Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 73 Seif 1-3 Saying Shema ישן עם אשתו

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning everyone good morning friends we're continuing in M uh thanks for joining we're learning Simon a giml one who sleeps together with his wife and children how should he conduct himself regarding says two were who are sleeping under one cloak and their flesh is touching they should not read the unless there's some kind of garment SE or or cover separating between them must name from their waist and down it's talking about back in the day people would sleep um unclothed under a cover so if two people were sleeping and their bodies were touching each other they can't say sh until there's some kind of Talis separating between them from their loins and down says why does it have to be touching then it would be prohibited to read without an interruption of a Talis M even if they would want to turn from each other and face opposite directions so the reason why you need why did the M say they're touching each other because since he said they have to have a tala separating that would be required if they're touching each other if they're not touching each other then they could just turn around one will face the right side the other will face the left side they'll be back to back and it would not be required to have a Talis says the uh continues if they're facing each other then then they cannot read with they can't say sh if there's no even if they're not touching if they're lying close together so in other words like this two people they're unclothed they're under a Talis if they're touching each other then they have to have a tal and they have and that would be required even if they're back to back so in other words they're they're not facing each other you need to have a separation of a Talis if they're touching each other if they're not touching each other they don't have to have a separation of a Talis but if they're face to face even if they're not touching each other they have to have a why you might come to improper thoughts then if there's a it's even they're facing each other why they won't come to it has to be that from their waist and down there's a heal from their waist and up even if their flesh is touching they're not going to come to improper thoughts so the question is what if their one one hand is touching the Flesh of another so are you allowed to say sh then so the K says that the sh you could say sh but says you're you're touching a typically covered part of the body so that would be that would be an issue okay the Misha continues okay the continues it has to be your head is outside of the blanket because if your own head is under the blanket and you could see youra then you can't say besides that you have to make sure there's the the sheet is against your heart meaning up against the waist so that your heart doesn't see the meaning it doesn't Mish have to be on the heart the dersu explains even and this is the way I said it even if it's on your waist that would ensure that your Le we know there's a concept that the heart could see like says so therefore you want to make sure that your La is not writes it would seem to him let's say you said without turning around around your face and without you're going to be that if you didn't turn around and you didn't have a he tal it's just you facing Thea you be that's very difficult to understand why that would be the questions whether in fact you would be now Al seems like it's talking about two people who are sleeping together and they're not necessarily husband and wife maybe two brothers maybe a father and a son that's how the families used to used to sleep that's what we're talking about over here it seems like any gender at all if they're facing each other without a Talis or they're facing away from each other and they're touching there's still an issue of of uh her now we're going to talk about now I would have thought maybe husband and wife is more maybe there's a one should be more stringent because maybe it will lead to uh relations but we're going to see that there's a that it's less stringent because of says sleeping with his wife he could turn the other way even without an interposition of cuz a wife is like your own body there are those who prohibit and it's correct to be for that stringent opinion says a wife is like your own ver and you're accustomed to her it's not going to arouse uh improper thoughts you still need to turn around yeah it has to be back to back face to face it's impossible there won't be improper thoughts what if the man turns away but the woman is still facing him in other words they're not back to back it's his back to her front even though Hera in the front is is opposite his back he could read the it won't come to her as long as his flesh is not touching her what if she also wants to say sh then she needs to turn around however here we're going to see an interesting by St two people they cannot say even back to back unless there's a he Talis husband and wife they could say sh back to back even without AAL even if their flesh is touching they're allowed to say the sh there are those whoer that again the m says you're allowed to turn around even without a healis even if um they B are touching says there are those who what does it mean there are those who so like this in we said that according to the opinion nevertheless you need but even you do not need um you do not need he Talis and we said that even now um he's saying that if it's now what does he mean that if they're facing each other Talis would help I guess that's referring to what we said um in Sim that if they P it's m with Talis okay let's begin if you're sleeping with your children while they're still young is permitted to say by turning away even without we said in that if they're no you need to have Talis even if they're back to back by if your children are young you do not need let's see one for children everyone agrees that since you're accustomed with them and you're familiar with them they're like your own goof and there it won't lead to hear her but face to face he brings a pro even if you're going to say that you don't have to turn around even even if you say you don't have to turn around but if your flesh is touching if your AA is touching their flesh or their AA is touching your flesh it's AER so in other words the here we're saying that if you sleep with your children while they're young you could turn around without have Talis but face to face is Asser by face to face we said by person that it's so the pr is but not if they're not if they're tting touching each other okay we're going to hold it over here we're going to try to um finish this Simmon tomorrow with your permission okay have a good day everyone you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by tor anytime.com