Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 71 Seif 1 The Parameters of When An Onen Is Exempt From Mitzvos

okay good morning everyone learning a mner and anyone who is involved with a mess is exempt from krishma now we learned yesterday that even if you're involved in eating or drinking there's a question whether we have to stop we learned the day before that if you're now we're talking about a different inan somebody who a relative passed away some you're obligated to mourn for you're obligated to mourn but it's not necessarily responsibility to bury you're from and even if you would like to be and to read you're not allowed to if you have someone to make efforts on your behalf with the needs of burial and you want to be yourself and read it sounds like it's not the right thing to do but we're not going to throw Rotten Tomatoes at you okay who who is someone that you have to for they are the seven relatives they are father and mother son and daughter brother and sister and a wife it does not uh it's not incumbent upon you even if even someone who you don't have to bury why why wouldn't you have to bury one of your seven relatives let's say your sister passed away who she's married so it's on her husband you're still now what if you do read it anyway you are not if you read you're not you have to reread it after theur so your fromma and from now one is from let's say you hear someone who is an make a says in that you're not allowed to answer it's so someone who is now I think we're going to see this talking about an even though the did not use that terminology but we're not talking about an during the we're talking about someone who is mourning for a relative that has not yet been buried even though it's not upon you to bury them you're not allowed to DAV you're not allow to say sh if you want to be it's an a what if you have someone to take care of theur it's not the right thing to do but we won't protest but it's not correct it's not correct to DAV and TOA what about to make a on a glass of water you're not allowed to even what about the says you do make that when why it's what says that if some relative dies so not only do you make D you also make a for the that you do not make so even though the says that when relative passes away you make two that have to delay that's the opinion of the says that no you make that as well because what about when you go into says is pter even after theur why cuz once you're pter when you enter so you came in at a time that you don't make it you don't make it on the way out by the way he says that those with the the do not make it either this is something people don't know everyone oh haven't been there in 30 days so I'm I'm at a I'm at a have to make no the doesn't make it and therefore neither does anybody else that's the Min however says no the the Mal do say it um says even the says it what about learning so it it's for to learn what about on we'll have to see and even those matters that an is allowed to learn and O is not allowed to learn unless it's something he needs to know now what about the Das kosim says M theik says okay we just said that in what's theat is theat that and We Know by the way that can't wear sh so how is he allowed to not make is violating an no eating without a is not an it's therefore okay now this is a very interesting side the that without says says the says that this demonstrates that the is to eat without a is from the mitvah since there's a mitvah it's without therefore the is exempt now the sh is like this I understand if you're hungry we let the O will let the O eat without making a but what if it's a he doesn't really have to partake let's say smelling something so do we say well eating we understand you can make a but you have to eat but who asked you to smell this so sh says no there no restrictions since it's he's not to make a he's allowed to smell without is maybe it's better for him not to put himself in that situation says exempt from all what about what about does he have to fast why because it's not he's not in it what later on what if he doesn't have his wife's not around he lights without AA what about the good what about say that in the name of there's a maybe it only takes a few moments so it's not going to uh occupy him preoccupy him from being involved in the mess says count without a and then you could continue counting with a what about Talis cut on you put it on you could wear it why since you wear it as a garment it's like doing a it's not considered a p on the covet of the mess what about now the is an does not wear on the an does not wear on the first day so if you have somebody and you're about to tell them about sh it's better not to tell them until after they put Onin so they don't miss a day of their life without in cuz so long as they don't know that is not okay [Music] um exam from all what if he wants to eat bread even though he doesn't make he has to wash his hands now why would you say he has to wash his hands an is to eat without washing hands is it an iser to eat or is there a Mitzvah to wash your hands to eat I would say the latter there's no iser to eat without your hands washing it's there's a you have a you have a positive Mitzvah right the same way by I would have thought it'ser to eat without say but we don't we don't interpret it that way we interpret it it's from theah I would have thought why why does he wash his hands I mean we have all kinds ofas if it doesn't take up time and it doesn't you know is it because it's user not sure okay now what about eating in a sua um okay one let's read a little bit further in the we'll come back to the second minute by the way the says he wases even okay if there is a kabura in the city um meaning there's aad that the the body bearers are designated to take out the m and after the C make the arrangements they give it over to them and they bury as soon as they give it over to they're all the even before they take the mess out of the house cuz now it's not M on them anymore now that's more typically the situation in our times where basically as soon as the mess passes on you give over the mess to thead so I'm not sure when do the why why do the restrictions of an Supply basically the family doesn't do anything what good goodar but the Mish says not say the Mish says that if there's a KRA as soon as you hire the KRA then then there's no more anos specifically even even if it was never on you even if it wasn't your together suppli I don't no okay good there's a difference between what the M says what says the M says if you have a guide to do it for you then that's okay first the first line the last first it's not your responsibility even the himself when he says later if he has somebody else to do it why should that me it wasn't your responsibility to begin with no now we're talking about someone who it is your responsibility you know case where it is yeah it seems like there's a difference between kadisha and just you have a guy you have you know somebody to do it for you but the island still involved with kadisha depends what the what they do I mean what do they have to do they certain do certain things when when do they do that in the Funeral Chapel Yes actually by the tahara by the Tara so says once you give it over to them you're there's a big shw let's say somebody's flying T you're on a plane what you can't do anything to help the mess so why you're an so I say cuz you're preparing the HED you have to prepare the Hesed what's what's that's the biggest cover the hesped okay it's interesting um um if a l is pushed off till the next day that when the relatives go to sleep they and in because at this point in time there's nothing they could do anymore like by the way the says that if you if the family is not going out with the body Dan Nas stops Dan nus is over okay but says an interesting there's a once you give it over the anus ceases then he says it's not right that the wait until after the the the moment they make up where the mess is being buried they give them all the expenses and the shrouds now most of the time the family does come to the makur it's interesting most of the time you will not see the relatives being involved in theur for some reason I don't know maybe the kadish tells them it's too traumatic for them but if if they are doing part of the K that's more of a reason to legitimize why they're not doing mitv but he says sometimes they haven't really made up where they will be buried it's still the honor of the mess that the family is making arrangements so long as theye then immediately after this they're permitted to so if they're still making arrangements if you know if there are still you know fine details that are up in the air then they're still Ling him I'm sorry or so long as they're eulogizing him Ah that's the key the key is back in the day you would give the mess to the kadisha after the L but nowadays so as soon as you give it to the KRA your the an stops but nowadays just because you give it to the KRA before as soon as the person dies the mishab clearly said says so if the didn't take place yet you're for sure you're still involved in I think that's the answer it's not we're not arguing on the Mish the Mish is talking about a situation where you didn't give it over to the until after they has because he says clearly and immediately after this it's permitted to DAV but if there is no designated even though you have a guy here men this answer to your question there's a between a and a guy you know just because you have a guy it's still on you it's not your responsibility is not relinquished unless there is a um a then the is continues until the burial and you put the dust on him so the din that the poters you does not apply to a guy by the way the D asked an interesting question the a begin when they finish throwing the dust on you so why does the anos stop as soon as they throw the dust on you hear the Kasha here the but the AOS does not begin until all the dust is on you so have a have an interesting question so what is the status of somebody in the 3 minutes in between when they start to throw the dust and they finish he's not in he's not in put in why shouldn't he put on T what you don't put on T first day it's the air you don't put on the first day of aus it's not the first day of AAS first didn't start yet so you run out of B Miss what is he nothing is not he's nothing he's zero what is he if he sells life insurance he's a life insurance salesman if he sells used cars he's a used car salesman what impossible either way take 30 seconds 3 minutes whatever it is so make it longer doesn't take long to put on filling in the note8 he brings that we say only when they finish the a starts so the here writes I have two ways to say it either even though the AOS didn't start it still has a d of a the AOS the KN AOS did not begin but it's still an why because later on today he'll be an so on the day someone starts to become an he doesn't put on fillan at any time even at a time that the nios has not begun or when the when we say begins when it's finished it means uh uh morning not the of anyway M BR continues um soon as they throw the dirt on him the should go home he should immediately go so what do you mean it's not covered of the mace yeah it is he doesn't need to be there the mes doesn't need him to throw dirt on him the mess is not saying throw dirt on me throw dirt on me the mess didn't say that he has to leave the relative must leave immediately as soon as the dust starts to be thrown he has to leave and D in the okay it's very late let's hold it over here okay we'll hold it over here everyone have a great day start why is yeah he's he is user yes what the first step is he's P once he's P he's AER