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Niddah Daf 11 By R' Menachem Mateh
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okay good morning everybody that viewed
out live
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okay so we saw in the mishnah
that if
meaning it wasn't a standard period it
was because
of something that happened so she stole
dia chateau and she stole mitana only
from now on on
and not backwards says the gemara amma
kafsa vasakov what happens
if she jumped and then
she saw blood and then again 30 days
later
she did the same thing on the same day
she jumped and
she saw blood because of that day slash
jumping
doesn't make a difference
what kind of investors would she go
there what is the message because we
have here two things
we have here a specific date and we have
here a specific
action says
if we're gonna say it's because the day
is
like we know and we see that if she
doesn't do this
jump whatever it is she doesn't see so
we can't say that it's just
the day that is the cover the vest says
ella look food
no it's the jumping that is the bestest
meaning that if she jumps even though
she doesn't see it
she has to worry about it and she has to
check herself she's also that day
etcetera
says
i feel comfortable cover versus we know
that
if they want to be cover a vessel
according to an ins meaning an action
that causes this scene of the blood even
if she did it
several times you not go there versus my
live local versus cloud
must mind that you can't because they
are avestas at all
due to an action
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light cover
no what it means like of a vessel
when it says meaning it's not covered
for days on their own
or for the jumps on their own
is for the two of them together meaning
that if on a specific day
when she jumps she sees and then again
30 days later the same thing
she jumps and she sees in that same day
and then for three times
she covered vessels for the day and the
jump
meaning if she see if the day comes and
she didn't jump she's not closer to the
business
if she just jumps on any other day she's
also naked
it's the combination of the two things
sizzix
for the days on her own of course not
we just said that the only reason that
she saw was she jumped
meaning that on that same day if she
didn't jump
she didn't see so what what's the hadith
this is a very interesting case he's
going to confess
she jumped on
all the way from the peanut gallery
okay she jumped on on a sunday
and she saw it they covered and then 30
days later she jumped on a sunday again
and she saw again and then 30 days later
the shabbos scuffs of the
she jumped on the shabbos before that
sunday and she didn't see
her and then on sunday
she saw but there was no jump so now the
uh i taiwanese think by rehearsing on
sunday without
doing this jump so this proves to us
that the reason she saw is because of
the date and nothing to do with the jump
kamash milan defeats me the admiral
gomer
no what she saw today was also because
of the jump of yesterday
yesterday after she jumped
so she jumped a bit early so we see
again it's the combination of the day
and to jump together that is what is
covered
a specific vessel if she didn't jump at
all would she not have seen a period is
that what we're saying
because there's no donation that makes
her that makes her cool
good question i don't know what's the
cause you're asking yeah i don't know
yeah
how far back how i don't know what
happens if she doesn't see that sunday
the next day she jumps
if she pushes that day i don't know
you have homework i want an answer
tomorrow
lish nakarina
okay the same ideas we just saw just a
little bit
different versus
if she jumped and she saw and then 30
days later she jumped and she saw her 30
days later she jumped and she saw she's
covered herself a versus
for days and not for the jump says how
could that be we just said
right we understood yeah this is it's as
if we're saying this before we said well
we just
previous version of the combination it's
not making that
only if only
only the days that's what angmar is
understanding so now is going to
explain what are we talking about um
what is it basically it's a parenthesis
that you skip out
she sees on a sunday we're jumping she's
in another we're jumping
in this kind of a case she's called
there are vessels for days
only not with the jump why
the hassan igle milsa diamond
because on the third sunday she sees
without a jump that proves to us
that the twice before that she saw the
reason that she saw was just because of
the days and nothing to do
with the jump okay it's very interesting
here you see
in both places it has the the shabbos
one is the squares parentheses one is a
circle parentheses
okay one you're supposed to read out or
not okay
oh
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so we just said in the mishnah
that these women
a woman that has a vest as kavua okay
she doesn't worry if she sees blood she
doesn't worry backwards
she always worries from now on so the
mission
again what this is no this is the vessel
someone has the verses
nothing to do with it no so whether the
specific day and specific date
she sees so she doesn't have to worry uh
from
when she sees backwards okay so says the
mishnah
even though we said meaning that she
starts
being tummy from now on and not
backwards
she still has to check herself every day
we'll see in a minute
when and we'll see the gemara invite
there also
why okay so she still has to check
except we'll see anyone talks about it
except for someone who is already a nida
she's a tom anita so she doesn't have to
check again and we're going to discuss
why would we think that she does and why
not very chevy someone who is
seeing blood but it's a to her blood
meaning which is
after she gives birth so she's
um she's tummy for the first either a
week or two weeks depending if it's a
boy or girl
and then afterwards there's a period of
damn toyah meaning that all the time
that she sees then
is considered of tahara so she doesn't
have to check because we're not worried
that
a dumb tummy is going to come in that
time um
now this is a new take on except for
checking she has to be misha
every time she's in the champs with her
husband she has to check herself
before and after the shemosh
okay for two reasons first of all that
she should know if she's allowed to be
with her husband and second of all if
casper
after what she finds then they had to
bring carbon
because she wasn't either the same idea
or someone that has a damn toy her
already even though she's seeing blood
she's to her she's allowed to be with
her husband there's no point of checking
someone who is absurd will see negama
invited the first four
days in certain ways she is still taught
her even though she's seeing blood so
she doesn't have to check
before shimosh
and what we said at the beginning of the
mishnah that she still has to check
she has to take check twice shakes the
banishment she has to check in the
morning and evening
in the morning to make sure that she
didn't see throughout the night and that
she could start working with the hires
today
and then in the evening to see that all
she did in the past day everything is
okay
um and when she wants to be with her
husband
she also has to check herself to make
sure that she is
taught yesterday so this is all talking
about regular women
kahana is a woman that who's a kaihan or
married talk
and she eats trauma so she they have to
check
even more but shall she not it's not
enough that they check
in the morning and evening when they
come to each rumor they also have to
check themselves to make sure that they
don't eat
tremor
she he says not not only before you eat
also when
they're finished eating the same idea as
we said every time
that's right period yeah
okay nightmare is going to talk about
here exactly what we're talking how are
we talking about yes
okay so we said in the mishnah
that the nida doesn't have to check
twice a day
says
in the first seven days that she sees
that she's called anita
she does not have to check to see if
she's still seeing or not
says
what happens if she sees for two days
and then she stops for two days and then
she sees again and she covers herself a
vessel of four days
right she saw on day one she saw day one
and day two
she saw blood i need this then she
stopped for two days three and four she
didn't see
and then on day five she sees again is
that
a new vest is that a new cycle a new
period
it's part of the seven days that's the
muscles okay so what happens if she sees
she has that kind of thing
in the ziva days yeah we have neither
days of seven
okay and then you may ziva is 11 days
after that
if she sees again in the ema zeva we do
start a new cycle
okay that's she see that's a different
thing okay we're talking about here
cycles
right so if she sees again in the zebra
days
she starts a new cycle that everybody
agrees now what happens if she sees
again
she stopped the blood and then she
started it again
is that considered a new cycle or not so
according to rabbi shimon bin lakish
he says ishaq vasily vs misaki mezivasa
as we said
in the days of ziva she is says
abba
during the days of neither she doesn't
start a new cycle so that's good
that's why she doesn't have to check it
doesn't make a difference
what that's part of the seven days yeah
it's not a new cycle so there's no point
of her checking again
right she stole blood now for seven days
she doesn't have to worry about anything
it doesn't matter if she stops and she
sees
and she sees again it's all considered
one
thing that happens from day 8 to 11.
that's right then it's a new cycle
it's 8
no that's what we just said the amazi
you restart the cycle
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goes fine that's why she doesn't have to
check
because it doesn't make a difference to
us if she stops if she sees again
same thing
that says that we could start a new
cycle within
the you may need uh technically what
does that mean i don't really understand
because it means
that she's gonna have a vessel every
four days every five days she starts
counting the new seven yeah
that's what i'm saying yes no not of
needles
of vessels a cycle right we have the
whole what's this whole vest this thing
this whole second is is a cycle yeah if
it's three times that way
that is a period every seven days i
don't know you know she probably can't
live with husband anymore
okay
that there is a difference if she sees
again
a couple of vessels she should check
during
she should check during neither days
because maybe she'll stop seeing
and she'll start seeing again and then
she's covering herself
if she stopped seeing she has to check
again
but if she's flowing the seven days
there's no point of checking
why because
once she is seeing already okay
there's no there's no uh um
there's no start of a cycle okay it
depends
on that what would everybody agree
rather she sees the whole time so what's
the point of checking
yeah that's exactly what we said in our
mission neither does not have to check
if she's seeing straight
isn't the case that on the third day
again so there's two sheets over here
i've had to explain
this awesome okay so the one way of
saying it is
let's say the first two times okay she
saw
with that that is the start of the
vessel
and then the third time was within the
yemeni nida
okay and that i think also today i'll
call myself they when you can't vest
if she's already if someone has a vestus
kavu for
aleph or let's say hey okay and then
she saw in hay and then she saw in her
again the third time she's already on
dallas
okay is he considered her bestest or not
okay is that because that's considered
that the third time is considered a
mayan password meaning
the police are already a day earlier
okay the question is now is hey
considered
she's seeing now but that's also
available okay i said there is
malaysia's different sheets of there how
you count the vestis
so that that's the question if she sees
blood on the same date that she saw the
previous two times
but it didn't start on that day okay
that is considered in my own persuasion
okay and my ancesto means that all the
times she saw
that is the first day okay so that
that's the one she take is playing that
way
second she depends on what days she saw
to see whoever wants to go deeper into
it right she brings
us a little bit hard to understand the
second one she can have a five-day
vessel
does not have to check daily is someone
who
is during the during may damto
meaning past day seven and past day
fourteen of her birth depending on if
it's a boy or girl
says
we're talking about a woman on day seven
after having a boy or on day 14 after
having a girl that she wants to start
her days of her
blood damn toyer says
she starts bleeding after birth she
could bleed now for two months straight
looks the same thing tara says from now
on it's to her
until now it's coming so in this case it
goes fine
she doesn't have to check herself to see
any difference between the days
before damn toya and the days of damtar
but hello
my name according to
levy who says it's two different flows
the first flow is damn tommy
we have to wait and see that that case
did that she does have to check dilma
akati like
she has to make sure that the first
seven or
14 days stopped and now we have
this new flow of blood so she doesn't
have to check
either on day 7 or day 14 depending if
it's a boy or girl
okay so what does levy tell us why do we
see now michelle that we don't have to
check
this goes according to bashar right the
best says
only one flow and there's no change and
snap between the two
and the the mishna is stops
but doesn't matter tell us
you know it's not like so could
you say it
says
you're right this goes according to me
but we know that this is
time if this is islam and then there's a
macholic yes we'll see right in the
gemara
there is a much like yes over there
we don't go according to so we're not
worried that the mission of brought
stamp
and saying that allah really is not like
with shaman
so that's answer number one how lazy
could answer our mishna
that someone who wants to sit on damtaya
doesn't have to the
same says
we're talking about a woman that knows
she's already doing in my torah
she did a check that there's a
difference depending according to labor
she didn't do a question doesn't make a
difference
oh yeah we're talking about someone who
is already doing you may tell her
she doesn't have to check anymore
because she
is during the ema tour era chef is my
memory of course not what's the
difference if she
doesn't make a difference she's star
whatever blush she's going to see she's
starting well what's the point
why should we think she should have to
check
says the gemara i'm out there talking to
the democrats
i would think that she will see
again blood during me toy hair she would
do a new vessel
why because she stopped during these
yemeni toy and then she started again
anuraya
maybe that would be a new vested
yeah okay we have the days of yemen
torah right
she stopped seeing her in the email yeah
and now maybe she's gonna start seeing
again and then she'll be covering
so i would think she'd have to check and
be covered
from a flow that is tor
to a flow that is tame we not go
even if she sees during these you may
toy her
that is not cover vessels meaning
if she sees towards the end of the you
may toy her
okay and then 30 days later she sees
again
and in 30 days she sees again it's not
considered she saw three times
because the first time she saw during
you may turn are not considered for
business
that's right it's not counted for your
business
okay it says in tomorrow another way
around
that goes very well according to levy
that says that's two different flows and
it doesn't go from
tommy to taha from tara to thomas so
that's very good
that's why the tar is one separate thing
and you don't it doesn't go together
according to relate to rav that says
that it is one flow
maybe she could still see and then it's
the new riya either it's a different
new start so come on now as we said
to have a little make to makeover as we
said no even though it's one flow
it doesn't count together meaning if
she's still doing yume tahara
it doesn't it's not count number one
for vessels
um we said that she has to check herself
every
time she is with her husband who
except for someone who is with them
or a basula says marathon awesome
teenicus oh so that's the question how
long
that's exactly the question of the
gemara now how long is the blood that
she sees we worry that is basilium and
not
a radio an old person older person stops
stopped okay what about that does
to check herself anymore
so that's what we saw earlier country
have blasted that's the mulberries
gainer that's what we saw right before
and awesome
okay a five-year-old girl not time for
her to see
and she got married
we give her four nights that
when she is with her husband even though
she sees blood
that blood we consider my name
says basila no even more than that
no because we know it's a kind it's a
wound it's a it's a
it's a cut whatever it is then she's
muted to be with her husband until it's
cured meaning if it continues bleeding
the whole time
she is allowed to be with him
what does he say he says like this what
bacillus said that we wait
until it heals is only
that she was with her husband every
single time and every single time she
was with him she saw blood
and then in such a case the success
mustache anytime she sees
blood we still say that it is from the
basulin
but if she was afterwards one time with
her husband and she did not see blood
then we say no the damn bissellium is
gone finished
i she saw now again blood now she is
tommy yeah and nothing
to do with days yeah they're going to be
still it doesn't go
it had nothing to do with time it has to
do with the healing process
okay if a knight went
and she wasn't amish and then she saw
blood
without tashmesh she still tell me why
because what she saw now is not because
of the attachment every day
that she was with her husband okay and
she saw blood during tashmish so the
next day even if she sees blood with
attachments during the day
we say the dumb bison why because she
was with husband that aggravated
the the the wound and the blood kept on
coming but if she was one night
with advertisement there was no
attachment to the the the
the basilan weren't aggravated so the
blood that she sees the next day already
we say it's in it's
regular blood and she is tummy
we don't say dumbbells anymore here's a
silly question is that how we process
it no no no no
today as soon as she's his first time
she's coming
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remarkably in all directions
no no here we talking about only someone
who did not start the the
period we said
okay
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if the color
of or the look of the blood has changed
meaning that when the first night
because of the ambassador the color was
this kind of a shade and then the next
day or two days later whatever it is
we see that it's a different shade we
say it's not that basil anymore
and she is coming because that's right
because we say yeah we say
blood it's a different blood and she is
tummy
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so we just said
that basula doesn't have to check why
because blood is to her right
so according to rav guido let's say that
if the blood changes the color changes
she's tommy
why am i why doesn't she have to check
the dilemma if we say that if the
blood changes even though it still
continued
day after day she's still coming why do
we say now mishna that
she doesn't have to check she should
check to see that the same color blood
only in such a case she is allowed but
if the color of the blood changes then
she's not allowed
hey malaysia when we said at the
beginning of the mishnah
okay that the women have to check
morning and evening what do we say
okay we mentioned only nida and someone
who
is sitting on damtara we didn't mention
why only by beer being with her husband
she has to check
but for taharis as we're going to see
soon she doesn't have to check
abasula sorry the other way around
being with her husband she doesn't have
to check but for them
for taharis she does have to check so we
see that there's akasha
so what are we going to have to answer
so what's the difference in the say for
that it says she doesn't have to be
mashamish
when she's with us she doesn't have to
check why because she was mishamished
we worry that the color because of the
shimmers the color of the blood
changes so you can't get to see if the
if it's the same color blood
as was the same the first body in the
ratio when he's talking about
the test with paris it's talking about
there was nothing
she does have to check to make sure that
there's no bleeding
yes
she doesn't check to make sure that the
color changes yeah but why she doesn't
need to check
just to make she doesn't see because if
she doesn't see mahmoutash me she say
that
after that if she says it's just male
so she needs to check you know that she
sees them
otherwise if she doesn't see them she is
just playing after good question i don't
know
it has to be continuous no otherwise
it's a new girl
i don't know tanya ramirez i don't
prepare
as much as long as ellie does so a lot
of questions will not have answers
i apologize
when do we say that any blood that she
sees is adam basulim
we're talking about that she saw every
time she was meshamish
and then she saw even if she wasn't
ashamed meaning at night she was masham
she saw and the the next day she saw
even
during the day we say it's because of
don bastille as we said previously
but if she stopped seeing because of taj
mish and the next day
she saw she's maya because we say have
nothing to do with the taj mahal anymore
uh the same as we said earlier if one
day she did not miss
with her husband we say it healed and
the next day seeing blood has nothing to
do with don basulin
as we said before okay so he said in the
mishnah
she has to check every single day when
twice
in the morning and in the evening and
when she's misshamish with her husband
what it says that she has to check
morning and evening
ella taharis we're talking about a woman
who is busy with taharis she wants to
keep the things that she's doing
with tahara so she has to check in the
morning and the evening
avalaballa a woman who's stamped not
dealing with tahara's
stomach she wants to be with her husband
moteris
she doesn't have to worry okay before
she's in shaman she does not have to
check herself
says murphy
of course we're talking about taharis
because it says over here that she
checks in the morning
in the morning the only reason to be
checking is for taharis
she's not checking in order to be with a
husband because you're not supposed to
be missed during the day
so the check that you do in the morning
has to be there it's talking about
taharis
ella eat man no it's talking about the
safer whether it's at the end
if she's already checking herself to
make sure that she's doing working with
tahara
if she wants to be with her husband she
also has to check herself but a woman
who's not i sit with her she doesn't
have to check herself
stamina says she does not have to check
herself before she is
with her husband
that she's checking herself she has to
check herself also to be with her
husband
it's just one check he doesn't do two
checks before and after
yeah but i mean it's two times three
times
it's only for taharis if she's busy with
taharis
then she also has to check herself when
she wants to be with a husband
what also to continue being with tahara
she checks before to make sure that
she's taught her and afterwards to make
sure it's not becoming dominant
it's a stringency went to harness before
what
it's not just for the taharis if she is
already doing certain harassment that's
a lotion of the gemara
because we told that she's doing it for
taharis she does it also
for being with her husband
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the clock the next morning when it's
live
that's a whole new day whether you could
look at it at night yeah yeah
she says she only checks the clock in
the morning where
in the next mission okay right and
uh they say it as well right so
therefore the
the check she's doing before is not to
see whether she's much
perhaps so what is it for
cars that she did before she has to do
before
yeah okay
okay says igamaru michael marshmallon
what is the kidush
that a woman does not have to check
herself stamina
before she is with her husband tanino
have a mission
we have a mishna that a woman is always
bakaska tahara and she does not
have to check herself before and after
tashmesh
says the the gemara no evie must have
amino honey
someone who has a vest so all other days
she doesn't have to worry about anything
she's because
i've alicia in the vessels
but a woman who does not have a vest
maybe every single day or every time
she has to worry maybe now she got her
period
so maybe she does have to check even to
be with her husband even without being
bitaro
that's why we need the kiddish of shmuel
who says
only if she's busy with tahar she has to
check but if not she's because of her
husband
says bishop
that's talking about the these checks
we're talking about issues for business
right that's what we're talking about
the whole time so why why should we
think
that what more says is better
even though she does have a vest and she
knows that now is not her time for
seeing
right she has a kava vessel she sees
everywhere even though now it's the
middle of the month and she knows that
she usually doesn't see
the commercial vessels
that is the kiddish that even though she
has a vessel
she knows that now is not the time for
her to see affilohaki
if because she has to check for taharis
miguel that she has to check for tara
she has to check also
for her husband says
a woman who does not have a vessel is
not allowed to be charged with her
husband until she checks
and what do we say what are we talking
over there volcano base
only in a case where she's busy with
tahar she has to check marshmallow
that she's not busy with tara she's
motor
and she doesn't have to check says
one was said straight out that she
doesn't have to check
and one was learned from the other
eat martian
only when he left the house and she was
vegeta so even if he comes back
a few days later she's told because
saharan is allowed to be with her
abalone
until she tells him that she is
thank you