Daf Yomi Succah Daf 19 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning rabboissai all the way from chicago from khadrov i was so desperate that i started recruiting my own sparca i begged my father-in-law to come just to say don't chap him anymore he said fine he will but i don't see him here and a source for comfort for the family of rome mayor farkavitz israel and stephen perlich on the other side of his father yeoman yeoman in memory of his mother one of the most unique emails received in a long time the author of this email is maisha feinstein guess who that is he was nifty writer of moisha this is a great grandson my name is maisha feinstein i'm barack hashem along with me but this is not going to be another email about how incredible you and your shir are although i will say that you have accomplished with the sheer and the lies you've changed is truly incredible anyways avatina i have a brother as a teenager i need some krizuka i made time to learn with him completely marcus in order to give him some encouragement i drove up to camp bishop of staten island while i was there i sat down to speak with my grandfather at ruben feinstein for a few minutes after he was done i have a conversation he said to me you're not going to believe this your voice you're not going to believe this i want you to check how many hits i have what it's referring to was the meaningful people podcast which you were episode 50 and my grandfather was episode 51. i told him that although i have an iphone the breast is blocked by my wife i can't check so we were eating at the cm barbecue my grandfather asked my father how many hits do i have my father responded that he had ten thousand do i have more than that other guy my grandfather asked who said my father stefanski you're not gonna beat stefanski he's at sixteen thousand my grandfather then asked how come his family isn't sitting there clicking on it hundreds of times to make him look good listen my mishpoch is larger than his bishbacha we got five thousand of us we can all go like this click click click click it doesn't work rabbi youtube knows how many clicks you do it's one per mishpocha i thought you would find this to be cute yes wow it's good to know how many hits i have last time i checked was a thousand unbelievable even i don't check how does she have time to check no i'm just kidding i check every five minutes schmoe bornstein so uh that's really uh second based on the emails that you read it sounds like your sense of humor leviticus style doesn't get fully appreciated over youtube clearly the in-person guys love it or else they wouldn't come is it possible to have someone edit the video before posting or to have two youtube videos full version with jokes and the edited version for the serious kevra lominigara why should the serious guys those guys that that the real litvax why shouldn't they enjoy life a little bit so what they do is they do enjoy but they don't tell anybody they enjoy as i told them i message didn't they tell you the myself mendy aryabak was in one of the frumest minim uh in ramachamach like a real haredi place and a guy came over to him and goes ha mark ashkenazi showed up today huh he's like you you watch the shirt goes shh don't tell anybody like a real the whole beard the whole zach anyways my sushi all right uh what else do we have here do we have some time listen what happened was i got i'm not exaggerating 10 15 emails maybe maybe i don't know between 10 and 15 emails about what happened yesterday and zoom apparently some zoom bombers and especially at the hotel there's some nazi and some even worse stuff than that and the only one that had uh access and and it was the administrator was gary and gary schliffen yesterday as you know and that's why i was unmuted and muted he was unmuting and muting me he wanted to grab my attention because people in the basement ocean the shoe room overlapped they were supposed to show this recorded chair anyway it was a little bit of a mess and it annoyed a lot of people so the good news is that gary and mark ashkenazi worked it out today mark is the administrator has it has nothing to do with these emails gary wasn't aware of these emails when he set it up with with mark so we have a carson type for all that all these guys do they go they have full-time jobs and they're working like every day getting up and so here's one i'm not going to read all the other ones that say get another administrator in there he says like this this is from avi sherman uh things could have been short things could have been handled a little bit better uh you've all come a long way in the last 19 months and never expected anybody to come what it has so quickly i know it's going outside or watching evolution a big issue to gary yosef yeshua and the crew who always go above and beyond their job titles involved in you're bringing target to the masses including and not least of which is yourself not only for the last 19 months but a long time before that may have been on the staff endeavor and may you continue to remember it's toyo thank you and uh you know it's it is a growing and a learning experience and bazel sham will will have it one day we'll have it down packed we had a lot of issues lately with the with the sound and the video the kids are working on it growing pains this is from pinkas rubenstein a picture of him and he says uh with my mdy recruiter and one of my best friends from yeshiva khashoggi mdy kylo i forgot to tell you that my havrusa got a 99 on dear shoe which i'm telling you is i don't know if there's 10 people and i just really got a 99 but we got another guy in the car that y'all got 100. so maybe i don't know i think it's like extremely rare especially that i spoke to the head guy and he said they don't give 99s out uh but all those incentives i think are working they're really kidding soy from tara bachma ps i still enjoy the eight minute death when it comes pps i'm begging you please please and get the shabbos newsletter sent out earlier then it has to do with moisture hersh not me uh we don't have printers ready keep on daffing uh something from green park modina lid mdy branch director pinochet salevi rubenstein here he is celebi's with the hat pinnacles rubenstein's with at the hat yoshikaya and here we go today is daf you'd we are holding four lines down tanaan so yesterday we had a mccologuez a bay in rovo in alexandria sandra is the overhang in front of the homes and the overhang is made for the overhang itself in the house certainly not the over the over everybody agrees the overhang is not made for the central courtyard so that is the mahlaikis do we say pete yarivasoisen the thickness of this overhang which is at least thick does it go down invisible wall go down on all three sides abbaya says it goes down we do a good access we do a pitikra yaya visayasam the mouth of this ceiling this tikra comes downwards again not something that we understand it's all sinai says abaya it works even though the pitakara is it was built for that way for inside the home that way but not for in the yellow area and into the courtyard says the gemara it's not so we want to ask a question on abayo by the way we want to say to robbie eichenstein repentance eifenstein from the shoal and i want to say a tremendous script to robbie brody for allowing us to use his base madrid on tui for i don't remember how many days four or five days so to him he's been a big family friend he's a caruso with my brother-in-law for many many years i don't know 15 years or more to him so if you're here in chicago please make this a big one ami you want to come over here to the front for a second i want to i want to introduce you to the island i know you're a big honor of amy valensky i once spoke about him this year a while ago ami i was involved in it's unbelievable it's a big surprise to have him here ami was a little bit of a talmud right a little bit we went with the ursa mech trip a lot okay a lot i say a little from here he was a student here in chicago in university he was not religious at the time and we went to eric cisro and we had a great time we learned a lot of torah together and today look at him he's learning the deaf and he has how many three children uh one fourth on the way in in a couple weeks fourth on the way mazel tov and they all go to from froome for joining us in the death how are you doing with me i started sucka wow it's a big zap so you see it all comes around full circle how many years ago was that that we went there to stroll 11 years ago 12 years ago unbelievable all right kola kavod you remember the story i don't know if you remember that you once called me up you're keeping kosher i don't want to get into it now crazy story okay randomly no no you ordered from like a downtown restaurant kosher sandwich and i didn't know that there's any kosher sandwiches downtown you don't remember we'll talk about a different time yes things things change okay beautiful so here we are so we're talking about the saxadro and the alsadro is more than four hours away from the house doesn't work who cares if it's four hours away who cares if it's 20 hours away if you're talking about deuf and akuma so four hours makes a lot of sense this thing has to be less than four amis the width but if we're not talking about a different akuma we're just talking about a concept of pithick or yariva seism so it doesn't matter how far away this pitikra is from the house it could be a hundred hours away you could still invoke p degree soyuza tirgi marova alibi now i just want to point out here it is sukkah and sukha is a beautiful masecto but it's hard to find like you know the musser and the the i found here look at this tiragama rava rava is asking you a question on abaya about he's not around so robert says let me answer it for abaya it's about emmaus it's not about winning and beating the other guy it's about torah and if this is the truth if i could give a good answer and help my friend out even though we're in a huge argument here i'm going to help him out one thing i thought stopped to make it more smack to remind the islam about a bayern rover it could be a boy wasn't around simply because he was lifter and what happened was abaya married a woman called chrima chrima very interesting story she had two husbands that died and abaya was her third and rover said hey rebby holds that a catalonist is after two a woman who kills two husbands you're not supposed to marry her why did you marry her and sure enough abaya died then when she came to to ask for suba she told she went to rava's besten and she told rava that she wants wine and rava said i know that nachmany doesn't drink wine this is a good morning to have some hay and she said it's not true and she kind of rolled up her sleeve and she went like this and rava saw and it was erva now let's roll up your sleeve pass through your elbow and rover saw it a whole mysore with a taivo he ran home robert's wife found out about this and she beat her up chased her out of the town and said you already killed three husbands you want to kill my husband too with taiva and whatever arise anyways very interesting story i'm just sticking it in here because why does rather have to answer for abaya maybe a bayer wasn't around maybe it's at that time that he was already nifter but what's the answer what happened was beautiful you're thinking to yourself typically it would be like this that the i don't know if you could see but you want to position this on top of your saddle how otherwise this is going to fall in not in this case this case they were able to i don't know if you can see the picture but it's flush with the pitakara if this is the pthikra tekkra what are we going to call this in english the reveal the the what somebody the face of it so this haka is with the face so what what happens if you don't have a face you can't go downwards you cannot look the mushroom scene i go down if you don't see the face you don't see the face because the the the sky is flush with the flight with the face it doesn't allow you to see the face i was i was actually in the middle of building this my first sucker from sugar but i ran out of time it's fine because i think these pictures do a good job yeah are you able to see those in the pictures so that's on top not flush and this right over here is flush okay good next visual master lush might say listen okay that that fits in fine with surah however they read it a little different so remember yesterday we were talking about exaggerated that doesn't have sim does happen let's see if we have the picture here not here i know i brought it somewhere here these guys are semen these pieces of wood that are not three away from each other so if it doesn't have the pieces of wood dibriya call sula why why according to everybody's apostle and i don't say p thicker or oversize him because i'm going to say because the the face was not made for the courtyard the face of that overhang was made for the overhang in the house so there's no pt or yard oversized in that case yes but if it has the pieces of wood these guys these pieces would run up and down incredible why in the world would rovers say puzzle this lovehood this this lesson three it's between each piece of wood so why is this not a perfect wall the answer is i'm buying cherry i'm in love with rava i'm absolutely i'm reading in love with why don't you stay lovely what in the world so yesterday this saturday be asked the beautiful question and guess what i got at least four emails saying that the kashi mahavin to maybe the ron talks about different things beautiful beautiful kasha they were very nispol from the kid they came from chicago that's a beautiful casa 11 year old so i was i was like wow okay at least it's not the tysonism of fortune twice is over here or something or rashi wow it's an article in there i don't have to know every article on there but i should have thought about the cache anyway fine absolutely in love with but why not so now we're gonna have to say the same sorrow oh raboisei if this guy right over here he's doing it very very he's talented okay come here get over here this is yellow everybody you see y'all yeah he didn't want to be on videos by mistake he was just showing you he's taking pictures and okay very good whatever this we're not going to say okay billy and okay fine so wow yeah rubber i'm so i'm really in love with why don't you say love it but you always say loved the answer is because the seamen are not made for the courtyard the seamen are made for the other side they're made for the house and when they're made for the house we don't say love it in that case says rava unbelievable you remember the beautiful rash yesterday if you have a physical wall bricks and mortar then it doesn't matter you can say oh i built the wall for the inside not for the outside then of course i can use the wall for the outside also when it comes to allah it has to do says rava with where i built this wall for and love it only works in one direction according to rava advice is no way this doesn't work in two directions it's only good asic but love it is different says robert says no they're all the same it depends on which direction you build the wall for the circulation is that we always say loved no matter what direction but when it comes to good arches and good asset then it matters where the wall is ravaged he says the more ashkenaz founder of kahana using him that doesn't have wood now what's interesting is you have to add here well it's out come becomes obvious from the mars we're only talking about a two walled uh two walls that he built and alsadro acts as the third wall of usually we passing like rava now it doesn't have semen this wall the sarsadro so how can you use that one wall as your third wall a needs three walls two are great but the third wall you want to use a pete thicker one pete degra but rava says you can't do that why not again because the p thicker the wall is made for the inside not for the outside the whole the whole overhang was not made for your sook in your courtyard it was made for the inside so he shows him oh there's a little trick here no in fact i have three walls there's a the third wall is that you just don't see it near him inaudible what is going on here so when we learned aravind and this is i was able to pull out the picture bar hashem and print it i'm going to go from the from the back and we'll go we'll work our way backwards if you are walking in the mavi and there's a lekki but it's an invisible lucky i don't know if you could tell right over here the wall is indented but when you're walking down the mother you don't see it you only see it when you're coming this direction so that's over here it's the opposite this case if you're walking over here you see the legend by this yellow arrow but when i'm coming from the sarabin i don't see the lachi it's flush with the wall so these are two legends that are hidden in different ways either one is hidden looking from the mavi towards the him it's you can't see it or looking from the surviving to the mob you can't see it says rafcajano that's exactly what happened to mysoko take a look if you use a magnifying glass like the color shonda they blew it up you can see there's a little bit of a lucky one here you were looking from outside over here you didn't notice it or this is very interesting i had a big problem with this but then i saw that they were showing them discuss it the third wall is facing outside of the sukkah and for whatever reason that works now they ask and tyson kind of talks about it maybe when it comes to we're talking about just the heck air for people to notice so what's the difference where it is it's inside outside but we're talking about a wall you need three walls midday right so you need a wall so how's this wall that sticks outside into your backyard how's that gonna work as a wall okay it works the kits are there's a what he's trying to say is that this third wall you have you need two regular walls and the third one is the teva and we have it you just don't see it says gemara so let's see it inside and that's the picture i showed you in the beginning if you could see it from the surrounding but from within the model you don't notice it we mentioned it once or twice and we we decided what it was back then the gemara is going to give us four different ways to learn that if continues outside of your sukkah or we'll see maybe it's even inside the sukkah it's like the sukkah what does it mean so shot number one is you have that comes outside and creates a second sucker behind your sukkah this is circle number one and over here you want to use this area behind your sukkot as a sukkah asakumar of ebenemies you need three walls like in this picture it has three one two three you need seven by seven medical seven seven it has everything all right it has everything maybe the wall you created a whole sukkah for the inside you never thought you never intended when you built it that it's going to be an outside little sukkah for your kid or whatever hey malloy and maybe it shouldn't be kosher commerce milan it is kosher even though you didn't have the prabhupada kavana this is what we learned up until now your sukkah is this size up until this wall but you have one wall that keeps on going and going and this continues with it that's that this entire area right here does not have a doesn't have three walls it only has one long wall with a lot of it's a continuation of the other sukkah well most of us on this one long wall mother say i think that it doesn't have the extra circle commercial and that it's okay so the atom if you think about it this is a typical sukkot that we said that is two walls and one wall is a tether isn't every circuit there's two walls and one wall that back is absolutely it's in the circle beds maybe or maybe not maybe if you do a nice serious wall so you're showing if it's a tefl okay i'm just saying my own critics here i don't know if it's true at all if you do one teva so you're showing that you didn't have enough money to buy a wall so you're putting up a tv and you mean it to be 100 feet long but let's say you make a wall that's 10 feet long so maybe you're showing hey my suk is stopping at 10 feet so that that might be a bigger that even past the ten feet like in this in this case you know this is a nice seven foot uh seven theft wall at least in the picture so i think maybe you wanted to stop there commercial on it continues all the way out here okay whatever rabbi khan i'm gonna be but one small part of this as in this picture beautifully depicts it's hamas over here you don't have good enough um i think that it should become puzzle commercial or not if so if that's your chat um what does it mean where is it going out of the sukkah yo it's going away from the haksha it's not a hundred percent kosher because it doesn't have enough commercial on it's okay now the mahabharata says very interesting there's two alachus in hamas in rumen silasa and that is that first of all you need that in most of the sukkah area of the sukkah here yo do me a favor sit down thanks most of the area of the sukkot should be in every part of the sukkah should be in addition to being also in addition that this should be in in total 51 and 49 sun in all of the sukkah this should be there shouldn't be areas like this in any because look this is take a look over here you have at least 51 percent but the past there shouldn't be any area of the sukkah that's so it creates a problem sort of what we discussed yesterday it has to go through the whole sukkah a or it should be something very hush of like a tafak or royshaveruba kind of thing that would pass all asokka but the rama says that if there's one area that's seven by seventh fahim that's hamas that capacity so just as a heads up don't in other words when you're doing your don't say oh i have at least 51 percent of you should also be aware of every area of the sukkah certainly shouldn't have a seven by seven area that that that's problematic says the gemara next rabbi shaya my what does sal hayeot we're talking about a very small sucker a 7x7 sucker let's see if there's a picture here i'm sure there is yes here we go here's a seven by seven and there's an area right in the middle a little bit less than three of metal um what does it mean because before we're dealing with kosher scotch it's just not enough so it's hatchery now we're dealing with puzzle so it's not even in the parasha of a sukkah muscular voice it should only be it shouldn't be worse than air now we know that ear is worse than puzzle but this shouldn't be worse than here if it's less if it's less than three for him and its ear doesn't pass the sukkah so why would meadow pass the sukkah when metal is better than the ear only rabbo omelet this the puzzle is you're right it is better but you can actually sleep underneath it but the ear will starve so if you look real real quickly there's two categories there's apostles fort and if it's a small sukkah it passes with three two three falcons enough to ruin your small sukkah because why not because that's enough but just because you don't have enough goods and you're not going to sleep underneath it and very interesting just remember that if it's bad metal if it's next to the wall then you go all the way four amis because of defenakuma and if we're going to talk about air ear passes with it doesn't matter even a small sukkah even a large soccer threet falcon and you're not asleep underneath it says the gemara umi and caution has a beautiful kasha how is it possible that air could go combined with schach and you have a kosher sukkah but you cannot sleep underneath it it's good enough to make your sukkah kosher but it's not good enough for you to sleep underneath it how's that possible oh my rebbi yoshiv in i didn't have time i should have checked to see how many times he's brought that in probably only once yes we have this concept when it comes to a mikvah amikvah one of the things that you cannot be touble in is mud but if you have some mud that you add to the water then you could have 40 saw together with the mud and all the other things also that are not met starved too that are brought in rashi snow burra fire glid all this stuff mella so again if you're gonna travel in a 100 percent mud not yayta it's not at filo but if you have 39 sub water and once of mud you are you it's a good feeler so once again you have the idea that it it's enough to be with styrofoam to help you out but to use it alone you can't you can't use it so you're not going to be able to to sleep underneath ear but the ear is good enough to help you sukkot it says beautiful cash on it different shot okay also and you not yo it's just our table in mud we're talking about mud that's very very liquidy mud that could go from cup to cup says rashi we turn to your testament base sponsored by them the white hill group for all those who need shidduchim refusing sures please join thehillm.8.com by the way just reading this i can tell you right now that the lighting here is much better for me i'm just i don't know what it is but maybe it's directed on the gemara the official mishna is sponsored by official hey look at mishna says if you make your sukkah like a hut we're not gonna this is the rambam strat but okay here is rashi's chat let's riff tipi now what's wrong with this the problem with this is that there's no defined wall or ceiling they're both the same we don't know what's what and the fact that we don't know what's what creates an issue here is somehow iso the same exact idea you leaned it up against a wall so it's a wall and a ceiling all in one what is it i don't know it's both it says it's apostle in the gemara we're going to see that perhaps it's not rebel yes it's they switch around the names but again revelation says this is not considered not oil it doesn't if it's not defined a roof a ceiling it's not oil it's not [Music] if you lift up the wall any one of these walls the teepee the the one leaning against here you lift it up a tap you see a little you put a little stand on it it's all good why because first of all lovehood closes it off but there's a defined wall but you hear the hop here it's beautiful how tall does the wall have to be tenth face over here we're doing two things we're going to be using this unknown material as the wall but the defined portion is one tefl it's a nice hub you don't need a defined tent fahren you just needed to define that there's a wall and a ceiling foundation a what i don't know what it is all it's doing is it's serving one purpose to say there's two things going on here there's a wall and a ceiling how much is the wall in the ceiling i don't know i have at least one tava plus i'm going to use some of this for my wall also foundation not foundation the bottom line is yeah you hear what's going on here how logically i define the wall but it's not enough for a wall it's only one tag i need tenth falcon for a wall okay for that i'll use the rest that goes this way here same idea i define the ceiling by moving it away and creating a gap on top right over here that also is enough now i have two things i have a wall and a ceiling that is kosher mai tai amaya durabanan hold forget we just said rebellion even revelation says that it's possible he admits that if you raise it okay and if you make it if you distance it from the wall of the it's also okay bahama say you don't need to ashipua a incline is also an angle is also considered a oil it's considered an oil so it's considered an oil it's considered a sukkot so now let me ask you a question if you have that was that's a that's a whole different sugar not in sukkah we didn't learn in sukkah not yet but over here you don't have a tether over here you don't have a tether but it goes in an angle it's a nice crossing bed we had a study about this if you hold the chip is the oil this is considered a oil so you would not be allowed to sleep in this in the sukkah because now you're sleeping in a oil in a sukkah and that's a problem but if you hold that this is nothing this is not a oil like rebellion this is not all ill so nothing i could sleep in a blanket in my sukkah that i'm not sleeping in oil in it so male it's okay that's the next soggy right here a bayashi header the famous rav joseph a member of yosef became blind sick forgot his torah but he kept on reminding him so he sees this rebbe sleeping in one of these beautiful hair i don't know why but they decided to paint the night like the beginning of this blah now it's nice and purple gesh maka sparty style huh ah it's regressive yeah it's kashif like the rash of shiva deserves it even has flowers over here oh my son wow oh my like come on why how how are you sleeping in it kirby azer again because rebellions are whole this is not counted as a sukkah if it's not counted as a sukkah it's not a oil if it's not a oil it's not a problem to sleep in it inside another sugar because it's nothing what's the problem if you're all like a rebel ezra you're going like a yacht you're going like the the names are reversed in the mishnah rebellion says that it's a good sukkah and therefore it's a io and therefore you're not allowed to sleep in it inside the sukkah islam it's this is nothing it's not a sukkah and it's not a sukkah it's not a bed it's it's okay to sleep in it in a sukkah and the mela i am going like the rabbi i'm going like i have another problem the mishnah is going like one single person called rabinasan who says this rebel yes surprise hold on i'm sorry i skipped something the question is that you're leaving a price on malay bryce shopkins so that's the question how rebecca is if i don't understand rebbe you're going to go like a bryce now like a mishnah mission is a much more powerful than a bryce i don't go like the mission because the mission is the official business sponsored by fischel it goes very very simple is something like this we use this today as far right this is probably the most popular stock today what is it called the mats i forgot what it's called in our scroll it's not called mats something else kinase if it was made for according to everybody it's kosher if it's made for sleeping on according to everybody it's macabre toma and it's possible the whole sugar is going to be what if we don't know it was stam now we're going to see today at least today that if it's a large one everybody's going to agree that it's made for and there's no shail at all everybody says it's kosher the only in my legs is going to be if it's a baby one do they make it for sleeping or they make it for that is the whole sugiya in a nutshell says the mishna martel is kind of if you have a very large one large means larger than a human being if it was made for sleeping on my cabela's toma this typically cannot be macabre tomorrow why because it's called shute creates any flat wood is not megabatoma the only time a wood communicator is if it has a base cable if it has a receptacle a recep to co yeah if it doesn't receive anything it's not mechabotomo so this doesn't receive but if you decide that it's for sleeping sleeping is a real bad bad it's a big no-no then it's tommy madras azov zava you let us need the all these things mathamed when they sit on it sleep on it if but if it was made deliberately for like in our generation these mats are made for me explain everything because it's a little bit vague what's going on here rib laser says it doesn't matter a small one a large one what is going on here so real quickly i look on my sort of again not the passing base of what i'm saying just on what i think i saw you ask your local rabbi but the mr burra says that we're talking about over here in a place that all these reads these read mats were made for sleeping this is a typical in those days to make it for sleeping what's interesting is what if a guy says but i don't want her for sleeping i'm making mine not to sleep too bad it's made for sleeping no so what about it nowadays so we have to say that nowadays things have changed and even the mission bureau would agree that you could change it and even in those places that they do sleep on it and say you could decide then that you want it for go in one problem there is a rashbow and the moganov brings him down that says that if you take small pieces small slats of wood and you connect them with nails or like in this case with other reeds there's a problem with xeras thicker it looks like a roof so how do we use this stuff today so there's a lot of deon and aquarium they say it's not a problem at all why because that is talking about where rain can't even get in there it literally looks like a thick row like a ceiling a wesner says it's not it's not a problem because it folds up it it rolls up there's no xerox thicker nobody's going to confuse something that rolls into a into a you know a five-inch thing and they're going to think that oh i can use my house we can't see all these different reasons that's why the pipe's going to say this is 100 good fine they do have scrap the water can't come in and do them say something about it you're talking about those little the bamboos that are one goes this way one goes that way it's cool stuff but i don't know that that it's no you have to be inside those are not connected if they are connected and the rain doesn't go in then it's exercise you're talking about something that's just peace and peace are they tied together i don't know how it works i have no idea what they're not tied to like gutters they're not tied together manmela the rashma doesn't apply the rashford is talking about when they are nailed to each other jonathan austin all right all we're trying to get to this is a classic gemara question on the mishnah when the mishnah is vague so the gemara says oh i came in both ways and then it's a contradiction like in the mishnah so that's even what you're going to do here i'll go i have a contradiction here amris it says in the mission if it's made for sleeping then it is it says because you made it for sleeping so if i want to just infer from that make a deal i'll say but what if you didn't do it for sleeping what if you just stopped you produced it you didn't you don't know why whatever they want to do with it but of islam would be automatically for okay so that means stam without any specification means is then it says if i made it specifically for great venues and then i can refer from that exact reverse time let's solve the signal it's only because i made it specifically for host over here comes out if i infer the opposite i'll infer that if i made it stab without any specification it's for sleeping and it's possible says she can't make the camera so it's very interesting what the gemara is saying let's go back to the mission if you can look at second in the mission let's read it together martel is calling if it's a large mat you made it for sleeping cabela's you have to insert a few words so to speak in those days they understood it on their own this is how they repeated themselves it was very big it was postured to them the beginning of the mission was talking about a large mat and then the mission switches into a small man let's see what's going on a small map okay now we're going to skip this one and half lines of child sticks in a muse look at the end very good it's a nice try that you're talking about abdullah naktana but how does it fit into the end of the mishnah which doesn't make any sense to what you're saying it says rabbi lazar himself says i'm saying there's no difference at all so if he's saying there's no difference at all you're not going to be able to say oh this is limiting the rebellion because he starts off saying there is no difference the same exact thing and guess what you're not going to be able to answer me anything because he says specifically there's no difference the if he made it specifically for venezuela so i'll infer host and over here you can't answer what i answered before there's a difference between el omarov okay so that's for today today is very positive mama's simple if it's a large mat then it's made 100 nobody buys a 40-foot mat to sleep on unless you're shack did you ever see shaq's bed it's the size of this room okay if you're seven feet tall you weigh 400 pounds you need to okay fine regular people don't need large mats for sleeping so if you made a large mat it's for so there's no more like isn't that and the home of like is going to be what's a small mat i believe it is a stem small man this time large madness if it's this large one it's kosher unless he specifically made it for sleeping on it is always made says remar at this point that it's always made for ska they should be as if it's that it's too small for a person to lie and they should also be crushed what if it's too small too small then what do you make it for maybe it's made for a baby maybe i don't know what else are you making for it they stop making mats what are they making mats for there's only there's a how many uses we have a usage for in those days they used to sleep on it what else can you do with it i don't know who knows vanessa will be less than the main matter let's just finish here mamash one two lines we're skipping a bunch of lines comes realizing says there's no difference it's always stam was always made for have a wonderful day rabbi said should we take a picture y'all says yes