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Niddah Daf 11 By R' Menachem Mateh

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okay good morning everybody that viewed out live [Music] okay so we saw in the mishnah that if meaning it wasn't a standard period it was because of something that happened so she stole dia chateau and she stole mitana only from now on on and not backwards says the gemara amma kafsa vasakov what happens if she jumped and then she saw blood and then again 30 days later she did the same thing on the same day she jumped and she saw blood because of that day slash jumping doesn't make a difference what kind of investors would she go there what is the message because we have here two things we have here a specific date and we have here a specific action says if we're gonna say it's because the day is like we know and we see that if she doesn't do this jump whatever it is she doesn't see so we can't say that it's just the day that is the cover the vest says ella look food no it's the jumping that is the bestest meaning that if she jumps even though she doesn't see it she has to worry about it and she has to check herself she's also that day etcetera says i feel comfortable cover versus we know that if they want to be cover a vessel according to an ins meaning an action that causes this scene of the blood even if she did it several times you not go there versus my live local versus cloud must mind that you can't because they are avestas at all due to an action [Music] light cover no what it means like of a vessel when it says meaning it's not covered for days on their own or for the jumps on their own is for the two of them together meaning that if on a specific day when she jumps she sees and then again 30 days later the same thing she jumps and she sees in that same day and then for three times she covered vessels for the day and the jump meaning if she see if the day comes and she didn't jump she's not closer to the business if she just jumps on any other day she's also naked it's the combination of the two things sizzix for the days on her own of course not we just said that the only reason that she saw was she jumped meaning that on that same day if she didn't jump she didn't see so what what's the hadith this is a very interesting case he's going to confess she jumped on all the way from the peanut gallery okay she jumped on on a sunday and she saw it they covered and then 30 days later she jumped on a sunday again and she saw again and then 30 days later the shabbos scuffs of the she jumped on the shabbos before that sunday and she didn't see her and then on sunday she saw but there was no jump so now the uh i taiwanese think by rehearsing on sunday without doing this jump so this proves to us that the reason she saw is because of the date and nothing to do with the jump kamash milan defeats me the admiral gomer no what she saw today was also because of the jump of yesterday yesterday after she jumped so she jumped a bit early so we see again it's the combination of the day and to jump together that is what is covered a specific vessel if she didn't jump at all would she not have seen a period is that what we're saying because there's no donation that makes her that makes her cool good question i don't know what's the cause you're asking yeah i don't know yeah how far back how i don't know what happens if she doesn't see that sunday the next day she jumps if she pushes that day i don't know you have homework i want an answer tomorrow lish nakarina okay the same ideas we just saw just a little bit different versus if she jumped and she saw and then 30 days later she jumped and she saw her 30 days later she jumped and she saw she's covered herself a versus for days and not for the jump says how could that be we just said right we understood yeah this is it's as if we're saying this before we said well we just previous version of the combination it's not making that only if only only the days that's what angmar is understanding so now is going to explain what are we talking about um what is it basically it's a parenthesis that you skip out she sees on a sunday we're jumping she's in another we're jumping in this kind of a case she's called there are vessels for days only not with the jump why the hassan igle milsa diamond because on the third sunday she sees without a jump that proves to us that the twice before that she saw the reason that she saw was just because of the days and nothing to do with the jump okay it's very interesting here you see in both places it has the the shabbos one is the squares parentheses one is a circle parentheses okay one you're supposed to read out or not okay oh [Music] so we just said in the mishnah that these women a woman that has a vest as kavua okay she doesn't worry if she sees blood she doesn't worry backwards she always worries from now on so the mission again what this is no this is the vessel someone has the verses nothing to do with it no so whether the specific day and specific date she sees so she doesn't have to worry uh from when she sees backwards okay so says the mishnah even though we said meaning that she starts being tummy from now on and not backwards she still has to check herself every day we'll see in a minute when and we'll see the gemara invite there also why okay so she still has to check except we'll see anyone talks about it except for someone who is already a nida she's a tom anita so she doesn't have to check again and we're going to discuss why would we think that she does and why not very chevy someone who is seeing blood but it's a to her blood meaning which is after she gives birth so she's um she's tummy for the first either a week or two weeks depending if it's a boy or girl and then afterwards there's a period of damn toyah meaning that all the time that she sees then is considered of tahara so she doesn't have to check because we're not worried that a dumb tummy is going to come in that time um now this is a new take on except for checking she has to be misha every time she's in the champs with her husband she has to check herself before and after the shemosh okay for two reasons first of all that she should know if she's allowed to be with her husband and second of all if casper after what she finds then they had to bring carbon because she wasn't either the same idea or someone that has a damn toy her already even though she's seeing blood she's to her she's allowed to be with her husband there's no point of checking someone who is absurd will see negama invited the first four days in certain ways she is still taught her even though she's seeing blood so she doesn't have to check before shimosh and what we said at the beginning of the mishnah that she still has to check she has to take check twice shakes the banishment she has to check in the morning and evening in the morning to make sure that she didn't see throughout the night and that she could start working with the hires today and then in the evening to see that all she did in the past day everything is okay um and when she wants to be with her husband she also has to check herself to make sure that she is taught yesterday so this is all talking about regular women kahana is a woman that who's a kaihan or married talk and she eats trauma so she they have to check even more but shall she not it's not enough that they check in the morning and evening when they come to each rumor they also have to check themselves to make sure that they don't eat tremor she he says not not only before you eat also when they're finished eating the same idea as we said every time that's right period yeah okay nightmare is going to talk about here exactly what we're talking how are we talking about yes okay so we said in the mishnah that the nida doesn't have to check twice a day says in the first seven days that she sees that she's called anita she does not have to check to see if she's still seeing or not says what happens if she sees for two days and then she stops for two days and then she sees again and she covers herself a vessel of four days right she saw on day one she saw day one and day two she saw blood i need this then she stopped for two days three and four she didn't see and then on day five she sees again is that a new vest is that a new cycle a new period it's part of the seven days that's the muscles okay so what happens if she sees she has that kind of thing in the ziva days yeah we have neither days of seven okay and then you may ziva is 11 days after that if she sees again in the ema zeva we do start a new cycle okay that's she see that's a different thing okay we're talking about here cycles right so if she sees again in the zebra days she starts a new cycle that everybody agrees now what happens if she sees again she stopped the blood and then she started it again is that considered a new cycle or not so according to rabbi shimon bin lakish he says ishaq vasily vs misaki mezivasa as we said in the days of ziva she is says abba during the days of neither she doesn't start a new cycle so that's good that's why she doesn't have to check it doesn't make a difference what that's part of the seven days yeah it's not a new cycle so there's no point of her checking again right she stole blood now for seven days she doesn't have to worry about anything it doesn't matter if she stops and she sees and she sees again it's all considered one thing that happens from day 8 to 11. that's right then it's a new cycle it's 8 no that's what we just said the amazi you restart the cycle [Music] goes fine that's why she doesn't have to check because it doesn't make a difference to us if she stops if she sees again same thing that says that we could start a new cycle within the you may need uh technically what does that mean i don't really understand because it means that she's gonna have a vessel every four days every five days she starts counting the new seven yeah that's what i'm saying yes no not of needles of vessels a cycle right we have the whole what's this whole vest this thing this whole second is is a cycle yeah if it's three times that way that is a period every seven days i don't know you know she probably can't live with husband anymore okay that there is a difference if she sees again a couple of vessels she should check during she should check during neither days because maybe she'll stop seeing and she'll start seeing again and then she's covering herself if she stopped seeing she has to check again but if she's flowing the seven days there's no point of checking why because once she is seeing already okay there's no there's no uh um there's no start of a cycle okay it depends on that what would everybody agree rather she sees the whole time so what's the point of checking yeah that's exactly what we said in our mission neither does not have to check if she's seeing straight isn't the case that on the third day again so there's two sheets over here i've had to explain this awesome okay so the one way of saying it is let's say the first two times okay she saw with that that is the start of the vessel and then the third time was within the yemeni nida okay and that i think also today i'll call myself they when you can't vest if she's already if someone has a vestus kavu for aleph or let's say hey okay and then she saw in hay and then she saw in her again the third time she's already on dallas okay is he considered her bestest or not okay is that because that's considered that the third time is considered a mayan password meaning the police are already a day earlier okay the question is now is hey considered she's seeing now but that's also available okay i said there is malaysia's different sheets of there how you count the vestis so that that's the question if she sees blood on the same date that she saw the previous two times but it didn't start on that day okay that is considered in my own persuasion okay and my ancesto means that all the times she saw that is the first day okay so that that's the one she take is playing that way second she depends on what days she saw to see whoever wants to go deeper into it right she brings us a little bit hard to understand the second one she can have a five-day vessel does not have to check daily is someone who is during the during may damto meaning past day seven and past day fourteen of her birth depending on if it's a boy or girl says we're talking about a woman on day seven after having a boy or on day 14 after having a girl that she wants to start her days of her blood damn toyer says she starts bleeding after birth she could bleed now for two months straight looks the same thing tara says from now on it's to her until now it's coming so in this case it goes fine she doesn't have to check herself to see any difference between the days before damn toya and the days of damtar but hello my name according to levy who says it's two different flows the first flow is damn tommy we have to wait and see that that case did that she does have to check dilma akati like she has to make sure that the first seven or 14 days stopped and now we have this new flow of blood so she doesn't have to check either on day 7 or day 14 depending if it's a boy or girl okay so what does levy tell us why do we see now michelle that we don't have to check this goes according to bashar right the best says only one flow and there's no change and snap between the two and the the mishna is stops but doesn't matter tell us you know it's not like so could you say it says you're right this goes according to me but we know that this is time if this is islam and then there's a macholic yes we'll see right in the gemara there is a much like yes over there we don't go according to so we're not worried that the mission of brought stamp and saying that allah really is not like with shaman so that's answer number one how lazy could answer our mishna that someone who wants to sit on damtaya doesn't have to the same says we're talking about a woman that knows she's already doing in my torah she did a check that there's a difference depending according to labor she didn't do a question doesn't make a difference oh yeah we're talking about someone who is already doing you may tell her she doesn't have to check anymore because she is during the ema tour era chef is my memory of course not what's the difference if she doesn't make a difference she's star whatever blush she's going to see she's starting well what's the point why should we think she should have to check says the gemara i'm out there talking to the democrats i would think that she will see again blood during me toy hair she would do a new vessel why because she stopped during these yemeni toy and then she started again anuraya maybe that would be a new vested yeah okay we have the days of yemen torah right she stopped seeing her in the email yeah and now maybe she's gonna start seeing again and then she'll be covering so i would think she'd have to check and be covered from a flow that is tor to a flow that is tame we not go even if she sees during these you may toy her that is not cover vessels meaning if she sees towards the end of the you may toy her okay and then 30 days later she sees again and in 30 days she sees again it's not considered she saw three times because the first time she saw during you may turn are not considered for business that's right it's not counted for your business okay it says in tomorrow another way around that goes very well according to levy that says that's two different flows and it doesn't go from tommy to taha from tara to thomas so that's very good that's why the tar is one separate thing and you don't it doesn't go together according to relate to rav that says that it is one flow maybe she could still see and then it's the new riya either it's a different new start so come on now as we said to have a little make to makeover as we said no even though it's one flow it doesn't count together meaning if she's still doing yume tahara it doesn't it's not count number one for vessels um we said that she has to check herself every time she is with her husband who except for someone who is with them or a basula says marathon awesome teenicus oh so that's the question how long that's exactly the question of the gemara now how long is the blood that she sees we worry that is basilium and not a radio an old person older person stops stopped okay what about that does to check herself anymore so that's what we saw earlier country have blasted that's the mulberries gainer that's what we saw right before and awesome okay a five-year-old girl not time for her to see and she got married we give her four nights that when she is with her husband even though she sees blood that blood we consider my name says basila no even more than that no because we know it's a kind it's a wound it's a it's a it's a cut whatever it is then she's muted to be with her husband until it's cured meaning if it continues bleeding the whole time she is allowed to be with him what does he say he says like this what bacillus said that we wait until it heals is only that she was with her husband every single time and every single time she was with him she saw blood and then in such a case the success mustache anytime she sees blood we still say that it is from the basulin but if she was afterwards one time with her husband and she did not see blood then we say no the damn bissellium is gone finished i she saw now again blood now she is tommy yeah and nothing to do with days yeah they're going to be still it doesn't go it had nothing to do with time it has to do with the healing process okay if a knight went and she wasn't amish and then she saw blood without tashmesh she still tell me why because what she saw now is not because of the attachment every day that she was with her husband okay and she saw blood during tashmish so the next day even if she sees blood with attachments during the day we say the dumb bison why because she was with husband that aggravated the the the wound and the blood kept on coming but if she was one night with advertisement there was no attachment to the the the the basilan weren't aggravated so the blood that she sees the next day already we say it's in it's regular blood and she is tummy we don't say dumbbells anymore here's a silly question is that how we process it no no no no today as soon as she's his first time she's coming [Music] remarkably in all directions no no here we talking about only someone who did not start the the period we said okay [Music] if the color of or the look of the blood has changed meaning that when the first night because of the ambassador the color was this kind of a shade and then the next day or two days later whatever it is we see that it's a different shade we say it's not that basil anymore and she is coming because that's right because we say yeah we say blood it's a different blood and she is tummy [Music] so we just said that basula doesn't have to check why because blood is to her right so according to rav guido let's say that if the blood changes the color changes she's tommy why am i why doesn't she have to check the dilemma if we say that if the blood changes even though it still continued day after day she's still coming why do we say now mishna that she doesn't have to check she should check to see that the same color blood only in such a case she is allowed but if the color of the blood changes then she's not allowed hey malaysia when we said at the beginning of the mishnah okay that the women have to check morning and evening what do we say okay we mentioned only nida and someone who is sitting on damtara we didn't mention why only by beer being with her husband she has to check but for taharis as we're going to see soon she doesn't have to check abasula sorry the other way around being with her husband she doesn't have to check but for them for taharis she does have to check so we see that there's akasha so what are we going to have to answer so what's the difference in the say for that it says she doesn't have to be mashamish when she's with us she doesn't have to check why because she was mishamished we worry that the color because of the shimmers the color of the blood changes so you can't get to see if the if it's the same color blood as was the same the first body in the ratio when he's talking about the test with paris it's talking about there was nothing she does have to check to make sure that there's no bleeding yes she doesn't check to make sure that the color changes yeah but why she doesn't need to check just to make she doesn't see because if she doesn't see mahmoutash me she say that after that if she says it's just male so she needs to check you know that she sees them otherwise if she doesn't see them she is just playing after good question i don't know it has to be continuous no otherwise it's a new girl i don't know tanya ramirez i don't prepare as much as long as ellie does so a lot of questions will not have answers i apologize when do we say that any blood that she sees is adam basulim we're talking about that she saw every time she was meshamish and then she saw even if she wasn't ashamed meaning at night she was masham she saw and the the next day she saw even during the day we say it's because of don bastille as we said previously but if she stopped seeing because of taj mish and the next day she saw she's maya because we say have nothing to do with the taj mahal anymore uh the same as we said earlier if one day she did not miss with her husband we say it healed and the next day seeing blood has nothing to do with don basulin as we said before okay so he said in the mishnah she has to check every single day when twice in the morning and in the evening and when she's misshamish with her husband what it says that she has to check morning and evening ella taharis we're talking about a woman who is busy with taharis she wants to keep the things that she's doing with tahara so she has to check in the morning and the evening avalaballa a woman who's stamped not dealing with tahara's stomach she wants to be with her husband moteris she doesn't have to worry okay before she's in shaman she does not have to check herself says murphy of course we're talking about taharis because it says over here that she checks in the morning in the morning the only reason to be checking is for taharis she's not checking in order to be with a husband because you're not supposed to be missed during the day so the check that you do in the morning has to be there it's talking about taharis ella eat man no it's talking about the safer whether it's at the end if she's already checking herself to make sure that she's doing working with tahara if she wants to be with her husband she also has to check herself but a woman who's not i sit with her she doesn't have to check herself stamina says she does not have to check herself before she is with her husband that she's checking herself she has to check herself also to be with her husband it's just one check he doesn't do two checks before and after yeah but i mean it's two times three times it's only for taharis if she's busy with taharis then she also has to check herself when she wants to be with a husband what also to continue being with tahara she checks before to make sure that she's taught her and afterwards to make sure it's not becoming dominant it's a stringency went to harness before what it's not just for the taharis if she is already doing certain harassment that's a lotion of the gemara because we told that she's doing it for taharis she does it also for being with her husband [Music] the clock the next morning when it's live that's a whole new day whether you could look at it at night yeah yeah she says she only checks the clock in the morning where in the next mission okay right and uh they say it as well right so therefore the the check she's doing before is not to see whether she's much perhaps so what is it for cars that she did before she has to do before yeah okay okay says igamaru michael marshmallon what is the kidush that a woman does not have to check herself stamina before she is with her husband tanino have a mission we have a mishna that a woman is always bakaska tahara and she does not have to check herself before and after tashmesh says the the gemara no evie must have amino honey someone who has a vest so all other days she doesn't have to worry about anything she's because i've alicia in the vessels but a woman who does not have a vest maybe every single day or every time she has to worry maybe now she got her period so maybe she does have to check even to be with her husband even without being bitaro that's why we need the kiddish of shmuel who says only if she's busy with tahar she has to check but if not she's because of her husband says bishop that's talking about the these checks we're talking about issues for business right that's what we're talking about the whole time so why why should we think that what more says is better even though she does have a vest and she knows that now is not her time for seeing right she has a kava vessel she sees everywhere even though now it's the middle of the month and she knows that she usually doesn't see the commercial vessels that is the kiddish that even though she has a vessel she knows that now is not the time for her to see affilohaki if because she has to check for taharis miguel that she has to check for tara she has to check also for her husband says a woman who does not have a vessel is not allowed to be charged with her husband until she checks and what do we say what are we talking over there volcano base only in a case where she's busy with tahar she has to check marshmallow that she's not busy with tara she's motor and she doesn't have to check says one was said straight out that she doesn't have to check and one was learned from the other eat martian only when he left the house and she was vegeta so even if he comes back a few days later she's told because saharan is allowed to be with her abalone until she tells him that she is thank you