Mishna Berura DH Siman 92 Seif 1 The Prohibition To Daven Even With A Slight Urge to Urinate

progress okay good morning friends sh we're continuing in miss this morning we begin Simon someone who needs to go to the bathroom someone has to take care of their needs the laws of washing for Ding and other preparations says if someone has to take care of their bodily needs if they do their is an Abomination not only he an Abomination so you say okay I'll hedge my bets but maybe it'll be accepted no you have to D again so you could have two guys one guy didn't Davin and the other guy did Davin and the guy who didn't DAV is ahead of the guy who did DAV why because the guy who did DAV shouldn't do because he had to use the bathroom the guy who didn't and did the right thing it says in prepare toward your God Israel guard your legs when you go to the house of Hashem I think that's in guard your orices your holes when you stand in prayer before me by the way that's whether it's G oranim not only gum or if you had to go to the bathroom and you DAV you have to DAV again now in our minds we think that's only for not necessarily true there are those who hold that if you had to urinate and you daved you also have to DAV again some say they say only for you have to go back not for if you have to urinate are those who argue Thea by the way they just found the the cover of the elaba they just found I think last week in Prague in the old cemeterian Prague anyway the holds if you had to do kitanim you got to go back what do we do the what do you do look the what's we don't know what to do we don't have the we don't have the strength to be by the way I would have thought the mugin of rum and maybe maybe no we don't have the that way why so now is taking the other way that the has you know Heavy Artillery on his side namely ch ch Cho if you look in the he brings many there the has support that even if you couldn't finish the you had to urinate so badly it started dripping out in the middle of the the that even if somebody it was so urgent that it started coming out you still don't have to go back to even if you knew from the beginning the bottom line is if you have to urinate you're not allowed to Davin which means basically before every want you go to the bathroom don't say I don't have to you're not 3 years old that's what little kids say you know you're going on a 5H hour trip make sure everybody goes before no I don't have to then 3 minutes in it's an urgent emergency it's urgent right you have to stop immediately by the coffee store down the block you can't there's not even time to go back home what same thing with daving okay you had your bar mitzvah you had you have you have a driver's license you're able to drink so that you should take responsibility before every you go to the bathroom before before don't say you don't have to go you're not allowed to DAV if you have to you might even have to go back and D again now we're going to see to what level urgency are we talking about but we already had in the M earlier even the slightest urge to urinate you're not allowed to D if you did D in then and you could have held it in you don't have to go back even for but if you have even the slightest urge you you're fine um you're on everything you don't eat gab well that's not in the what is in the if you have the slightest if you have the slightest urge you're not Dam now um it's been brought to my attention that when the says it means the is not the Rami poano well um you got to give me enough credit to know that the next lie the next words are is RA okay so the ra the first of course is the the second one is yeah okay so um that's only if you can hold it in the amount of time it takes to walk if you could hold it in 72 minutes but but at first don't DAV until you check yourself well don't say no I don't have to go you didn't check you didn't sort of stop for a moment and determine so you say I don't want a Miss minion yeah sorry this is not up to you whether you want to Mis Minion or not it's up to Hashem Hashem doesn't want you to be at the minion Hashem wants you to be in the bathroom sorry I'm being being so blunt but if you have any urge at all miss the minion and go to the bathroom someone has to go to the bathroom he's not even allowed to learn so long as your body is abhorent um with with excrement says that's an hour and a fifth 72 minutes now by the way you want to hear something amazing I did not know this remember the said we can't be between the and the says that if there's a you need to go back and Dav again even if you had to urinate and you couldn't hold it in 72 minutes if you need it to urinate and you can't hold it in 72 minutes and D anyway you go back and you make a that if I don't have to go back it's a I didn't know that I thought I thought you know no you need to go back in DAV you need to go back in DAV and if you didn't uh and you make a tonight okay [Applause] what if what if okay v um that's somebody who if you could contain it from the beginning of you could have waited 72 minutes what if right after the had run and do your needs and it was within this amount of time meaning like this let's say at the beginning of the you had the ability to wait 72 minutes by the time the doing is over no you realize you could not you really can't wait to 72 minutes because when you started you did it um with uh in good faith that you could have waited 72 minutes you're not allowed to even if you could hold it in let's say you could hold it in for three hours if you have even the slightest urge to go to the bathroom you can't dve in okay I want to reiterate this because I don't think people are aware of it if you have the slightest urge whether for G whether to defecate or to urinate you're not allowed to DAV what if by going to the bathroom now I'm going to miss minion you know what Miss minion means even if it me you're not going to start with the certainly if you're not going to miss the minion entirely it's better to D in with a clean body then to D with a minion can hold it Ines I don't care if you could hold it in three days you're a camel you could hold it in three days if you have the slightest urge you're not allowed to D in what does it say 72 minutes 72 minutes is if you can hold it in 72 minutes and you Dave in you have to Dave in again if let's say you let's say you could hold it in 72 minutes let's say you could hold it in 3 hours you're if you did then the she of 72 minutes is only if you didn't you didn't go to the bathroom whether you have to dve in again but even if you could hold it in you're still now yeah that's a very important but what if the man will pass now there were big Rebus that daved every day very very late in the morning because they were super m m on this um but we're about to see in the Mish that if you could hold it in 72 minutes even if you have an urge don't miss you can miss but not however if you see that by checking yourself the man now I want I want to explain what this means checking yourself means you go to the bathroom you go into the restroom and you see if you got to go that's what means why why do I think that's what it means because say if by checking you're going to miss this man what you mean checking I'm determining whether I have to go it takes a millisecond seems like it takes more than a millisecond so it doesn't just mean you think oh do I have to go to the bathroom or not it means you make you make an evaluation whether that evaluation is in the restroom I'm not sure but it does seem like the ideal course of action is before you DAV you should go to the bathroom so the bottom line is that if you can't hold it in 72 minutes you can dve in even if you're going to miss man if you could hold it in 72 minutes you're allowed to D if you're going to miss this man but you're not allowed to D if you're just going to miss minion because daving with a gof Naki is even more important than daving with a minion what about learning are you allowed to learn if you have to go to the bathroom what about going to a Shear the says it's m I was going to say there's a later on I see the brings it what if you need to be and you have to go to the bathroom could you be if you have to go to the bathroom it's a sh whether you could be enough you have to go to the bathroom or you need to go to the bathroom or or do we require you to go to the bathroom first what about you have to go to the bathroom and you hear thunder and lightning later on are you allowed to say if you have to go to the bathroom I would say of course that's why they were that's why there's no name of hem who doesn't have to go to the bathroom when they wake up in the morning yeah though says the sh is not really are you allowed to say is not really saying the question is by saying let's say you really you can't hold it in 72 minutes so should you say or or should you run to the bathroom it sounds says you'd be allow to but you're not supposed to learn if you have to go to the bathroom certainly you would not have to go back and do it again that you would not have to make the bra again so long as but you're not allowed to learn if your body is this is very important even if you don't have such a big urge that would be a violation meaning we're not even talking about where you can't hold it in 5 minutes but let's say you can't hold it in 72 minutes what if you could hold it in more than 72 minutes minutes so we know you're not but you are allowed to say and you are allowed to learn the that you're not allowed to the that um if you can't hold it in the that even more than 72 minutes you're not allowed to D in that's only for it does not apply to sh so if let's say you have an urge but you could hold it in 72 minutes you could say that and the that even if you could hold it in more than 72 minutes you're not allowed to learn it's interesting in Sim hey here this is very interesting in Simon V let's turn back for a moment Sim vat in the mishura the M Shu talks about a case where the quotes Sim oh there the brings down it's interesting that in only brings down the opinion of the sh Chua that you should be M even if you could hold yourself in for more than 72 minutes for kishma Andra here the Misha brings down an opinion a lenient opinion from the the that why earlier did the not bring down that opinion so Ki says that the Mish here brings down two opinions to understand that could be meaning when it comes to Kish or or there is a lenient opinion what if somebody's teaching T publicly or he's a and in the middle he has a very big urge for gum he could hold it in he he's allowed to continue giving the share why is only and because of the embarrassment of being in a public situation then uh that could be pushed aside meaning it's not because the the Mitzvah of T pushes away the Baku it's not because of the Mitzvah of Tam it's because of the public humiliation so somebody's he's middle of daving and uh it would be embarrassing for him to step out for good he would be allowed to continue [Music] um yeah one more second okay we'll hold it over here okay we'll continue be tomorrow in Sith base have a good day everyone