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Mishmar Parshas Emor with Rabbi Avi Neuberger
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Okay, very good. So, uh, so I have an
interesting job that I'm involved in
Mishbaka magazine. So I'm starting from
a funny angle over here and that is that
they have in Mishbaka has uh podcasts um
and uh one of the podcast is a K podcast
where is a guy you know the guy who did
um the
night state USA I think that's what was
called during the co there was a night
USA for all the kids his name was Shfeld
a guy from Payic and he had like
thousands of kids uh coming on to his uh
night his program in co remember this
Anyways, and so he does a podcast
together with a guy Garfield Gar Fel
something like that. He's a manal. He's
a manal in Houston or Texas or somewhere
in Texas.
>> He has a brother here.
>> Could be. I don't know. Anyways, so
anyway, so the so they shut they sent me
the podcast because they they weren't
sure if they could put it up because
what was the question? He was asking
different monolim about the following
phenomena that was a little bit
controversial. And the question I was
asking was
that it would seem to him that the
further right you go on this on the
spectrum from modern orthodox to okay
from left to right uh the worse in
middle school the is like almost like
correspondence if you the more the more
I thought it's going to be controversial
a little like if if you're more I don't
know if like the kids seem to be better
behaved and then as you move more to the
right there seems to be a
correspondingly
uh worse behavior as you go to the
right. So the west shot in this in this
uh in this phenomena. So one guy said
the guy there was the one from Lakewood
so was said like it's not true
but that was a politically correct
answer I think but I think most people
say that yes
and again then another guy said
yeah and then another guy said like this
another banal said that well if you're
if you're talking about secular studies
is because people are mak that's which
is society. So if you're in a society
where the secular studies is more so
then people going to behave better. If
you're in a if you're in a in a society
where people where where uh the secular
studies is considered to be in garnish
then people going to people going to
behave worse. That was that was his uh
take on it. But Shel pushed back. He
said that doesn't make sense. He said
because Bariah let's say you would have
a magic show and the magic show would be
attended by and and the m and the
magician
not so cool okay
where you think that the that the kids
are more likely to give him a hard time
by the more modern orthodox or by the he
gets it so he said he slugged it up he
gets and that's that's what was left so
I went on to present a shittita not a
sheita a theory that is And it's not my
own idea. I'll tell you in a second. And
uh it's the guy for departure somehow.
Okay, we'll see how we'll see in a
second. This is this is the theory. This
is not something that I invented. I have
a relative who grew up
I can't say it's about chuva mamish
because he grew up in a very so modern
orthodox thing that he come out with
that queens in the 1960s and they used
to go to shy on Israel and then they
would come home and have a shabas and
then watch the game. You know, it was
like this type of it was that type of,
you know, there was a lot of that in the
50s. Yeah. But it was it wasn't any
attitude. It was just that they were
Amirata. That's what it was. I I think
that's how my father was brought up.
>> Yeah, that's what that's what it was. It
was like that that's you know and and
cars.
>> I don't think he drove a car. No, I
think I drove a car. But that the only
thing you know anyway. So So this
relative of mine gradually almost
organically became for him. They send
him to uh hang one of those yeshivas in
five towns and then with the were
regular rebay and they sent eventually
to became automatically fluent. So so
because of his perspective and he then
he became a rabbi and then he saw the
the then he experienced being a rabbi in
the different background. So he said he
so because of his background he was able
to develop the following idea. He said
that when he grew up there was nothing
in society that was negated that was
spoken against. Want you know watch
television watch television. You want to
listen to rock and roll. Want to go
what? You want to go to movies? Watch
movies. You want to read books read
whatever you want. You want to have a
girlfriend? Go ahead. You know there was
nothing there. He never heard any
negativity. Everybody's wonderful.
Everybody is great and this and that.
Everything was galdic. Right. Uh but and
this this is where the theory comes in.
He says at the more right you go the
more of society by definition you have
to reject right because if you're more
an orthodox thing you reject one thing
if you're more from you reject more lit
one thing
horrible you know I mean so the more the
more right you go the more of society
you're going to reject good that's
that's the that's fine the problem is
that the more you reject then the more
you teach negativity and the more you
teach more you teach cynicism so
therefore it teach well if Ruben is not
good and Shiva is not good then the
teacher is not good then the clown's not
good then the magician is not good it's
it's and it's the mathem it's the
mathematics of because it looks like
because the more the more you go and the
more the more you're teaching
automatically inherently
>> it shouldn't be coming in a place of
negativity
>> hold
so but but unless you're careful right
unless you're careful that's what's
going to happen what's going to happen
is that as you go to the right? You're
going to become more and more negative
and more and more
cynical and and if if you teach cynicism
then it's it it breeds that it breeds
negativity and and that's what happens.
A kid's naturally wholesome and
innocent.
But when when this is not good and
that's not good, everybody's not good.
And and you develop that there's a on
negativity, you know. And all cynics
cynics aren't wrong. Any any negative
just this is good. They're not wrong.
They're just focusing on on that which
is negative instead of focusing that
which is positive. But right analog is
not wrong. But just what come what comes
across is that there's all this
negativity. It it it it develops a very
a very unhealthy child, a very a very
unhealthy product. So the shil is how do
you how do you escape this problem? If
if you're going to be rejected society
that's fine. So but how do you do it in
a way that you shouldn't get this
collateral damage? That's the problem.
>> Oh so good. So so so there's two ways of
doing it. Instead of one way is that you
like what you're saying is instead of
instead of knocking that which is bad,
you celebrate that you celebrate that
which is good. That's so so yeah but you
have to be careful about that. That
means you have to make you have to make
a concerted effort not to do that not to
do it the other way you know and that
apparently you know you have to think
about it to do it that way. Um that's
not always so easy because sometimes you
have to speak negatively if about what
you but yeah but that's that's uh you
have to focus on the positive um
or and or maybe not or and together with
and that is when you do speak negatively
but you have to if if that you're going
to be negative you have to
correspondingly
be
that means you're going to say that this
is not good and that's not good but you
understand we come from different places
And you have then different foods have
different mileers and so on. You have to
if you're going to be negative, you
better make it your business to be very
positive because otherwise the
negativity will stick a heck a heck of a
lot quicker than the next where the koi
is coming from.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Because understood why he didn't.
>> Yeah. Okay. Because it's a it's a it's a
it's a dangerous game to play. But yet,
you know, if if that's your if that's
your society, that's your values, you
have to do it. But you have to
counteract it with positivity. Um,
right. So that's the that's the I think
I think I think that that's a sure part
of it. This it's not I don't think it's
the only factor but it's a very uh it's
a very conveyor factor. Um now what does
it have to do with this week's para? So
it's like this. We have we have this
week's para vet
is and a doesn't say what it is
anonymous is
he's a son of so his mother was Jewish
and his dad was not right
and then
he cursed the shame got all angry and he
cursed the shame
is His mother name was and she was the
she was she was she was not theistri she
talked too much like that rash brings
and she uh
>> the same sham that Mosha used to kill
>> his father yeah yeah interesting
>> it was like me it was like
>> that's interesting okay and um
and uh
then what happens was that that that he
he's
put to death right he because he's a
shame he's put to death Yeah. Um so so
Rashi says as follow first of all it's
interesting that the we don't we don't
we don't we don't know anything about
him. Oh one second just just that um
just that he was
doesn't say where went out from Israelis
and it's anonymous he's say from Shon
right um
>> he claimed
no his mother was
right good so where did he go out from?
So says
he he left he left the world. Okay.
Um
he left the previous para. What's the
previous para? Because the previous par
was it says
it's talking about him and it says
is placed on the
right is placing the onabas and taken
off the next shabas and a week later is
going to be quite not fresh. So he made
fun of that that from the ble he said um
he said
bit me because he made fun of what type
of bread this is this was in the base in
the mishk
stale bread from a week old that's what
he made fun of okay um and then
another said
because what happened was he tried to
put his tent in the oil
and they said
over here
what do you mean
it goes by paternal descent not by
maternal descent and your your father's
a so get out of here so he kicked him
out of it so
means he left he left the belt he he
left the belt whatever that means he
left but the second shot is he left
meaning he had tinus on the previous
para he had on the para
upon him that is stale bread. And the
third thing is that he left Mosha in
because he was kicked out of the he was
kicked out of his m. Okay.
>> He he went to Mosha.
>> Yeah. He right he can he stay there and
and it was totally what
>> was this?
>> This is Rashi.
>> No. No. Who who is the person? I I was
just
>> It doesn't say his name.
>> Right. Right. It says that's part of it.
>> It does not say his name. It says say it
doesn't say his name. That's part of
that's also interesting. It doesn't say
his name.
>> It's like instead of blurring his face,
they blur.
>> Right. They they blur everything. Right.
Right.
>> So the sense that you get over here from
the whole from the whole thing maybe
like this. That's Kufa was here. Why was
the guy so miserable about why he's so
angry? Why was he so cynical? Why is he
questioning Hashem for? Because it was a
man without a place. He was a man
without a shyish without any place to
belong to. He was father wasn't Jewish.
His mother was slamist bast
and he tried to
>> descendant of also who
>> who
>> he was the descendant of k okay know
okay so he he was also he was also
godish he was also a man without a place
the kind was somebody whose English was
to go to go anyways but he saying that's
what he's saying
>> yeah yeah he was he was he was u so he
was a man without without a country he
was anonymous did give him a name he was
he had no identity he had identity
crisis He had no place she cuz she she
was Jewish. But what what
>> he had no shave it cuz the
>> Right. Right. That's what she said.
Right. Right. Right. Right. So when you
have when it was so like this what what
keeps somebody so so I'll get back to
other topic. I once heard a share from
and he said something which I thought
was aish but afterwards I thought it
made sense. He said that he was doing
class and he said that if you want to be
successful in what you do you have to do
is you have to give your children a
sense of pride that they belong to your
family
that he should be proud of being in this
family and it's not a question of ga
it's just a question of identity I'm
proud because every every family every
their nuances of what they're mak this
guy could be Hungarian he's makim and
and and there certain and and and other
kind of business and other place could
have a different thing we're this so
they singing this that doesn't make it
doesn't make what what it is but
everybody automatically has their own
and what you what you want to do is you
want to infuse your children with the
sense of a shyish that he's founded he's
in He wants to be a yak and wears the
talis. He's not embarrassed. it.
That's a sense of pride. No, I'm saying
I once said in the ground they the
question that my my kid doesn't want to
yaki and my kid doesn't want to wear a
talis. I forced him to wear a talis. You
know he's come by m they wear that big
thing. I don't know they don't want to.
So he don't want to put it on. He's
embarrassed. I said I said the whole the
law of wearing it
>> should be proud.
>> You should right is that you're proud of
it. I I bet. And if he and and if if he
doesn't want to wear it, then you didn't
do the job well. But there's no point to
force him to do it. The point is to
infuse the child with a sense of
Gavaldic. You know, this should I'm
proud of who I am. And that's a healthy
thing. If you're proud of who you are,
then you're getting to be proud of who
he is. There's nothing. It's not it's
not a little of somebody else. It's a
healthy pride of who you are. If you
don't have any, if you're somebody who
is Mr. anonymous and he's not part of
dung and he's not and and and he gets
thrown out. So then he feels like
nobody. He feels like he he becomes
cynical even to the degree. So
he's he's
maybe some maybe some and he's migling
on the on the upon him. Why? Why is upon
him not something that got stale week
old? Why didn't it get stale? because it
never left the it was on the table in
the
it stayed warm right and in fact that's
what they used to do by when they were
they used to say
they would take out the the the the
show they would show the to everybody
yeah why
because they're about to go back home
right and they're going to they're going
to be leaving their They're going to say
listen that connected to your like these
breads that are on the table. It could
be a week later.
So if you feel and you stay you don't
have to go home have to go home but if
you still feel connected to mdash you'll
have you'll be able to feel good about
yourself. You're able to feel fresh.
You'll be able to stay connected.
That's what that was the message. We
have to keep that alive and this Mr.
anonymous banish Israeli I'm not saying
what but that's what happened if you if
you're not part of a community then you
become then you become fashion then and
then bread fresh bread you know he's not
part of no there was no there was no for
for him to hold on to then you become
cynical and angry and bitter and that's
what happened you started cursing got
the whole the whole velt
just turned around yeah
>> he just said in the in the
before he said
>> that that's
and the
>> is and
it's very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Very
connect. Yeah. Very good. There's a that
you know maybe talk about pes um what's
what's the of last week's para is is
very and points this out and the points
it is very reminiscent of pes they take
the birds and they take blood and they
put in the s right it's a very it's a
very reminiscent
the harmed
is very reminiscent of the pesim when
you do mim you take Um, and you put it
on the you put it on the wood of the of
the thing. You take a you take a you
take use a you take a a thing. Hop hop.
So to
and of the you take a bird a and you
take and you have blood also because you
have two birds. You shuck one bird. You
put the blood into the into the soft and
then you into into the thing and you
take the the and you put it you put it
on the Well, you're very similar, right?
You don't put it on the under. You put
it on the under water. Yeah. and Egypt
do then you send another one out the
butanza points it out the says that
there's a he doesn't explain he says
that there's a demian between the
processing of mitra and the processing
of a a
so
what's the
what's interesting is that in both cases
they find the word nega the only place
that you find nega besides by is oidga
Alp and that's talking about
>> right and the end of that is also with
with this thing
>> not what I'm saying now is from David
for this part from so he said that's
they're very interesting and over here
also but the same is went free and the
other ones got killed over here one one
bird got free and one bird got far away
it's like very very very clipping and
there points out there seem to
What's what's the shak is this that the
birth of KL Israel as a sour the sber of
Israel was born when they left Mits
they're waiting there to leave Mits in
fact they say that that's why the dam
was put around the doorway is because
like that's what happened when the when
when a baby's born there's a beia
through dam that's what happens they
break through dam so there was a birth
of that and they're wait and right
you're waiting for that moment that they
say say you can't
is very against that making it earlier
or later when the when the wants the
baby to be born is that when the baby
should be born it has to be moment and
the baby's pushing they got out and
there and it's pushing and it's pushing
and now what what it has to be it has to
be it has to be and then and that moment
then it came out then then was born as a
nation is somebody who broke away from
the nation he's agi
to the to the
If he wants to get back into the he has
to redo
he's somebody that broke away from from
from from the ta that was born at that
moment if he wants to get back into that
he has to re he has to revamp it he has
to do it again he has at the same time
with the dam coming around and he has to
because until that point go he has he
has to realize what it means to be
himself and he wants to go back into it
he has to he has the same type of thing
but if you're part of the and you're
part of getting back to another thing
then you
Otherwise to do it by yourself,
you have to be part of the
Okay, good.
>> Yeah.
>> What?
>> Take it off the court. Yeah.