Mishna Berura DH Siman 53 Seif 22-23 the Tzibbur Paying the Chazan? Per Head or Per Economic Status

progress okay good morning everyone we're continuing we're up to that gets paid is better than if he does it for free the Mish explained because this way if he gets paid no one could step in and say I'll do it but once it's up to uh once the Tira leaves up to discretion then somebody might step in and there's no way to push him out there's no way to get him out anyway you're not paying him so it's a better policy for a sh to pay a b furthermore the says the will do a much better job that's the reality if you pay someone who'll do a better job because if you're not paying him he'll think okay they're not paying me anyway I won't so I won't be so careful with my voice two weeks before I won't get such a good night's sleep before or I won't practice as much why do I need to practice they're not paying me but if you get paid then a person says you know hey they're paying me I better be careful I better practice I better prepare so therefore it is a wrong practice for not to pay the B now what if you could get a guy to do it for free and then some of the T says no we don't want a guy to do we want someone better and we'll pay him and the poorer people say well fine but I'm not paying for it because we could let's let's use yan yan will do it for free you're allowed to force the to pay for the better okay so this is considered a need of the we're up to the no one's allowed to get up to the without the consent of the people anyone who DAV by pushing his you don't answer one should not fight for any Mitzvah no one should say I want now that I haven't seen yet but you should not fight for any mitzah the modest people they sort of take a step back and they don't grab from the the Gless people they grab so we see that when it comes to a mitvah a person should be more even when it comes to m a person should be more modest and take a step back if need be in order to avoid strife that's only if someone else will do theah but if it's not going to be performed like inviting guests or supporting and you have the ability to protest you're definitely obligated to protest in order to strengthen the because we force for these type of things we don't answer a guy who forces his way up there he's not making a blessing it's a provocation a provocator somebody who illicitly gains and makes a is disgusting to God in fact the gr says it's AER to answer aain a guy who sort of forces his way up you're not answer aain why because if he's doing without the consent of theor he's stealing and if you answer aain it's you're supporting you're supporting stealing right the same way the United States of America sends money to terrorists so they're supporting terrorists so too by answering aain to a guy who forces way up to theore you're supporting uh you're supporting um terrorism at the ammad so you can't support terrorism at the ammad okay and not the best analogy but uh that's the point okay [Music] V how do you pay the you pay it from the communal fund even though the is equally fulfilling a service both for the poor and the rich so you'd say why should you give it from the communal Koopa the Koopa is 90% from the wealthy and 10% from the poor if you're going to get from the Koopa it is not it's not equally representative of the money of the the poor man can't afford like the rich man has a um a compromised type of collection where it's 50% per person 50% based on economic status see the way the maab did it was totally based on economic status the maab said that's fair cuz you know that's what people could forward dama says no how how is that fair but the H is being sustained as equally as the ush so therefore we do some kind of compromise 50% per head 50% per Financial uh ability which by the way is a very good practice in general when you're dealing with shs where sometimes people say well let the people have more money pay pay for everything you know and that's the way uh the M looks at it and there's something to be said for that some people could afford some people can't afford the thing is the people who could afford sometimes resent that you know okay you know they have more money but that you know that's their mule and you know why do they have to suffer because they have more money so we tell them look truth is everyone's paying everyone's paying 50% everyone's paying poor Rich but you have more money so you know the other 50% more in other words there's a certain logic people who have more should pay more there's a certain logic everyone should pay equally so you sort of have to the way theama looks at it you got to balance both of those uh both of those ideas okay says so it's a because himself says like the says 50% Le your economics and 50% per person is different now what's the difference between and the changed his mind and he he goes like theama but the of the is there's a difference between a and aor what will the difference be sounds like a Kazan is like pavarti he has a you know he knows how to sing so the the D brings that the the Taza say you ever notice that rich people like Kos better than poor people why I don't know they have more time on their hands so they you know they need to do something so they say yeah we really enjoy kazas poor people they got to work so they don't you know they don't have they're not forced to enjoying Kos I don't know but uh for or maybe you'll say a nicer way to look at it is the rich people they enjoy the Finer Things in life however you want to do it I don't mean to be demeaning but um the botom line is enjoy that's the facts the wealthy enjoy the more so therefore but so therefore here we're talking about the says is based on oh I guess over here we're talking about aan so Kazan is based on economics and Sim let's take a look in Sim oh that's talking about something else that's talking about hiring people to make a minion you hear this that's what it's talking about it's not over there it's talking about if you're in an out of town community and you need to find a center so who pays for the center there the says it's a half why cuz there everybody needs a minion a rich guy needs a more than a poor guy the of the is collected based on economics sometimes the wealthy give more to the because he has a nicer voice also could go elsewhere therefore they make this um compromise so different than I was saying I was saying look there's a s that the wealthy should pay more than the poor why because they have more money and there's a everyone should pay equally no the mishab is not bringing any there's noar that a guy should pay more just because he has more money there's no s that we should go to Guy hey you know we're building a sh you have more money you should give more where does it say I have to give more that's not thear thear is according to this the wealthy enjoy Kus more than the poor the thing is there's got to be another s here why cuz we say the same thing by a minion and there by a minion we don't say that a wealthy person needs a minion more than a poor person although there we do say we could say the poor person let the poor guy go to a different city so even though it's not spelled out again we we were saying that there's some kind of logic you got more money you should pay more M here does not say that far in terms of why 50% is the economics but it seems like there must be a far like that because the same rationale app implies regarding a minion okay basically a poor person and a rich person gives equally and that's by headcount and in every household you pay Bas on the you got and that's based on how much money you have says if there's no set custom you collect based on [Music] economics why what does it say over there in by the way the Rama says that you hire based on only money so that's a that's interesting cuz here says and says it's totally here the says it's totally there's a we said that the would say here because the the rich person enjoys the more but why does the raama in would say it's totally for according to one's money so the says that the is there's no we're talking about it should be based on money and that's how learned so it sounds like the wealthy should pay more than the poor it's just a minog to Plate the rich so they should feel like other people are participating that we collect that's only for the high holy days cuz he a rich guy you can't say well you know what you don't want to pay go to another SH now he doesn't want to go he wants to be in his place so since he has to be there he's going to pay the poor could go to another city but the daily then it's going to be at least partially we don't do according to money alone so it seems like there are three different there's a there the ra says here it's 50/50 the says it's the says it's 5050 but there's a that should first of all the wealthy like the good voice better the wealthy can't go anywhere else if it's for a regular during the year it seems like we don't do LEF M alone it's also LEF when it comes to making a minion also we do partially LEF okay we'll hold it over here and we'll continue tomorrow in have a good day everyone have a good day