Mishna Berura Yomi Siman 11 Seif 4 How Long Do Tzitzis Need To Be

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay good morning everyone good to see everybody back we're continuing in mission brewing we're up to semen yet alex i believe we're up to sith dalit the length of the eight strings are not less than four thumbs now what does that mean the h strings you really you take four strings and you put it into the hole and then when you double it over it becomes eight strings so when they're coming out of the hole from the hole the length of each of these four strings that now become eight of each of the eight strings are not less than four thumbs now how big some people have very big thumbs some people have little thumbs we have to see how to measure them va is showing room some say name twelve thumbs they could be as long as you want you want it to be so long that it extends to your friend in los angeles not a problem it could be a there's no sheer how long they could be i think in the gemara in uh gittin by the gemara the corbin there was an individual by the name of ben sitsis he had very long titties so there's no sheer lamala haga it's really long and it's dragging you you can't even move the guy's mama she's he's carrying sitsis that sits his way 10 tons that's how long they are so they can't move so now you think if you cut them down cut them down to size it's going to be tas there's no soul in length let's see uh the mission baron they are about good an average person an average sized thumb now what's an average side you really have to take a pull you would have to take an extensive pull you know everybody stick out your thumb we're going to measure everyone's thumb and i don't know if we can measure it on the zoom screen you know i don't know if it gives an accurate uh area everybody write down i want you to measure your thumb maybe we should do that we have a minion everyone right i don't have the uh i don't have a ruler on me but everyone measure your thumb maybe the homework for tomorrow everyone measure them we'll see the what the median uh uh thumb width well mighty then i say about parakol you measure it by the top joint and the place where it's wide in the middle so in other words which part of the thumb presumably it means the top joint pericardium the top section where it's the widest part now it doesn't get at least in my thumb it doesn't get too much now or on the top but the the place that you measure it is in the uh the widest point in our broth you get at least seven barleys in a bowl and this way you could always have in mind the shear of the width of a guy down the hinbo okay so if that didn't help right in other words if you're not sure what a thumb is seven barley's vein but oira there's seven barleys put together tightly in length there are two barley's spaced seven barleys one outside on side of the other is in lengthwise two barleys in uh okay how much is that an exact measurement i don't have my dear show on me so it's either seven barley's uh one alongside the other or two in the lengthwise again to do um 12 thumbs now our strings are much much much longer one two three four five six our strings are longer not much much much longer but our strings are longer um the salesman they're not doing right that they uh they give you a very uh limited length of string but carbohydrates if you don't have 12 um if you don't have 12 thumbs worth it's going to be a brahmatolo or it's close to it 2.4 centimeters yeah we need ramosa they have ramosa gouda after the knot besides the corner and besides the nut you need 12 vietnamese so i'm going to measure quickly if i have 12 1 10 11 12. i definitely have 12. i don't have that much more than 12. at least my tits is my tallest is probably longer i probably didn't even uh i probably have about 14. that's my guess unless my thumb size is not uh is not representative but midrabono you need 12 after the knot now here's the question do you need 12 after the cash are going no the first knot or do we count the wrappings and the not that the mission brewer doesn't say because there's a lot of material and all the when all the wrappings and all the windings so mr brew doesn't say he says you start counting the 12 after the knot okay glasses excellent who's the re over here i knew this would happen i don't think i ever saw in my life the mission brewer quote the re but because we just came back from the reese's cover the rehazarkane was macbeth to uh i mean you tell me i'm not making this stuff i don't think i ever only and he'll see him kippur uh and even there we know the re kept two days in kippur but somebody do a search if the shibura ever quoted the re anyway the remade it much longer kadesh me possibly can you share by cashier now my synthesis comes with mamish every possible haksha saying i have a badass either haridas but it's not that much more than 12 sums unless we could count from the uh from the first not then it would be a lot more than 12 thumbs is the smooth part of the synthesis that's not woven so in other words you need a longer one to wrap around the part of the situation that's going straight down hagoveshir besides what's put on the corner of the vegas says mission it should be much longer let's say you don't have one that's much much longer to be able to do all the wrappings in other words if let's say they're basically all equal length so you're not gonna be able to do all the windings with one because then in the end that one is gonna be less than twelve guido so what you could do is you could alternate which one you do the rapping well you know the you first do seven then you do eight and then you do 11 then you do 13. so maybe the seven you'll do with one string and the eight you'll do with another and the eleven with another oh and some with the other another thing keep you say how could you do that well back in the day they would do that because when they had taylor some of them they would wrap with blue and some of them they would wrap with the white that's literally you need to remain in all the strings twelve gudalin after the krishna nakshira like rama says even this long one which started off being you really long after you do all the windings that one also needs to have twelve you goddamn to make sure that that one also has 12. okay let's finish the mission on this sith and then we'll we'll see some of the birhalakas tomorrow but the fourth bir al-aqsa says that it be david you don't have to imagine that the long string should be so long if after the first windings and tying it has 12 uh it has 12 sums i mean that was the question we discussed in other words how much has to how at what point does that have 12 thumbs after all the windings in the knot or after the first one so the verilaka says at least regarding the long long string which has to be really long if it's 12 after the first set of windings and the knot uh if it has 12 thumbs after that it's okay that definitely implies that the requirement of 12 thumbs is after all the windings and all the knots because it's a special kula by the really long one which is so so long okay we'll let it go if it's 12 after the first winding okay now let us see uh it's called i'm going to tell you that i don't think i was clear who's talking in the words is it the printer talking is it the mahabharata talking is it the rama talking [Music] because i at first i thought it was drama but then the the rama begins hada so i thought maybe it's not the rama but here the mishima was saying something that probably we should try to remember and that is this is the rama talking even though it doesn't say haga hago is when is qualifying arguing disagreeing but here he's he's like arashi haggadil he's defining what is the guido i mean that's at least the way that misha brew is reading it i'm sure everybody knew that but i was not borrower who me on the words you have that a lot you have that very often i don't think i saw a borrower that that is the rama talking okay and because of the knots that you make in the gadil it gets shortened by ezra you say you need now i don't understand something that not only shortens it one thumb you're making five knots isn't that more than one thumb is he talking about the final knot in other words what does the mishabura mean that um because of the knot that you make in the dill it shortens and you need another finger now you're making five knots and you're making seven eight eleven and thirteen windings that's gonna be a lot more than one thumb i would say that's gonna be five six seven eight nine thumbs weren't so the mishibara means the final the final knot the fight the final double knot unless he means all the knots without the windings i would assume he means the final uh because if you're including all the knots i think it has to be a lot more than 13 thumbs worth because all the knots together will be wider than uh one thumb but that's the bottom line that your string should be all the way string should be 12 thumbs wide okay great to see everybody and i will maybe try to see some of the birth tomorrow have a great day one second you've just experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com