Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 80 Seif 1 One Who Can Not Contain Passing Gas, Can They Daven?

good morning everyone we're continuing Ina we're learning Simon P we're starting Simon pay we started it but we're uh we had to go back yesterday uh now when we started meni pointed out something that's worthwhile to emphasize and that is they're to De when it comes to R uh when it comes to being when it comes to what we call passing gas there's a of that if somebody passes gas it's while it smells so if the person thems was the one who did it one is not to learn but if it came from his friend you're allow to learn but you can't D in because during learning it's basically impossible in a big setting that it's not going to happen and that's the din Sim is a separate din all together it's not a din It's A din ofi Sim um I'll I'll sort of translate the M we read it already the M says someone who is confident that he cannot control himself from passing gas until the end of it's better to miss and not then to DAV and not have a gofi so here it's not a matter of the smell it's a matter of the if this passes you're an and you're going to you're going to D twice by the way there's a very interesting question let's say somebody misses so what do they do they D in twice which TWA should they first so they and then they go back and they why is first and then this is a big question this is based on the share we had from the shagas when whether comes before it could be the reason you is because when something is r you're allowed to do it before something that's sort of might might be a to the okay but any event you have a din of you you're allowed to make it up and you tce now if you could control yourself at least not to pass gas during then put on between and and then you make a on it I'm just translating because we did this already that this is all if you're sure that you can control yourself but if you're not sure then it is not proper not to DAV in other words if you're not sure then DAV I you might not have a gofi it's only an issue when you definitively will not have a okay let's see we're up to you know who that the the the they say You're going to miss because you might pass gas so what so let's say you are it's only and even the who's the source of this he doesn't talk about giving up on shma because you have you're you have to pass gas he's only about which is then you could say okay so don't but which is the writes that it was just sort of a mistake in the language he wrote not not fully mistake he wrote it a but he didn't really mean the proof that it's a we find it's only mentioned regarding here also he only concludes with right um all the means is you should deviate from your practice that you normally say but rather very interesting it's like two things number one it's only and number two it has a higher standard that you're what if somebody feels that he will definitely have the urge to be but he could hold it in the dings that rer right said that's okay fine it's a very big it's very disparaging to um pass gas then when you say it's not like you're speaking with the king so you're just fulfilling the will of but wait a second you're not going to be able to wear for because you can't pass gas wearing for sure requires AI you should not wait you say the without the and then whenever you could put them on you should this a reminiscent of the sh from last week about how eating can prevent a person from putting on to F other such things yeah last Wednesday night we learned from thees that somebody who doesn't wear is is a is a sinner with their body so thew explained what does that mean it's talking that somebody who eats too much and then he can't wearin the next day so he sinned with his body by eating too much what if a person pass gas wearing thin do they need to fast do they need to fast the says the right thing to do is to fast because it's much more than if the Fain falls on the floor people get all nervous oh if the falls on the floor passing gas andain is much more the says the gets to fast says that nowadays the Min is not to fast but I'm just bringing this in to emphasize how serious of an inion it is meaning here's another thing don't be mistaken well the MRA says it's only if someone's confident that they have to pass gas that they shouldn't D in yeah but if someone's not sure they should yeah if someone's not sure they should say but not wein if you're mic that you think well maybe I'm not going to be able to have a gofi don't put on the T yet putting on your you know a person doesn't want to put thems in a situation where nobody would ever put themselves in a situation where the might fall so one should not put themselves in a situation they might have to pass gas now feel is should definitely skip even if sh not saying it all together for sure so I mean right for sure in other words if somebody has to one second this is again only for for if we not to be over which is so he saying what if somebody will only be missing a minion but won't be you know in other words he wants to know should I say shma with a minion or should I delay to have a gofi the look in the beginning of but it's that again you're not saying but evening the rest of two with a minion it sounds like you should give up to if somebody doesn't have a gof nakaki now what if somebody Miss and isce writes in the that you should wear for not only for but for the makeup of I mean you should wear not only for the makeup of but for the also now and you make you put on the betweena andish and the r says you make a on it the take you take it off right after sh why because again we're talking about somebody um who could only control himself for shma the Talis he could put on and make a on it before the wear you don't need a to wear if you didn't put on the before the now you want to know can I put on a Talis between and kishma you could put on the to without a wearing it is not a he so you could make a but not on Talis what's the difference so we had earlier that is not and you could say sh without it so the and also you're like May however if someone is embarrassed to sit without a Talis then not only could you wear it you could even make AA yeah we had that earlier I know you don't understand it well you should have asked earlier okay I think you did I only think not only did I think we don't understand this oh yeah get get the video tape prove it that we didn't understand it okay um this is talking about where you had a bad meal and it's causing in um digestive disturbance in a way where by the evening you'll be able to down with somebody who frequently has these issues he has an illness he's constantly pass gas and what are you going tell the guy you can't he'll never he's allow to DAV without a clean body why which is a smell that doesn't have a substance it's not going to come along wow so this di that you don't dve in is if you had a bad meal and it's causing a temporary disturbance for someone who has some kind of illness then he would dve in what about fillan let's see agrees with this of the in if he has to pass gas he should just interrupt until the smell dissipates like any smell that is not from a substance that you stop and you go back in DAV says a guy who is ill and is constantly passing ass could be he would put on F as well he's he's supposed to uproot the MIT of says that of the P that this guy could wear it means he can put on for 30 seconds not for the daving it means says the nearly the it means he can put on for a few seconds to put it on for a full minute it's for sure us let's say the guy M has such an illness he can he's he's passing gas the whole day he he can't even hold it in the amount of time it takes to put on shad and Sh so but he could he could hold it in for one second so he say pal put on the Shad take it off and then put on the say you don't make a why not why would you make a why why should you not make a there's no she how long you have to wear for the is so what if you're poter women are also poter he got a mitzvah for wearing it why shouldn't you make AA unless he's talking about a guy who he's so ill that even during that millisecond he's in danger of passing gas and in that case he might he didn't get the Mitzvah so he can't he can't make the but that's not what the sh says um what he doesn't have time to stay the what do you mean he doesn't have time pass gas he's allowed to make AA when you pass gas take thato or is that but we saw that somebody who has an illness he's allow even if he's going to bask G so for sure he could say AB so he doesn't have to have time to say Thea he'll say the he'll put on theil before he ties it he'll say the while he's passing gas and then he'll hold it in for a millisecond why can't he say there's no den that you can't this guy that's what the M said that the CH said that the if you have to pass gas is only if it happens occasionally if it happens always you could even say so for sure you can make a so M says um the guy is always dripping urine he could make uh he could he could have a bag put around there and the upper garments will be clean while he's dripping while he's dripping he will stop and then hold he's not dripping when he started in other words if if he started before he started dripping then his is grandfathered in even if he knows he's going to be dripping during the he's already grandfathered in [Music] um so this is a very interesting that somebody who has an illness that he's always being he's allowed to say sh and he's allowed to DAV cuz it's only in the primam even says maybe he could put Onan let me ask you why is a p why don't we say he for sure wear how could what would the difference be if you could definitely say sh you could definitely DAV so then why can't you wearin it's more of a Bion for than sh but if the is that the be why for sure can't he wear and why can't he make a okay we will continue with more pleasant and Sim Al tomorrow Sim Al but all these are very in other words uh person has to have ziros and also honesty that sometimes you have to take off your and sometimes it's even better to wait to DAV you don't DAV for yourself you DAV for the so you have to make sure that you you fulfill all the uh appropriate have a great day everyone recording stopped