Zevachim Daf 103 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning rap. We're holding on smack in the middle of the D. We're a little bit behind. This is one of the most interesting in all of Shas. First of all, it happened in the bathroom. Second of all, typically when we have a Kavimer, this is a Kavimer. the person saying over the there's something that's that's uh a powerful thing and there's something less powerful something heavy light whatever you want to call it but there's a person who talks about the objects over here the objects are talking to themselves between themselves it's the only time in chass that the actual and the are having a discussion with each other only time in chass I heard this says I heard this from son who's in the cave with his father came out. They they had this power. They were able to burn people alive. I heard this. He heard that. He said this over in the in the bathroom. Dantar all the way in the bottom of this is gonna say how in the world can you learn to in the bathroom but he says but is a person who's and goes to the mikvah during the day he goes to the mik at 12:00 in the afternoon he's not 100% tired he still has a little bit of tuma left him he must wait until after poof the tuma goes away so we show him as a a purple outline individual I'm going to show you in a second The tulo is and the tulim comes and says all we have to do is concentrate now on these four lines and then once we know these four lines the whole is the same exact thing basically. So let's do this together. The guy who's comes to a who's not two and are having a discussion here. The goes to the who's not who's and he says there's a there's an offering of bread a certain type of you know flower offering that you bring in the in the mikdash that a brought. Give me a piece of that and I'm going to eat it tonight. Not now. I can't eat on tummy. I can't even touch it. But I want to eat it tonight. Oh my. So the you see what I'm saying? This is so interesting. The are having a discussion. Let me just show you this real quickly on the screen. This guy is in other words, he has a lot of power. When a kayen, an individual cayenne, let's say does an a on chabas by mistake, he has to bring a carbon. Yeah. A lot of times you do an a by mistake on chabas. He didn't realize something is us or somebody said, "Oh, you know that's us." If not, what do you do? He's supposed to say, "Okay, when Mashiah comes, I'm going to buy a $500 carbon." That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to bring carbon kos. If a kan brings a carbon kos, how much does he get to eat from this carbon? If the ken himself brought it, how much does he get to eat? All of it. Minus a very very small amount that goes in his plus he gets to hide. Nobody else could touch it. It's his 100%. Now you'll call 95% is so that's tremendous. He has a lot of power. The opposite the opposite we're doing the flower offering that is bad news. the coin gets zero. So that's very weak. So now we go one step further in the column. When a is brings a carbon the the co gets to eat a portion not all of it gets to some of it. So now he says like this and check this out. But when when uh when brings a then [clears throat] the gets to eat some of it. So now let's see inside. So the the who tells the in a place that you were very powerful when you brought your own and you weren't nevertheless on the bottom on the top you're very powerful but in the bottom case when is brings I can tell you you get nothing why do you get nothing because you are right now you're called you don't get it so when you're talking about a we're talking about he wants a piece of the aka You start out on a very weak position when you yourself bring you get zero. It goes on certainly I could push you off and tell you you don't get any of the Yeah. So let's do it again says give me a portion of the so the says no if by which you have a lot a lot of power. Why do you have a lot of power? Because you get to eat the entire if you bring it yourself. Yet if the Israel brings it, you get zero. Why? Cuz you're so by the when you bring your own you get zero. So certainly if you're you get zero. So the answers him, hey don't bring me a riot from both powerful. The reason why you are powerful in a is the same reason why I'm powerful in the reason why you're pushing me off is because when you bring your own you also get the whole thing and that's for that reason you're going to try to get me out of the we're both weak in we both if we brought ourselves we wouldn't get any of it for that says the we have that says that doesn't get a portion We can't learn from or anything. You don't get a portion. You know why? Because it's if you it says in the who's who does the he gets it. So you you want it you want a portion of the come and and and and do some since you can't do a you can't get the let me just show you what Yoshi did here. [sighs and gasps] Basically the two are having the discussion. So now let's keep on going. It's the same idea now over and over three times until the bottom of the now he tells him the guy was he tells the guy was 10 before he's saying give me a saying give me some of the and I'll eat it tonight after I become the one tells him we already established by the where I I'm very weak at a why am I weak by because if I brought my own I wouldn't get any the and I was able to push you off by the of the that we established already that you can't get a portion of the so when it comes to the we're just doing the reverse now where I have a lot of power why do I have a lot of power because I get to eat the entire thing if I bring my own in certainly brings it I'm not going to give you anything the one who says You know why? When the Israel brings a I don't get it. We're both weak by the by the we're both weak. If we both bring a we both can't eat it at all. So we're both weak. That's why the Torah said that I don't get any portion from the but by we're both powerful because we bring we both get to eat the entire thing. So maybe I should get a portion of the So he gives up the who gives up. He says we have another who does the he gets to eat it. Show me that you can do and then I'll give you a portion since you told me you can't do you don't get a portion next. Yeah. Everybody's with me. Sorry. So then he tells him give me a portion of the of the and I want to eat. Oh my he tells him so says in a place that you were very strong we already established you're not going to get a part of where you're already weak. Why are you weak? You don't get the whole thing. You don't get 95%. You only get 20%. you only get the the pressed and the and the thigh. So certainly I can push you off. So he says no the one who's say you know only I can't give it to my wife. I can't give it to my slaves. So I'm weak over there. My wife and children my slaves they could they could also eat from the I'm powerful over there. Maybe I should get a portion of it when I'm there. We have a possible who throws the blood. He gets it. If you could do this, you could eat it. So says interesting. The leaves with comes out all bruised from this fight. He lost every single argument. All is on top of his head. He represents all the down the down the one who just lost his father and the one who not only has to wait until she until the nightfall but also has to bring a carbon the next day. He certainly can't get a portion of all these things that the try to get. And now I'm just going to show you the last part of this. Here is the all thers. foil eight lines from the bottom. You know what's missing? Why didn't he continue the argument? The tul should say if there's a firstborn animal and you give it to the and the puts on this guy is a little bit of tum some of it left in the mikvah some of it is waiting until nightfall give me a portion right now and I'll eat it when I when I'm tonight I'm going to be starving the one who's says boys if you don't like the fine because it's going to be over in 10 seconds and we're starting something brand new. He tells him when I I'm and I'm in a bad position by because I can't give it to my wife and to my slaves and I was nevertheless even though I'm weak I'm and I'm weak I was able to push you guy out and I didn't give you a piece in a place that I have very strong powers in I'm very powerful the I get the entire thing it's mine in a place that I'm powerful. I shouldn't give you anything. So he answers him back, the one who you know why you pushed me off. We're both weak in that that gives you right to push me off. We're both strong over there. So that's why with this that only the one who throws the blood gets teeth same thing over. So how come in the bathroom didn't come up with this whole about how come it's only doesn't say that the meat goes to the who throws the blood. If it only says it doesn't say meaning there are blood of holes. You're right does get to to to eat from the so that's why only brought the other things the but not because actually holds that a does get to to to shear in the portion of the Now the bottom line, two lines from the bottom. How could think and learning in the bathroom allowed to think about everywhere? Besides in the bathroom and in a shower, in a in a in a bath house. So says, "No, no, don't worry about it." Says, "Not you can't talk it. We could think it by mistake. You try to do anything you can. The villain wrote on on math geometry in the bathroom because you got to do stuff to to to remove the the the thoughts. All right. So now we're starting about the hides. You have to understand in the time of the Gmorrah the hide was everything. They didn't have plastic. They didn't have you made everything from from leather right shoes other things culturally we know let's start with this says I I just underlined because the is going to bring that those two words in a minute the height of the which we know the goes you burn the entire thing on the doesn't get to eat a morsel of The gets all the hide of you want to see it also applies to to all the who gets kachimum. If somebody brings a schlamim who gets the hide of the schlamim the owner. The owner not the owner gets all the meat besides a little bit of it. So culturally if for whatever reason you couldn't put the meat on top of the why became possible for some reason so the cannot get it high the words are extra and we learn from it has to be anah that did the job for the human being. it accomplished what it set out to accomplish. Then the the could get to eat to use the height. What if you have a that was without the right intent? Meaning that instead of thinking that it's an said, oh, I'ming it's the first of that means without intent. Even though you're right, it didn't it doesn't have the proper it didn't accomplish what it set out to accomplish. The owner has to bring a second, but the truth is you put that on the you don't have to throw it out. If you do the same thing to you toss the out, you have to burn it outside. It's garbage. But this you put on, but nevertheless the gets to to use the the hype. I guess the mission is asking it says in the so you think oh it's only this applies only to the of a man no no no no it's even of a woman's going to ask so then why say ish because it's telling us this has to accomplish what it said out to accomplish who gets the height of like aim what else goes to the owners. That the doesn't get to eat any of it yet. He gets to hide where they get to eat some of it and then she certainly should get they should get the hide and then the says and don't try to up the because it doesn't it never gets to hide the is going to explain we got to pick up pace because I see we're already 48 minutes into this into the recording and we're still ondish The is not does not give the hide to the when it's the of the is going to explain besides the which the gar is also going to explain that it means that the died. What does it mean that the cannot cheer in the misarus? Means let's say somebody brings a carbon before he's able to bring it the asham runs away. So now he's stuck. So what does he do? He has to buy another asham. So he buys another asham. What happens every single time? You know how it is. You buy an asham. Second asham. What's going to happen? Right. >> Right. No, but you're not going to find right after you shed it. As you come home, the asham shows up at the door. That's every single time it happens to me. Now, what do you do? What do you do with this asham? What do you do? This is your stud. You put him in a in a special place that you should get a mum. And once he gets a mum, you're able to uh sell him. And then what? Oh, that what what you just saw the last piece I'm going to show you. That's the desserts. Means dessert for the sob has a like there's not enough carbonas. So you grab a you put it on there. So it says that when you sell this this this asham you make sure it has a you send it to Kevlan. It has a you sell it you take the money you buy. So that you buy the cannot take the hide. That's what it means. A regular that is brings the kind takes the hide. Not this one. That makes sense cuz because that extra money goes for an of the community doesn't get to share in it. Who gets it? The better says that this money goes back to the guy that had the so now becomes individual. Why shouldn't take the hide? Says you're right. What's it's the carbon diamond that we bring every morning. It's a it's the first. So means it's the first. Soami. So to in the next this P I'm showing you over here which is talking about the height of the the the the the asham that you had to sell and you bought a with it. We're talking about originally the first one was so we're scratching the asham thing. We're going back to and that's it. revival of it's coming to say that if somebody says you see this I'm giving it to the mdash that they should use it for the upkeep of the he took an supposed to go on top of the and he gave it to the upkeep of of the mikdash says that it works able to grab it grabs it but even says that the cannot grab it. Can't grab the meat. It's able to grab the the hide and therefore does not go to the same thing. It goes to the the cannot take from even though the says take the hide off not an extra getting lost and Kevl the whole thing. It must go according to but that can't be retracted. How do we see this? We learn new things every day. You all know or maybe you don't know the is a pushka box and they had these pushkas in the bdash and there's 13 of them and you you could see 13 here. I'll explain to you why. One of them said one they're for different things. If you want to for the birdsim for wood and then is six pushkets like that all over the base of English. So that's why it's 13. So just discussing now that was the easy part of you put in the pushka over there that comes from the asham that you sold from Kevlan and you have the money and it goes to you put in the pushka it's shaped like that so you can't stick your hand in there and take money out it go it's a oneway what it's a narrow you also I know you so it's narrow on the top and it's wide in the bottom. It could contain a lot of money, but you can't be a thief and put your hand in and take money out. So says does not get the hide of a of a right. It's not the regular it's the comes from. So now explains how do I know that review retracted says and he came up with a this is the med that he said this is the he said I'm very proud of you really quiet it's unbelievable he's going to be quiet he is son amazing so you see this p over Who? It seems like the asham goes to who? What does it say? But then there's a h [clears throat] here says that the it goes to the note. See a contradiction. Does the go to hem or does it go to the which one is it? So he says if it comes from you should buy with it. So what do you do to to solve the contradiction? The meat goes to the heart goes to. So he says how you going to how you going to explain? [clears throat] Okay. Very good. Now, I forgot to say that a second before he said a good shot, but didn't argue with it. And since didn't argue, it seems like he retracted. In other words, it says that what the hide goes to and you said that in the name of that the hide doesn't go to the kayen. You see that in didn't argue with this. So you see agrees that it goes to the how you going to explain talking about a case where a person decides to give everything away to the mikdu and we're going to go with a person gave everything away to the guy and part of his belongings were animals. Some of them were male, some were female, and they were able to go onto them. Now, I don't know what this guy did. I don't know what he wanted me to do with it. You sell these animals, this to people that need any scream, anybody need here, buy this. Take this and the money. What do you do? The money give to what do you do to anybody? The person wanted all the money to go to. Ah, he had some animals that are good for the and if the person says it's for you can't just sell it out and then it has to go to the Okay, so make sure it goes to sell the people that need and we're going with. So what does say when it comes to the to the to the to the males? Don't sell them to somebody. Put it directly on only should put on. Why? So Rashi says something very interesting. What happens to Schlam? People eat the meat. But the guy doesn't want people to eat the meat. The guy wanted to give everything to the B mikdash. Oh, so the is sell it and all the cash will go to the B mdash like this. No coin is going to be eating this this guy's. Imagine you give a a donation to a yeshiva and people end up eating your money having pizza on your on your account. It's not you want the money to go directly to yeshiva. [clears throat] So [clears throat] even according to that says that sometimes a person gives a little bit to a little bit to the that's with the meat when it comes to the hide everything goes to the and not to the and that's what demand that it doesn't go to the this Now if there's a coin doesn't get the hide issue why not he's not he's not ish the says a man is not a man he's a Jew like any other Jew comes to exclude a convert a g who dies and doesn't have a he doesn't have aish Then the high does not go to the who does it go toh or there's another that says even to the says the of a man so I think it's only the man how do I know that this includes also the of a woman you can take out the gimm here the the the women There's extra. So then why in the world that the Torah used the word is when it doesn't include it's not only a man. It's not it's not it's not to be a woman. It's includes a woman. So why say it means that it it did its job. It accomplished what it said out to do. It comes to exclude when the had a thought as he'sing it that he's going to eat the meat late. So if the had this thought as he'sing it in that case the does not get its height. So maybe for the same price I should say that if the coin had a thought a different type of thought that it's a different carbon it's not it's maybe the should not be able to get the hide in that case. How do I know that the hides go? Maybe this also includes the the the lesser category of that sort of thing that they should get the hides. We said already who gets the high owner it has to be similar to just like is in the category of not so says I don't need a I can learn this from logic and the is going to ask afterwards so then what does he do with the they were learning from so just pay attention to that says I don't need a I got a and how come can't learn from is going to say at the end because sometimes even though there's the writes it so people don't make a mistake or whatever. So let's see inside what's the simple here's the we said this a few times already today the which cannot eat but they eat they they get to hide where the does eat certainly the hide says well we'll prove it to you that what it gets to eat the meat eats meat and it doesn't get any hide. No, I could push that off. Never gets to eat any hide in any situation. So, what does that tell me? That it's not something that's edible for it's not. So, don't bring me from there. Get to eat once in a while from different. So therefore they always get I'm sorry they get the the hide once in a while like by the so therefore they get by all the says I don't need any to teach me that other types of animals other types of carbanas the hide goes to the only one that I need a for is what it says in the for the Just think about it. He says the hide and the meat always go hand in hand. The the the cow, the bulls and the goats that we burn outside, how do you burn them? The the meat and the hide go together. When you have the gets the meat, who gets the hide? The If the wants when he gets his meat, does he have to skin it? No. He could cook it with the skin, he could take off the skin. He can do whatever he wants. If they want, they can leave the skin on. Now, let's talk about the goes to the owner. If they want, they can take off the skin. It says you should remove the skin. You have to remove the hide from it and then chop it up into pieces. So maybe the should not get its hide only by I would think he doesn't get the hide. Why? Because you don't get any of the meat. That's why the has to come to say he gets the hide. Now we have to understand but why does the say this comes to exclude a person who's taught me a little bit that he went to the mikvah but it's not it's not night time or he didn't bring his carbon and somebody lost the loved one okay they don't get a portion of the meat because you have to eat it it's edible but to high they should get a portion it comes to exclude proudly why you should learn from because you're right. But nevertheless, the Torah sometimes goes ahead and talks about it cuz somebody will come later on. If you learn something from logic in a later generation, somebody will disprove your logic. Learn what it's going to do with the learned from to begin with that gets comes to exclude. We just finished saying that. What do you learn with the two words? comes to exclude. So why is he learning from he should learn from according to his own it's like it says these two words here and says these two words here says the says the same words you're allowed to take the bones and make a flute out of it do something with the bones so too by the you're allowed to do something with the bones we know when we We could always undo the we could slug it up unless there's extra words says. Yes, we have extra words. How can you slug it up? Of course, you can use the bones because you could eat the meat. So, you can use the bones, but you can't eat the meat. So, maybe you shouldn't be able to eat the bones. You use the bones. Therefore, since the words are extra, so we have sha that teaches us that you could use the bones of have a wonderful day for having me. [music and singing] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today mdysonsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.