Daf Yomi Shabbos Daf 141 by R’ Eli Stefansky

uh how's everybody doing do we have an update ellie do you have an update from avi anything avi i texted him avi what's the matter where are you hey what's up i'm driving home from the hospital right now good word bad word what's going on she's still critical uh critical condition but there's some positive developments and she's moving in the right direction okay beautiful today's shares being sponsored razor gito baster our very good friend of the deaf dr epstein's wife she's going through treatment and she got a bug and uh she's incred she is in critical condition she was on life support it says herself raise a ghetto bass esther today's share is also being sponsored by my brother-in-law you guys don't know this but my mother was nifter at the very young age of 49 and my father remarried long long time ago i don't know maybe i don't know 13 15 years ago so i have a i do i have two step brothers and one of them is ari and he had a daughter and he watches the sheer apparently i know i knew he was watching the shirt through broncos and everything so i didn't know all the way through now i'm very proud of him so sponsored by ari and adi kirchner in honor of the birth of our daughter rifk alexandria and reforest leima anonymously for anna alisa bat tali i still there's somebody that's not muted i wonder if it's gary but whatever i hear some feedback all right we'll just read a couple of emails here not in any order i didn't like go through this well astr amer hi i want to express my gratitude to hashem and you to tell you that i appreciate the 8 minute daf and the full share every day it's mamish again aiden in this world thank you very much and i wish you lots of atlanta usher avi abby your thing is still on yeah that's what's going on all right here's a very interesting one from a kid in the five towns dear rabbi ellie from cedarhurst my father listens to your deaf young me every day i don't first off i want to say mazatov to you and everyone else for finishing me so i guess the kid hears the buzz about the see him but here's what's interesting if you remember me i emailed you about three months ago about that time and i called you a cool rabbi because you have a dog thanks to you we convinced my father to get a dog and a chicken and this is a valid email so they got a dog and a chicken thanks to me i i feel really bad i hope it's not because of me because i try to convince people out of it the few people try to get it and like the rabbis and the their abundant tell them to get it it's good for your kid it's terrible terrible you're gonna end up walking the thing it and it makes noise and and wants to eat your child while my father is learning the gemara of shabbos he teaches us lots of shabbas for instance when our chicken lays eggs on shabbos you can't i don't have to believe this kid or not i have to believe the chicken lays eggs in shabbos he can't touch it we can't brush the dog in jarvis and a lot of our luck is related to animals we learn that we can't we can almost touch all the scraps of the table shabbos meal because the chicken literally eats everything including eggshells and more yeah we learned that too thanks for our dog and thanks for being cool hi my wife is laughing in the kitchen i hear laughing in the kitchen okay she knows i'm not cool that's why she's laughing so it's great she is uh rachel better times we should hear absuras tyves all right by the way we said we said i just want to tell you that we said to him i don't remember ever saying to him on shabbos we said to him in an hour for us um raise a guitar yeah fine and then we have this one another guy from the five towns forget the newsletters i want memorabilia eight-minute daff rebelli baseball caps t-shirts stickers wall art etc something similar to thank you hashem merchandise great fundraising thing and your fans would love it special section for autographed stuff from you and even rib joseph and others that joe joseph you're becoming famous best cowman and one more from ruben turk dear ellie i've been watching i've been watching that your daily daffy machine on youtube for the past four months since the coronavirus has kept us at home pretty much full time your enthusiasm and motivation is constant inspiration to me and to all your regular followers that followed up on a regular basis we made aliyah 18 months ago mazel tov and are now living in ruslan looking forward to upcoming semester chavez and joining you and your many followers to an exciting event if you need any pictures virtually or otherwise please let me know i know what this guy is this is reuben turk he took i remember taking pictures in chicago at one of like abrasive hours and i don't know he always had a camera avi you know this guy he's he's uh one of the turks the guy that does the high lifeline uh race right the the bike thing yeah okay so they i didn't know they made aliyah keep up the great work and some best regards to your in-laws in chicago as much as you appreciate okay the rest will say we have a bunch more here all right boys i uh any updates for well tomorrow we're going to come out we have the list we almost have a full list we are about 75 locations unreal uh if somebody doesn't want their phone number i'm not so comfortable about the phone numbers going out there but what other way do we have to contact the host we have emails and phone numbers if you don't want your phone number in there let us know we'll take it off uh first we'll try it out on the whatsapp groups and then we'll put it we'll publish it on other places so people can go on line on the website and grab your phone numbers and scam you and all that other stuff all right zuck delegate holding deaf cuff members on the so the mishna says basically here's the picture that i didn't show you on friday uh this is i just did a monster shabbos you could take from this animal right here the donkey and bring the food over to the ox to the to the cow it's a one direction thing you can go from donkey to to para but not reverse so let's see inside how this works you could take tonic you could take from an animal that has a good mouth the noise gonna explain and you take it the food in one direction so if you have two let's say cows you could go from cow to cat it's not a problem but what if you have two different types of animals you have a donkey and you have a cow so you can only go in one direction you can take the food from the one that has a good mouth and i'm telling you the end of the suggyo it means a donkey has a good mouth and you bring it over to the one that has a bad mouth to the cow but it says a different brain you take from the donkey and now we're calling it p or wrath it has a bad mouth the noiseline with a behemoth and the cow all of a sudden has a good mouth both of them are the same direction we're going from donkey to cow that's it now the only thing we need to explain is why do we call it one time we call this one a good mouth and the other one a bad mouth and that's sometimes the opposite me so a donkey doesn't drool so it has a good mouth that doesn't have any drool on it and it's so it's not much it's good stuff it's valuable and you bring it over to the animal that has a bad mouth hold on a second before we go any fighter ooh all the way on top i see my good friend rabiso bran so sram alejandra he's a big part of this year i haven't seen him in a while but it's great to see you it's a big hazard for everybody to see you here who else i see my twin i always see my twin when i look in the mirror guys of herman mendy are you probably has tightness that we started three and a half minutes late tonight okay let's go right there so you're not going to go and take food from a cow he just drooled all over it and gross out the polite donkey he doesn't want to eat that stuff so then why all of a sudden doesn't say the other bride said the donkey's mouth is bad it doesn't mean it's bad but a donkey could eat anything besides obviously drooled upon food but he does eat a lot of thorns and rocks and stuff like that the noise of an evil should be a yawfa but part of the dyke of akhla so bottom line is that we go from a donkey to a cow why you call this one a good mouth and a bad mouth and sometimes you reverse it it depends how you want to look at it it doesn't drool a donkey doesn't drool but he does eat everything besides jeweled upon food no he has the set of standards rocks and thorns yes not drool truly doesn't do says the says the mission of mala from an aleph by the mishnah hakash shall be hamita in those days they didn't have fancy mattresses they slept on hay so now typically hay is mukta because hay is fuel for the fire so it's mukto so if you find yourself with a bunch of hay on your bed and it's uncomfortable to sleep on you you can't smooth it out with your hand because the haze what is this called when you do with your body so rashi says this is called tilton like like moving it with your elbow so the rush says no it's even better than that this is called tilted goofy rashi says you do it with your with your shoulder with a fight but he calls it tilted outside says the rash when you're doing with your body with your back and with your shoulder that's much better than doing it with your elbow that's totally goofy that's already a better madrego than minasat but if this hay was designated and set aside to feed your animals why should you love cairo sardine just just for the fun of it why not a bunch of pictures so here's a guy on a bed full of hay so you got to move it with your shoulder but if the bed already has a pillow so that shows me that everything is designated for sleeping so it's no longer hey that's mokuto it's hey that's not mokuta so i can already move it with your hand just like any any sheet or any blanket that's not mocked so why is this hay any different oh this picture is an art scroll but there's nothing like yoni this one is gewaldeg you know i'm starting to think that these large papers are not good for what we're doing here with the zoom these are good for the shear room not good for zoom and i'm running out of paper anyway so we might have to switch mach beige you have here two heavy pieces of wood at least the top one is very heavy if you look closely you have poles they go up and down on these poles and right in here there's little notches that you could put little pieces in the notch here's a blow up the notch goes in the hole to hold the two planks of wood together basically you're pressing the clothing the old-fashioned press without any steam but there's two types there's the the type that you buy in the store everybody has one at home and then you have the dry cleaner one you have the professional one so macbe should be this is a typical one materian i could undo it on chapis i could pull the plugs out so i could lift up the the plank of wood whatever it is metal will it maybe maybe the bathroom have wood and then the dry cleaner they have metal who knows material equation so i could undo it and pull my clothes out but i can't set it to to press my clothes bishop but the professional one is awesome to touch on chavez because it's professional because it actually makes creases and and it does the right thing that's already says rashi that's for after shabbos so it's already mukto because the press it does it obviously takes a i don't know how much time but more than that could be ready for shabbos so that's ready for something for the weekday now you're preparing for the weekday uh sir review if it was somewhat taken apart it wasn't it wasn't held together from from friday then you could lift it up and pull your stuff out um hi pugla we're familiar with this we already had this so gio we'll do it again here's a radish depending on how you put the radish now the radish is detached it's not attached you're trying to to store it so if you store it right side up where it's pointing down the point of it is downwards so if i remove it from the ground i'm not disturbing the dirt at all i could plunk it right out of the ground and everything is great but this one right over here if i take this guy out of the ground i'm going to disturb the ground so cesaro if it's right side up you're allowed to move it on chavez milamato la malo also but it's upside down it's us so what do you see he holds the title i'm not touching the dirt i'm touching my radish my radish pulls the dirt still he says it's awesome [Music] you shouldn't move with your head a banana be goofy you let it move it with your body now your body and your body is moving cache which is mukta and over here you are touching a radish that's not mocked up but you're moving the dirt which is mukti i love carrots so basically our mission doesn't go like if this straw is food for animals australia i love kyrie soda or you showed already that you want to use this as a bed you have a nice pillow or even a sheet you let it use your hand so you see that it's not a problem to move muktsa when you do it not with your hand not like rav nachman who says that you got to be careful while you pluck this out this would be us or even though you're not touching the dirt over here you're just grabbing it by the top and pulling it out but you're moving the dirt moving the dirt minute sad according to nachman is also so now that we just spoke about title and moving things with ashinoi so the market continues these peppers aquino i want to dice it up i want to do like turken i want to grind it down nice and thin so i can't do it with a knife i have to use the handle of the knife what is that called that's called shinoi sam bishinui crushing it shari tarti asir so he sticks in one other thing here i could only do so if i'm using if i'm doing it to one pepper that's that's different in the weekday nobody does one pepper so two peppers a saucer one pepper is mother danny sack show malaysian i only see the first screen so whoever is new on the first screen you better be careful i'm going to call you out so nice to meet you how are you doing uh rob omar kevin de mesane affilo venami so it's very interesting it doesn't say exactly what he's changing here but rava says since i'm changing so you would think reading the gemara what does it say what's the change what did you do different you took a knife and you flipped it over you're using the handle of the knife it says rashi no there's more than that there's two changes here tushy and that is that you're not doing it in your typical mortar bowl you're doing it in a plate so you have two things what are you doing it in you're doing it in a plate and number two how are you doing it with what vessel are you doing with what clear you're doing it oh if you're doing it with the handle versus the actual knife then it's okay says rava since i'm doing tushinuim i don't care how many peppers you have to do two three five that doesn't matter i already have tushy noodles okay um so the bottom line is that's what we're passing that you need two shiny okay and and la laga also just one thing one last thing you're not gonna do dak tak meaning if you're gonna do it if you're gonna crush something i don't know you're gonna make let's say tuna fish whatever don't go or egg salad is a good example you don't do doc doc you don't do very fine very thin egg salad that's why a lot of times the people that do the excellent job is you'll see larger pieces so tushinuim you do it with the back of the fork not the front of the fork let's say and instead of i don't know what the she knew of the because we don't use mortar and the pestle anymore but let's say you do it in a nice bowl you do it in a in a plate whatever that kind of chinook i'm not passing i'm just saying how how i read it you guys ask your rabbi omravihudo mande socrabe you're a lot of technically a lot of swimming water we don't do it they say it says not to we're today not too so he's swimming in water and shabbos very interesting aloha i don't know if anybody would think about the problem we're not talking about here we're talking about another problem what could be a problem with swimming in water nothing to do with ridding yourself of the water with a towel the problem is carrying carrying water out of your body you hear this not giving up because you are in some body of water and this body of water is considered a carmelus and you're going to come out of the water and walk dalaras on the shore on the bank of the river which is also considered a carmelus and that's a problem you can't walk with all this water you have three pounds of water on you that's a problem so first use a towel now how do you have a towel you have the towel you bring it all the way to the shore and you bring it in you're not carrying it four of us you're you come out of the water most of your body you dry yourself off and then you come out so for us this is not very important because most of us don't swim in shabbos del mar so i said that others be careless that's the problem you might walk four hours forgot the joke there's like a mama joke about this i heard my kids saying another they forget it not for now like something about a mama jumping into the pool and there's no i don't know oh yeah the pool scream out like moses something like you're splitting the sea but if a person jumps into the water and all the water starts moving it's going to move four amis you're going to see a ripple effect four animals away why aren't you why is that not considered considered moving your water in the caramel because the pool the the the river is the caramelist you just moved it four hours [Music] we don't talk about caramelism means your force you didn't take it carry it four hours you went in you pushed it and then it had a ripple effect that eventually ended up four minutes away that's when it comes to caramels we're not concerned about koi now the mishna brewer brings very interesting alarms that are gonna get to us what about somebody that walks in the rain you walk in the rain you're carrying all this water on you why is that not a problem especially in ghostlars you're walking in america somewhere no area of nothing you're walking with all the rain so first they say you don't have that amount of water and you're not exactly sure what that means it's not it's different than coming out of a pool i guess coming out of a real body of water you have that much more yeah i'm saying i'm asking what is the difference if you're in the rain when you get soaked you have even more because this goes into your clothing liquor you know versus when you're in your bathing suit coming out of a pool seems like when you come out of a of a river you have more water than if you're soaked from the rain that's what i i know that you need a sheer but why why is that why is that less of a sheer when you walk now the magnetic rub i think yeah i'm asking i don't understand i don't understand the messages if you understand it better let me know but okay that is the mathias that's what he says that's the thing the ta's i forgot already who says but another thing that they say is that i think they're more gonna have ram the mystery brings us all down he says that you cannot tell people not to walk because maybe it's going to rain and if it rains so so let's say it rains you didn't realize it's going to rain you're walking in the street and all of a sudden it rains on you what are you supposed to do stand still and not walk for the rest of jabba's so obviously in that case haha warren geiser oh once again geyser there's no gizarro there's no halfway zero so therefore they said if you're stuck you didn't realize it's gonna rain and rain on you you're allowed to continue walking so then you let her walk out with her into the rain okay so you don't have to worry about this whole idea of carrying water anymore that's not a that's not a problem omar you say my ravioli and we see this throughout all over the place this was a real concern for them because they didn't have pavement they didn't have sidewalks and if it rained and you're gonna walk outside obviously you're gonna get a bunch of mud on your shoes so what do you do you could scrape it off on the ground but don't scrape it off on a wall on my rava my time because the lie why not mushroom the mexican bunna because you're adding clay to a wall so it looks like your building says i think it's velocity shield some people say nah but like who builds like that who builds with mud this is a very rudimentary type of building we build nicely with the evie xiaomi or with lime whatever it is but not not with the mod hello robin mcconnell because of a mechanical that's not a problem you're right it's not buying up it's the reverse the problem is scraping it off on the ground oh you're going to start scraping it off on the ground and you're going to forget that it's shabbos and you're going to scrape it off right into a hole in the ground and you know purposely try to fill in the the hole you see a nice hole you like to play that game make everything nice and straight and you're going to fill it up and you're not going to realize that the shaft is going to forget so therefore we're going to tell you don't scrape your feet on shabbos on the ground it's my vibrating review so my behavior says you know i scrape on the floor you're not scraping on a wall even a wall it's awesome scrape on a wall similar to binding you're not a scrape on the floor because massive goombas papa says we're not concerned about and in fact that's the halacha rashi says because we're passing like group shimon that dover mescal and you didn't have intent that wasn't your idea and therefore it's smoother and on the wall it's motor the vibrator my mechanically but according to the street that says it's oscar oscar also what are you going to walk around with 10 pounds of mud on your feet mechanically because you have a special piece of wood a nice nice edge scrape it off on the piece of wood amaravo relative so we know what a left is and we're gearing up for mercedes aravin but just in case here's the little courtyard and this red guy right over here is your lucky it's a piece of wood standing up and it shows me hey from this point down is versus rabbit be careful and therefore i'm allowed to carry in here says the gemara don't sit right over here where this arrow is i didn't make that arrow for here it's from a different suggyo but don't sit right there why vilmo mcgandre something will fall out of your hands you'll be playing with something it will fall out of your hands you'll come to to grab it now the rush says that this is only by a by a mother but by your own culture that has nice you know doors to your yard you're allowed to sit there right by your concert if something falls out you're not going to go get it because you're constantly reminded of the fact that you're in a private domain and that's the surrounding and you're not going to go get it by a mother it's so open and so big and there's just raven is right there in front of you and all you're relying on is this little lucky you might come to forget we're just going through allah's different allah so you have a barrel like this and typically what people do is they go like this back and forth they roll it until they get a nice solid ground for it they want to be they want it to be on a flat surface so it's telling you don't go back and forth don't don't rock it why because that rocking motion is that's really goom you're you're you're basically flattening out the dirt below it and that's where you go that's that's a malach don't take a rag that's moist and try to force it into the the opening of a bottle or a can or something you don't want it to be you want to protect whatever you have in there from what is it called um megulla my magulom at night whatever you don't want it to spoil the issue is since it's moist and you put it into the top you're squeezing it the most what's the problem with shrita what's the issue if i'm a aide and i want to tell somebody don't do that if you do it you're going to have to bring a carbon or you do that you're going to get miso what do i tell them you say i'm making the the cloth clean some say it's my favorite i'm separating two things simon i need help over so here's just a little i just want to bring this up even though it's not really the so you're going to have it soon even in more detail but let's say it happens all the time you go to shoal and a kid tries to get into the seat and he hits you with his shoe and on your pants you have this nice little mark of dust on shabbos most of us are familiar with the idea that you're not going to clean it on chavez what if you do what are you over well what's the big deal a little dog like your head falls down on the floor you have a black hat some of us and it gets a little dusty and you take your your sleeve and you start going like this you're not going to believe this maybe you will according to rashi it's a it's a directo isn't there iso and if you didn't know it says the iso so when mashiach comes you have to bring a bunch of carbonates because it's a it's a shaking you just didn't know that this is the right she to take off dust off your pants all of your clothing on shabbos it's a director you let us scrape it off from the other side of your garment let's say in here but not from the outside now how does this fit in with what we just said that rashi says this is the rhizome because when you have a bunch of mud you're never going to get down to the surface of your clothing you're still going to have a mark rashi's talking about dust that you go like this you flick it off and it's nice and clean that's milaven that's isn't the right rashi but over here you have a bunch of mud so instead of scraping it off deliberately from here you go from the other side of the clothing maceve i have a question i could scrape it off with the flat part of a knife not not the sharp part we shall be doing and if you have some some mud on your baguette mega bitsy pattern you could scrape it off with your nail or but that actually cascase you shouldn't shouldn't rub it too strongly he shouldn't go back and forth knight labs should they cast his clown you shouldn't do it at all maybe so the mother says no right from here no question we're going to stick with what we said you're allowed to rub it from the underside of the garment but not directly from the top now just as a also a lot of times you go you have snow on the bottom of your shoe you have mud on the bottom of your shoe so is if it's a very sharp blade it's user to take it off why because you might peel off a piece of leather i'm not talking about rubber shoes and i'm not passing a leather shoe by you taking off a small sliver of your leather that's the issue of me mache that's the problem so now what if it's very wide the piece of metal like they have these get these grates you know especially in in america you have a great you put your shoe on you so the mother of says you really shouldn't but that then the mishap says if you do it lightly if you do it nice and light without going crazy and especially he says if it's still moist if it's very hard it's different but he says we don't have to be so mahmir when you do it slowly and when it's moist if you can remember that great all right fi says you could scrape off a new shoe banana older shoe again because of the issue of me all the shoes some of it will come we're turning to that kuffman from the base you use the flat part of the knife not the sharp the the the thicker side omeletta [Music] you should get rid of your halacha and bring in this says you you're making distinction all the new no distinction both of them are awesome okay abe newman i see here david osborne show malachim bobby linger okay it's a nice oil tonight nice oil i'm pushing 100. you hear this 75 locations for cumin unbelievable unreal tomorrow we're going to announce where they are and some interesting stuff about them is so i don't even know how they did this in those days to me it seems gross but they used to take they're always busy with their oil pouring oil on this pouring going on that so you want to pour you want to get some nice smack oil all over your foot and your feet are in your shoes so this is a problem don't start pouring oil on your foot when it's in your shoe because this is called mahabid you're working you're tanning the leather and it happens to be that you're pouring a bunch of oil on your leather shoe yeah you're trying to get it on your foot but your foot is attached to your shoe and by pouring oil you're getting your oil on your shoe i have a socket rag lloyd shemin what you could do is if your foot is out of the shoe so you pour a bunch of oil on your foot and then you just put your foot right in a little bit gets on the shoe oh this is gross my boy said i don't know you you pour oil all over your body you know they were talking about the ribbon cereal the other day so he used to do guguley shelling he used to literally roll get into a bathing suit or something and roll around in the snow and i did it when i was in denver a bunch of times when you're skiing you come out of a hot pool you jump into the snow you roll around it is torture it literally it feels like needles in your skin all over your body and then then there's a nice high pull you jump back in the pool and it's all over for that just for the for the stick and to get a good video you do it fine people did it just to get you serum out of it to get rid of the hat this you smear a bunch of oil all over your body then you start rolling you do a self massage you pretend you're in a massage place you pour the oil on yourself and then you go over some sort of tablecloth that i don't know what and you roll around and it feels gervaldic to me it sounds like a nightmare personally i would rather do ghoul shelling than ghoulish you don't have to worry about it so so this is a half a minute it comes along and says if you're trying if you had kavanaugh to polish your shoes okay great but if you have kavanagh to tan your shoe to work it up with some oil that's awesome um you can't hand a shoe on shabbos we're not talking about our shoe pallets with the with the with the brush and the and the black stuff it's pouring some oil on it getting it you know nice and shiny whatever it is i'm talking about to shine it you know what i mean does anybody say your lettuce polish what he was trying to say is how much oil do you have on your shoe just enough to polish your shoe but if you have that much oil on you that's enough to tennis shoe then even if you don't have intent for tanning it's also awesome to put your foot into the shoe when you have that much oil on cotton uh what's the gears adam okay you're not gonna go out because you're not gonna go out with a shoe that's too big on you why and this i'm thinking now just that loud this might be the same problem let's say with a slipper the point is that this shoe could fall off your foot i bet you they talk about i remember something about it i don't know forget that but the idea is that anything that's on your foot that's too large that could fall off you might pick it up and carry it if it's very let's say you wear a very large uh coat whatever too many sizes that's okay it's not going to fall off your body and you're not going to take it off let's say you should have a middle marupa a woman not a man a woman cannot go out with a torn shoe now women they treat the shoes differently than men we have one two pairs that said they by them it's like a a designer thing it's a it's a it's a it's uh what do you call it um jewelry whatever you want to call it it's something special for them so they have they have a different allah when it comes to the shoe so if it's torn what's gonna happen she's gonna go out and people are gonna start laughing at her they used to do it in those days also you're thinking back then they were a little bit more no me this was always an issue but they stopped with this but so since people are going to make fun of her she's going to take over her shoes she's going to walk and she's raving with the shoes she'd rather go barefoot or whatever she's wearing underneath her feet under the shoe than to to wear a shoe that people make fun of her now this shoe is not really a shoe because people don't wear such a shoe people make fun of people that wears the shoes so therefore if i like takes boys she shouldn't use it for khalitsah if she's a vama it's not a real shoe it's a shoe not a shoe it's not a good shoe but but the other kind of shoe it is and if that's what she did then the khalid says cushion you're not going to pull her to bed again now a person should not go out with a new shoe basement we're talking about a woman she's never worn the shoe before again the concern is she might have some experience with the shoe and she'll realize very quickly that it's not perfect for her either they'll make fun of her whatever it is she's going to remove the shoe and walk in and dress around with it tonight if she never tried it on before shabbos mother one she knows already yeah it fits well then she has no concern it's not considered anushu we learned somewhere so rashi says pharma in english a form what does it look like if you ever went to a repair shop a shoe repair shop that this guy right over here this piece of metal okay i don't know that was made out of metal in those days it was made out of leather i don't know what wood and you put your shoe on it like this okay very simple now what is this hello huckley this is a clinician will afterlister i'm forming a shoe on it i knock a couple of nails from the top whatever i need to use this for it's a collision laptop now my shoe was on there before shabbos so it says i'm allowed to remove the shoe i'm allowed to use it on shabbos another bracelet says you know i remove the shoe like ash [Music] it's just like this look at this brand new it even has the shoelaces in there it's beautiful brand new it's it's done a hundred percent done but it's still on the form of listen to this it goes as far as saying that even though this shoe is 100 wearable it's ready to be worn it's still not a cli why because the shoemaker never removed it from the form now you don't have to be a a big gun to know how to remove a shoe from a form you just go like this and it comes off but since he never did that so it's not a clay until you you need that macabre pathogen to speak you need that last final move and he didn't do it and if he doesn't do it so it's not a cli and if it's not a cli then it's not my cable tumor so therefore if it's not a cli then it's muktsa if it's muktsa i can't remove it from the form that's why one bryce just says he can't remove it from a form form on chop is what's a typical your typical example a hammer a hammer i could use latoya goofy meaning i want to break open a coconut so i'm using the hammer for its purpose first design purpose let's start with the goofy this is something else called the ceramic i need the place where the hammer's on it's on my shabbos table it's on my bed my cell phone is on my bed move it or not move it so rubba says i can move a hammer for two reasons let's start goof i need to crack open a nut or because i need the place that it's on top of shop here so that's why i can move this form yes i'm not talking about this shoe the shoe you're telling me is not muktsa because it's not it's a clear ready it's finished and every knows how to take it off great but what about the form when i'm taking the shoe i'm moving this form and the form is muktsa now think about it the form is inside my shoe and i need the place inside my shoe it's starting to make my you cop what's going on here it's taking up the whole air space of my shoe i want to get rid of a cliche malachi this or from within my shoe so according to rava it's great if i want to break a coconut with this piece of metal that's okay let's talk about my awesome but if i just needed space it's awesome michael maymar what's up my going to say my skin on i'm not moving the form because the shoe is completely open the shoelaces aren't tied it's completely open and without even moving the form at all even one millimeter i'm able to slip the shoe off and i'm good this is what this says it's muther if it's if it's on loosely time in the raffle raffle oh says according to review they have to say that it's on loosely how's rather going to explain himself rafa says it's not a problem to move muktsa so what does rava say that he was on loosely said i feel so then why does rava say that it's loose whatever you do i have to say a whole shtickle tire that it's loose they should just say you're allowed you let it move the form you want to do whatever you want because they need the room inside the shoe says a second ago that this shoe is not a it's not finished yet because the professional didn't decide to click he never took it off the form and never put it on the shelf to sell so you have no business taking it off it's not a clean it's not a shoe yet or however since it's so loose even though it's not a cli then it's considered that it's off the form you hear what's going on there it's a nice far when is it considered on a form and i need a professional and i need the guy that made the shoe to decide okay i'm taking it off if it's on tightly but if it's on loosely then it's not halal it's not on the form just pretend it's not on there at all it's as if it's on the ground because it's on loosely anything that's on loose is not on it's not they're not connected and therefore even in that case rebels will agree that it's a complete shoe that it's a klee it's in kabul tomo etc [Music] says the mission of the november today during laning i was thinking it's like i don't know if this is you know the going says that if you learn something that day the parachute today in our parachute by shilishi it says kasya yisa i think that's the loss of something like that like a father carrying a child here knight tell others it's not really that's not what the guy was talking about it's the same lotion maybe not the same allah not the same idea neither love has been known by him the other a father is carrying his son and the son is holding mukta now he's carrying him in his own house in the huts or whatever n in a place you're allowed to carry a kid but he's not allowed to carry the stone he has no business a father has no business carrying stones in chambers but he's not carrying a stone he's carrying his son who's carrying his stone is that okay now the sun pretend the sun let's say he's carrying a box and in the back is a stone that's us so why is this different he's carrying his son who's carrying a stone he's like they're both in his hand he's carrying the full weight but you're allowed to do it ligament's going to discuss and explain to us why vic alcala i'm allowed to carry a basket when it has a stone inside now this is a big kiddish i'm allowed to carry truma when i have some of the tremor some of the fruit truma food that only a kind could eat some of it is tar some of it i don't know why i have a picture here's a picture because he only has a picture we have a picture here's a father carrying his son and the sun is carrying a stone great here's another one this might be more important to see but here is the truma female here's a mouse dead mouse on truma and it's up here the truma tomatoes the gemara is going to explain we're not going to get to it today is on top and this stuff the figs are troubato so you're carrying a basket with both now the truman tomato what do you do with truman tomato you can't eat it you have to burn it but you can't burn it shabbos so have absolutely nothing to do with this room of tomato so what is it it's a bunch of stones as far as i'm concerned this food trumata maya is like a bunch of dirt to me nothing has zero value it's moxon 1000 million if i have a bunch of troops mayo and regular fruit hulen or if i'm a cayenne i have tar i can carry them both a little interesting allah here let's go this way first you see yoni has here a hundred pay raise in this one box and he goes and throws in another pre depicted in red so now what do you have 101 100 plus 1 is 101. now why is that important because truma only becomes bottle that red guy is truma it falls into 100 fruit that anybody any israel any one of us could eat besides rabbi schoenberg you could eat or whatever but regular guys these straw guys could eat these guys the regular fruit now the trivia falls in there i don't know maybe only a coin could eat this box but since there's a hundred and your trim is one so i have a hundred pieces against that one now i could eat it if i remove one i have to remove anyone here like yoni shows here this guy's a kind where is he this guy's a cayenne because he has a nice cayenne hat and this guy is just a regular husset he's bringing strangle so the khasid is giving the cayenne one red fruit which one anyone i just made it red so you they're all red okay you don't know which one is what but you don't want the kind to lose out from this whole transaction because he owns somewhere in that box he owns one fruit yes it became bottle but you don't want the kind to lose out so you take one out of the box and you give it them now you think that that's considered misakimana i'm fixing all my fruit i have a bunch of fruit here and now that i eat it on chabas because one of them is truma and i'm telling you go ahead take one and give it to the coin now i can eat everything nevertheless i'm allowed to do it on shabbos take it up lift it out the medumo this this this is stuff that i don't know what it is i have one hundred and one i'm allowed to take one fruit out amarov the father takes out a child a live one because we're gonna talk about a dead one a live kid and on the kid is a is a wallet he's only high of for carrying a wallet and he's not higher for bringing in sarabim a child tina kimes and the gemara is going to explain why what if the baby is not alive they kissed ali lipitzavari the kid was playing his last thing he's doing he's playing with this wallet and he dies and you take the dead baby out together with the wallet potter he's not high for any of them either of them says the first case you're high because you're carrying a wallet will have an ammunition like why are you not if you're carrying a baby says robert kirby sincerely we had this already there's the concept that a human being balances himself and by balancing himself he makes it easier easier to carry so it's not as if he carrying the whole baby carrying a lot of it but not all of it and therefore you're not high for the baby himself billy battle for carrying the wallet the kiss the wallet has to come over the battle kids the govitinois the wallet should become bottled to the baby we learned this as well we learned we learned it if you carry a human being on a bed the bed becomes bottled to the human sham says yes that's the way it is i don't care about the bed i care about the human kiss they got a big teeny little immediately but i don't make the the violet bottle to the baby now let's go to the next aloha tina amazing story a little bit of harry potter if i have a dead child and he has this wallet wrapped around his neck potter asking mario valverde but what about the baby says the mother of a girl the famous rip shipment this is the classic example of melaka in sri lanka we have many different cases but here it is here's the case if you have a dead person in your house you don't want the person the dead body in the street you just don't want a dead person in your house you know what it's not a positive melaka it's it's a negative it's you're trying you're coming up with a solution to your problem you have you have a smelly body in your house you don't want it in your house you take it outside but you don't want it outside it doesn't do you any good that it's outside you just don't want it in your house you rather it not being here at all you rather not having to deal with it so mamelo that's called it's a malacha that you don't need inherently for the malacha itself and therefore your potter carrying it outside according to shemin and that's what we hold like tanaan but what are we going to do with this then it says that you're allowed to carry your you're allowed to carry a kit and he has a stone and over here it says that the stone is not muktu if i'm allowed to carry my kid and he's holding a stone it's not as if i'm holding the mukta the stone is not mukta for me so if it's not muktsa so it's not carrying why over here is it carrying says we're talking about the reason why you're allowed to carry this kid with a stone it's not because it's not mukhtar maybe it is mokuto we made a special cooler when this kid is going crazy he's throwing a tantrum it's going to make him sick not sick to the point you have to bring him to the hospital but sick enough it's going to make him not well so i said okay in that case if he's holding his stone i'm allowed to carry him but the stone is it is considered caring we made a special cooler in in this case dinner nami so then why are we talking about a stone even money cash you know how to do the same thing and i'll carry a kid he's holding a bunch of money says now there's a very important rash here the rashi says well we'll see in a second event says if the stone falls out of the child's hand the father doesn't care he's happy get rid of it now the mr brewer does bring down that if you if the kid throws a fit you let her put him down on the ground let the kid pick it up himself you're not going to come to pick it up dinar enough if the bunch of money falls out of your kid's hand you're going to call him to grab it says rashid therefore now raglav hasselhoff if your kid is holding a bunch of money in his hand so you're not going to walk around with him in the street forget about carrying him even walking with him holding onto his hand you're not allowed i guess not holding his hand that would be okay thank you for say the rava one small piece of kamari and we're done tangos you carrying a whole pile of laundry folded laundry in your hand put it on your shoulder listen your rings instead of them being on your finger you're holding them in the palm of your hand your shoes in the palm that's regular carrying on jabbas we wanted to say this part but if you there are new you're holding a bunch of sweaters and t-shirts and rings on your fingers potter that's not a brow now hamaiti although i love and if you carry a human being you give a guy a ride on your shoulders and he's wearing a bunch of clothing i hope vistandola barack loving his wearing shoes with advice of the other and he's wearing rings potter because he says he's battling his balancing himself so it's not as if you're carrying the whole 250 pounds it's only 249. and therefore you are potter the illu but if this guy is completely naked let's say and he's holding all his clothes in his hand then you archive you see what's going on here if you're carrying a person and the person you're not carrying why kaino says and everything that he has on him is battled to him so now he put her but if he's carrying it then you're high so too when it comes to this child same exact allah all right rabbi sai tomorrow morning based hashem 7 15. if you know anybody who wants to host well you're all israelis we don't need more places in there as well unless they're like exotic places in the hermann or something we have plenty of places here in ramaphichem the islam is invited to host and let people know about the serum see you tomorrow have a great week everybody and you can now unmute if you 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