Daf Yomi Pesachim Daf 29 by R’ Eli Stefansky

yeah from now i'm waiting for you to finish singing are we ready gary youtube's on good morning rabbi sai ah what a day what a day we're gonna have here ah unbelievable stuff leading us sponsored by an amazing sponsor kauman natano wolkenstein happy 35th birthday may continue to go strong in your learning with your belly love esther slay me raffy we're gonna see you soon this is not this is different this is this is a different comment you're gonna there's gonna be an email you'll understand everything nope michael shields for the reforest layman for my great uncle simcha ben toba who happens to be rebelli's wife's aunt's brother i have no idea no clue my wife first of all i have to figure that one out my wife okay i got that and brother i know my wife's cousin is a shield okay you know who shields is the the kid was on zoom every day yeah i should say hello to morty tiffany i read his email the other day i said hello to him yeah you're not pink when cheer starts at 7 15. you're not 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all the way at the end i even brought some parts for the suggy we're not going to be cooking here says the gemara we're holding that kayak on the base all the way in the bottom of the base nissan so what we had yesterday i didn't make a breakdown right this one cup is not going to make it today i'm telling you now you stay up there it's fine all right we had a mission of famous mishnah muhammad shavir if it's the comments of a guy is if it's that of a jew also and then the gemara said mani mas nissan who does this mission to go and gives us a whole long arrival and doesn't even come up with a question so this is what we came up with yesterday basically you had three sheethas rabihuda ribs review the holds this is before pesach pizzas after pesa we had a whole discussion what is a common food that's eaten right before pesach after you can't eat hummus anymore and i think hop chips or whatever it's called that that that that chunk the meat thing yapchus that was the number one consensus but i don't have a picture of that so we'd stay with the macaroons that are given out at the seam fine and then on peso zelo machina this is just for visual reviews of the opinion that before pesach it's also about no it's also about no i know it's always awesome before pace in other words from the time that it's that you have to burn your comments till pesach itself after pesach mutterbahno says even on pesach itself you could benefit from comments you could sit in the shade of hummus do whatever you want with the hummus you can't eat it obviously but you can benefit says the gemara if it's this says is before and after all throughout there's no difference there's a yesterday right here is there is here over here this is the right and chorus comments stomach omar affilo de so rebuke it doesn't mention anything he just says stam comments even that of a guy so what do you tell me of a guy you're allowed to benefit you're allowed to go to dunkin donuts right if if a guy owns hummus people go immediately to the store right after peso is over and buy from him why it's pesach rebuker doesn't differentiate between a jew and an anju virep shimin and if it goes according to shimon di strol nami mishriko shari he holds motor so why does our mission say only that of a guy and that over this us and if you go according to the third cheetah basically forget about a jew forget about it the mishnah says that after pesa we're talking about after pesach one more time i brought it again this is it's a leavening agent that's what this is if i haven't explained it i'll explain it again you take this you pour a little bit of it into your dough mixture and that's what gives it 11. how do you say 11 what is 11 whatever you guys understand 11. no it's not the rising the rising agent is is the is the rising agent i don't think this is this gives it its i don't know okay i don't think it's the rising agent the leavening not the same not the rising the olives and he learns this are by eating from the sauer of having it there mass order so says that just like this leavening agent is it's okay if it's that of a guy in that of heck dish if he deposits ask you to watch this it's not a problem here if it's that of a guy now how is it possible to eat pizza from a guy twice as impossible if the god gives it to you as a present then it's not the guys if you steal from him it's not because it's not the guys it's impossible so what do you say okay so goes according to the so if i was writing the mishnah i would i would love to to publish this tremendous dish that you could eat pizza on pesach provided that it belongs to but it doesn't say that in the mishnah why not because we're talking about hannah of the jew that's us so mellow the opposing thing would be mutterbahn of a guy but it's a much greater khadijah i could even eat it okay we missed that point because we wanted to be consistent with the rest of the michelle with the israelis it just flows nicer the stroller we're talking about after pesach so too the guy after phase but you know what if it's the guys even on pesach even eating it's all good raw so we have one shot in our mission that goes according to review though rover comes along and says no it's rip shimon the middle cheetah that after pesach hummuts and that's why we mentioned yesterday we were reading the mishnah rashi sticks to sin that in fact middle right so you're allowed to benefit from comments just what it's a it's a canas hoylova overall europe about since this person did something bad he was over and out of a row of by so therefore i gave him a canas you can't benefit from it okay of that of a guy it's not a problem what did he do wrong that he was over on bali raw so therefore we gave him yesterday i don't know if mattel was on or not but he didn't correct me i don't know why because i did it quickly after shabbos and i got three for three wrong all three mishkab a review that says that after pesach this is the puzzle what's the mission talking about after pesach i have to pay so what's the possible israel after pesach the green so why does the mishna bring the wrong apostle it tells me the positive of iran in the mission look at the mishnah let me show you now as rashi explains in the mission and that's what ravi explains that laera is the the penalty because you were over and later oh therefore we gave you a penalty awesome don't don't think you're going to benefit from it you left it over in your store on pesach you didn't do anything about it you're not going to be able to benefit you're not going to be able to sell it but according to revacci akov it's not the possible era it's the wrong passage tells me you can't have benefit after after pesach says the gemara me you think that pasuk is talking about the last part of the mishnah the comments of a guy that saw as we said before you learn one story from the other and this is this remember a buddy said this is what the gemaranam obeys is gonna show that it's not true that you're permitted this tremendous you permitted an pesach to benefit from the comments of a guy you allowed to eat it do whatever you want with it says comments this is not even bread this is what creates bread the leavening agent le divordo big nice i had last time i brought this i was going like this i was pouring it over my gemara not realizing that this cover was completely open then i put it back in here and there's a tremendous mess i came back home i gave my wife her leavening agent i just stuck it back in the fridge didn't tell her what happened like this no but she said it's fine it it reproduces you just add a little this and all of that fine nissim nissim of the torah the devil is supposed to be open she said that's why if it's not i'm going to have to remember to whatever i sneak it out put it back kilo la hoya but i have to open it back remind me eat this leavening of a guy after pesach according to that says that after pesach you get malcus makes sense this is the right so it's a lav yes it's not chorus the only chorus we have is on pesach itself i have the pesos to take away the malcus it's alive and mellow alive against malcolm's to teach us that there's no whistler now the mother proves how do we know that doesn't hold what he said he took it back so the question here that we're going to be discussing is does some pesach have any value for what because when you use comments of the bass amigdas on pesach are you over at meila do you have to bring a karba and they have to pay an extra 25 percent it's dependent whether this object has any value if it has zero value so you're not mild you didn't do anything you didn't use the baseline dosh anything yeah it's the it's a loaf of bread owned by the basement the middle of chalamet what tell me what value it has you can't eat it you can't do anything with it so what value now it might have value if you could sell it you could trade it in give it to a guy give it to a dog then maybe it has value and then you would be over the sun now rashi points out right away that this is going according to herb shimon that after pesach it has value so the question is today today on pesa does it have value or not tomorrow it's going to have value that i know after pesach is going to be very valuable you took something that that's valueless khom leibi de ravi renee that is if you shoot somebody and kill somebody and by doing that you made a hole in his jacket with the bullet you're not hive on the jacket because that person that killed is kai of miso if somebody burns a pile of wheat his friend's wheat he goes he wants the he's a arsonist he goes and he burns the guy's wheat on shabbos so since he's kaiv misa for doing it on chavez he's potter for paying for the wheat you could only get the larger of the two punishments khamelei bitter money since this guy is misa he doesn't have to pay the monetary stuff so mela so yom kippur is like shabbos mashab is mishkai bin nafshoi a person who gets misa potter purim is [Music] so that's it so mela this guy is eating comments on pesach chorus so he doesn't have any monetary obligation you take the the larger the two his punishment is karus death by shamayim she's potter from from the from the donut now there's a major question here let me ask you how's the guy high of miso only if he does it on purpose be made if he does it on purpose guess what it's not me la that we learned the other day which one is this decide what he did here did he know what he's doing he hadn't intended his misa then it's not me he didn't have intent and it's mila says rashi it's a toast this kash is a mistake he he made he knew that it was pesach he just didn't know it's hekdish he knew and he didn't know so when it came to pesach miso because he knew he had intent he says i'm i'm being over now comments i know it's pesa but he just didn't know it was owned by the visa mikdash and that he's a shy gay but taiser says something very interesting is a very interesting shita of his kill believe it or not called his kia who says that if a person does something by mistake he kills somebody by mistake he's putter for the jacket if somebody lights a fire by mistake he burns his friend's house down by mistake on shabbos by mistake so he's not high of miso because it's a mistake but he's also potter for paying for the house he's not really he's not liable for the house it's unbelievable it's a cost if you think oh it has to do with the the larger punishment he did something terrible so mela and his missus he doesn't have to pay for the house no over he's not me so mama he did a bit shy gig according to tyson's he did it and bishoggi you still have commonly been the rabbini that places you masculine too okay ravioli vomiter no i only do what isis does somebody told me that he heard a whole shear with somebody my son-in-law told me and i remember heard a whole show about interesting catch 22s and shots and that place disappears in that in that chair raviolis of omar the point whether or not you have the right to redeem this kochem in order to feed it to a dog or to somebody that's not jewish let's say could you redeem it and if you can then it has value if you can't it doesn't have value because since i could redeem it and give it to the dog that has monetary value madame de marx fine now we're turning on the base schmidt learned a little differently everybody agrees you cannot redeem it for a dog you can give it to the dog so where's the monetary value welcome a brand new concept another concept davar hagoyrim le moment commandame something that has value tomorrow is it considered as if it has value right now so this comments right now is zero value zero but tomorrow after pesach it's very valuable is that considered money today is it considered monetary value today let me ask you something what about a check a check it says uh in a week from now the check is good deposit in a week from now is that davar hagari le mamin or not no what does deuteronomy say is yes what do you say anybody anybody on zoom is a check that's valuable tomorrow so malaysia mellie deichmann and bernhard and who did i just see from toronto oh jay spitzer shalom alaikum jay so a check it doesn't it says a thousand dollars but it's only good for me to deposit in a week from now double marriage huh that's that value now oh reuben saying somebody will buy it there you go reuben is right a check that that you could deposit in a week from now has value today it's not a thousand dollars or 500 people will buy it for for something they'll buy for seven hundred dollars a nine hundred dollars whatever it is it has value but comments on pesach has zero value you can't do anything with it right now right now you can't eat it you can't do anything with it so you have to wait a week oh wait a week that's that's something else says [Music] it's does it have value today or not and finally i don't know if you realize we're trying to get to one point the reward took everybody agrees that it should have value today because in a week from now it has value before the verb shimmy come in the mechanical is this famous mechanics review the shimmer is there is an after pace it never has value look at this xxx even after pesach it doesn't have value um he holds check you could use it after pesach mma law it has value says he says that of hegdesh is mutter on pesa ella that's what he said before hello you see that he doesn't hold of that at all he just said a second ago that according to the review that's also the zero hanover what do you mean zero no he said it's multuran pesach he took it back he holds it's not muthuran peso that's why this is zero hannah ravashi omar the kuliamo ain poydem vidovar hagorium le mammoin love kimon dummy so everybody holds you cannot redeem it you can't give it to the dog without going to the moment live come on dummies i'm a melo right now it's not valuable at all don't don't say oh you kuwait no right now doesn't have that so what's the shiloh well i'll be plugged i can leave the very bottom here going back to the smart locust look rebje says you could you could benefit from it even on pesach he says check you could benefit from it so mandom that you could benefit from it and therefore if you can benefit from something from egg dish it's these two review the room shiman holding another benefit on pesach israel boys here we go a beautiful sugiyo that will if you pay attention now it's very valuable for many many different things so we have like this we want to talk about short so get don't worry about it short suggest we want to talk about chametz on pesach if you mix it into something that that's not hummus you take comments it happens in the hotels you take by mistake i was in hotel hour i'll tell it happened to us we didn't realize that the vinegar was mahmutz and they made food with it so what's that so in a regular our hotel because we run it and own it so we were able to a lot of hotels i heard from him it's not not the same thing sometimes they just whatever fine back upon him and it goes into the mixture now the torah says akri ravim lahatois we go by the rove whatever the majority is so that's maybe when the things are dry dry good you have a piece of matzo a piece of bread got mixed in if more matzo than bread fight but when it's liquid and you're cooking it now we have to deal with nuisance does it impart flavor not empire flavor also the idea of mimbino so let me i just want to because i don't have a real good picture for it this is mimbi mino so we don't this is kosher pesa and this over here is mahmosh comet's traif but look how little we got over here i didn't even have to do this what was left over you see this so this is so if i put these two together they have the same flavor it's the same everything so rav and schmoe say it's impossible even vator this this tiny bit of hummus these few grains of flour that go into here with the with the kosher peso flower are a hundred percent user why because it's the same product but if i take oh and this is for you gary when i'm done with with this you're gonna like this look at this although you know what let me take it out of the bag first i could touch it with my hands and i'll give it to you this was a gift look at this ah see this my neighbor made this i got this as a gift yesterday i showed it somebody from muncie said that he's been learning the dot for 30 years and he finally gets the duff so he gave me a whole box of these it's beautiful stuff it's called a chocolate bomb this this woman lives right behind us on uh next to noam it's called sweet tooth if anybody she didn't ask me to say this this is so beautiful that you put this in a hot glass of milk and it explodes out comes chocolate and marshmallows combination but it looks really good i'm giving this to the gary's matano he's going to try it out and he's going to tell me if you put these two things that have no connection with each other you put this huh hot milk yeah we'll try it out right now put these two in it's it's min so that's different that's that's less of a problem when it's the same men major problem so let's see inside now so you know what well just as uh i don't know if you could even read this we have an pesach and after pesach ravagemul are similar in a way and rebecca is different raf says masuhu if it's a very small amount of comets like we just showed it doesn't matter even louis bemino right we said mino is the biggest problem it's the same thing flower and flower comet and and matzah is a big problem but even shalom mina is usur why would rav say that throughout the tutorial we don't say that when it comes to khalev and bashar we don't say that comments we say that he makes a zera why because muhammad has karas and kharmet loi bidili people are not careful with comments they don't know they don't recognize they use the same they use this vinegar vinegar and it comes into paste i'm going to use the same vinegar they don't realize that there's something to worry about whereas the whole year you're worried about blood you're worried about hail have you worried about all this stuff shmuel says if it's just a mushroom that's what they're talking about the smallest amount that doesn't give a flavor it doesn't give nice and time so only minoi is also like everything else in the torah there's no special zero when it comes to and rebecca argues and he says that if it's a mashup it has to be nice in time it has to give only flavor makes a mixture user that's on pesa after pesach rav agrees that mashu's us are only bimena he doesn't make xero shalom and and he holds like rabbi huda that after pesach comments his asar so therefore mashu is user shmuel argues with him and says that we don't go like tribute we go with with rip shimon that after pesach is mutter so even a mixture is mother and there's a very cool russia tavis in the sugiya neusentam number of tess so remember that yeah okay he says fine but it goes better i've seen places where it's written with above no you've never seen okay what's the version for possible holo we're not getting there we're not even going to touch that word today all right it's more inside oh my it doesn't matter if it's mixed with the with another item like that chocolate it's awesome the bigger dish is the chocolate then the then then flour with flour shalom's [Music] so this is rav so let's talk about it for a second since the game with my skin on is a fancy way to say one and sixtieth it imparts flavor and typically we say that means one and sixtieth anything less than one in sixty if it's one in sixty one it doesn't empire flavor [Music] so you're telling me an imparts flavor and if it imparts flavor after pesach because we hold a crib yehuda that after pesach it's awesome after pesa but in imparted flavor so who cares if it's a different thing so what if it's a chocolate and flower it imparted flavor to the chocolate or the flour put flavor into it so it should be awesome it's not a noise in tom no it's a mashup you can't you can't taste it in the mixture so therefore hummus bismani if it's on pesach there's a lot of words here but it's not complicated if you look at it for a second you'll see it's not complicated why why is hummus in a mixture not with its type uh when all over the torah when you can taste it if i take a piece of fatty pork and put it into my chalt and you cannot taste the pork chop is different well i took the beans whatever and then i mixed it in there i can't taste it it shall be me know it's mother yeah if it's the same exact thing this and where's the other one this and this biminoi it's even the smallest amount like in this container [Music] what shall i be mean thank you but if it's not the same thing if it's this guy and this guy you need to you need to taste the flour if you don't taste it it's a hundred percent mother so rav gaza comes is very different than everything else in the torah comments has chorus and hummus nobody's careful with not that they're not careful they don't know how to be careful seven days of the year that you have to do this mitzvah so they don't know how to be careful and therefore he made it zero shiloh biminoi he took the schlebermino the chocolate and the flower and he said that's also awesome otto mino because of flour and flour bismani and when it's not pesach anymore pesach is over so rib yehuda in pesach over says still uh sir but not chorus not chorus you don't have to make x zero the whole point of the zero is because this car is you don't have that reason after pesach it's just the lav alive like like so mellow he didn't make the xero visualizer did i skip that man after sasuke [Music] i don't have to make such a crazy example all right so aquaponics see that at least according to rav muhammad is more humber than all these surah natara yes you have to be more careful with a mixture of comments on pesach than a mixture of hazer during the weekday mother comes along says he holds with this concept we're going to see in a second that kali surum shabbat mashup they agree rav just says you have to make zero compare the two min and chaleby min and shimon says don't compare the two don't make xavier and pesa so therefore khamenes bismanov let's go like the rest of the torah if you mix a flower that's comets with a flower that's matzo then it's saucer shalomino but if you take flour mix it with chocolate mother but after pesach everything is you know why because i shmuel hold like ripped shim in the after pace after there's no auxiliary at all there's no lab so everything is moved after pesach the gemara explains nicely bismani biminui tame the rav the shmuel that what there's a difference between with the same item and a different item if it's the same item the macho meaning without nice and time it doesn't give any flavor at all also you cannot be mavato lid at all how can you battle it it's in there you don't taste it sham alaikum you don't taste it it's the same exact as the comments hey how are you going to taste it you can't taste it it's not something you can taste on your taste buds summer melon sauce but if you you take flour and you throw it into chocolate if you don't taste it it means it's not there it's not there along not because it's the same it's different than if you don't taste it it's it's mother and i don't hold like rav shalom not to meet him like gaza i'm not going to make xavis here i have no reason to make x here and why does she say that after pesach it's all mother bench i mean i hold the group shimon that after pesach there's no comments wait a minute didn't we just say the reprimand holds it after pencil there is uh for that we're gonna have to wait till tomorrow not in a mixture there's a knack yeah a donut if you leave over a donut a piece of pizza from pesach yes it's not not in a mixture okay here simple stuff comments bismani i need it to impart flavor weather oh so you hear this flower and flower says reby i need flavor if i don't taste it not awesome very different than raven schmoe only when there's a flavor tasted then it's also no flavor tasted and after pesach according to who is [Music] so if you could taste it it's awesome you can't taste it even in minbino even the same exact items flour and flour you cannot taste not also baby originally [Music] and therefore and this is polished after pesach i hold a group of shimon that there is no issue so it doesn't matter min schleberman have a wonderful wonderful day and week [Music] aloysius [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Applause] is i forgot to say a happy birthday keep us all away check him out happy can you believe he's only 12 years old only 12 it's unbelievable these kids how do these kids do it