Daf Yomi Pesachim Daf 32 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning rabbi said we're very very excited two things first of all we have a tremendous guest robert hasenfeld from malaysia and welcome he's been with us for what two years come on since hulen yeah since well we started the eight minute dave hulen this year before a little bit very nice he's mayors uh mary jacobs my son-in-law his uncle so tremendous horse is big thomas so thank you thank you for coming oh and he brought us a gift i should read them now here is eight minutes worth of chocolate hope it lasts that long almost as sweet as your sheer because you can't send chocolate over what's happening today is sponsored by sander dedicated for the 49th yard side of my father-in-law mordechai ben joseph levy max levine then show me should have an aliyah i also got word and i'm not condoning anything i'm not saying but there's a tremendous i spoke about this guy tremendous tremendous about zakah maury is foremost ravshak said he's the god of dart in zdhaka he used to send people to ask him for brachas and his son was in prison and he had a life-term sentence and uh donald trump pardoned him today maishver went to visit him in prison about a month ago going through a lot of loops and when he got there they said sorry covet go back home it's a big very big family friend and a lot of people he lived around the corner for me in lincolnwood so there's a symbol there as well um so we're talking after this year on zoom about uh learning why you do exercises killing two birds with one sound so so to speak so fish from manchester sent me this picture of him learning it sits his flying his his white shirt the whole the whole thing and the gemara so i want to show you how i do it maybe someone gets some kiss i finished um 40 times mostly because of this i have a a lifted stender notes it says sorry and a lot of light this is just the the no music no music it's uh ear canceling noise canceling things all right what do we have here uh which one should i read this one was from 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to me but i realized after this year i kept on saying he sent slurpies to this kid and then a chocolate to that kid then i realized might have not come across the hundred percent but just two days ago he sponsored a sheer for larry pearl that the the guy that that that had a stroke larry pearl he's the one that sponsored the shield who saw your fool he doesn't he's not biased so uh at all times oh i thought i got two emails like this yesterday unfortunately i have thought that if i would have had rib ellie as a maggot cheer as a school kid how special that would have been they should have brought rebellion to my learning program and now i'm very thankful that thank you rebellion you're safe no i'm and all the others on the mdy team please don't hesitate to contact me this is any if you ever need warmly regret dove harry's partner so today is da flame bay slave and we are holding by the mishna unlimited aleph base on the bottom person has a crap he has to give the cayenne even a mashup one one grain so let's call it two percent he gives that tremendous the posix says when it comes to ish so if a person eats that turmoil israel eats the truman they gave to the kind by mistake bish gaga we already discussed this can't be bemazed then excuse me then he has to give the coin kaidush this word kaidos is very important comes to teach us that he cannot give the kind cash it has to be something payroll says rashi that could become kaidos so what happened so this person this individual by mistake ate truma it happened to be hamitz if you did it by mistake he has to pay what the torah says in addition you have to give him a fifth we call that a fourth a fifth meaning if he ate 100 he gives the client 125. why do they call it a fifth because after you have 125 you take off 25 that's the fifth of the 125. we call it an hour in pondovich math it's called a quarter fine labyrinth every sugi is the same now rashi says over here and there's a whole sugar coming up when it comes to truma do you pay luffy meda or the fee minion in other words domin sorry dumb do you pay based on the monetary value or the or based on the volume so actually says we're going here according lumido you pay you base it on volume mma law you have to pay why what's the difference because if you pay by dummy by monetary value it's humid some pesos has zero value so is there a value and you consume comments on pace you don't have to pay the car in anything if it goes by monetary value but i don't so the mission is going luffy mido we will see though that even if you say luffy dummy there might be monetary value why because you're basically holds this monetary value this had not you could you could burn it you could make a flame you can make a you could light your fire in your oven with it next the meize now if all this happened and the guy did it on purpose now he's just a regular goslin so he doesn't have to pay anything the whole reason why you pay when you eat truma is to get a kabara you got a caparo that also you have to pay the uh the coming back but over here since it's pesach and it doesn't have value and you did it on purpose what does the puzzle say there's no caparra you don't get a capara so you're not paying you don't have to pay to get a caparo um now if this truma is coming so there's no you don't have to pay for the why this this uh even though it was tummy it had value you could heat something up with it no you don't pay says the gemara it's not awesome we learned himself if a person eats truma by mistake he pays karen that's what we just learned the principal plus 25 or fifth whether you're eating whether you're drinking whether you shmear it on your body says rashi sikha is like and drinking is like eating so all three you're hive meaning but if you do if you use it and you destroy it then your potter this key of the image is only when you do these three things you consume it in a normal fashion but if you pour it on the floor this is tremendous we just finished a full year of shas from the beginning of broncos we're missing some people yeah yeah we lost another guy one of the guys that pushed and pushed i should come he's out with quarantine so now three guys we started the small group three guys are adding quarantine unbelievable all right you know my sons yeshiva they one of the rabbem had corona so they call the holy shiv into a room and they tell the rabbis that yeshiva is over you all have to go into quarantine the rebbe had kovid and we'll see you in another two weeks then they realize the rebbe doesn't have corona so they say okay you're not in quarantine the only problem is that one of the boys in the room had corona a different boy so because they brought all the boys into one room to announce an announcement that was fake everybody had to go home for two weeks and yeah and he's he just got over it now two weeks all right i have a feeling i'm gonna be the only one left there only one standing three guys down already zog to kimura so echo truma he has antibodies so if anybody has antibodies they're welcome to come antibodies where you take the vaccine come on in so if you consume it you eat it you drink it if whether it's tar tommy doesn't matter you have to pay the haimesh the extra 25 percent the extra fifth the home show and what if you already paid the hamish you gave the cayenne you did you ate you couldn't control yourself you ate the true mistake you gave the kayan the principal plus the high vision then you go and you eat from the s and if you eat that you have to bring it on oh here comes the suggyo does he pay by the value or does he pay by the monetary value now let's see what we have here there's another guy down there's only four guys down in bed now okay that's why the song is very schwab [Music] when it started out when he ate it it was worth four and today it's worth one loity boylock the vada you certainly have to pay like when you ate it which was four luffy dummies gasoline so here's the pasek baal habari shalom kesave yoshiva baolov i think this is the passive no this is the passage yeah vahegia sorry evasion zxela sure goes all so this is extraordinary love finished you should return whatever you stole ashore goes out to teach us i believe that's it yes that's it so the ghana has to pay like at the time of the geneva so if he stole it when it was four and today it's worth one it doesn't matter you have to pay back four kitty boy whatever measurement you took a certain amount pay that amount or you don't know if you don't or perhaps it goes by the monetary value this is alcohol business michelin and therefore he has to pay four zuz worth of fruit in in fruit obviously but four um late tomorrow so a gregaris is a dried fig i don't have dried figs pretend these are dry okay so here are figs he ate this and he paid him a date he ate a fig paid him a date all her grades are she late tomorrow and papa lebron mama she's a great guy why because he ate this and this is doesn't have such value look you see this the whole container costs a buck and this container costs 10. so he's a great guy i'm just like now if he ate a container and it's worth one and he paid him back a full container which is worth ten makes a lot of sense tommy lebron that's truman this i hear he's saying but but la mais if he has to pay by volume so he paid the value it's not really 30 says pay back the value so he paid the value value now i hear what he's saying he's asking that's rivers grievous the chavis is because he ate something that's worth that it started out with one and he paid back something it's worth four ellie obviously vw charlene but if you pay by the monetary value i might obey look what happened he ate this whole thing and he literally returned one little lousy date why because this one date is equal in money to this this one date cost one dollar and these uh 10 guys cost one dollar so he paid him one he didn't pay him a value he paid him by monetary value no you're right he paid one date for the figures v-neck what's easier to sell one date or ten figs one date not because it stays it tastes better it's kashmak these even today you can get these for free you go you walk in the street and find industry these are by the way i told you already once i started eating the good ones it's much like candy i never understood the gamora they used to give the kids they said i mean it's candy you get the good ones not those dried ones taste yeah yeah the vagina is dates it really tastes like rash not in those days even 10 times more what about our mishna it says that if you eat truma that's comments on pesach if you do it by mistake you have to pay okay if you have to pay by the volume so therefore it doesn't matter how much chavis it has what's its monetary value what's its monetary value on pesach zero so it doesn't matter that it's a big zero because if it was a zero then you're paying back zero but if you have to pay him by volume yeah you took a batch you have to give him back a box that's how you get your cap it has no value now very interesting i saw a very interesting thing let me see if i can remember it this is shiloh how do you base your comments is it based on where you are or where the hummus is so if you have a bag of pretzels in artists raw and in america it's not pesached you're over could you sell your hummus could you wait until it's almost by you to sell your comments that's energy strong or not obvious answers why because they say from over here you're saying the hummus doesn't have any value maybe it does have value maybe the cayenne is an error to straw and it's already after yantaf and it's the aunt of shady in america and all this room is in america and it doesn't have value in america but has value in aries as well so you see from here but i think that's that that's how it is i mean think about it it makes sense like it's where your it's your comments where the comments is not where you are it's the ben where the heart is the comments isn't there so you're over khan's is it it is yours it's still yours but where is the hand because you are not in the pace of the command he dies what happens he doesn't get another instruction all right fine says gemara so what are you telling me some pesach has zero values the third cheetah that we had revised it does have a value what value does it have enough so you can take these dates or whatever and make a fire out of it so go from one dollar to ten cents it's not the true value it's the value of what yo you're telling me it's review that we just read but amazing if one consumed truman purpose potter then [Music] so if a person had he did the amazing the safer we're talking about the sephora so he did amazed on truma he knew it the shy gig was comments he didn't know he didn't know it's pesach so then he spotter why him live with the revenue and he holds that what that even uh is even me you get miso but it's not real death so typically you think death versus money if you have two ancient one is real death and president and money so since you're getting the death penalty you don't have to pay the ten dollars of the but here's the hadith that even though he's not really getting the death penalty he's getting the death penalty really minas shamayim that's also considered death penalty all right and the ratio is talking about he forgot about comments forgot about truma if anybody wants you could look in rashi mask nice rashi why the gamer talks about comments and pesos not just uh truman that's comments and places not just plain trump so this idea this much like this do you pay back truma by valium or by money is making it so let's stop for a second what does that tell us rebecca holds what if you potter completely why are you potter because it has no value because we go by dummim kiva would hold that we go by value then he would say you're high cervical rubios so a person ate a box full of fruit he has to pay back the box regardless of the value over there so now they're arguing to say the same word for word in 10 lines it's going to be the same 10 lines besides the ending there will be [Music] truma that's completely tommy and the kind can't eat it um big difference in truma that's tommy and truma that's comments the client can eat it yesterday he could use it to warm up his oven if you remember we just had this chart like two weeks ago vania plural and what do we learn from that shruma tahira and truma tamaya lacha goes to the cayenne even truma goes to the khan for what for asaka he could heat up his oven no so what are you asking me a question from from true mattmaier now he doesn't answer anything you see you notice there's no answer he has a good question if i if you have trouma of berries and grapes what can you do with a berry and a grape if you can't eat them they're worthless you can't make a fire with it you can't do anything with it the med varma is fine so inaudible he asked him a question he says uh you could you could benefit you can't benefit anything from it you you you bring me away from truman over there yes the coin could benefit he could light up a fire but on pesach he's it's also bahana he can't even make a fire with it it's like it's like a berry that's the end of the sugar right fine now the price continues and and in a second we're going to just finish off the price and we're going to repeat the whole suggyo plus an answer to this question yes same exact thing that's sucking animals is together we're going to see actually that lassen in the gemara in a second they're identical that's that's having an off from it says the gemara behmed varma murray so the price continues this is all said by mafish when you gave the truma in in its proper state and later on it became comments on pesa or let's say you gave it before pesach and pesach came around you gave it on pesach and then it turned into comments available to us but if you gave it in a state of comments did y'all call leina you have to give a nucina that's right you're going to see tomorrow if you give it in the state of of of comets no good because it's pesach right now you can't give something that it's not edible to the client here we go we're going to give a rice through this you should give the trumpet to the cayenne should be kaidesh dava royally is kaidesh it has to be something that could become quite this like we said in the beginning in the mishnah that has to be fruit and if you get if you eat it you put her from paying back the very ribbon leaders and biako what is the realization we have already sai that it goes by dom him and it has no monetary value don't have to pay anything rebel lazar over where are you looking what what app is that okay whatever it is i go by the art scroll whatever the article says they know they did the research [Music] so you have the same exact mathematics as we have before does it go by dom name and therefore it has no value you don't have to pay the claim back anything or does it go by volume and you have to pay him back the same exact question what about you during the year this is true with me he has to pay my so that's where we ended off before and here comes the gemara omar afbazooya heteroasaka not true even on pesach you could light your fire why not or you could make a flame underneath your path why because we hold like they must hold like that it's so why didn't they answer that before because they don't know they could be exactly and now that we know that so we know the next ten likes in the sugar and now we turn to that flavor with the base sponsored by our guest no i'm just kidding no spans about hashem i mean i love it no sponsors omar abbayo rebel yes so as we were learning the suggyo we pointed this out ourselves that was revoking who says you don't have to pay anything yo domin there's no monetary value on pesach why because it's also about no and that's where you don't have to be anything maybe you're going to know yourself if you meet michelle the reason why we're building our holds that you do have to pay even though it's also by no and you're not benefiting any but it goes by value and you took a box pay back a box sheet [Music] mushroom the sabbath is likely maybe the reason why rebecca holds you have you have to pay not because he switches the sheather from middle to dominant but rather because he holds he switches the sheeta to reverse likely so why did he answer the answer when we learned to suck it he stopped short he didn't go right there there's no answer to the question only in the second bryce so they say oh he was like everybody said lily seems like only the second prize is also greatly very very simple yeah okay it's not a right the hoverner gets it's not all right um if a person eats his eyes the question is what how much do you need to consume in order to be alive according to according to the tanakama you need to consume akaze because the ice is all of the torah oh gosh you have to pay the full karen comes along there has to have monetary value here it has to be worth a proto now so this proto doesn't have lahaira accusations it needs to have a proto it doesn't have a kazaas so what kind of fruit are we talking about here says rashi the lake is we're talking about in a famine i found it very interesting in rashi's time how much is a pluto in our days i think it's approximately i don't know i didn't look it up but back in the day we were saying it's about three cents like ten i grew up in there just wrote let's say three cents three point three cents right it's based on the silver i don't know where silver is today so rashi wouldn't have a problem nowadays you can't get anything for three three cents a grape you know even in one grape because so a cause is a fruit cost much more than three cents in our days just just pointing it out in the time of rashi you could get a lot for three cents and he has to come on and say we're talking about a famine fruit is so expensive that a kazias because isis is is less than a proto this is a cause is a pluto sorry because it's a prudence says anyway has to do with monetary value or macro vinosan nissino pogres michover pruto so it comes to the nucino to the cayenne you have to give him something when you give something to somebody it has to be a prudence asks twice this a bomb question look at the top twice this is a cree we keep on saying this when it comes to truma all you need to give the kayan is one kernel now one kernel is less than a pruta so and the tario calls it in asina the symbol you should give the cayenne a colonel satori specifically says it doesn't have to be pruta so what are you telling me that that in the scene it means a prudence how do you get out of such a question so i saw one of the restaurants i forgot it was that the the this is the covered you you said the classic guy i'm going to say trading russia and there's adenosine when your mafras from ukraine when you take off the tremor from ikri you have you could take off even one kernel that's fine but when you give to the cayenne you have to give an asino so take off from your your wealthy guy you have a big farm you take off a kernel from here and a fruit from here and then make sure that when it all combines together and you give it to the coyote you give him a is that so fair to hear that fresher from the wheat that's one kernel but then the cena to the cayenne you don't like it there's a region saying it i'm not i didn't say it's nice i said i saw one of the shrimp i forgot who it is i forgot somebody i'll uh i don't know if okay it's in the back in the back of them that's why it's in a sina the mitzvah of let's see if that works [Music] hold on no but we're talking and over here they're taking away from the mitzvoth that that that has to be gaza's that's to be a pluto taking away from them it's giving is not okay i hear i don't know if any of them say look at this i invite this fine so so we have a much like here how much of this turmoil do you have to consume is it a pruta or kazais and they both learn from the passage so what's that michelle going to do it says he loves his eyes so did i skip something it seems like i skipped no oh so that only for a gila achill these things then there's no the then that you have to pay hamish but if a guy is a magic he pours it on the floor he doesn't have to pay the chemist it says [Music] has something that's could be kodaish not money that cannot be if it's only douches and therefore you cannot pay truma you can't say oh i have 10 apples let me give the cayenne a couple bucks it doesn't work like that you have to give them the apples if you eat truma not on peso eat rumor less because i is you pay the karen and you don't pay the hamish very interesting allah in between you have to pay the principal but you don't pay the penalty why because it's listening what's the case either elizabeth if it doesn't have the value the monetary value of a pluto can not be literally challenging why is he paying at all even a ganev a ghana that steals less than a proof that doesn't have to pay back vedas and if it has the monetary value of a protocol let him pay the penalty as well it has a value of a pluto therefore you have to pay back but it doesn't have a kazaas and that's why you don't have to pay the chemist over here it says if it has a proof that you don't you don't have to pay the hamish right absolutely says all you need is the value of a proto and then you have to pay the karen we're making a distinction no it's in between you don't pay the homage but you have to pay the karen raf papa listen to this let's try to answer this maybe it does go according to absolutely requires a pruta anakisas in other words abhishel learns both sukim the hilah and then asina you need two things and the gemara is going to say all the way on nomad alif i mean give alone like 10 lines down we're not going to get there today i don't think that republic retracted this that you don't need to but that's his attempt there perhaps in order to figure this thing out maybe have a show holds you need it because you need to eat consume a kazaas and has to if you don't have fruit they don't have to pay you don't need until you have gazans vimyso asks yes break his eyes a kula means all i need kivan chih all i need is one kizayus the miso kiev in cheshire is all said you need two they should have said kievan since it already has one that's enough aci means i need i need both i need a kazais plus it's pruto yeah givenchy one out of the two that's enough says you need two according to your papa you need both things you need to protest so when you come to argue on him what should they be saying they should be saying this lotion it's not true all you need even gh you need one attitude but they didn't say it like that they said achieve we're more mahmud than you we we hold that you need you need a kazias you don't hold that i we hold that what time is it 7 59. okay let's do a minute we might have to go back on this because it's the one very very long proof that papa had tania you know let's just it's a long suggestion we read it great we got close to the end of the page to the omad [Music] have a wonderful wonderful day for visiting shira malloys [Music] foreign [Applause] foreign tell the guy drinking over there he might not realize that he's wearing the yamaha no he's wearing a kid's yamato doesn't realize he's gonna walk out like that like me and my thing what david feinberg said wait till the end of this year now he's very much good he's very midairy how much of a day oh here he is thank you thank you [Music] so now when i say it when i say it after oh yeah you just put on the pressure yeah one pack 100 you know how hard i work on it ask this guy reuben when did i give you llamad alef i gave it to him yesterday he's it's a big bala god he works hard i work hard i know i really i know i know 100 100 seconds he's complaining he's one of the four people that watch the amen adapt and he says that where of summits have this every year a lot of places have a factory in china and it's yours you own the comments in there so first it's i pay for the food right in china you have to feed the workers you pay first it's a big shout out also warrants you you literally own the factory two buildings in my buildings wow when did you give it to me what time are you serious what a shame okay we gotta catch uh all these things i didn't see it i did see it i have to catch i have to give you in the morning you give it to me