuel Heber, whose 30th yard site is tonight. Keakto by Caner Heber here on JM in the A.M. She letoch. to for that's a me Hey, the call of the by yourself. Oh Lord. Oh, B all shers in the God is your man. Your menu is your menu. Your man your man know God is your man you know God is your man know your man know your man C man JM in the AM with caner Samuel Heber whose yard sight is tonight his 30th yard site. Big thank you to her by David Heber. Get her by Hebra's book. You'll enjoy it and it'll be an amazing addition to your yiff reading. I can guarantee you that. The intriguing world of Jewish time by David Heber. And I thank him for all the time this morning. 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