Moving A Sefer Torah To A House For Leining Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 135 Seif 13-14

Good morning everyone. Today is Dalav the yard site of the Rami Pano. You know on B isaitzki on giml raami pano on hey so many of the great in the nine days. I think because desire says then the merit of tasting of the the mystical portions of the Torah will be redeemed. So therefore in the nine days when we're hoping to be redeemed these we know that when a passes away their teachings are imbued in the hearts of but still the whose yard is tonight says the way to consummate your relationship with Hashem is anyway okay is one of the most interesting there is no commentary on the Mishna and I'm not aware any other place in the where he does this. He says pay look if there's no except for a blind or someone who's not proficient that's okay. Okay. So, he's being he's giving us here. Okay. We're going to try to finish him in people who are imprisoned. We do not bring them the safer even on why you can't move a safer. You don't move a safety for the people. So, even people they have no alternative. You can't bring a saferra to people in jail. That's if you're only bringing it for the ka. But if you prepare a safer a day or two before, meaning you can't bring them a safer for the ka, you're going to bring it to them just for the ka. But if you bring it to them a day or two before it's permitted, Zman says there are three things that people may mistakenly think you have to do three times. One, you need to fast three times before your bar mitzvah. No, you're not allowed to fast three times before. You're not allowed to. Not people think you have to fast three times. You can't do that. There's now when it comes there's certain rules depends if the kid is a buri not a buri for yam kipra you might have to start a year or two before but there's no den three times it's a mistake you need to wash your hands for three times for bread it's only two times and the other thing is you need to lane from the toyra three times if you want to move it that's also a myth says of you look you need to just prepare it beforehand, a day or two. We'll see maybe even less. Um says the if the person's inv you're always allowed to bring him the safer says the same thing would be now who is this? This is the however says some disagree because they're in anos who is brings it down. So therefore you could bring someone a safer. What about paras? What about you bring the do you make do you make do you make bra says that possibly not let's see the the ders brings could they make if you're only reading this from he says that if the minion that with the already heard they could make the on alone I don't know it looks like there's a mistake in the print over here cuz Then he says that sounds like you can't make the braha. Oh, so some po can say like this if they already heard then maybe you can make a z. Why? because maybe they were only making a bra on zakar after the regular sat ra says no even if they didn't hear the parash yet they could still make on zakar why would zak be contingent on if you already heard the regular parash what if some of the already heard zak yash says you need seven people that didn't hear zakar and listen say no you just need six says this is what I thought you need 10 but then he says okay so for par you'd be allowed to bring a safer to somebody the says the of this is from the that we always say go to the but if the people are great theor is so the asks how could this be a source that you're now to bring a sat to someone that's talking about where they're able to go to the Tyra so it's a zul but if they're in jail or they're sick why Can we bring them the safer Torah? The preadesh asks this question. The says you're allowed to. And therefore the beh is strongly inclined to say that if someone is ill or in jail you could bring them the safety under all circumstances says if you look into it even the morai who says it's user that's only if you're dealing with individuals in jail because there's no that's on them in the first place because they're only But if you have 10 people in jail that it's and they can't go, even the would agree you could bring them the safer. That's the is strongly inclined to say that this din should not apply ever. Why? Because the that's the source of the that you can't bring people say that's when they could go to the Tory. But if they're in why should they lose out? And then the adds even the who says you're not allowed to that's only who of was never in the first place. But if you have a million of people that need a safer, you can always bring them a safer. So let's say like this, you hear that there's a new sh opening opened up and they need a safer tra and they ask, "Could we borrow your shyra? Could you lend it to them? Could you bring it to them after your shaw lanes? They don't have a satyra maybe not. Why? Let them come to your sh. They could come. That's not an onus. I would say that's not an onus. Anus is when somebody's a or someone who's you have 10 people. They want to make a minion and they say could you bring us your safer tora after the laning. You say you're more than welcome to come down the block to where we are. Then I don't think you could bring I don't think the would would be compelling. Is that an I wouldn't call that an it's an inconvenience. It's an inconvenience but I don't think you could extrapolate and say straight up that the would allow that. >> There's only one or there's more than one. >> No, >> you're saying so they come after the year later. >> Oh yeah. Or or or Yeah. Or good point. Or let's say um let's say there's let's say your shell has numerous and that shell doesn't have and they want to borrow they they want you to bring it to them now for so say come to us we have a side room lay it in our shell you come to the Tyra we don't bring the TA to you we don't bring it to you however there's an easy solution and that is the Rama says that you could bring it a day or two before which is bishop says it means a minute or two before it means as long as you put it in an it has a designated spot you would be able to we'll see in the says the further [Music] you don't bring it to someone to lane with 10 for the s to bring it What about to bring it in our says it's pash it's user okay the people should come to it says that's only if there aren't 10 if you have 10 people in prison. You could What about if there's no heat in the shaw or no air conditioning in the shaw? Could you bring the safety to a house for people to lane? Yes, they're inus. The whole sra is an inus. The temperature does not allow them to lane in the shaw. But I think that's not what we're saying. But what if you have a seabboard in their sh and they say we want to lane it in our shaw. We're just more comfortable, you know, in our sh cuz we have pitmakus on a cloth on the wall. Say that's very nice, but please come head over to our shaw. We can't bring you the safety. What about the said no? And that which a minion they go out of the to some house and they bring the to read it there. It's not the right thing. They could hear the leaning in There are those who are everybody once again these days. This is not a good enough reason. What do you mean? Everyone wants getyah. You want aliyah? Yeah. You really want aliyah? You got to pay for it. Anything you want in life, you have to pay for. You're causing the to lose out money. But what if they sell the then? If they're going to have a another auction in the side room, then you don't have to be The best thing is to set up the beforehand in a special and then it would be okay. Now that we're on the topic, we know you know how to move a satire into a different shul so that people could lane. You can't move a sorra. Let's say like this you have um you know like there's a sh in the neighborhood. They have an annex building where you basically literally have to leave the building and they have another building. Could you bring the safer tora to the people in the annex? No, you're not allowed to. The safety would have to be there before. But what about it to bring it from one room to another? The grass says you're not allowed to do it. The says you're not to bring the s. However, the I don't know what that is. and mhuda anything under one roof you could that's the opinion of the however says better to minimize the movement even from one room to another also says that if you have different rooms in the shul and one room one a room is up to laning it's better for them to wait till the first minion finished laning so that they could go into that room rather than to bring the from the first room to the other. Ira is greater than lots of luck pulling that off, but that's what the is. Okay, this is very important. A day or two before It doesn't have to be the savior was there for a day or two. As long as you prepared a spot for the sav on that day and then the sav will remain there for a day or two that is also okay. If I'm not mistaken, the does bring down this thing to lane from it three times. But as as you see from the he does not mention that idea anywhere. And said it's one of the things that people have a misconception about. Now, even if it's not going to be there a day or two before and it's going to be there a little bit before and it's going to be there a day or two after, but it needs to rest there a bit before this and then at the time you take it out. and you put it back cuz then it's not so blatant that you just took it for the for the laning. The key is it does not look nice if all of a sudden for the laning is whisked into the mine. It was just put there it was for some time. What about to bring a safer tora to a shul on somera? That is there are differences of opinion about that. What about to bring a safer Tory to for a minion of a during the Ramos says that's because since all the relatives want to get aliyah on the day of the and in the sh it's going to be it's considered a also the so he's like but the disagrees. Could you bring a safar to a room that they're saying so that form and you could open the car says yes could you take outra to greet a new coming to the Abu says Yes. Rasharim says no not outside. Rabbi Yash says not outside. I many people do it. Hopefully they do other things that are correct. What about to take out a for a king? What about to take a s for the king? The brings what does it mean? Says it's better two days one day. In other words, what's this expression? A day or two. Which one? The answer is it's better two and if you can't one. This is it's not an idiom. It's aic phrase means better two days. If you can one day is sufficient there's this to read three times says it has no basis however like we mentioned brings it down and he says the rationale is by reading from it three times it's like you you move for Mosha concurs with the the not like the to read from it three times says since people say it over even though it's not brought in if you're not mbid on three times it's a it's a for so even though the mishab is very lenient here the mishabra says all you need to do is set aside a place beforehand and after a a day or two before, a day or two after Mosha and Rabash say that even though there's no basis for the three times, but if that's the practice, not according yourself with that practice would be in the cupboard of the safety with the exception being an >> three times. >> Again, according to the mission brewer, you don't need three times. Um, you want to know would Rabbi Yash say that? Well, normally in a week you're saying you have the Monday, Thursday and uh you mean let's say it's like before Yamiff and you don't have look you could definitely be on the mission says you don't need three times and it's not it's not I would say also that there's a general of three times but I don't think in a case of anal who would not have three lanings that the minhug would be to be three times okay Um a little bit more if the person theor is elevated through great people it's not someone who's even if he's not in jail even if he's not sick it would be permitted some are just it would have to be in conjunction with um in other words the says we are not we don't bring a satara to to someone in jail the says to an if it's permitted the sh is that only if he's sick or in jail the says it's correct to prepare a place the is even if you don't prepare a place. Okay, we'll hold it here.