Daf Yomi Pesachim Daf 25 by R’ Eli Stefansky

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have hasidim this is a very interesting email this one is from johnny duffy dear robbie stefanski hope you are well my name is johnny duffy from wicklow in ireland as you can imagine i'm living in non-torah society my background is catholic irish but bar hashem the truth has been revealed to me and i want to convert kitseri goes on to say that there's no hasidic rabbi in ireland but he gets he reads the kid sir it keeps on going torah anytime please do not think that i'm flattering you but from all the daffy yummy teachers it is you to i'm the i am warm and most feel the connection to your manner of teaching kitser one of his brothers told him online you are the best kid sir he goes on and on and on he's a barista with a weird one of those wigs you know like in england kind regards and benched johnny duffy we don't know about these things p.s when i eventually become aguero bezrus hashem i should take the name mordechai all right very good should i have a lot of anybody see lave i just saw him recently okay so we are holding today's cafe we're holding we're supposed to be holding the cafe but we must go back because we stopped smack in the middle of a suyu two four six eight ten eleven we could say about we could look inside a little bit the eleven lines from the bottom are marabaya so we had a sugiya where ruby says that ali surim in the torah you only get malcus if you use them in the manner they were designed to be used you eat food so you get malcolm if you take the food and put it on a wound you take the food you smear it on yourself you're not however comes the buying says when it comes to clay karim if you plant seeds in a vineyard since the tire doesn't use the word so means even shiloh there kind of assay okay so claire karim is different than everything else if you use it you like it there kind of also you take whatever grows out and you rub it on your body you're hive so the gemara asks an amazing question think if you were able to come up with such a question it's only a six step question that's it we'll review about pe very positive it says this is the steps are very simple just six steps it goes like this how could you tell me the klayakarim if you use it shallow kedarkana also we know you're very familiar with blasphemous you can't eat it how do you know you can't eat it it doesn't say the torah what right what does that mean translate loy savage about do not cook do not cook the milk of adi but let's fashion don't cook the the with its mother's milk where does it say you can't eat it or you can't benefit from it for that you need russia's you need russia so hamar says what's the direction we learned yesterday because there's a cavalcademy from arla that's how we know from our if our law you never did an aveira with it it just grew out of the ground you didn't do anything you planted a seed for three years it's awesome so certainly barcelona that you took one thing and you cooked it with the other and the third says don't cook it you did it anyway you're hive says the gemara and step number two and let's remember this one it's an important step to get rid of the kawahimer you hear avi step number two arlo never had chassa culture our law from the moment it was planted it was oscar for three years whereas bhasava khalif one minute you could drink a cup of milk the next minute you made israel with it you turned it into nissa but it had a shasta kaiser it was once mutter he says the gemara oh i'll prove it to you step three from comets of kosher right before pesach peso comes along you can't says the gemara oh look at this oh it does we can fold it though right just get these steps in step one two three we're holding step four comments is different because hummus has chorus it's very very strong it's very humber so what about step five clay akarim this is this is the point we want because we're talking about client camera has no chorus and it's still awesome says the gemara so here's step six according to you there is no step six you hear what kumar is asking unbelievable according to you there should be a step six what step six client karen is so strong that you get malcus even shall i get there maybe this word lawyer is not good you get malcus even schleichadera take this out anybody have a pencil i don't want to start ripping this up okay we might have to take it out hold on this is bad this was not on purpose okay i think so don't soon uh gonna say no it has to say like you like uh so that ruins the copperheimer according to you abbaya that you get malcus if you just take clay camera you rub it on your skin so you can't learn bhasavakala from it it's a weird thing it's like there and then again more goes on but think about how would you come up with such a kasha you got to go through all these steps to get to the cash so let's take it from the top because since we learned it already yesterday and we just reviewed about pe from the it's step two step two we're holding on was never motor from the moment you planted it to the moment you want to use it it was never melted forever impossible hollow choice of the shasta kaiser it's different than basma khalaf that you're allowed to drink milk you like to drink meat you just now put them together once you put them together become awesome oh so i'm going to pull out step three muhammad is going to prove it to me coffee with comments from foreign because comments in pesach is so severe that you get karis karis and then we go to that's step four step five clack i'm going to prove it and that's the connection to our sugiyo because we're talking about klayakarim you plant seeds in a vineyard and you see the wheat seeds vegetable seeds the clay apparently becomes a banana and there's no there's no chorus see you see that chorus is not what causes this right now karen doesn't have cars and is this at all the imi saw here's the gemara's bomb and if it's true about you what you're telling me that claire karim you're malcus even shalom also even not in the intended way that it was designed and planted for me it's so severe it's so different than muhammad than the embassador of how could you learn a bhasavakala from clay carrot it's different you get it you get you get an ionish for taking a piece of wheat a grape and going like this on your skin it's it's it's that's severe so how could i learn buzzball hollow is what's the cash of a club every carbohymer every pericle you have to you have to you have to you have to continue the sentence so what's the what's the what's the sentence here how could i learn bossa bakalov from clay acarium you know clay karem if you use it but it's different whilst the hell is not different think about it we just started off right avi you avi not that avi different one before's you avi said impossible it doesn't say anything about akhila and we said that why is it that by a karen that if you use it not in its regular manner because it doesn't say the word akilah guess what doesn't either say so with the same spar the same logic say also if you don't use it in its design manner so what's the what's the other one's kasia it's a great by saying why did the torah not say every jew knows the first thing you described basically you keep kosher vasava khalif and the torah doesn't even say it the torah doesn't even say don't eat basically where am i learning about of rasheed says loved africa doesn't mean a veil we just learned it from trevor okay trey from the vela same thing available also that's exactly why the torah didn't specify achilla that you learn it from the veil and avail you only have like we said if you're taking a veil put in your mouth you're kaya we take the veil and put it on your wound your potter [Music] by iba to teach us fakert like i said should like in allah the only thing it says about you that you don't get that you do get malcus i'm sorry clay i can't even get marcus and so basically says okay so once we're talking about this giant cavaclamer this back and forth starting from arlo going from arlo to muhammad's comments to claire karim so now we're holding that claire karim is what causes basa bachala to be usually bachila well i have another cache that says the gemara forget it's very very how can you learn the reason you already eat bus or bachala it doesn't say nitoriality it says you're not a cook the reason i think you know how to eat bastable health is because i learned from clay accurate but claire karim is very strong karim was born user right when you plant a tree from day number one the tree is awesome whereas bhasavahala if you're allowed to drink milk you like eat meat you just now put them together so how can you learn one from the other the gemara understands now that the only time player carrying his oscar uh claire karim his oscar is when it grows latino mars have amino what's the gemara's answer that it's us or even before it grows we live in here from the fact that the gemara learns al basable color from clay karam i learned a tremendous insight but you saw it that when i planted it becomes also forget about the offshoots and the growths the acre becomes awesome even before it takes root it becomes also massive is that true that huh misability before yeah before yeah yeah correct voices russia before we know the the concept of otsnokov you have a perforated pot here's just a picture from shabbos that we learned here's a path and you have a pretty large hole that a route could come through so that's considered as if it's planted in the ground it could take nourishment from the ground through that hole you're taking this pot through a vineyard interesting allah imagine us unbelievable you have to sit there with a calculator i'm not exactly sure how you do it and think about it if you have a very large apple uh we're not talking about apples we're talking about wheat but so a large fruit this this large what's one two hundredth of that will take some time to grow but if your your thing is this small one one two hundredth might be i don't know an hour i don't know i'm not a farmer you can ask them how long it takes to grow so it could be it could be a question of hour hours if it's hanging around in the vineyard for the amount of time that it takes to add 200 what's 200 200 is the amount of beetle when it comes to clay karen we had the other day by truma if you have a hundred barrels of hulan and one barrel of trimmer falls in the truma is as if it doesn't exist it's bottle over here is double you need two hundred one in two hundred okay if it grew while it was traveling over the vineyard then that fruit becomes also hoisif in loy heisse it's mashima first of all it's whatever whatever is added becomes us or not whatever was there before becomes also so what are you telling me that everything becomes awesome on my rava trade croix cv in the saint patrick there's two words here's the paso we had this yesterday now we're focusing yesterday we're focusing on this word and the pen and tis means whatever gru zera means seeds so sort of a contradiction these words contradict each other is it what grows or what you plant is it the seed or what grew after you planted the seed okay ted oh how do we reconcile the the contradiction russia if you're planting a seed the plastic is actually telling you two separate of zera planting a seed you need it to take root when it comes to an existing plant then this allah of whatever the new growth so if it grew more great and and that part is awesome if not fine brand new sugar boys today by the way you can heal somebody with anything in the world any product the size of a dessert tree no anything goes when it comes to medicine besides of a desire tree from hey and if there's no danger at all stop he has a little fever i feel called some sure i thought you're not me lawyers i could use comments i could use our law i could use anything what's the difference between avid zara and all the other surum la ilam de kisakana of course this is even if the person is going to die without having the same rebels we say it every day at least three times four times a day you serve with your whole nephesh and then it says with all your money with everything you have if it says with your with your goof even if somebody comes to kill you you have to give up your body if i go so of course your money is what are you going to tell me that people like money more than their own bodies so save money but why they need both if there's a person out there that loves his money his goof his body more than his money there are people so there's two people there's a person that likes his body more than money rashid learns pashit that if a person needs a raphua he's going to die and the doctors tell him use this tree you can't use it twices learns that it's this is the only tree in the world this tree has some sort of it's possessed by a shade and therefore if he uses it he might think that the tree has super powers and melee can't use it but otherwise maybe he could use it if there's other trees like that it's because this is the only tree so last time we learned this in brachas davi's question is which human being loves his money so much that he's willing to give up his body i mean once he's dead he's not gonna have money it doesn't even make sense so i told you the story about first of all is the famous joke a guy was driving down the street with his hand out the window feeling the air and the truck came and took off his hand and the first thing he screamed at is oh my rolex my rolex fine that's the that's the joke but it's not a joke because i was i told you when we were learning broncos i had an employee tim 15 years he worked by me he actually just called me when i was in chicago see what's going on tell me about his new life in minnesota and he he told me that he's very very sick and he needs a serious surgery so i said no so when are you going to do the surgery he says he's not doing the surgery he started cursing the doctors he said these doctors that take way too much money he's not going to give them he's not going to give them the surgery money he said you're going to die he says i'd rather die than give them the money so that was last time we learned it and then yesterday when i was learning i was thinking myself maybe we're all guilty of of this of this idea in a way so let's say technology comes up with a way that i could give you a year of my life so somebody's terminally ill comes to somebody else and says listen i will give you a hundred thousand dollars give me one year of your life i don't think anybody will give up a life hundred thousand dollars what about a million dollars no yet we work our whole life everybody wants a million dollars and we work we go to the office at five o'clock in the morning and come back at nine o'clock at night for what for the million dollars so in other words we're trading our time which you can never get back our life for a few bucks i mean ultimately it should be like he went to the store he opened up his farm store when he got his ruble he locked the doors and finished that's it he went back to learn but that's not what we do we go to get that extra buck we do everything but on the count of what of a count of time which we can never get back so in a way mamayana is just in a way i mean alma not having losing everything you have is miso but are you willing to trade this for this that's the island okay they did both they lost their money and they jumped off the buildings zaghda gemara as we just mentioned gila arrives the famous story in sanhedrin that hey where a person went to the doctors and the doctors told him if he won't be with this woman and there's a child over there if she was aisha she's not anxious they even she couldn't even talk to her from behind the fence why shall you believe this from prude toys or but okay so when it comes to gilderoy rice you cannot be wrapping yourself during that fail base guess what this is today we're free there's no sponsors trust me i am happy official from official catering is not happy this is his idea he's going to do in the karma watch a couple of phone calls and we're not accepting from official yes i don't know with clark so maybe we'll uh let's use this time to learn torah we finally got a minute that we could go by there unless noah wants to tell us about the sponsorships today [Laughter] here he goes here he goes all right no no no i can't i can't i don't want i don't want to remark i don't want to hustle anybody fine look at this nom you could kill a person by embarrassing him the public when you turn the page and you say sponsor not sponsors okay it's uh there's a reason why it's here no somebody wrote me an email that he didn't he's new to this year he said that i have to be like like uh spiegelman he remember lauren lauren is like how do you speak like that to judah like he was here for like three days and he's like give me a vision by robin it's like no no wait wait wait two weeks and now he came to he's like okay so somebody wrote an email says he messed up and then you called him out i know i want to tell them that so rabbi whoever you are who wrote me the email you need to know a little bit this is nothing what i did yesterday i actually was i killed him i'm purim he's dead since foreign what happened was i'll explain to you because he's not part of this year before purim daelon they they thought i'm such a bhagava they'll just show me what they think about me such a bug i would probably want my face a plaster on every bus going through bajamish so they went and they got me matana it's all seriousness they got my brother drawing the eight minute dive and a big giant picture of ellie's the fan scheme people are posing next to it so i was a little embarrassed it's a it was out of boucha i went and i i got a poster that was how how big 40 feet by 10 feet tall and i hung it up on my porch and in it was a picture of avi kamianski and noam fix completely bald and it said hair transplant 1-800-1257 that was my way of getting them back so if they wanted my voice from that if i didn't kill him that but it was only for the day of purim i took it off after porn still i was mobilizing my purim you know how to kill even rabbis i killed noah and avi but i found out later that's a tremendous tremendous they take tremendous pride in the fact that they're bald even if you give them a pill that the girl that we refused both of them so anyway so it was actually i gave them covet not to whatever so anyways if you know that maybe you won't have a shiloh on what i did yesterday you'll have a shy lamp could we learn now okay if we gain nothing out of this let's just you know what let's do a sponsorship sponsored by official from official catering so you cannot heal yourself with availability and how do you know you can't help heal yourself from gila rice and murder in other words if somebody tells you i will kill you unless you kill soho so i'm saving myself you can't do that design your rebbe oy man yokom is who's being raped she's engaged so she's married muras in those days engagement is like marriage higashiyakum she's like it's similar to a case that somebody comes to kill somebody else it's like murder says what's the connection between murder and rape hare is about allah you would think that the torah is saying that the naira marasa is like ruth no it's the opposite now i'm learning if this russia comes to this married woman and he wants to do a miso you kill him you could kill him to save her a murderer you go ahead and kill him to save your own life when i ever also married samaritan just like byretico if somebody tells you kill somebody else i'll kill you you need to be killed you can't kill somebody murasa tyson is gurus over here look at the tap tyson's the first words johar egg valjavar if somebody forces you to do anes you have to kill yourself you have to let yourself be killed why does that say because a woman with derek cloud there is case there are cases a woman is kaikaku she's not over she doesn't do it unless she's doing a mice okay how do we know that you shouldn't kill somebody else this is the gemara again a guy they come over the guy a bad guy nazi comes over to drew says i will kill you this second unless you go and you kill plein almighty so you have to take the bullet how do you know that sorrow common sense and if not i will kill you you have to be killed and not kill someone else why the famous line is the dog who said that your blood is redder than your friend in other words who says that who loves you more than the other guy dilma domino maybe that guy's blood is redder than your blood you have to see this amazing rashi inside says rashid i don't know 15 lines from the top just guess what you have to save your own life so go ahead and kill another jew says rob with him why am i allowed to be over in avera because there's two availas one is losing a jewish soul and the other one is eating treyfraser so anyways there's going to be something wrong here so let's eat trey frazer and we'll save this problem of losing the soul however the kind of very nasty is venezuela but over here anyways you're being over navero he's he's doing retsiikha and the jew is is going to lose his life she didn't gain anything what'd you gain but rashi says and but okay but there's tuna fascists there's reuben and shimon so maybe i should take his life and save my life he says rashi amazing [Music] who loves your soul more than that one dil at the end of the day it comes out that there's an average of because plus a lost nephesh and you might have picked the wrong one who told you that who loves you more than him so i don't know for sure but i'm looking it over here and it seems to me what if that nephesh is the rambam the rambam the rambam versus the guy that talks in the middle of the shots rasheed doesn't make any distinction here maybe we'll pick another the guy talks to schneider occasionally and the rambam rashi says here imagine there's no there's no jew in the world that you could say that a gospel who loves him more than you unbelievable remember this rashi every yid is possible possible because loves you for it's worth more that you should be in this world than moshe rabbenu because there's no there's no distinction it doesn't say oh if he's gonna die then then then then he's allowed to kill the other guy he's allowed to listen to the guy doesn't say that every jew you have this this side and then they have people that that are that are i'm saying if a guy is is a is a keifer you can't say oh because brock loves him a guy that doesn't do the right thing doesn't do the right thing it's obvious we want to say okay fine if i was home now i would skip these four lines but they would they would happen so we saved that again ravina ravashi the ones that wrote the shas so you have the son of the author of together with the author of shastra vinna he noticed that he's rubbing this oil weird oil it's from unripened olives but it was arla arlo how could you how could you use that we said okay you're allowed to use anything for medicine but that's because she's about to die your daughter's not gonna die by the way yesterday when i was learning from cabrusa so i said oh we we just learned something like this recently he's like no no you're talking about shabbos that's that was when mom's like that he's like that is when uh rav bibi in order to to remove his daughters here he would rub oil on each part of her body independently and then the geisha neighbors saw that and he was able to sell her or the mukaddish or 400 zoos got a great price for her and then the guy did the same exact thing but he did it in her entire body and his daughter died and he'd run around the street and say ravi killed myself my daughter where baby killed my daughter that's what you're talking about yeah that's what i'm talking about okay fine just a guy that knows all shots like this is economy um this is what you also learned about in in avid zorro that there's a it's a very high fever type of fever that's very dangerous okay fine it's not style it's like covered very dangerous i just said that for tomer levy in case he's watching it i mean so i i'm not doing it in the normal manner i'm not drinking the oil i'm not lighting chanukah there's i'm rubbing weird younger olives on on her body that's that that's nothing you're not over from that what happens if you don't really intend to have this hana and it's a i think it's a little bit of what zalman josefson was asking me yesterday he he digested something back we see in a second [Applause] so we have a macholikis here what happens and we're going to go into it to understand better what's going on here in a situation where here so reuven shade made this uh beautiful drawing for us so here you have a desire you have this is a gnome street some of this are going on here's mdy the basement brush you're over here with a gemara you would need to get here so you could go on this route you go this route this route has a sticker of a dessert coming out a little smell huh a good smell yeah good smell shimaki smell you didn't go there to to inhale it but it came in to go this way or not so this is f sharp you could go another way or lay option means it's longer y f sharp doesn't mean it's impossible elijah means to to to take uh the the the long cut says the gimbal should we just go through this small pet for a second okay i don't want to make it complicated there's there's two things here f sharp and mchaven do i have intent to enjoy the smell do i want it and then the other the other thing that we have to contend with is f sharp could he go in another route could he not go on another route those two things now the way this chart works is the the check means this is what happened yes he's mahavin yes he has another route yes and what's the outcome x bad bad news so one thing is positive we're not going to even discuss these first two cases that's partial to just to make it very simple if you have another way to go around to not smell that available and your mchaven it's a no-brainer that you're over bad now if you don't have another option and you don't want to smell it you don't have another option i need to get to show and there's only one street and i don't have carvana i don't want to smell it so there's no question in the world that it's motor okay in both of those shoulders we're gonna see both of the shoulders just to confuse ourselves a little bit so these two cases are a no-brainer when you have both in both directions there's no shyla so where's the shiloh is when you split it up it's not that it's loyal there's no other way and so according to this in the beginning of the gemara if it's absurd you don't have another way to go so what do you see kavanagh ruins it all if you're having to smell it i don't care if you have another option now you want to have another form of a zorro no good no good it's always kavanaugh always ruins it okay and where's the macholicas mcclain is going to be when you don't have carvana you don't have carvana but you have another route so the desert comes into your nose you didn't want it you know it came in but you have another route or you have to go on the other route that's my floyd goes abbay and robert by says motorola versus also so what's inside abayoma mutares robomasuro f komenhaven if it's the top one no shiloh al-malik please sir yeah tavana and you could go another route awesome that's mamish so lawyer again what does it mean not that there's no other way a hundred percent the other way is 25 seconds longer that's loyal more that's why i'm emphasizing it listen i i don't have to go out of my way and i don't want to enjoy the smell 100 water so where's the home when you could go another route so i was over it's equal here here's the picture you see these two routes they're mama's equal i go this way i can go through a river go through a knot but i have zero carvana i don't want to be over this sir that's where i have a macholicus and what's the mclaren is dependent on i'll leave the review though going back to mr chavez double chain miscavign i drag a bench and by dragging the bench i'm making a ditch in the ground but i don't want the ditch in the ground that's not my comeback my bonus to get the bench from a to b when i'm doing so i'm over over here i want to go to shul in doing so a smile comes into my nose but i don't want it i don't want it here same case oh we're not going to secretia tyson says there's no secret here thank you but we're not going to go into it secretion means it's 100 going to happen then it's even resistant agrees that it's also it's not 100 gonna happen according to review who says that if i don't have intent it's 100 percent officer so over here cooli amilo please then according to everybody this is a case of isr holds this case is a motor domain ability why because i don't have kavanaugh to smell david zara over there richmond said it in a case where it's a very heavy bench if it's a light bench he's able to lift it up and not drag it rip shimmy according to rava only will hold that it's us at the dragon so over here then he has another route let him go the other route ramsey never said he's motor oh now let's see ikidami so the first two we don't have to talk about it's the same if you have another route and you have bad intentions to smell it you are over if you don't have another route and you have zero intention to smell it you're not over where's according to this in a case that it's you don't have another route but you have kavanaugh over here about is going to say it's mother and rover is going to say saucer and in the reverse case where you have another route but you have zero kavanaugh it's going to be much like it's between rib yehuda and rip shimon in dover miscavin that we just mentioned so let's see inside garrison we need some air conditioner i know it's cold outside but it's it's mama's hot is anybody else hot here i'm spitting away he look at him he's sitting there with three coats do we have anybody oh eight zero zero all right ikida right over here the bottom one ef that's so right over here is i'm sorry did i mess this chart up keep always says you have to see what his intent is because he had kavanaugh you see green check yet cavanaugh so it's awesome listen to this this is almost counter-intuitive listen to this unbelievable according to rabbi yehuda f shar i have the ability to go another route and i'm not mchavin what's the allah also in other words there's no distinction between kavanaugh and not cavanagh going to review them from here we prove it doesn't matter if you have kavanaugh what matters is f sharp f share is what counts oh says abaya therefore if it's then according to behuda would be motor because there's no distinction between scavenge and let me scavence as a bio unbelievable so in this case of f sharp uh where are we if you can't go another route says abaya according to review that just proved to you that here in the mathematics between review then ruby shimon review that says all that counts is efsa cavanaugh doesn't matter at all so in this case right over here with lawyer afshar rib yehuda is going to agree that it's muther why because all i care about is absolutely there's no distinction between kavanaugh and cavanaugh unbelievable counterintuitive review that always says it's or where he's gonna say his mother because all that counts is efsa and on that rather says an amazing thing about holds like so to speak because all that counts is efficient not kavanaugh verona all my love just two more words where does review to say that havana kavanaugh is when i want to be mockman on somebody on chavez i say i don't care if he had kavanagh he dragged the bench he's hive to make a homura have a miscaving shame he's kind of cool allah but you want to say that because a person that kavanagh means nothing right now all that i care about is f sharp and that's going to turn into a major kula that means according to value that becomes mutual in this case to say that there's no difference between kavanaugh nakavana to make something muthur who says that would be the agrees to that rabid only uses that svara to make this case of dragging a bench oscar not to make something motor have a wonderful day nah nothing you're gonna do tell them nice [Music] foreign