Daf Yomi Zevachim Daf 69 by R' Eli Stefansky

My heart [singing] go. Welcome. Welcome to all the guests. Who's a guest here today? >> What's your name? >> From where? >> Brooklyn. >> You're like a like a real deal Brooklyner. >> You're born in Brooklyn. >> Born and raised. >> Wow. I love that. You know, I lived most of my life in Brook. Well, not anymore. Used to be most of my life. What's your name? Tell >> from from Petraika. He's the guy that runs the Petikva. [applause] [cheering] >> Very nice. Who else do we have here? Quick, >> this one. >> What's your name? >> Michael Mandle >> from >> West Hamstead. >> West Hamstead, New York. >> West, New York. >> New York. West Ham. >> English version of the five counts. >> Who else? >> Over here. >> Whoa. Whoa. What's your name? from >> what's your name? >> Toronto. >> Toronto. It's like half the's guest today. >> Who? >> You. You're not so new. >> I came a few times. >> Yeah. What's your name? >> You love you love. Okay. Thank you for coming. Where do you live? >> Somebody's hiding behind you. I don't know who. Say it. >> What's your name? here everyone. >> You hear everyone not with those glasses though. >> All right. Who else? >> What's your name? >> From Chicago. >> Chicago. Oh, really? That's your father? The guy used to do real estate. I think he came a little bit to my sh like 20 years ago in the beginning when I gave that. He was one of the first. Wow. How's he doing? >> Sal regards. And the father of is here. What's your name? Cyber Maztov, you're making a the vert is right now 8:00 it started and instead 8:44 he's here doing that's the way to do it. [applause] We have a little surprise. We we're in a big rush because we have the Hebrew Shir but we have this beautiful beautiful really it's really really nice. So you have a good you have a decent English. >> I understand. I'm not speaking very good. [snorts] >> We need we need to understand not you. >> I need to speak very good. >> All right. So he has two minutes here. Let's see what you got. I don't know if you can zoom in on this. It's really really nice quality. I like the not painted on. It's supposed to light up even. >> Wow. Look at the effect. >> It has smoke coming out. I don't know if you noticed. There's a little smoke actually coming out right now as we speak. >> It's not a vape. Take it easy. Step in. [laughter] >> Okay. He's saying 62 instead of 64. supposed to be 32 + 32. But trydation They have to they have to remove all the the coals from the in the middle and they put in the >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Mhm. foreign. [clears throat] Okay. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. goes on the vict. Okay. >> [snorts] >> Who's the lion? Okay. is a C. [snorts] cabbage. Supreme You should call it a [laughter] There's an old 93 silver vessels on these two marble and that's what they put the on Cold off the meat. Yeah. There's a bunch mound of salt in the middle of the middle of the ramp. also here. Okay. [cheering and applause] really show our little guy for a second. >> [laughter] >> Okay. Wow. [laughter] We can improve this. Anybody good with their hands? We got to We got We'll make it a little nicer. Okay, boy. Wow. Okay, so we don't have a lot of time and I don't we're barely going to finish uh today's daf or yesterday's daf. Let's see what we got here. So, real quickly, first of all, I have to say it's starting to fill up. We're we're aiming for another like $75,000 and we're well on our way. So, here's a brand new guy for $15,000. Anonymous is um Little Shishi Wars at the USA Sheer Watch locations. East Coast versus West Coast. Staten Island. Look what Staten Island. Look at Look at this with the meat. Don't get hungry. This is coming out here in Torah anytime. Bringing more people to the to anytime. I got to say thank you. We have thousands of you a day. I don't know how many like four or 5,000 by Torah anytime a day. >> [applause] >> Um, unfortunately I'm not going to read emails because of everything that's going on over here. So, you know what? We'll just jump into I'm going to show the emails so you could see that I really have emails, but I'm not reading them here. [clears throat] Oh, so sponsored by David Solomon dedicated memory of anonymous capital in our friends for devotion to study and this year an MDY coffee corner with hearts full of gratitude. on my wife's recovery. Wow. I don't know the story, but it sounds great. Monthly sponsors anonymous Jacobs for [clears throat] nobody else. Anonymous, please for the world's best dad, Aron Benoro. Weekly sponsors Weissman anonymous by anonymous in memory of anonymous Alan Khan in memory of my mother Aram daily sponsors anonymous maztov engagement of Effie Vogel to Simma green daughter of fellow MD wire green maztov wow this I did not see I did not see this here >> who's green maz wow >> you look young is this your first First, >> listen. This is a kiss from Hashem. This is the first time I saw this. I'm wearing the tie that the first time I'm ever wearing this tie. Abberren bought me this tie. It's one of the quandichi cuz I like kundichi. He knows it. You can't buy them anymore. They don't sell them. I guess he got one somewhere. I don't know where. Brand new in a box. >> 1987. >> It could be. >> I don't care when it is. It's quichi. I wear kundichi. >> Oh, no, no, no, no. [laughter] The ones they sold last year brand new and were paisley. Yeah. Yeah. That's uh you got to get with it. Yonathan Hill Renard Yonathan Hill some somebody else Elan but I wasn't sure if it's Yoi Elan or Yoni. I think it's Yoili but it said Yoni um sent me. It was perfect timing because my my son invited his friends from Zisha. Told my wife my friends are coming. I think she knew I seven guys show up for Shabas and uh this Elan guy says Yonyi but I think it's you sent something from crunch from just like three types of schnitles with all these sauces whoever you are I'll find out exactly but it was Gishmak you know like it added to the guys plus we had zis you know you know zisan in honor of my incredible parents they should be blessed with many grandchildren amen and anonymous here in the house today. Thank you for coming. Here we go. Let me ask you a question. What do you guys think? You're new. No. Someone like that. Okay. Before we start, >> whatondon? >> Oh, you're talking to me on this microphone. If you get power, I need to be able to talk to from my house. So, what do we have? London. >> London. >> And who else? >> Manchester. >> London and Manchester. Wow. Shalom, guys. Beautiful. Beautiful. >> Satellite locations. Hashem, we're planning a trip to to to the UK. I don't know when, but we gota we got to get there again. >> Um, a question I have for the if performs malika, does the malika have the power like a typical malika? So, we spoke about a malika, you do malik, you go through the neck and you find out that it's a traa and we're going to see, but let's say you forget that you do malika, you did in the wrong place in the mikdash and the carbon is possible. But we said the malika helps that the tuma leaves the it doesn't there's no tuma on the animal. What if he is performs the malik? Does it have the same power that there's no tum in the animal? What do you guys say? >> It doesn't have a power. What if instead of doing what if instead of doing malik you use a knife to do the malik? Does it have the power to remove the toma? >> No. A cayenne instead of using his fingernail uses a knife you say no. >> What if you do leak outside of the base of mdash? Does it have the power? No. Everything no. Is there anything? Yes. >> No. >> So for that we need to see the Mishna. There are things that are yes and there are things that are no. Callimu all the people that are possible. We have to see what it means. All the people that are possible. So let's say oh by the way but have no fear because >> the are here exactly is here. Take a look at I don't know if you can see it on your phone but it's only two lines. It's one of these ammud that the bellser's wife knows about. She always says I want to learn Ahmed B. He gives her one of these. No problem. Here we go. Oh, I was supposed to show this. Oh, that's in the next year. I'll show it. Okay. That that thing that you sent me from perode. I saw it from other people. He puts it on his status. I'll show perote status. I think it's called perodote. No. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I got it from him. I got it from you. I got it from a bunch of people. I got it from Who did I get it from? I don't even know. Anyway, >> sent it first. Yeah. Yeah. sent it first. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> So anyways, what's a possible for instance a guy that lost a parent that day? He's and he did some however it has the power. It still has enough in it. We consider it a malik to the point where this animal this bird is not to. So if you eat it typically eat a kosher bird that's that's an aa and if you perform a outside of it's an aa thea is it's an interesting one of a kind that you touch it nothing but if you put it in your your your mouth you're not an interesting question if you touch a cow that that was run over by a car you become tom if you pull it you become tommy what if you take a piece piece of meat. Somebody takes a piece of meat of a cow that's tummy and opens up your mouth with, you know, pliers and puts it in the back of your mouth. Do you become tummy? >> No. >> H >> you swallow it. Swallow it. You become tummy. >> That's what you say. You have so we'll see. We'll see. It's a only I'm going to hint only by a bird. If you take an available bird and you put in the back of your mouth, you become but if you touch it not both ways are that the fact that you touch it you don't become and the fact that you put it in the back of your mouth you do become what if a person does the malik with his left hand doesn't seem like such a bad thing you do it at night at night or you take a bird and you shed it inside she it with a knife inside with a knife or at the end of the day the has enough power to remove the tum whether you do it inside the basement outside the basement if you do in the toys how do you say in English >> slaughter house that's how we say it that's how the says it do they like to say slaughter house instead of toys >> I don't like slaughter like say like a man. Yeah. Slaughter house. >> Same people that say when's class tonight doesn't believe say slaughter house. The rest of us >> house. Oh fine. So has a power obviously. So even if you didn't you you were wrong for do with a chicken inside you shouldn't it still removes the toma and you should definitely not take a bird that's designated as an and take it outside and it did the has enough power to remove the the mak and here goes a whole another category use the knife that's not that's not that's nothing using a knife in the back side of the neck. That's no different than taking a gun and shooting in the back of the neck. >> Why is it called Malik? >> Cuz he did an action of Malika. It's the same action, but it's not Malika, right? It's not. It's the same thing. It just it's trying to tell you even though it's in the back of the neck, it's in the same spot as nothing. It's a sack. It's a knife. No good. name. If you performed malika on a nonchim bird, you took a bird who wasn't designated as anything and you did a malika on him. What did that uh Italian say? I'm going to do a malik on you. No, didn't he say malik? Now I'm confused. No, the guy in front of the garage told me, I'm going to do on you. That's what he said. I'm going to do Okay, fine. You don't know the story? Okay, different time. I touched the this Italian guy's bumper. Touched it cuz in New York that's the minig you just give it a little touch. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're not supposed that's and they they have these bumper things. Only in New York they sell it that you a bumper cover like so like a like a padding. So no when they do it. So I gave him a little touch. He comes out. He says, "Yo, Tony, what should we charge the guy?" Yo boss, uh 500. 500. Okay. 500. Listen, give me 500 bucks. I didn't scrap. Listen to me. 500 bucks. He says, "If you don't give me 500 bucks," I said, "I don't have any." He said, "Listen, okay, go home. Bring it back. I know where you live, and if you come back without giving me 500 bucks, I'm going to do a shookan on you." I never heard the word in my life, but I understood what it meant. I went home. I brought $500. I gave him $500. My father gave me the 500 bucks, gave it to him, and I'm still alive. [clears throat] The mice, the garage is still around. Probably know, you know, anybody from New York, the garage, they sell all these suits in the basement over there that >> the garage they it fell off the truck. >> They have, you know, $5,000 suits for $100. I don't know what happened. And just came cheap today. >> Okay, Tony, he still is outside over there. >> That's how he makes his money. people it's a whole I have no idea why I thought I was the middle I thought he said I'll do a malik on you so he did a malik of inside the terrible stuff or he did a malik on a on a kesh bird outside the bdash it doesn't work you have these birds the there's two types of birds. We have the young pigeons and the older doves. So if they're not old enough or the the pigeons are too old, the ugly ones or its foot fell off basically or it became blind. So very interesting. So the Rashi says over here look at Rashi it's missing a limb. Now missing a limb is different. We know that this very it's very hard to make a tra on a bird. But missing a limb is different. Why says and where do we have this? >> This week there's a there's a you don't bring nobody in the right mind is going to go to a king and say hey king I brought you a gift and give him a bird without a leg a blind bird. when we say that you know did you know that there's no male and female by birds there are but we don't care about it there's no such thing as has to be typically not by bird we don't check and there's no it doesn't have to be whole that's on cataracts but missing limb noon sorry means that it's wing dried out that its eye is blinded and its foot fell off. All these are not a good malika and therefore it's considered that you have an avail in front of you and you put a piece of meat of this bird in your mouth you become says the if what happened was in the the mdash regarding then even though it was the wrong thing you did it with your left hand or whatever you shouldn't have done it but it has the power to remove the tum let's say [clears throat] the the was in the body of the animal the body of the bird it doesn't have an eye this all these things it was too young too old then the doesn't work this is what we saw in the left hand at night at least it has enough power to remove the but when you have a a or like it means and the knife says why what's the say the left hand has some power in it we see once in a while the kayen uses once a year he uses his left hand so it's not the end of the world left hand so may Allah Over here also we're going to say it's not the end of the world. And what about night? We know they throw the onto them even at night. Wait a minute. But we know that even a woman could could do in the mdash. So what's wrong with aar? Why? for the same he's saying that the the left and the night is okay because one time we we allow it. Oh, you know what? One time we allow to do says is not an I'll share with you the story because I said it I think in the Hebrew I just liked it a lot. It was for me when the briskov came to he was considered the galad. He had a time that his mar the only one like the galad when after was melt another came to visit him and people noticed that he wouldn't go in to see the brisket rough they said what's going on he says I'm waiting for everybody to leave so they oh you're waiting for everybody leave so they kicked everybody out and he went in but they said nobody could go he said I don't want anybody to come in say one ber who snuck in and hid like under the table something and this ber says what happened says, "Whatever." He says, "I brought you a sandwich. I figured that you're probably hungry. You just came from and you're seeing all these people for a long time. I brought you a sandwich." He says, "The the olives, it's olive sandwich." And the olives I took. Don't worry, I took it the highest level. Here's something to eat. I thought it's a great story. He says he's thinking about somebody else. Thinking what how's that person feeling right now? He's starving, but he's, you know, he's seeing people. He's going to say, "I'm starving. Stop. I brought you a sandwich anyway. And then I said, "Oh, what about that?" Without the we wouldn't have had the story. So sometimes it's good to be. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, says, "So what? You bring me a ride from says the it's not even I'll tell you anything. You have to do like that came told you the story drove four and a half hours each way, right? Can I tell you the story? Yes. Every chicken today needs a that means it's not an even if it's not how come she says it says in the we know that it says it's just a we don't know the reasons but it's it has to You know why you need a because it's for the upkeep. It's like it has a similar not it's not it's not it's a lesser called you need that makes no sense what you're saying is if like the lesser of the less which is the money for the upkeep of the of the of the of the mikdash or the temple as some of you guys are going to call it the slaughter house the temple certainly what do So certainly for the Oh, we have somebody who gets saras. And how do you know if it's or not? You have to go to it could be but it has to be a he looks at he says you go go it's not considered we have a little video for you guys I don't know if you're aware if you live under Iraq so there was a big um big deal here in I'm not going to get into it because I don't want to talk about it grosses me out but there's a a big uh uh verdict this week and here goes. >> I'm standing here by Punovich. Soon we'll tell you some hot lashon har you haven't yet heard regarding the behind the scenes of the arbitration ruling. What is wait what is this? He's not going to talk about theimb as why don't we learn from bama. Oh, so we have some new bombas. Actually, we did bama a few times. But nevertheless, there's bama. Actually, here's a real bama. They they claim it's a real bama. They found this, you know, thousand years old. Thousands. Bama is when they had there was a certain kufa certain time in where they didn't have the B mid you're allowed to to karatus in your backyard they found these stones they decided it's a bum it's okay it's in the museum of I don't know what here in Israel and also we have this bum of course Nice serve. Got it. Coming back at you. >> Hey, I told you don't mess. >> Okay. right there. I don't remember seeing that one before. Is it a [clears throat] The end is new. Okay. >> By the way, just the Malikica. So, this is new technology that came out on Friday in AI. I'm not kidding. Yoshi took a picture, a screenshot of me holding that fake pigeon shear and he was able to manipulate it so you could see. He was able to get the the feet right there. the wings over there and then the nail. He was able to control. It's like new new level of control in AI. It's very difficult to control and it's getting better. Here it is. >> Wow. No, no. ideas to get that he to start drawing and then telling him to hold a pigeon and with the he took it off a picture and then the rest he tell to do like anyway from let's learn from that what that there's no when you do with a [clears throat] say if I can't learn from why because there's no connection between Obama and Bama is considered like mundane like compared to the mid ask the famous video that if carbon went outside and you brought it back in and you put it on you don't take it off how I learn it because outside of mikdash and it's kosher so you see I do learn things from the bdash says the gmorra remember this answer because we're going to say it twice today. I hope if we ever get there, [snorts] no, I'm not learning from Obama. I'm learning from the Obama is just a great ex. It's like a it's an that's answer the main the main lima to learn is from a okay he says when is a it's good enough to get rid of the toma not like says and how does he learn it from but if you use a knife it's zero you made a that that makes sense No, using a knife like like Betty said, it's not malikica. I don't know what it is. It's it's you're making it a traan. We learned in the all what what does it all mean? All the guys that are apostle. Okay. So, not only but even who says that is not good. What does he do with the word call? What does call mean? What does it come to to add? It's interesting. Not a type of a person, but a type of malik with the left hand. A person does with his left hand or he does it at night. Even though it's possible no to it removes the if you look at the look at the and the goes on it's the second line in the so what are you telling me that the word means it's in the itself says you're right it does say it in the mishna but first it says it in in like the word call and then later on it it it um >> no I'm looking for it uh >> expands a little bit. Okay, fine. Whatever the word is says in the just to explain what this word means. is a very severe tuma. Meaning, typically speaking, if I touch a dead cow that was run over by a car, I become tame. My body becomes tummy, but my clothing not by a bird. So if you touch it, you don't become at all. But if you put it in your mouth, you become not only you become, but your clothing becomes that's a severe tumo. So that's what it means. So over here in this comes to explain might once again the same question what does it come to to do for according to doesn't remove the now we got to go in the reverse how would he explain the opposite it says if the the the problem wasn't inesh wasn't in what does it come to to to add the The if you a bird so over here we have to remember this idea they go together you remember this idea from the video if something goes under the certain things don't come off so if it doesn't come off that itself is like indication that there's no tum it's powerful enough if it goes on it doesn't come off doesn't come off meaning you remove the tum If you do of a chicken outside of that's mish killing it that's murder that's just that's making creating an aa and there is tommo hold on I think we have a video here h let's see what's this note something else Okay, we'll wait for later. Says I have like it says in the that's it. That's that's what we're looking for. That's the case that we're talking about. If it removes that's what it says at the end. But we're going to say a few more in between or somebody who's like Tom when it comes to pigle the guy thought about pigle and and it's left over and to even though you had a thought while you doing malik you thought about pigle and real quickly if it doesn't create a piggle then if it the malik is not good at all then it can't be piggle they're to z how can I make pigle if I take a gun and I shoot uh a cow And I think while I'm shooting him that I'm going to eat this cow in 5 days from now. Is that piggle? No. It has to be that has to be has to be. So if I do malika and I'm think oh I'm going to eat this in 5 days from now. Is it pigle? Well it depends. If the malik works then it's pigle. So here we're saying it must work in order for it to be pigle. It's and that's why saying it is good. The malik is good. It makes it pigle. and therefore removes the toma from this bird. I heard two things and I don't remember what I heard exactly what is I heard I heard about going into the going like this taking three fingers worth and making a out of and one I heard about performing one comes off the and one does it and I don't remember what if you had to guess which one is it which one could stay on the if it's one The two Israel doing a min or Israel doing >> milika is not hard to remove. >> Why? Oh, because physically it's a bunch of flower. No, they had a they had a Dyson over there. No, please. A broom. >> So, why would be >> what? What? What? >> So, maybe it's similar. >> Okay, I hear. So, let's see what it says. It makes sense. Like you're saying that should go off stays on why is different. Why? because I could do malik by so but but so I could do the same on my backyard in the time of when but if you're going to tell me no there is if there's no then there's no birds they're they're dependent on each other if you say there's no says there's If there's you don't bring then you don't bring a bird and if you do you do bring a bird and he brings it says so there's a maybe this is the original cuz it keeps on going. I remember he fixed that there's like 40 lbs of flour coming out of his head. Okay. The point is, stop right there. The point is since there's no vessel by Abama, obviously the guy in his backyard that has a little thing, he doesn't have a golden vessel. So doesn't passel, but if you do have biker, that's why a is different. But that that you could do by a bama outside is a is good. Don't bring me a riot from a show you real quickly this video. Um here we go. >> Why is it hold out? Oh, there's only there's only one in Hebrew. There's a very long line to bring the he has an idea shortcut. Stop the music. My lawyer again lawyer. Very nice. Okay. [applause] Okay. Where are we holding? Oh, we have to we have one minute to finish. It says in the that if you perform the with your left hand or at night, it removes the So it's interesting. Rashi here doesn't say this, but they bring a rashy savad over here on the side that says we're talking about a malik that's ple talking about. Okay. And they say that this is not the real rashi. This is the real rash. Okay. The point is okay. according to the the arch scroll and the mif they both bring this as the original that I would think that if you perform a a malik that's [clears throat] possible they put in they put in the word that's inside I think that you're that the it doesn't work and you become even your clothes become means exclude malik. It's only but maybe this is considered a because you performed apostle oh I'll throw out a a quick story very very quick a guy went to in America and he told him in Europe he told him he has this disease the roof told him you need to move to Israel he says so what connections have to disease he said because what you have is considered a traa according to the but they go according to the it's not a go there and of course he lives happily ever after more than 9 years 90 years says we learn from doesn't create a anything that's so is not mural She left but Malika which is inside it's able to be miser. Interesting. What does it matter? What does malika matter? If you think about it you have a kosher bird. What exactly does it matter? It's matter a live bird that goes on. If a live bird went on it would have to come off allows it to stay on and therefore it removes the tum of the mouth. Now means it says over here I'll bring the case of somebody who does malik and outside or somebody does malika on a non-carbon doesn't matter where he does it. [clears throat] If what happens if you put a bird, you take a regular bird and instead of doing you use your nail in the back of its neck, you take a chicken and you put it on the so it's not it doesn't have the power in that case in fact because again I told it's connected if you they have to come off the mb then they they have they have to they don't have to come off the mbah They don't have to something similar inside and outside think no only but doing like that creates an I learned from the word we're going to see Tomorrow also is extra word says and we learn there has to be they have to be symmetric if inside inside and outside have to be the same. So over here by both of them are also it doesn't matter if you have bring a tra in English they have to be equal and that comes to exclude mundane bird inside inside the mdash and inside and outside I don't think is going to explain what it means since they're not symmetric There's no what do you mean according we're going according to now the of a bird inside you can't say that the of the bird inside becomes tame why because outside is tar you hear if you sh the bird outside of mdash tar or tar and they have to be the same so if you do it inside of mdash it has to be tar they're not going to be equal. But when it comes to we're talking about birds, right? A bird that's both of them are puzzle. So both of them are puzzle. Why did you tell me a second ago they're not equal? They are equal. They're both puzzle. In other words, saying you must say that the is worth something. It does something. Why? Because if you take a if you an animal outside of the take a bird, you shove it outside of it bird. What's that? You outside you get carus. So how can you tell me that didn't do anything? It it worked. It worked enough to give you carus. So that means it works. So if it worked, so certainly certainly it should work to remove the the the from a veil. So and it continues That's that's a great outside. What about inside? Oh, because you have to make them symmetric. They have to be the same. So if you outside if you do sorry outside the bird outside it shouldn't be why because you have to they have to be symmetric and inside it's not why outside makes more sense to learn one thing that you did wrong from another thing that you did wrong rather than learning something that you did wrong from something you did right. In other words, cotton bird that wased inside not properly. What's that? That's that's right. Like >> Yeah, that's and and and if you shut it outside, that's inside. And you check the outside both of them are Now if you didn't if you didn't do oh but you cannot learn of outside from of of inside a bird that's inside that was from a bird that was outside and you don't learn something that's not a bird outside with that you that are inside which is ask real quickly you see you see you do something like that why is you did it wrong how do you know that you don't take it off but is kosher so you're learning something that's not kosher for something that's kosher how could that be and over here the say is the same exact answer you said before No, that I learned from a I'm bringing it right from a you're right it's kosher and you're learning something that's not kosher but that's just a not a real learning he's really relying on the not on the merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor a shir today mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com