Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 89 Seif 3-4 Can You Eat Before Davening?

okay good morning everyone we're continuing middle of sim the M said that it is user to be engaged in any of one's business or to go on the road until he davs sh okay and one should not eat one should not drink water is mutter before daving WEA it's during the week or whether it's shabas and medicine or food or drink is we're middle and the Mish began by saying that water is not but the M said that's without sugar with sugar it's user certainly beer is user tea and coffee Miss BR said you're allowed to drink before ding in order to be able to f Focus especially in places where people are used to drinking them and one cannot have their mind at ease without them but that's the M BR says that's without sugar and without milk the does acknowledge the is to have it with sugar it could be that when the and the ra write that the biggest GAA is with sugar that's if you put the sugar in the tea but if you put a little bit in your mouth otherwise you can't drink it that's not considered GA bottom line is let's continue from the second wide line in the Miss to put the sugar in the tea or to have a little cake while you're drinking so as not to have the tea and coffee on empty stomach there is no side you could be lenient unless somebody's very weak and they need it so even though on Friday we did point out that according to the the one should not put sugar and milk into their coffee although we did say that many pum are lenient nevertheless if somebody is has a medical condition um on the other you know it's not necessarily the time to be a hero in other words somebody's diabetic and they need to eat before daving otherwise their Mish they have excessive weakness then then they're allowed to it's not even it's not even aola cuz for them it's not GAA it's not like they're not just making themselves comfortable they're alleviating a real situation if you're if you're going to eat before daving for Rua you should at least say the par of sh which is interesting are you saying all three Paras of sh it doesn't say to say all three Paras of sh he says the the says this is Mas this is not a and it sounds like it's enough by just saying the first para the also writes to at least say the first par but in he writes that it's not enough just to say the first of sh if you need to eat as long as you say and put Onin but otherwise you can't eat in other words other words if you want to have milk in your coffee no problem just put on your in and say sh first sham explains that you have to say there he's talking about actually eating so if you're actually going to eat in other words if somebody's really weak somebody's really weak and they're going to actually eat in other words they're going to eat breakfast they should put on their fill in and say all three Paras if you're just going to have a little piece of cake for because you're weak then you don't have to say all three pares just one and that's not required it's just T so it's very interesting so again the best situation is wake up in the morning have water or have black coffee then you don't have to do anything then you could just go to sh but if you're going to have let's say a person's very weak or let's say he knows the davening is so painfully long that the guy you're going to strangle the kazin you're going to take a you know a belt and now that that's not going to be a good thing we don't want you strangling the kazin in the uh sh it won't be good for the kazin it won't be good for the kazin's family kazin's family is expecting him to return home after the daving so in that case if the only way to do that is you can have a little piece of cake I'm talking about let's say during the week then you would put you would say three pares of sh I'm sorry you just need a little bit of cake just say the first par of sh if you're going to strangle the unless you eat breakfast or you can be really weak so you want breakfast breakfast you're going to have to put on and say three par of sh that's how learns in the brings if you're only having cake and then saying sh is only have then so that you could be with the seems like he holds that you should actually on some level with the recitation of that one para okay V in the you want to drink coffee not in the coffee room with the guys you can't drink in you know by the cooler because it's it's a and besides this another will Branch out from says reason why you can't involve yourself in your needs before ding so that you do not turn to any matter before you D you cannot get involved and delay in other matters before you die so if you're going to hang around with the guys while you're drinking the tea through the abundance of conversation it is likely you're going to end up of violating the manishma okay now water you could have during the week and shab know how you're only not allowed to drink water when this man comes here since you didn't come now this is if you're healthy and all you need is some water but what if you're a and you need to eat before doing says you would have to make K does a woman who wants to eat before her husband comes home have to make KES yeah shabas morning the husband comes home 12:00 the wife's starving she's been up with the kids since 7 a.m. does she have to make KES she doesn't have to to make a KES why because she's not supposed to eat her suda is when the husband comes home so it's not the suda yet so there there's no yeah but um better to tell your wife to make if your wife wants to eat better for her to make K fine after she you can't drink water because of even good food that ordinarily if you would eat it it would be arrogant you're doing it for health even though you're not a complete certainly you're allowed to drink before ding anybody know what har are some kind of I don't know some kind of medicinal liquid and an Elixir you could have met in other words you want to have a liquid uh antibiotic you're allowed to have that before daving are you allowed to take vitamins before daving says m Are you allowed to do exercise before ding R shinberg says if you can't do it after and why you doing it to to strengthen your your bones says you can't do it after ding you can do it before Ding and he says you don't even have to say sha first is AA says shinberg exercise is not AA are you allow to chew on licorice that you're not going to eat to this will minimize the amount of spitting you have to do during the ding back in the day spitting was a big Pastime people love to spit cough up fle expectorate there's a lot of stuff being brought up during the daving so if you need to chew on something to eliminate this uh but I don't think that's n anymore okay someone who's dehydrated very thirsty someone who's starving they're ill they're included in the ill if they're able to focus they should otherwise if they want so in other words you don't have to be ill to eat and drink what if you're excessively hungry and thirsty in other words you can't concentrate let's say like this I'll give you an example let's say somebody wasn't feeling well Friday night and they went to sleep Friday at 12:00 they woke up shabas morning they feel fine now they're just starving and they go to and they going to be going out of their Caleb I mean they'll be able to D but they'll be you know it'll be very uncomfortable you know I want say very they'll be uncomfortable they're allow to eat before ding they're allowed to drink before ding here's my sha you ready for the big Shila day what are you allowed to have how about Selzer you could have Seltzer why not well you know no Isa bubbles but you not how to put sugar in it what about diet soda now according to the Mish you're not that you you're not to put sugar there's no sugar in it you're all there's no is caffeine that we know right you could have black coffee so what I want to have da Coke I want to have a Coke Zero am I allowed to have a Coke Zero before happening what's the difference sugar or sugar the very big difference sugar is food sugar gives you energy sugar is AA diet uh you have Coke Zero and you're hungry you'll be hungry you have regular Coke and you're hungry you won't be hungry if that's the case you should be able to put Splenda or Su coffee yeah okay again that's without the milk right without the milk without the milk okay so szer to have what about Coke Zero according to I mean according to the mishna bua could you have would the Mishu allow you to have Coke Zero they so you say well he did he doesn't say it they didn't invent K zero on the other nobody ever saw the Mish himself never had K zero before daving also I don't know is it G I don't know if the Mish would would go for it okay says the Mish not a hung a little bit hungry very hungry very hungry you should eat or drink now you don't have to drink if you're thirsty don't be a big and say you know really I don't want to put milk in my coffee but I I I won't be able to have such big kavana if I don't put milk in my coffee pal you don't have cavana anyway you're not thinking any way about it even with milk and you put in the creamer and all your stuff you're still not having if you want to eat and drink to be is permitted yeah we'll hold over here RAB say have a great day I heard interesting sh someone forgot this Friday night went to sleep early and he didn't hear kids Friday night this morning he wants have a coffee near KES say KES but he can't have wine now it's not this man KES for the day what's he supposed to do he probably can't have a coffee that morning right recording stopped