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Monsey Daf Yomi at 18 Forshay Live Shechita Chicken Demonstration
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Video from the event that took place at Scheiner's Shul in preparation for a new perek in Chullin
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Are you going to be Yeah, this one
>> really.
All right, he'll calm down in a minute.
>> Okay. All right. You remember what to
do?
>> Last time I made a trick.
>> Do you want to do it again or not?
>> No. Does anyone want to volunteer to
hold?
>> Okay. I heard you first.
>> Give my son. Give my son.
>> Oh, take the jacket.
>> I don't want to take it away.
Okay.
>> All right. There's going to be a lot
here. You hold like this. One one hand
like that. The other hand facing down
like this. And you stick it under. Grab
both of the wings down like that and
hold. [laughter]
Yes. Mika is very hard. Okay. So, this I
won't care to solo anyway because really
we're going to get to see on the goat
basm.
>> Okay.
>> Hopefully. All right. So, let's turn
this way. Right.
>> So, I hope you you should get two
anyway. But, um, now I checked this
already. Don't forget, I'm not going to
check it again because there's actually
a lot of schmutz and I don't want to
cause a piggy from checking. So, this
guy's got these gorgles in the way.
Hopefully, that won't cause us a
problem.
>> Okay, hold him up high. He's going to
kick once he gets cut, but just
feathers.
>> You would if I'm going to sh There
aren't feathers, but yeah, if there
feathers in the way she
Okay.
>> Okay. So, you want to make sure the dam
gets there
>> here. Someone hold this.
>> Put it out.
>> All right. Yeah. So, hold You can leave
the leave the wings. Just hold up
higher. Hold up higher. Let them flap.
Hold them flap. Okay.
Okay. So,
just going to
>> Nope. No. I was just checking that it
was good.
>> Okay. So, this also is called pirus. The
animal starts moving around with a lot
of after that means that it was not well
when it talks about a mu keness. Mr.
Kennes, it's proof that the animal is
Oh, good. We have a schmuta. Wow. Okay.
You see this? This is kind of rare. It
happens. It definitely happens, but it's
a little rare. And I guess this is
traos. Okay. This here, this is the
sheepo kova.
>> Yeah. Um, we're gonna see it a lot
better, but just try and try and
remember this because you won't see this
too often. The the chicken pulled out.
Sorry. Um,
>> yeah. So,
this over here, this is the voice box of
the root. I think it was a rooster of
the rooster. It pulled its own uh voice
box out. I don't know if it happened
before the or after the and
which means that's a suffic. So it's so
we're going to do but without if you
want you can you're more than welcome to
do it but uh maybe you want to save the
first time for braha anyway. What
>> this this animal is a this is the k and
the part that it ripped out it ripped
out its own ship kova. So,
>> where's the itself?
>> So, I I'll find the in a minute.
>> So,
>> so the the the Gamar is going to talk
about these things called the and the
sheep kova. Trying to remember all these
terms. All that's right here. This is in
in anatomy, it's called the voice box.
So, this this little slit right here is
the animal we're breathed out of. It
flaps like this when it wants to speak.
You're I don't know how it works
exactly, but your voice box, it looks
just like this. It's flaps like that.
And when you make different sounds like
P, it's this this little slit here
closing. And so this is all the way up.
This is the tippy top of the makumita.
The tabasa gadola is going to be right
below it. But if you see, it's supposed
to be connected all the way up here. And
from the strain of the or something like
that, it ripped it out. Now it's when
you when you sh for cabala, you have to
sh the rooster, which I again, I think
this is a rooster. Um, and it says
because schmuta is more mutsoy on a
rooster because they crow and their
their uh their voice box is, you know,
moves a lot. When you watch if you watch
them crow, you see this big bump in
their throat move like up and down like
a lot. So something like that happened
right now. And uh that's that's exactly
what this is. So um I want everybody to
see uh now. Yeah. So this is Trafa and
but let me just show you. I'm going to
>> what? Yeah, I think
>> I don't know.
Okay. So,
>> the wow, the skin is much slower.
>> Yeah, the Yeah, it fell out. Okay, I
need to get a knife and um open this up
a bit. It's got thick skin. Thick skin.
>> Maybe we'll take out the middle table.
You can move it up a bit. You'll be able
to walk up and down.
>> Okay. Um
>> All right. So, let me just do the key
here.
>> Are we moving inside or we're going to
stay out? But it's nice here, right?
Okay. So,
>> I just did it. Sorry.
>> Okay. So, it says
so the
ones who is supposed to be the one who
does the so um I'll cover the I should
do it. But if somebody it says the the
um is allowed to be somebody if they
were very hotter to do it. But I mean
it's not koi really. So I don't know if
anyone cares much. I'm sorry. I didn't
ask first. Okay. I'm just cleaning off
my hand. What?
>> It's a suffic.
You do not do a koi. Not even nothing.
It's It's not
>> actually. Okay. I'm going to put on this
glove just to keep my cut as sterile as
it can be at this point. Okay. Now, um
there's a utility belt hung up over
there. Can I have it, please?
>> Stay out of the opening gate. We rely on
>> We stay out of the open because you
you're not poisoning. Sure.
No, because right right no t are not m
they're not supposed to happen. Um you
know areas
so tos are not supposed to be happen and
therefore
so you don't assume something went wrong
unless you see something that went
wrong. For example here we saw something
that went very wrong.
>> So you take you usually make the bra.
Sure. Yeah. Which is why a lot of like
any any chicken you you would make a
brah on you make a brah on the which you
don't know that it's going to it might
be tra when it ends up um but if there
wasn't aa then you make the braha
actually happens to be if you have an
animal with a rasa that you think
there's a good side it might be tra you
you don't you without a braha then you
check that thata and if it turns out to
be kasha you make a braha afterwards
it's just like that a g can't make while
he's a [ __ ] it's only after he comes out
of the mikah so it's one of the few
times you make a
after the ma not overless. Okay, so we
started with this exciting thing. So I
think I'll open this up first.
>> There's another cut besides
>> there's one cut here. This is where I
did but the the the sheep boy kova
popped out um after it dislodged from
its own
um throat.
>> Okay. So please stay back and they'll
show everybody. You'll show
>> Okay. So
all right, I got feathers in the way.
Okay. So, what's the best way to do
this?
>> Okay. Let's see.
>> Okay. So,
so
>> okay. So, here we have at the bottom.
Um, yeah.
>> I'm
here. Everybody can see it.
>> Okay.
>> I'm just Let me figure out what I just
uh set up here.
>> Okay. So,
>> should I come on? Okay. So, here.
>> Just everyone try and get a good look.
It's kind of hard to see. Um, this here,
sorry, let me get him back out again.
This part is the top. He's, this part is
supposed to be attached to the chicken's
jaw. This is the part that ripped out of
his own jaw. So, it's supposed to be up
like this. This little tube here, I'll
walk around. That's the part I cut over
here where my pinky is. That's what I
cut.
>> That is the vet. And it's very also not
normal. You usually you have to go
through the k to get to the vet. Right.
Right. All right. No, I missed the ka.
It's somehow and because of the schmuta,
usually the vet sits behind the ka. So,
in order to get to the vet, this part
that's cut is the vet which sits behind
this. This white tube, this straw we're
going to talk about, if you can see the
little ribs in it, there's a tabos. This
is the k. The intact thing is the k. And
the tube over here
and the tube over here is the part I
cut, which usually I cut the k, but this
time I cut only the vet, which
technically would have been a kashita,
but
So the reason we'll look at on on him
they're too small. So
>> right. So if you see right so if you
look at this straw the intact white
straw over here the ribbed part those
are
all little rings on the on the goat.
We're going to open it up and you'll see
much better. So you get a much better
idea. These are so gadola. Again we're
going to do that on the goat. The
tabasola is all the way up here. Now one
more time. Again this was the part that
was supposed to be attached to his jaw
that ripped out. So this is where the
shipo kova is and the tbasa gdadola and
the kiten and that's what we're going to
talk about on the goat much better and
the vet a much harder thing to
understand what it looks like but the
vet also connects up to the jaw that's
where you swallow that's where all the
food goes down that the upper part is
called the turbuta and we're going to
look at it on the goat so this is the
chicken so while we're here in chicken
um the neck here this is the mafus and
we're you know the the different uh
kulas which are the vertebrae of the
spine of the neck inside is the spinal
cord which is the kashedra. I I really
all that I think we're gonna say for
him. Um but this is a really special
thing. So you guys just uh remember this
happened. Okay. So now what do we want
to know about a chicken? So in the
chicken the the key things that you need
to know that are different than an
animal is that it has two things right.
It has a corkabun which is one simmon of
something that's kusher. A kash of
kasher has a cork and niclapad that is
actually on the in the belly of the
chicken.
And in the belly of the chicken, it's
the stomach. It's the equivalent of a
stomach in a person. And on top of it,
they have something called a zephic,
which I'm opening up right now. And then
I'm going to show everybody. So the in
the garra, it says that the makumita,
the lower limit of where you can check,
right? You can check on the top as high
as wherever it goes.
And below each sim has its own lower
extremity. The lower extremity of where
you can sh the ka is up until the gaggo
shell zephic. The zec is a chicken or
animal land birds. They eat grain and
things like that and they store it in
this big pouch. It's called a zeic. It's
called a crap in English. And then it
slowly feeds from there down into its
stomach which is all the way down in the
in the chest in the rib in the rib cage.
So
>> the vase goes to the
>> right after the vase it goes to the
zeic. So this here looks like an egg.
These the insides this yellow stuff is
actually the the corn that it was
eating. But this bubble balloon maybe
I'll try and get it out a little better.
the the piple like
>> no no the the corkcaban's a pipic which
we're going to get to. This is not meat.
So pipics are delicious. I don't know if
anyone has them in their chicken soup,
but that's the cork which is a big
muscle. This is all the food that he's
eating that was storing it. It stays
here. I kind of mangled it. So you got a
better idea, but it's a big pouch. It's
a big pouch fleshed balloon.
>> What?
>> This is the zec.
And that's the cornos.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Except for the skin and the
>> Right. Right. Right. So
>> what? Okay. Fine. So, okay. So,
everybody's zeic. This is the one thing
you got to know that's different about a
bird. And then the other thing is the
cork. So, I'm going to open that up now.
>> What did the boy do?
Uh, talk about in a minute.
>> Okay.
Okay. So, all right. So, you open up the
animal here. And
so we're going to see this much better
in the goat, but I'm just going to pull
out the insides here. This is the whole
digestive system and everything else.
Uh, okay. Still moving.
>> No, no, that's that's me.
Oh, okay. Here you're encouraged again.
You're encouraged to touch. This is a
heart. This is a lathe. We're going to
see it on on the goat again. Also, this
is a rooster.
>> No.
>> Okay.
Okay.
>> Okay. So, if you see here all these
noodles, these are the intestines.
Um, this is what, you know, it should
look pretty self-explanatory here. And
they're different twists and turns.
There's a spot called the mechals
diverticulum that they check in modern
cautious with these young chickens to
make sure that it's a kusher thing. It's
>> kosher.
>> Uh, well, yeah. I don't know. I'd have
to look for it. It's pretty mangled.
It's usually It's almost always kosher.
This thing's the liver, but again, I'm
going to save that for the goat. So,
here, this here is what would be the
stomach
>> would be the stomach of the animal. So,
it goes the stomach leads into the small
intestine. You first digest in your
stomach, then you pass it into your
small intestines. It travels through,
gets digested, and then it gets passed
out. No, this is cork. Hey, look at cork
right here.
>> This is a big, very strong muscle, which
is why it's only good in soup. Muscles
are very tough and rubbery. You have to
boil them for a long, long time before
they taste any good. So, this is the
probably one of the strongest muscles in
the chicken's body. Uh, so you have to
boil it for a long time and that's why
it's only good in soup. So, the these
over here, these two little J's, these
are two dead ends. Really, the this the
intestinal system should go straight
from your stomach, start wiggling around
for a while, and then go out the other
end. These two here, these noodles,
these jays, they come to a dead end over
here. So, this is right before the end
of the of the line in the digestive
system. This is called the SA DB. And
there too
he says si means
hates and di a bear the bears hate it.
So on a big animal and on these things
this is the part that even a bear
wouldn't eat when they're scavenging and
eating an animal because this is where
all the soa is being stored right before
it's being passed out of the animal.
Okay. So what we're here for though is
the corkaban.
>> Yeah. So the corkaban like we said it's
a big muscle. Now one of the simash of
anor it has a corkanad.
What that means is on the inside of the
corkabun there is a crumb that you can
be that you can peel nic. So this is all
the stomach contents and there's there's
this yellowy thing over here. This is a
crumb.
>> Hands are all wet. Uhoh.
>> What?
>> No, no, no, no. This is just to show
that it's a minusher.
If I can get it off. Uh, okay. So, Gumar
talks about sometimes you might have a
stubborn cork bun and you have to leave
it out in the sun and whatever. And if
it comes off eventually Oh, yeah. One
sec.
>> What?
>> Yeah. And it digests it. So, I'm having
trouble with this guy for some reason.
But look. So, this peels off
and this one's stuck on real good, but
usually it peels off as one beautiful
sheet and the whole part under it.
That's too bad. Okay. On the on the meat
chickens, this is a farm chicken. On the
meat chickens, they're much they're
here. So, you can see it peels a little
better. So, this is called nicolaf biad.
And that's how you know that this is a
min that's a kusher of o or one of the
simum. So this this little membrane here
peels on a on a on a of tame. It doesn't
do that. Okay. Fine. So that cork
nicapia. Now it's gonna talk about
traos. If a a pin or something punctures
it, it has to go through the buser and
through the crumb in order for the
corkabon to be a traa. Okay. I guess
that's it for the chicken. Um yeah. Oh.
Oh, sorry. Yeah. Please touch. Pass
around.
>> Yeah. So where did um
>> how much do you want of it?
>> Oh, so one other thing that that's to
know is the lungs of a chicken work a
little bit differently. We don't check
>> the
>> the the lungs of chickens
>> in Ara. They do like a sort of check for
something different, but it's not in the
same sense that we do vikosa nowadays
because they the lungs of the chickens
are actually in the in the back of the
ribs in the in their back. They're
they're stuck and pasted onto the rib
cage. So you can't even be bodicated in
an animal and a person. They're hanging
out in in the person's chest cavity. And
you can reach in and you can feel the
whole heif of the of the lungs. But on
birds, you don't have that case. You
actually have to peel them away from the
rib the rib cage that they're in.
>> And I hope I can get one out intact
because sometimes when you peel it, you
smush it up.
[laughter]
Okay,
>> this is a lung. Pink,
>> not red, not like meat. Here, take pass
around. This is a lung of a chicken.
>> That looks like liver.
>> Yeah, that's the liver.
>> Yeah, that's the heart. That's the
liver.
>> Liver.
>> Yeah. There's all There's not much space
in there. So, all the stuff The liver is
right next to the heart. Oh,
>> the liver on top of each other. Okay,
that's one long maybe.
Get out the other guy.
>> The chicken everybody knew
in Europe of saying everybody.
>> Yeah, they checked their own chickens.
>> Where's the chicken?
>> We'll get to on another thing. They're
the veins in the here. Look.
>> What is that?
>> That's another lung. It's important to
note the color of it. It's not red like
meat. It's pinkish.
>> So they check the lungs on the chicken.
>> No, no, no. You don't need to cuz it's
it's not Yeah. Ofos. Ofos are much less
matzoy to have any sort of uh traos and
dacos are then the next on the line and
then on the top of it is the
>> you just you just want just the kind of
>> Okay.
>> So the the the the bas is the gang
>> the the
>> what's the gang?
>> The gorgal is the neck.
>> No this this Yeah. The whole fractus
here.
>> Yes.
Okay.
And there you go. That is one entire cut
all the way to the lung. Okay. So now
goat.
>> What is this?
>> Okay. Move the sitter.
>> Okay. So now we're going to look at the
simum for real.
Okay.
>> Um,
this works.
>> Okay. So,
>> all right. So, really,
>> so this this would the way
>> Yeah. If I would have done like under
that's getta. If I stick the knife under
like this. Okay. So I want to cut out
the simmonum. So if we were in the on
the farm and we're trying to eat what we
do right away, it would be badika. But
I'm going to save that for the end cuz
going to leave everything as intact as I
can. All right. Who wants to help hold
it on its back?
Come, come, come.
>> Anyone? I need a second pair of hands.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, right now I'm cutting out the simum
all together with the tongue so we can
get a good idea. This is the part we all
want to pay attention to.
You're welcome.
>> Okay.