Take 2 with Maury Litwak

[Music] welcome back to mishpacha's take two where you get to meet the personalities the names and the faces familiar to you from the magazine in real life today's guest maury litwek is very special besides the fact that he's appeared in a mashbach cover so much of his activity and so much of the scope of what he does every day appears in various ways in the magazine every week because so much of what he's involved in is the stuff we're involved in it's a pleasure to welcome warrior so excited to be here shirley this is a real treat it is very exciting for me to be honest yeah it is from the pages of misha into the screen tv is very special i have so many questions so let's get into it tell me tell me who are you what do you do uh my name is mori litwack i'm the executive director of an organization called the teach coalition which is a project of the orthodox union and i'm very very proud to really represent the cloud when it comes to government affairs and really with the focus has been on trying to get funding and aid to the yeshivas so that's the my bread and butter my passion that comes from growing up with knowing and realizing the struggle that my parents had with paying tuition uh having four kids myself and realizing that struggle with my uh uh my own pocket i have so many questions you're a guy who raised hundreds of millions of dollars i wouldn't say raised hundreds of million dollars have come through your efforts to achieve this over the last few years i would say i would say that to over 500 million dollars we're very very proud of that yeah but doesn't really affect anybody's tuition i'm paying the same tuition i always paid so how does that change anybody's tuition the yeshiva may be getting more maybe getting less no period is getting a break because you shiva got funding i i think it depends it depends for example in florida their funding goes through scholarship funds in pennsylvania it goes through scholarship funds in pennsylvania one out of every four kids is on scholarship in florida uh it's a very high it's higher than that now it's in new york you live in sydney so exactly in new york and new jersey it hasn't reached the pocketbook of the parents yet now you can say if you if you're getting special services if you're um getting technology funding or security funding it is impacting your children and that's cost that you're not paying which is a big deal but i agree with you i think it's not impacting the the the way it should be but we believe we will and we believe it will because america is the only country with a tuition crisis the other countries don't have a tuition crisis because they're funding it the funding those non-public schools through government funding this canada account of the country canada depending on where you are in canada some yes some better than others okay i hear you um okay so you're saying in theory first of all that's an important point you're making already which is this should you're saying that in two years from now yeshiva parents will be paying less worse than they are now i think that i can't promise yeshiva parents to pay less than they are now because ultimately what i can say is every single yeshiva parent should have the choice of where they want to send their child to if a yoshi the reason i can't promise it is because many parents want a yeshiva that has all these bells and whistles many parents want a a i'll give you an example of this people in teaneck for example complain about uh tuition so i said tuition cheaper in queens or tuition's cheaper in lakewood well i don't want lakewood liquid that's not historically what i want or people like would complain to me about it and i say well you can go over here for a different school at the end of the day every parent should be able to send their child to every issue any school they want and at an affordable price but right now i think what's happening is is that either we have issues issues in communities like lakewood where there aren't enough schools there aren't enough resources even or we have in institutions in teaneck and other places where the tuition is through the roof the tuition modern orthodox system is way higher than it is almost double yeah because they invest in a secular study many times the special services are are significantly higher uh and i think that they invest in in parts of the secular education um maybe the classroom from a classroom perspective but again like let's look at let's look at the five towns this is the five towns in far rockaway so five times the far rock away has yeshivish has modern orthodox has everything tuition is more than it is in lakewood and other places so i think again geographically you go out of town and tuition is higher than it is in places certain places in town right so at the end of the day tuition is is high everywhere that's your goal that's what motivates you when you wake up in the morning to bring down tuition and help your shivers what motivates me is to to i believe fundamentally speaking that we have to pro to tilt the needle in such a significant way that people can open up a school and know that a third of it or 50 of it can be covered by government funding or that a current yeshiva knows that there's a point in which government funding is going to exceed the fundraising uh so let me ask you another question you look around at the world of the climate of america and elsewhere this is essentially a right-wing republican type of cause private schools you see the direction that this country is going you know that there's going to be more and more left-wing politicians and more and more left-wing agenda being pushed what does that spell for you why are you even bothering i'm glad you asked that question it's funny by the way when we were starting this operation people said to me go to florida i grew up in ohio go to red states go and that's where you you're needed maury um and in those red states and i was super excited about doing new york and new jersey because 75 80 percent of the yeshiva world lives in new york and new jersey so i'm from out of town i appreciate out of town but practically speaking if you want to solve this crisis you got to stay in town and do that to solve it for 75 80 percent of the people in order to do that you have to deal with left-wing politicians you have to deal with democrats but remarkably speaking we've had a lot of success in new york there was i'll tell you why because because i'm going to talk about the success first and i'll tell you why in new york and new jersey we figured out ways to pay for the moderate hole in both of these states in new york yeshivas are getting reimbursed for the cost of their science technology engineering and math teachers science teacher math teacher not fully reimbursed but yeshiva's now you have they're getting 200 400 500 000 we own a trajectory where this will get paid for by the state and they're getting paid at the rates that the public because you're presented because it's just because it's not being presented as is vouchers don't work in in blue states they don't work vouchers work in red states very well but they don't work in blue states because you a have teachers union which are extraordinarily powerful in those states and b you have a perspective what it's wrong but you have a perspective that we don't want to do this this gimme or give away to the um the non-public schools and we change that perspective something i'm extremely proud of most of the people championing our legislation in new york and new jersey um let's just talk let's take new york for example you look at the champions we had in new york and we had left-wing democrats supporting stem funding because we built a coalition we weren't antagonistic towards a teacher's unit it's a completely different playbook so i think yes if you're using the same playbook you're going to go use in give me an idea of what you mean a different player but give me one practical example if you're doing school choice politics in alabama you're going to say we want vouchers or bus you're going to say that this is us versus the teachers union if you're doing this in new york you cannot be a gr you cannot be saying it's us versus teachers union what you're saying you have to be making arguments that are about um coalition building which we've done which is the catholic community the islamic community other communities besides for just the firm community and you have to be doing it in a way where it's not about just vouchers but it's about a myriad of services security technology nursing and now stem so that you can hit this from a thousand different angles and and i think that that's what has created and led to our success so far in the blue states that's your question yeah you're a very bright guy and you're one of the i really i've spoken to you many times over the years and reached out to you for help and things and your understanding of this part's staying in the interview right i mean i need as far for in love i'm a bunch of people okay um with in-laws it probably won't help but with other people maybe why would you choose to give your life to i don't know how much you got paid and if it's livable enough to pay tuition and teenage four kids but you could be doing a lot of things with with your contacts and with your brains and with your understanding you could be lobbying you could be the other thing why are you staying in cloud life so there's two separate pieces to it so i think fundamentally speaking you're a talented guy i appreciate it i think no no sorry i just want to say one thing i'm sorry i don't want to get in trouble a lot of people in cloud life are talented people but they have reasons to do it i don't mean to say why in cloud life if you're talented i mean what motivates you i know what motivates them what what why do you do this i think that the the someone once told me who worked for michael bloomberg the reason why michael bloomberg became mayor of new york was because he realized that with government he could provide more resources and more help than he ever could by writing a check and we're talking about one of the richest people to ever live similarly um we joke sometimes and our staff jokes about this but but in a lot of cases we are one of the biggest contributors or donors to a yeshiva or to a community that's that's big time that you can do big time things much bigger than if i was running a successful business and able to write a check and so i like that i think that that's winning and i think that that's great the other piece of this is that i fundamentally think that our community there's so many gear him there's so many people who want to change who who want to make money appear want to provide to the community but then when they come to cloud work and they want to do things they want to reach ideas they're frustrated because they can't get the idea off the ground i believe fundamentally to treat cloud work like a business and you could be successful and to me i measure my success the same way i would running a business am i winning am i am i doing it in a way where it's it's a good cost benefit analysis for the community and if i'm not if i'm simply around and i i'm i always worry that i'm going to be on one of these fundraising campaigns where it's like maury needs money and someone's like shrugging when they when they pick up the phone that's the last thing i want to do and if you're treating it like you would a business where you admit to people we've had failures we've had successes then i think that that's how cloud works should be run now i've heard from others who do similar things to you or have done it that it used to be easier in a way that means there was a time i would say 25 years ago there was the asking or the stodlin it was a good or the oh you or another organization they came and said this is who we're voting for gentlemen and everyone said okay more we know his best or whoever it is they weren't charged they told us who to vote for good it didn't formally endorse i don't think oh you either formally endorses but more or less the message was sent of by whoever did that and now there's so many within our own community i wouldn't say competing interests but people have different values there's some people who will never vote for a left-wing politician on religious grounds there are some people who will say they're the politicians basketball community vis-a-vis or whatever it is a does it frustrate you that that you can't just have that power over delivering a voting block like it used to be and b is what are your perspective on who's best for our community somebody who is morally uh compatible with us somebody who's practically compatible even if their own morals are dubious two different questions questions so i i think that it the we stand on the shoulders of giants we really do there's a lot of people who uh rabbi share everybody newbergers i mean a lot of these people who who anybody who's involved in the business of politics just there's so many people you were you were who were really fundamental to this i think that our work reflects the times and i think that no politician would expect our community to vote in unison anymore no politics would accept our community to be in in sort of uniformity but at the same time what they would expect is if you want to counter the twitter politician the ones who spend all their time on on social media the ones who create this fervor but then don't ever show up for votes i mean there's politicians who have five six million uh followers who don't vote or have never passed a bill so if you want to counter that we have to show that we're a movement and like other movements in the like other movements in america they don't all they don't speak or think in uniform ways when we talk about other communities and other votes whether you're talking about hispanic community talking about the african-american community they don't vote in uniformity they don't vote for politicians uniformity but at the same time they're viewed on key issues as having um having uh um real passion about so i think that if if yes it's a bigger challenge but i think that from um if we start to build not just around air just roll but we build around voting issues like education like security like not messing with the community like politicians not not um attacking the community with impunity i think those are the types of things that that i do believe that that um will make the the oscars job a lot easier if there's a movement behind everything do you deliver a voting block to politicians looking to say oh more i can deliver the votes no but politicians look at me and say i can make introductions in the community that are pivotal and critical to the work that they do and i think that that that if i'm one person and one person doesn't do it anymore not just in from 20 years ago in the from community but in politics it's not as powerful as it may be like an al sharpton is one of those people who perceive like that but very few people can even do that anymore i don't think al sharpton can even do it right i noticed one day you changed your title you went from being maybe chief of staff of the orthodox union to teach was that a strategic thing to leave the ou off the label again about because of politics to make it broader to make it more more focused on education what was that about it was it was there's a new leadership within the ou and i was doing that position just for temporarily like basically for a year or so i was doing it so you're no longer doing that position you're still with the oh you just focus on education yes issues yeah on the education issues now what's it like for you we we're in magazine and we don't label jesus and all jews are holy and we don't by the way now i'm if my in-laws our family find out that i'm no longer chief of staff at the o.u i'm in big trouble so they don't know that either if not for the ou i wouldn't be able to do anything i do right they're very proud of you too as they should be the we don't label anybody there's no types of juice we don't check anybody's titties that said you live in teaneck and you're identified on a personal level with the modern orthodox community let's say i don't know if your shoes show up on camera but if anybody saw your shoes they would know that clearly at the same time you work you represent the kasi district community and you represent the achievement community what's first of all tell me about your alliances with it with the right-wing karate world which which are many and deep you don't have to say names i know you work very closely let me tell you say something first off that the i so i grew up um in the yeshiva community i grew up wearing a black hat i grew up going to ushiva i went to mosedos i i went to um moses in cleveland i went to hebrew academy cleveland also i learned in yeshiva greater washington i i grew up i grew up yeshivish and i think that that's something that i'm very very lucky because yes i would identify myself as a modern orthodox i'm married to a spartac woman so i i feel a smart woman who who is a first generation israeli so i feel very very fortunate because i have at least three viewpoints i believe in my life that i see myself on the one i don't have is being classitish and that one is i actually think that i do extremely well with the fiduciary community because i walk in every time i do a meeting and i say my last name is lit fox i'm not trying to be a blessing and you want to work with me you want to work with me at the end of the day people have to see af after the muncie attacks i'll never forget being in in the the the horrible nice knife stabbing in muncie i'll never forget watching a basketball game my son was in where the very moderator's crowd and tina can angle it and i'll never forget kids walking around bringing um like like bracelets they were selling to support the muncie you know something in the muncie tragedy and then i was at north shore academy um which was a modern orthodox institution and i was there recently and they were telling me they had a cyber security attack and they were telling me how a yeshiva school came to their school in the front and was i don't know if it was they were they were they were singing or they made a celebration for the kids or something like that when the chips are down jews are jews and it's just absolutely that's the totally different question i'm not asking about us and i know that but but that is making my life easier to do it so how do i do it how do i operate within those i'm asking something i'm saying uh you're a college educated fellow yes um at the same time i'm sure that at the highest levels of government you get pushed back about yeshivas and the general education and then the efforts made to undermine the candidate and you have to defend the achievers how are you able to put your heart into a cause that live daca that you don't completely believe in you probably think that they should upgrade their things and you went to college and at the same time you're defending satmar and saying they have their right you need to have the passion of assassin and you're not assam akasa my question is how do you how are you able to defend it eloquently and patiently if your heart is not unless i'm wrong maybe your heart you believe is it because you don't want the government mixing in like how do you defend that cause and i know that you're a defender right so i i first off the opponents of that clause have made it extremely easy because and i'll put this on the record which is and i've said this many times to politicians and others is that you see and notice in their rhetoric that it's not about the education issue it's it's about shaming and naming the facition world and and and that becomes a very dangerous game for the firm world in general because once you start with that it never ends so the objective is not simply about education and the facilitation world it's it's it's it's about embarrassing and showing exposing light in a negative as if like a primitive right correct accept that argument no they don't no your argument oh my this is that that the opponents are doing that every politicians that i've spoken to about this i think fall into two camps there's people who who sight unseen believe the narrative without going into the actual yeshivas and i think that there's other politicians who who have taken the time to to get to know the citizen communities or taking the time to know this and they know they if you go and you say here's my issue and these and and he and lay out the facts that's one thing if you go in and say here's my issue these people are horrible people and let me give you a litany of why they're horrible people i think you're exposing your own prejudices and this those those involve this cause i think have a long history of doing that i think that the the it is impossible for me to give the viewpoint of a bells cluster than lakewood or a a um someone in the soccer community or or what's going on with the bub of camp in pennsylvania i cannot do that it's not going to happen just similarly as i can't figure out how to represent properly the boca raton modern orthodox community what's going on there i believe that the role of a national organization this is what's been i've been taught by people like mosh bane who in the ou and other people i look up to which is a national organization's role and responsibility is to partner with local organizations an organization like the orthodox union has to partner with local communities and when we do public policy or we're working with communities you must have conversations but i always extend to people they have to be those representative voices as well and show what what's happening with a small 200 person community in lake bell's community in lakewood or what's happening with bubba in pennsylvania or things like that i'm limited to that anybody who tells you in cloud work that they can represent and speak on behalf of every community they understand each of the issues is completely lying to you every community is different there's 40 different strains of modern orthodoxy there's how many strains of the yeshevish world so it's it's it's impossible to do that the goal though is to get as close as you can to that by showing this is what i have to offer this is what i need from you partnership but you have a lot of personal relations with politicians on the ground as well yes as well i should mention that viewers an uncanny ability for picking election results ahead of time i don't know if you ever took it to the betting game but you're good we've had conversations and you usually call it right the uh let's use an example the new york city mayoral election right now there's two very very dynamic hysteric groups supporting opposite candidates right you know you have a big endorsement freeing that came from one constitutional community another one for adams i believe they came from another does that serve anybody is that well first of all i think we've got to have hats off to anybody who's not in the fiscal world or if you're not part of those groups in brooklyn the fact that the mayoral candidates at least three or four of the mayoral candidates have as their jewish representative of hasidisha rep is insane that is a hats off to the facial world for being so politically active it's just it's amazing any anybody in particular that you credit so for i i think that there's a lot of um there's just a lot of work and responsibility to get on these um the local district level and to take the time of politics people come to me all the time and say how do i get to know congressman so-and-so or president so and so you start by getting on like a republican committee or democrat committee locally and you work your way up the constitutional world is is extraordinarily talented it's starting from an absolutely nothing and building into multi-billion dollar business i think they're doing the same thing in politics they're starting very small becoming district leaders building things up and becoming forces to be reckoned with so i i think that the what's happening there's two leading mayoral candidates right now andrew yang and eric adams who's the one on the record on the record he's going to win i can't you can't do it i can't do it okay i can't do it but the the the two leaning candidates are eric i think i know what you think now it's healing or eric adams andrew yang these candidates have expressed multiple times their positions on the on in on youtube education multiplies their position on a bunch of different issues that's great that's a dream right you see that there's okay in new york city the the hasidic whether you call it a block or you find that anti-semitic the fact is that the community holds sway they they are they're engaged voters right but you see that they're really working hard to right and it's i think it's very good for politics that in brooklyn they're all fighting over whether endorsements are real or not or whose endorsements that's good that's politics that literally happens all the time in america the fact that they're doing this you see the whole thing that's positive people are engaged whether or not bubba and mankato agree doesn't really make a difference you're just proud of the fact that people are engaged 100 every community in the country should should model this and okay but what would you advise somebody who's in uh see in new york even though you've got left-wing politicians a lot of leading politicians or progressive politicians that we have enough of a voting bloc or you know there's enough numbers to justify their time i live in montreal let's say which is extremely left-leaning and the politicians are progressive and we don't even have the numbers so what what could somebody do there your orthodox jew you care about the orthodox causes you care about the tyra but you really have no no nothing to offer i think it's people have to or in america if you're living in a democratic state and you don't have the numbers right so politicians care about one thing i don't know an example of that yeah go ahead they only care about getting elected that's all they care about there's only three ways a politician can get elected they get elected by by having the votes to get re-elected they get elected by raising money that helps them fund their campaigns he elected or they get elected by having a good issue that gets them re-elected so any constituency any group in in the history of politics looks themselves and says which of those three things that do i possess uh in order to engage with a politician or someone running for office i think when you're in a smaller community you have to have a good issue uh give me an example i think if if if security is your issue don't be naive and say with a 200 person stable you're going to be able to tackle security on the issue go speak to the the the other faith groups in your local area and see if you can get people together if you find an issue that brings you together with others and and and find an issue that brings you together with others don't underestimate your actual voice because your voice may you may actually be good at it so a slowly is much going to be much better at doing this than someone who's never had talked for a living or talked to anybody so you have to actually know have something to say and uh and have a good constant issue don't walk in the door and basically say i've got 200 jews here i've got a bishop so and so i've got imam so and so and we we need 50 million dollars for such start start with something like know what you're doing and it's very similar to anything else in cloud work you want to get a shul started you want to get a myth for built you want to do anything else like that you start small and build the seeds it's not that complicated but but i think people are underestimating their voice if they start to collaborate with other groups but i'm i'm hearing from you something else which is that a politician who's a progressive politician whose personal choices in his own lifestyle where the things he support don't reflect our values isn't a problem per se as long as he's on a political level delivering the the causes that we hold there so i think others disagree with that no right so i i think look i think that the the a lot of for questions yes there's another question and a lot of thought goes into when we're taking policy positions and who we're aligning with us a lot of thought goes into that and we asked a lot of people about that so obviously i have the i have our horoscopic opinion that we asked you has a do you ever obey more people you speak to or consult with directions so i speak to we speak to rabbi howard in the ou and then historically speaking i've spoken to other people depending on the issue is there a politician in america currently that you look at you said that politician be it a mayor senator governor and his constituency that's a role model of a relationship between the religious community the orthodox community and the politicians you say that that's that one's working great he's great i think governor murphy is like that i think that the that relationship has been very very good for the community i think that one has been you have an example of a progressive left politician who's been friendly to the community and understands the community i think so yeah i think i think that's one example of it i think the other another example of that on the right is you asked for just left or you asked for anything i'm asking in general that you say it can be done so you think governor murphy is an example of where a politician who respects his constituency is able to work with yeah i would look i would say that the the governor murphy is one i would say that governor sanchez is another one i think that the senate desantis i think on those on the right and left i think there's those are two examples where the community has done so do you see them as future presidential contenders i see governor desantis as a future presidential contender contender for sure i think with biden and kamala harris there i think it's a very hard path for governor murphy to see himself as the presidential contender right i mean he may be a president i interviewed him as you know last week you you helped me prepare and he said no it's not true he's never running others said of course he's running i think you i think any every politician dreams of the ultimate job really every policy if someone's running for county council or city council they're all dreaming of being met being uh president really everyone wants to be the goddess everybody wants to be the goddard outdoor so this is it for them for politics they're always thinking long 100 any politician telling you that otherwise is lying to you really they always have dream to that that's the ultimate that's the ultimate job and if you read do you think that santa is going to run against trump if trump comes back in 24 i think it's going to be very hard for desantis or for nikki haley or anybody else to run against trump i think if trump declares i think he's just gonna clear the field do you think he's gonna declare i don't know i believe trump will declare yeah do you think he'll win i think i should go on the record to say that more he told me the night before this year's election that trump wasn't gonna win and i know got him in trouble people didn't want to hear it but you said it early i think it's it's very hard to unseat a sitting president um but everything we've seen over the last eight years just puts it all up for grabs so i think that the certainly i think that the midterms are going to be a bloodlet i think the republicans are going to retake the house so that's that's what i i would think would happen based on i mean they've they have they need it i said on the show that you you call these things right don't make me look bad okay but look there's five there's five open seats uh i mean i mean they need five seats to win i believe there's 30 seats they're going after and and typically those midterms are a complete bloodbath historically so i think they probably will take over see the american people like to get that out of their systems in the midterms and then re-elect the president afterwards right and um it's very hard to see unseen a sitting president but what trump has done defies all the history of political campaigns there's no there's nothing like this before right no no we've never seen anything like this before so all that's off all bets are off i mean this is i used to say you know you could compare it maybe to like huey long's run from louisiana or you compared to like ross perot or you it to something like that but those guys lost we found the magazine a tremendous uh sophistication in terms of the readers in regards to politics over the last two years people really started to get politics they got into it like sports yes in the firm community is that do you find that yeah it's sports for people is it a blessing to you or the opposite it's horrible it's horrible because everyone thinks they know better it's it's not just that everyone thinks they know better it's it's that people become fans of the yankees okay people become fans of i'm a fan of the cleveland browns that's my team i only work for one team and that's all the cleveland misery i can take if you're really a fan of that football team you take the time and energy to know all the historical wins and things any real fan of the yankees can cite every victory every hall of fame or everything else like that why in politics don't you do the same thing why don't you take the time if you're a republican or democrat to learn about the history of your candidates going back pre-reconstruction going back to the to the wigs and everything else like that like take the time and energy to learn about the pilot wigs yeah you lost me it's it goes back prior to the uh you love the monster right yeah but you'll be wiggs w-h-i-g w-h-o-g yeah at the end of the day or the federalists or you're saying if close to the democratic thing and then get to work i have to learn about the wigs you should learn yeah i think the fundamental thing if you're in this to win it if you're in it to win it go learn do your history because if you learn history yes yes stop the wigs the wigs you should you should okay yeah you you you if you if you want to be if you want to be smart in this in this business do you think the politician himself knows about the wigs they can do themselves i think the average the politicians who are really at the best of their game know about everything that's ever happened they know about they know they know about um truman's trying to stop union busting even though he was a democrat okay trump certainly does not they know they know about lbj's senate senate uh first time election and how he was looking up what documentary documented as probably a stolen election like there's all these things yeah i mean you but you have to know these things because if you see these history and politics just repeats itself again and again and again people look at republicans and they love the republicans and they think it's basically the other side's wrong people look at the democrats they love democrats they think the other side is wrong but without the nuance or history of knowing that you've had presidential sides that have had positions on both sides again and again and again the only truth is is that whoever is in power makes decisions that impact our lives we've got to get to know both so that's it so you're saying that even though people are engaged they're really not that knowledgeable right in the natural community i think that a lot that people in our community if you're if you're spending your time on drug report or huffington post or you're spending your time on twitter following your favorite people uh your favorite media hosts are you listening to podcasts once a week you're knowledgeable you need to listen to both sides you need to read you need to get involved and do it is it just certainly cause people are watching this at home and they're thinking i really do want to get involved in the cloud i have extra time i have extra money i'm very interested in politics what could they do give me an easy stay at home do-it-yourself tip that they can do to really get engaged and help the water jewish community you should you should get active in voting in your community if you ask your community or you go to school after you watch this that's been your passion over the last 100 with success yeah i think we've had a lot of success on it the key to our success with if if you go to your community after this interview and you watch and you go and ask anybody kittish or anywhere else and say did you vote a third of them will say they voted some of them will say if you ask the question did you vote almost everyone will say yes if you say them did you vote in every election the last two years three years very few will say they did and the elections that are extremely important for for the community local communities are those local elections the state elections and things like that if people want to get involved in politics find out if your community is voting and if they're not voting either reach out to us reach out to the good of doing great work on it reach out to a lot of your groups who are doing great work on this ask how you can get involved with voting because what you'll find is that is that you can convince people to vote everybody can convince 10 people to vote everyone convinced 10 people to show up to vote we went into williamsburg we got a table we sat there and we registered within i think 48 hours 2 000 people to vote you went through this for yourself yeah no not my myself my team did you know this work yeah and they welcomed you i i want to i don't i want to represent myself as always doing the the you know with raining a little bit of the day i don't you know i i i'm i'm i'm on the mishpochah tv show i'm a star you know i can't you know it's true but the the the uh yes we they welcomed us we were totally fine with doing it we had volunteers and local community doing it with us because why weren't they that's not me taking over williamsburg or anything and i made a big difference you told me this year before the elections in new york state you saw that there was a difference you could track it in florida in florida uh one of the met the miami-dade county board seats was won by a hundred or so votes we literally are we're calling people reminding them if we've had we have if you the technologies out there now that a school or school can take the list put it through a database and pull out everybody who hasn't voted to this point you're amazing stuff we we should be voting so you want to get involved in it turbulently it works to your personal if somebody's watching this and they want to reach out to you personally they want to get involved if you want to reach out to me personally my email is m litwack teachcoalition.org so i guess i'll give my cell also you'll find that idea right first of all you know shouldn't give yourself your email is fine but oh for sure and if anybody wants to learn more about the wigs and this by the way this is this is i'm done i'm done with any baseline programs i'm done with any scholarly residence anything else i'm done because people are like that's the wig guy forget plays like you came into casana i'm walking out 100 percent i'm done i'm putting down my foot i'm out got to go mine that's it yeah thanks so much for coming in thank you pleasure to talk to you love it thanks for being here my pleasure thank you [Music] you