Daf Yomi Nedarim Daf 75 by R’ Eli Stefansky

Good morning boys. Yesterday we learned the Sugya of Yevamos. So typical typical fashion Yevamos doilem ran away. We have half doilem here today. We're getting out of it. Don't worry about it. Here's a picture of me on the plane tonight on the way to Miami for Shabbos. This Yitzy Grossberg is already going to Miami to prepare for the Siyum right now. The tzaddik sitting next to me that took the picture didn't realize the the significance of getting you in the picture along with the Gemara. But if you look carefully at the reflection in the window, you can see the shear on my phone. Of course I will not be in Miami for the Siyum. I'll be in RBS when you're in Miami. Looking forward to seeing you in the two in two weeks. Hopefully you're still in RBS when I call. Pastor Lyman's Shabbos by Kesher Nafshi. The Talmud says Yuma. Yitzy Grossberg. Good morning Rebbi. It's been well over a year since I've begun watching. It's constantly gotten better and better. So this is an email that I'm working on my on my guy here. I wouldn't read it if I was momish on the top of my game. Thanks for always trying to improve it as well as to all those that assist in that whether they want to be stay anonymous or not. You know, they've become a household name in my house for the past year when my kids pointed out on their own that they recognize the bull holes in the casinos in Jersey smooth like a baby's cheek. At least it means that you haven't aged much in almost 10 years. I've watched you for so long that I've even noticed changes in your preparation and delivery as well as subtle changes like recently when starting a new mission you started to call it Zuk Tehei Mishna and not just simply the official Mishna. I always used to say Zuk Tehei Mishna. Just official ruined it a little bit but you were going back to Okay. I'm getting better. You see I'm getting better. Everybody getting better. It's not a guy that says oh you're the greatest. I'm getting better. Yeah, everybody is allowed to improve, no? I still would love to come down to Miami if I can find someone to join me and find accommodations. All the best and keep on going. Moishe F. Here is Reb Joey Newcomb. Here we go. I need the a wire Rebbi. Hey Rebbi, what are you going to say? Rebbi I'm staying. Rebbi I'm every time I see the from the shear doilem just makes me want to sing. The shaila is when is Joey joining us? Huh? I'm calling him out. Joey you need to join the I know you're my cashier and the whole thing in the Yeshiva by my tired haver of Groner but no, you got to do the all souls. Reb boys I the Siyum are starting to come in. Here we got in Manchester. Please join us for the Y Manchester Siyum Thursday. Only $10 a person. Beer, cholent, kugel. Ah, how much is that? It's $11 says the tzaddik from Eliyahu from Manchester. Ari Tyberg, I'll be in Israel mid-January. When is the last shift in Beit Shemesh before the Miami Siyum? So I personally am leaving January 24th. The Siyum in Miami is the 25th. So be the Siyum will be a shear that morning. The Siyum is on the 25th. What did I say? Oh. The Siyum will be here Monday but I'm saying in terms of the shear he wants to know if he if I'll be here that the morning of the 24th. I'll be here the morning of the 24th. The shaila is when am I when am I getting back? The trip gets keeps getting extended and extended. It seems like I'm going from Miami to Colorado to Los Angeles. After snowboarding, yeah. After. But in Los Angeles to be there for Shabbos with my son Akiva. So that's already another Shabbos. So one Shabbos in Miami, one Shabbos in Los Angeles. Because we're going from side to side. Huh? No, man. Huh? Maybe. We'll see. Might have to stay in America for a few months till the next Siyum. All right. Reb boys I in Ors who's mayfer with her father died. What about the Siyum here? When's the Siyum here in RBS? Tuesday night? I'll be here. I'll be able to be here right before my flight. On Lachish in that hall on Lachish. Sign up. It's only 250 shekel a person but we'll give you a big discount if you sign up today. An Ors who's mayfer with her father died. You have Ors and a father. But the the the guy the Ors dies. And what happens when he dies? She falls to Yibum. They weren't mayfer. They could be mayfer. According to Reb Akiva RA, Reb Akiva the Yavam can't be mayfer, right? We had the whole Mishna yesterday. The Yavam can't be mayfer. So the question is could the father be mayfer now? Now that you don't have a Yavam and you don't have Ors. Before it was a partnership. Father and husband. Husband dies. A new sort of husband falls into place called the Yavam. But he Reb Akiva says he doesn't count. We don't look at him. He can't do halacha What about the father? Could the father himself do halacha? Another shaila now we're going to at the end of today's daf we're going to talk about mikvah a lot. So there's a famous shaila when does a person become tahor? When he goes into the mikvah and dunks or when he comes out of the mikvah? And maybe we could see a raya from our Gemara one way or another. So yesterday uh the Kolel is sponsored by anonymous from Lakewood. The Kolel bonus is a bonus given by the Gordon family as a bonus on top of the Kolel guy's check. The learning Reb Gordon gave I don't know if he wants to say but I'll say anyways. There's no anonymous in MDY. He gave $1,000 to the Kolel. The learning on two Batevus January should be for Yerachmiel alav hashalom ben Yisrael sheyichyeh. If you weren't part of the shear then uh it was during COVID when Yerachmiel was very sick with a brain tumor in the hospital and we didn't know who this person was. He used to come on Zoom every single day for months and we couldn't figure it out. It said Chop. Chop stands for Children's Hospital of of Pittsburgh. Of Philadelphia. Sorry. Philadelphia. And we didn't know. It said Chop. It said Chop. And every day we'd say "New Chop, show your face. Chop." Nothing. Turns out that he's he's a young man from Lakewood stuck in the hospital cuz they locked the doors. They didn't want people cuz of COVID and the whole I see Benny you're not even familiar with the story. So I'll tell you the story. And the they locked they said either in or out. You can choose. But if you want to stay with your son you can never you can't go out. You can't come back. So he chose to stay there for months with his kid during COVID. Meanwhile his family and I forgot how many kids he had. And then MDY haver started sending these kids gifts. And the kid once blurted out he wished he could go on a on a kayak. The next day a 15-foot green kayak showed up in their house. Kids say things like that and they bought them a computer and they set them up with internet so they could talk to each other from the hospital back to the desk. And one of the most emotional things was when Yerachmiel alav hashalom was nifter that day uh it was a very emotional time and then people went to be menachem avel and that's when Shlomi Klein went to be menachem avel. The whole thing. But for me one of the most emotional times in my life was by the Siyum on Seder Pesachim the father um Reb Yisrael presented me the pillowcase a MDY pillowcase that somebody sent him as a gift to the hospital and Yerachmiel slept on that pillow. And he said I want to give it to you for the for the leil haSeder. I momish broke down crying and I had the pillow with me in the in the hotel. And I went from table to table. I just made sure that everybody I wasn't happy until they started crying. Sit over the story. Show them the pillowcase that the kid eight-year-old kid was nifter and here's the pillow. It was a nerve racking. Okay. Anyway, so today is his yahrtzeit. Bringing back the memories and he donated a nice amount to the Kolel so he should have he himself is a Kolel guy. So the mesechta in Sgula Torah and Yaakov Yaalok the neshama of Yerachmiel ben Eliyahu. In Sgula Torah and Yaakov Yaalok. Saul Gross 15 Teves Ovi Meiri Boruch ben Reb Avraham Tzvi a Holocaust survivor is a neshama Eliyahu and the art is sponsored for complete refuah for Chaim Tzvi ben Leah. Reb Yid we have a shear right over here. This is the is the guest place right over here. Come. Come. Come on in. What was going on? You'll you'll you'll sit and you'll stand. We'll let you stand also. Just forget. What's your name tzaddik? What's your name? Sam from where? Oh oh Sam. I know you. Yeah yeah avada. Okay. Who? Ah. Where is he? How come he's not here? It wasn't Yeah, but they were they were here. Your grandson was here once, no? No, the player. So where is he? Where's Reb Wasser? As a Reb Mannu you're not going to you're not going to sit next to Okay, fine. Whatever you want. All right. So Reb boys I we finished the amud yesterday. All the way to the last word, my. But because it's Nadarim and we have pretty short dafim, so I would like to do a quick hazara. I'm going to fly through it. You don't have to really understand what I'm talking about. Just hold on for the ride. Basically, it goes like this. If you see the chart, we had a case where you have three brothers, Reuben, Shimon, and Yehuda. Button. Ah, good. And Reuben goes bye-bye. So what happens is that his wife, Rachel, she falls yibbum to one of the two brothers. There's a zika, there's a bond between the two. She's a shomeres yibbum to two yevamim. Shomeres yibbum just means that nishtanei nishtaneh her. There's no chalitzah performed, no yibbum performed. She's waiting. She's in the wings. There's a zika to the two. So says Rebbe Eliezer in the Mishnah that one of the brothers, either Shimon or Yehuda, could be meifer her neder. She has a neder, he can be meifer. Huge chiddush. The Gemara explains no, it's not as simple as you think. It's talking about that one of the brothers performed the ma'amar. One of the two. And that particular brother, he's the one that could do the hafara. What does ma'amar mean? Ma'amar means he gave her a ring. He gave her money for kiddushin. So yes, the Torah doesn't talk about that, or maybe it does according to one shita, but it's the It makes the bond a lot stronger and therefore maybe she's noider on his das. It is in in conjunction with perhaps the fact that he has to give her mezonos together with the father. Great. So I'm just going to start reading here very quickly from Tanna D'vei Eliyahu. Cuz in order to understand what this last word is in the next little part of the sugia, we're going to be done. By the Mishnah, we're going to be finished with Yevamos. Let's just read this real quickly. It's 7:31 now. Let's see how fast we can do it until the bottom of the almond. Tanya nami hachi. 2 4 6 8 10 11 lines from Ein Daled Amud Beis from the top. Tanya nami hachi. Keirabani. I have a raya to Rebbe Ami that says Rebbe Ami says that we're talking about a case with this ma'amar. You see, one of the brothers performed ma'amar of kiddushin. It says like this, shomeres yibbum bein yavam echad ubein shnei yevamim. Whether it's this like our Mishnah. Whether there's two brothers or one brother. Rebbe Eliezer meyafer Rebbe Shmuel echad ubein shnayim. Rebbe Eliezer says even one out of two brothers tremendous chiddush he could do hafara. Rebbe Shmuel says no, only if there's one brother cuz then the connection is solid. Two brothers, we don't know and ein breira, you don't know who the real husband is even if we find out later who the real husband is, he can't retroactive decide who it is. Rebbe Akiva echad ubein shnayim. It doesn't matter even if you have one brother, that one brother cannot perform hafara because he's not as strong as a husband, as a oris. Omer Rebbe Eliezer Umai misho she'ein lo chelek. Now this is the what we want to bring the raya right here. Umai misho she'ein lo chelek bo acharei tovelei reshusai. A wife. You have zero to do with your wife until you perform erusin, until you give her a ring. Misho basrei reshusai nigmerah lo. And once you do erusin, nigmerah lo, she's finished to him. In other words, he could do hafara. Isha now yevama, she esh lo chelek acharei tovelei reshusai. Oh, here's our raya. Let's look at these words very carefully. We're going to go back to these words. Isha she esh lo chelek ad shelo tovelei reshusai. A yevama who has something to do with her before she comes into his reshus. What does that mean before she comes into his reshus? His brother died. Like in this case, Reuben is bye-bye. Now she has something to do with him even though she's not in his possession. She's not in his reshus. Misho basrei reshusai ein lo din shetigmerah lo. So the Gemara understands over here that misho basrei reshusai means she came into his reshus how? Through ma'amar. So this is a raya that we're talking about ma'amar. Because it's two two stages the Gemara says here. She We're talking about a yevama. No question that her husband died. Stage one is lo tovelei reshusai. She's not in his reshus. Stage two is tovelei reshusai. Now if she's completely married to him, there's yibbum, then what is she? She's a 100% wife. And a wife, a husband could be meifer neder. So we're not talking about a wife. We're talking about a woman who has a who came into the reshus of the yavam whereas before she wasn't in the reshus of the yavam. How's that possible? If her if her husband, original husband dies, so she what is she? She's not in his reshus. So what happened that she is in his reshus? If he was meyabem her, he performed yibbum, so she's a regular wife. If she if he wasn't meyabem her, so she's still not in his reshus. So what does it mean she was not in his reshus and today she is in his reshus? The only explanation I could come up with is he performed ma'amar, something in between. No. So then what what is it? A very good zika. What does it mean shelo tovelei reshusai? Explain to me these words. Isha she esh lo chelek. He has something to do with her ad shelo tovelei reshusai. The zika. The right? So why does it say shelo tovelei reshusai? She's not What? Right. Before ma'amar. Exactly. Exactly. The zika before ma'amar is called shelo tovelei reshusai. Zika together with ma'amar is called misho basrei reshusai. So we see that we're talking about a case of ma'amar. Rebbe Ami is mechadesh that we're talking about ma'amar. Ma'amar is a very rare thing. Well, in our days it's pasul if you want to be meyabem and we're not meyabem today, but let's say you want to be meyabem. We spoke about it in Yevamos. You should do ma'amar because it's it's more appropriate. Fine. But it's a chiddush that we're talking about ma'amar. Not everybody holds like Rebbe Ami. So but where where do we see that we're talking about ma'amar? Because of this lashon here. Ashrei tovelei reshusai, misho basrei reshusai. And then you go to the Gemara. Omer Rebbe Akiva and Rebbe Akiva said lie. Not true. Ima mai tovelei isha she'ein lo chelek shelo she'ein lo chelek bo kach ein acherim chelek bo. Wait a minute. When you are performing kiddushin on a woman, so beforehand once you perform kiddushin, nobody could come and ruin your kiddushin. She could be mezana and then you chayev to give her a get, but it doesn't ruin your kiddushin. Tanya Rebbe Isha she ein lo chelek shelo but this yevama that Hakadosh Baruch Hu gave her to the yavam, she she ain't she esh lo kach ein acherim chelek bo. If there's another brother, any brother could go and be meyabem her, give her a get, and ruin it for for the other one. So don't bring a raya from anything. Omer Rebbe Shmuel. So this Rebbe tells him, Akiva shnei yevamim. That's great when there's two yevamim one can ruin for the other. Matan shevi'i yavam echad ubein shnayim. If there's only one yavam, like I say, I Rebbe Shmuel hold that there's a difference between one yavam and two yevamim. I Rebbe Shmuel hold that if there's one yavam, he does have the ability to be meifer neder. Omer Rebbe Akiva echad ubein shnayim basrei yevamim bein shlosha ubein shnayim she'esh lo ma'amar. Says Rebbe Akiva, I'll bring you a raya from another case which we're going to see in a second what it is. There's no difference between one yavam two yevamim. Ukashai dvarim kein nedarim. Just like by this other case. This is We're going to say it's talking about misa. There's no difference between yavam one yavam and two yevamim. Ma'amar and no ma'amar. There's no chiyuv misa. If somebody goes ahead and marries her, there's no misa. There's no skila. So too, you cannot compare yibbum to regular marriage when it comes to be meifer neder. Regular marriage, a husband could be meifer neder. And yibbum, he can't be meifer neder. Again, regular marriage, if the wife is mezana, there's misa. By yibbum, there's no misa. There's a zika. That zika is not strong enough to create a chiyuv misa. Balashon hazeh. Omer ben Azai. So ben Azai said about himself, chaval lecha ben Azai shelo shimash es Rebbe Akiva. Look how strong he is. Look how beautiful it is. He says such beautiful svaros. He he destroyed us. He got us good. Chaval, I wasn't meshamesh him. I would have gained that much more. Now says the Gemara, 6 minutes. Okay, let's go die. Mai ta'ama d'Rebbe Akiva d'Rebbe Ami? So where do you see from this whole thing that we just said like Rebbe Ami? I already told it to you. D'ktani bein shlosha ubein shnayim ubein shlosha ubein shnayim. Because Rebbe Akiva, another pshat. Rebbe Akiva when he answers Rebbe Eliezer, he says there's no difference if he made ma'amar or no ma'amar. So in other words, he's addressing the ma'amar issue. You Rebbe Eliezer think that's talking about the case that he did ma'amar and I'm telling you Rebbe Akiva says no difference ma'amar no ma'amar. Even if he did ma'amar, still he doesn't have power to be meifer neder. Inami, another pshat. Mireisha. From the first part of that braisa. D'ktani misho nichnas l'reshusai nigmerah lo. Once she goes into his reshus, it's over. V'ein lo kiddushin umein nigmerah lo. Pshat minei b'shas kishas ubein shnayim. So it goes on this part that I was referring to. The Ram points out, you just have to continue going. Misho basrei reshusai nigmerah lo. Isha she esh lo chelek ad shelo tovelei. You have to continue talking here. The Gemara just brings the first part, but it means the second part. The isha she esh lo chelek ad shelo tovelei reshusai. That when it comes to yibbum, there's a stage which called not in the in the yavam's reshus, then there's a stage called in the yavam's reshus before he actually marries her. What is that? Must be kishas ubein shnayim. We're talking about a case where he performed ma'amar. Okay, end of that. Done. Now the Gamorah just goes back into Rebbi Akiva. My Ukhshar Dvorim Kein Nedorim Diktonim. Again, you see the Gamorah talks in hints over here. The whole thing is hints. You have to know a little bit more. What did Rebbi Akiva tell Rebbi Eliezer? There's another case where you see a tremendous difference between a Yevamah and a a Yavum and a husband. So too, when it comes to Nedorim there's a huge difference between a Yavum and a husband. A husband could be Maifer his wife Nedorim and a Yavum can't. Omer Rebbi Akiva Tani this is what he meant. Ee Atmu'do She'chayav Miskeelah Kein Na'arah Me'urasah. By Na'arah Me'urasah when she's engaged in real life somebody's Mizaneh with her, there's a Chiyuv Skilah. But not by a Yevamah. Just because she has a bond to her Yavum doesn't make her Chiyuv Skilah. So even though this Maimer and everything it doesn't matter. They could be Maimer, she's not she's still not on the level of a Na'arah Me'urasah says Rebbi Akiva. A Na'arah Me'urasah, such a strong bond between her and her Oris that if she's Mizaneh she gets Skilah and the other guy gets Skilah that that shows she's Aishes Ish Gamur. There's a 100% Aishes Ish. Whereas by a Yevamah the bond is not so strong. You can add a ring, call it Maimer on top of a Zikah, a bond. She's not a 100% Aishes Ish. There's no there's no Skilah and therefore if there's no Skilah the bond is not strong then the husband the Yavum doesn't have the right to be Maifer her Nedorim. Is that because it's De'Rabbanan or not De'Oraisa? Exactly. Very good point. Very good point. You hear what he's asking? Is it because Maimer is De'Rabbanan not De'Oraisa? In other words, if Maimer was De'Oraisa shouldn't it be as strong as Eirusin? And the answer is you're probably right. Yes. Still with the Skilah. Why not? Oh yeah, okay. It's it's a it's a Misah. Misah. No, if she's married, if Maimer is Koineh her like Eirusin uh so she's Na'arah Me'urasah. If she's a Na'arah she's a Na'arah Me'urasah. So yeah, they they the Rishonim talk about that. That Inahna Nami this this according to the Shita De'Beis Shammai like you're saying. According to the Shita De'Beis Shammai that Maimer is a Kinyan Gamur De'Oraisa. Right? We also said yesterday that even in Beis Shammai there's some who hold that it's not De'Oraisa. It was only strong enough to knock off the Tsarah the Maimer and that's only in a De'Rabbanan case. But let's say you hold that Beis Shammai hold that Maimer is De'Oraisa so yes she's going to be a full fledged Arusah and you're Chiyuv Misah Inahna Nami. Omer Rebbi Ashi Masnisan Nami Deikah. Deikah? You could prove it from our Mishnah. It says even in a case when there's one Yavum Okay, whatever. I just made it easy for the Ilum. Fine. Um here's the case of one Yavum. Yeah? A brother goes bye-bye and he leaves a wife and Almana who falls Leivum to her brother-in-law. So it says Ein Yevamah Gemurah Le'Ishah Ke'Shem She'Arusah Gemurah Le'Ishah. You see this idea that she's not a complete wife. This Zikah doesn't create a complete bond. It says in the Mishnah that kind of Lashon like we're trying to explain in Rebbi Akiva here. That's where Rebbi Akiva says there in the Mishnah. Ein Yevamah Gemurah Le'Ishah Ke'Shem She'Arusah Gemurah Le'Ishah. An Arusah is 100% Aishes Ish. You can't end Skilah. You can't say the same thing about a Yevamah and Mamila that's why you cannot be Maifer so as I mentioned yesterday the Ran says therefore because you see how strong Rebbi Akiva is. Nobody argues with Rebbi Akiva. Not only nobody argues with Rebbi Akiva nobody nobody had a counter argument with Rebbi Akiva. And Ben Azai says listen wow he's unbelievable Chaval I didn't I wasn't Meshamesh him. I wasn't Zocheh. So therefore he Paskins like Rebbi Akiva. Now the Ran just says I have a Safek. What happens if the Yavum dies? What happens if the Yavum dies? Who's Maifer the Nedorim now? You have a father I'm sorry. Yeah, you have Yavum the the the original guy dies. Says the Ran who's Maifer the Nedorim? He says the father is Maifer by himself. Why is that Lashon of Mistareikhn? Remember Mistareikhn Al Av. The the the the power empties out back to the father. But Nedorim that she was Maifer when she was with the Yavum that he has a Safek whether or not who's who's Maifer? I just thought it was an interesting Lashon. If you look all the way at the end right before it says Mishnah in the Ran. So you look over there he says Le'Inyan Ma'aseh Tzorich Iyun U'Vedikah Be'Divrei Rishonim Tzafun U'Verochov. To know exactly what to do here let we have to look into the Rishonim. Okay, he himself is a Rishon. We have to look into the Rishonim because those who were before like the Rambam and the Ramban those Rishonim. Okay. Says the heading of the Mishnah. Sponsored by Eli Friedman Le'Iluy Nishmas my dear father Chaim Avrohom Sholom Yerucham ben Yisrael Duvid ben Elozor. Chaim ben Yishai Kol Hanedorim She'Nedorim Me'Ikan Atzu Ovoy Me'Mocham Ploni Hareini Kayov. We have a little bit of art here. Whatever. Kol Hanedorim She'Nedorim Me'Ikan Atzu Ovoy Me'Mocham Ploni Hareini Muforim. And she says whatever. Fine. He's going on a little trip. This guy Yavum. Huh? This guy Yavum that's Right. No, on the second it says Muforim. That's Yeah, she's cooking in the the the the fire thing. Okay, fine. The point is it's not it's not I'll tell you there's there's a little bit of an issue with this drawing. I wish I would have seen it before 3:00 in the morning. Um he was very sleepy. No, it's it's a great drawing but just to point out something the Ran says over here that it's not a case of Me'Achshav. He tells her when I leave then it's starting it's going to be Chal. In other words, he gives himself a little bit of room. He says listen I'm going on a trip. Last time I went on a trip you became off of Frum decided watching Shiurim. I once heard a guy say that a lot of Ba'alei Teshuvahs happened from when the husbands leave the country for like a month or two so the wives get bored and they start watching Shiurim on the Slon and they they become more and more Frum. So this guy says listen last time I did it you it was a mess when I got back. So all your Nedorim are Mufor. But he says from the day I leave. I'm saying this two days before I leave. I just want to I'm anticipating I might forget. I'm going to be busy. Telling you now. It's not a it's not a Halacha of Me'Achshav from this moment. In this picture looks it's already this moment. He's already on his way. He's gone. He's going to Hawaii or something. Yeah, she's watching Shiurim. You see she's already watching. He's Mechavein. She's already she's already watching Shiurim in the in the left window over there. He's going to Miami to the sea. Um very good. Very good. Okay. So so if he tells her Kol Hanedorim She'Nedorim Me'Ikan Atzu Ovoy Me'Mocham Ploni Hareini Kayov. He wants to be Mekayeim something that didn't happen yet. What's Halacha Le'Yom Maklum? Lo Meshaleim Al Oilam. I can't be Mekayeim today. I can't say it should be a good Neder today. But if he says Hareini Muforim it should be annulled. I'm done with these Nedorim. Rebbi Eliezer Omer Mufor. It's good. You can be Maifer. I can anticipate a Neder and say if you ever try to make a Neder it's going to be Botel U'Mevutal from now. Ve'Chachamim Omerim Ein Mufor you can't do that. Omer Rebbi Eliezer he starts proving. Im Heifer Nedorim She'Botel Chal Isur if she already made a Neder and he found out about it after she made a Neder he has the right to annul to be Maifer it. Lo Yafeir Nedorim She'Botel Chal Isur. So shouldn't he have the right even to stop it from happening to begin with? If it already is there it's Mamash Chal Isur Neder. It's a strong thing. I could come in and do it. So certainly if it didn't even happen I could stop it from happening. Omer Lo Harei Hu Omer Ishah Yakimenu Ve'Ishah Yafeirenu. This is the possibility I gave yesterday but we're learning something else from it else. We have a Hekesh. They're saying like this. Just the Ran sticks in a beautiful word. You're saying a beautiful Kal Va'Chomer. Great. I would have I would have gone with the Kal Va'Chomer. I have I have a problem. I have a Hekesh. A Hekesh is stronger than a Kal Va'Chomer. What do you do with this Pasuk? Ishah Yakimenu Ve'Ishah Yafeirenu. Eis She'Ba'al Chal Hokein because a Kal Va'Chomer is more of a logic. Humans can make Kal Va'Chomers but when you have a Hekesh there's nothing you can't do anything about it. It says Ishah Yakimenu Ve'Ishah Yafeirenu. Eis She'Ba'al Chal Hokein Ba'al Chal Hafeir. The only time you could annul and be Maifer a Neder is if you have the right at the same time to be Mekayeim the Neder. Lo Ba'al Chal Hokein but if you have a Neder that you cannot be Mekayeim it. Why can't you be Mekayeim it? Because it didn't never happen. We're talking about two weeks before it even happened and you cannot be Mekayeim it. Lo Ba'al Chal Hafeir. So then you can't do Hafarah. Since the Torah says those two words right next to each other Yakimenu and Yafeirenu right next to each other so that's a Hekesh. It's in the same Pasuk they have the same Halacha. Says the Gamorah. Eibay Lo. Mamis lomdishe shaila. We're going to There's a lot of lomdishe shailas in this mesechta. Every mesechta, but over here you see like straight out. E boylu L' Rabbi Eliezer mecha cholin u'vatelin o dil miloi cholin klal? What happened there? When the husband says that if you ever make an a neder in the future, I'm annulling it. And that's in the future. So, what happened? It never even started or it was chal for a millisecond and then his he's able to revoke it once it once it is chal for a second. It was chal for a millisecond and then he came along what he said 2 weeks ago that annuls it and it's made for it. What's the nafka mina says the Gemara the might nafka mina? Daf hey amud beis sponsored by Greg Haber for brocha by los achim and the entire family and every worldly daf. Everyone learning the daf and also l'atzlacha of the members of the HBA group and their families. Amen. Tzigoyin the atzmis achrina b'chol dei nidro. Check it out. I I just found this something I did uh I don't know when long time ago. There's a nafka mina between Mayaud and Yos Shizar. Basically, you guys are used to it. The guy is a nazir. Here's the guy that says he's a nazir. Comes another guy and says, "V'ani I want to be like him." Over here also, same kind of idea. The woman said, "Harei'ni nazira." S- Comes another guy, a copycat, and says, "V'ani k'moisa." I want to be like her. Now, if it's chal for a millisecond, so there's a place for his his thing to be chal. He says, "V'ani k'moisa." I want to be like her during that millisecond. But if it was never chal even for a millisecond and never even started even for a moment, then his v'ani is nothing. She was never in a nazir. It's If she was in a nazir, I don't care for how long, for 2 hours, then it was annulled. Or a a millionth of a second and then it was nacha Whatever it is, but she was in a nazir for a moment in halacha, so then a person can say, "And I want to be like that person." But if it wasn't chal at all, and that's why it's a big nafka mina. You know, was it chal at all or not chal at all? Now, I just want to say nachamu. Because us human beings are social creatures, everything we do is with chever. We have to live with other people and we have to be with people. So, we mimic each other. We're copycats. That's why Rachman l'tzlan for the bad also. You have people going around shooting up in schools and do One meshugana did it and then it became like a minag in in America. So too when it comes to the virsha b'kedusha. You see, v'ani. What do we mean v'ani? He saw a person becoming a nazir, he he got a he got a chizuk. He saw it and said, "I also want to be like that." As I get developed, people are copycats and it's good for the good and for the bad. So, that's why I'm saying if anybody you should know I'll say it again. I said it the other day. If you do a good deed, whatever it is, you do something positive and people see it, people will follow. I'll take something very simple. In a certain uh this might bother some people. I don't care. If a person accepts himself not to talk during Kaddish. Kaddish, the most chomer thing in in in in davening to talk during, right? Don't talk during that. Everybody knows you're the talker, you don't care about Kaddish. And you don't talk during Kaddish. So, it's not only that you're doing for yourself good, but all the people that you shmooze with and all the people that see you, they also say, "Ah, look, he did So, you make chazak to those other people, so you get double triple the s'char cuz we're all copycats. That's what we are. Don't take this personally. It's nothing. I threw it out there. Okay. Here in daf daf yomi, that I said yesterday. I said it again. I'll say I saw it on today on on Mo Landy's status. I saw it on his status today. I started getting into the status thing cuz I want to see if if Sholom Rand is going to put MDW in his status. He doesn't. But Mo Landy does. Come out every day and he put cuz I spoke about him. I said he learned meseches Megillah whatever it was. A crazy thing. Huh? Yossi Weidman. He is in JFK. He takes a picture of Mo Landy learning and it turns out he's learning meseches Megillah. Guys are coming to learn meseches Megillah. A regular baal habos, a guy, one of the guys. And then Dov Harris tells me, "I learned the whole meseches because of Mo Landy." I'm serious. Dov Harris is lives in England. Yeshivish guy from the And he because Mo Landy, I could also do it. And the the chulu v'chulu v'chulu. That's how it goes. People not in a bad way, in a good way. You see he could do it, I could also do it. Why should I watch movies the entire flight when I can do a whole meseches. Okay. I just want to hear about the nidro. E amris cholin. Mo Landy, put that in your status, please. Shkoyach. Sholom Rand, put that in your status. Yeah. E amris cholin havit t'suso. If it's chal the neder for a moment, then the second guy who mimicked it and copied it, he's also a nazir now. Ah, she's not a nazir anymore. That doesn't matter. E amris lo cholin l'yeikem asha sha mai. So, is it chal or not chal? Now, the Ran brings here. It's very interesting how this Ran works, by the way. Uh for this amud for instance, you have to go all the way to ain vav amud alef to the middle of the page, more than middle. That's where the The whole meseches is like that. It's like where most of Shas Rashi's on that amud exactly and not And once in a while it's a shiyach l'amud beis is one line. Over here it's like you go 30 lines down and still part of amud beis v'chein Keep Okay. Fine. So, the Ran says over here that you have a piece of meat that's shlamim and it's after z'rika. So, what's the halacha of that piece of meat? You already did all the avoda in the Beis Hamikdash on a piece of kotzei chalom and it's after z'rika. Everybody can eat it. Yisrael could eat it. And somebody comes along and says, "We had this sugia already." So, the locha says, "I want my meat This piece of meat should be like this piece of shlamim." What did he mean? Did he mean now right now? Right now it's a regular piece of meat that everybody can eat. Or did he mean 25 minutes ago when it was assur? So, what do we say? He's matir b'isur like now. Right now. What's right now? It's mutar to eat. He didn't mean as the Ran. So, by this lady also, he said, "I want to be like her." But she right now is mutar. She's not a nazir anymore. She was a nazir for a second. She's like a piece of She's like shlamim 5 minutes ago. Shlamim 5 minutes ago is assur. We say, "No. He's not matir b'isur on what 5 minutes ago. He's matir b'isur right now." So, how come now in this case So, the Ran says no because over there he said, "K'zeh the the zeh k'zeh." This piece of meat should be like this. Over here he said, "Harei'ni nazir k'moisa." I want to be a nazir like she is. So, we understand what he's talking about. He meant I want to be a nazir like she was a nazir 5 minutes ago. When he s- Cuz k'zeh k'zeh he didn't say k'zeh sh- yesh shlamim k'zeh. He says, "This piece of meat should be like this." If the guy said, "I want to be like this woman," you're right. He didn't say "I want to be like this woman." Like the loshon of the meat. Zeh k'zeh. He added, "Harei'ni nazir k'moisa." No, like her. Like she No, it doesn't have to do with her. Has everything to do with her. But he was masbir what he wants to do. He was masbir the state of nazirus that she had, not the state of of non-nazirus. Now, this I got this uh Menachem said this Finally I got a a cartoon from this guy. Here is Harei'ni nazir. And one guy says gamani. The next guy goes gamani gamani. They're all matir. They're all holding on to each other. But this is very good for the next question of the Ran. The Ran says that the halacha is that if the top guy is mutar, you matir him, then they all fall. Any guy that's mutar that you do hatara to, then the rest below him go bye-bye. They're all holding on to each other. I'm like him, I'm like him. So, if you get rid of the top guy, he goes to the Rav and says, "I want to be matir my neder." So, they all fall. So, how come over here when the husband was meifer, the the guy, the nazir that says, "I want to be like her," he doesn't fall. He's He's like her. So, if she fell, so he should also fall. The answer is poshut. In this case, when they all fall cuz they did hataras nedarim. What's the hataras nedarim? Like Zamosc Rebbe said, it's a retroactive. Everything from day one goes bye-bye. So, they all fall. Over here he's doing hafara. Hafara is from here on out. The husband only has the right to go from here on out. So, from here on out he's able to catch a moment when she was a nazir. She was a nazir for a moment and from that moment on she's not a nazir, but she was a nazir. When you do hatara, they would never nazir it becomes retroactively explained that she they were never a nazir. Okay? Just a simple nafka mina between hatara and hafara. Says the Gemara. Toshma. Omer Rabbi Eliezer meivin nidrim she'bol chal l'isur l'yofer nidrim she'bol chal l'isur. If, right? That was a svara in the Mishnah Kallah Chaim. If a husband has the right to annul his wife's nidrim even after she made them in the salad, so certainly she should be able to do it when it's weaker, when it didn't even happen. He should be able to stop it. Shma mina. So, what do you see from here? Lo cholin. It wouldn't be a kallah chaimer if it's khow a little bit and and then he is able to annul it cuz then the both khimer, yeah? There's no khow and a khimer. He's saying if my wife who made a solid nether, I couldn't do it. So too if my my wife made a solid nether so I can undo it. You should go out. They're both solids. You want to say one is solid, one is weak. The only way the other one is weak is if it didn't happen. If it's if it's not a nether, if it's right before becoming a nether. So what do you see? It didn't become a nether because if it did become a nether even for a moment then it's on the same playing field as the as a regular nether and then you don't have a khow and a khimer. This is the Gemara. Miktani she ain't in buying. Shli bow katani. Ad dine lay bow. In other words, in English how do you say um that this nether will never happen? How do you say it's never it will never happen? They won't it won't come. It it won't Over here we're saying they didn't come. It didn't come yet. In other words, it's going to happen soon. So the Gemara is saying over here also. It I'm not saying that this nether is not going to be khow for a moment. I'm just saying right now it didn't happen yet. I still have a khow and a khimer says the run. Why? Because he uses a loshon. Koshkin she often daram shinola be mumam imaim. Dainu afar sabow. There's a there's a there's a khisaron to this nether. It has a mum. It has a So may law, I have a khow and a khimer. Toshma. Omer Rabi Yosi Marbin Mogum Shein Mayfer Nidrei Atzmoi Mishin Oidar Mayfer Nidrei Atzmoi Actually Oidar. It says like this in the posik. Ish Kidor Nether Lashem Oisha Ashur Lashem Isur Nafshoi Lo Yachol Dvaroi. A person once he makes a nether, Lo Yachol Dvaroi, he cannot take it back. He go to the rabbi but himself can't undo his own nether. But the law is and we learned this. Prove it to me. I could say whatever nether I'm going to make in the future shouldn't be khow. How do you know that that works? Huh? Kol Nidrei. Very good. Maseches Nedarim Perek Gimmel Varoish Shelays Kaymin Nedarim Kol Shana. If a person doesn't want his Nedarim to be khow, Yomer Berosh Hashana VeYom Hakol Nidrei Sheani Otzli Lidar Yeibatel. We do Hatara Nedarim, we do Kol Nidrei. The point is I could say today that whatever is in the future shouldn't be khow. What if I make a toast? It's a toast. If cuz if he doesn't make a toast, if he knows that he made this Hatara Nedarim and Kol Nidrei then it doesn't work. If I say I know that I made Hatara Nedarim but I want to make a nether anyways, then it's a good nether. The point is he he forgot. He forgot that he was matir all his Nedarim in the future. You could do that. Says the Gemara. See, listen to this khow and a khimer. Um Marbin Mogum Shein Mayfer Nidrei Atzmoi Mishin Oidar. A person cannot be mayfer his own nether. Mayfer Nidrei Atzmoi Ashur Lidar. But he could make sure that his nether shouldn't be khow at all. Mogum Shein Mayfer Nidrei Atzmoi Ashur Lidar and then she often Nidrei Ashur Lidar. So certainly when it comes to his wife, if I could annul a nether that already happened, certainly you're in the khow and a khimer. A human being, a man, he he could stop his own Nedarim from happening but he cannot take care of Nedarim that he already made. So if he could take care of a nether that his wife already made, of course he can make sure that her Nedarim shouldn't happen. May law, they should have done me the law. It's the khow and a khimer. They're the same, him and his wife. May law khow and a khimer. Just like by him, he could make sure that his nether shouldn't be khow, he does Kol Nidrei or Hatara Nedarim. Avizu Nami Dloi Khaila. So too he could do that for his wife. Law. How could this be like this? No no connection. Maybe not. Maybe you could do it for yourself and you can't do it for your wife. Toshma. Omer Rabi Yosi Marbin Mikvah. So let me just explain this real quickly. I guess we could do this tomorrow but it's kishmak so good over here. Listen to this. A mikvah has a very interesting thing. If you go into the mikvah the mikvah makes you tahor. What if you go into the mikvah and you bring a ring with you inside your body? And the ring is tamei. So you go into the mikvah. The ring that goes into the mikvah with you and it comes out with you remains tamei. Yeah? Where is the ring? The ring you swallowed the ring. Swallow the ring. Swallow the ring. So the the body a human body when it goes into the mikvah, he goes in tamei, comes out tahor. In other words, the mikvah has the ability to remove tumah. The mikvah does not have the ability to save you from tumah. Two things. Forget about the ring for a second. Human body. A body without a ring. Body goes into the mikvah tamei, comes out tahor. But if that human body was in a mikvah and you you toss him a rat he becomes tamei. So what do you see from that? That the mikvah doesn't have the ability to save you from tumah. It could only remove tumah. But when it comes to swallowing a ring, it's the exact opposite. I have the ability to swallow a ring, go into the mikvah. I could and I come out of the mikvah, what happens? The ring remains tamei. Yet if I swallow a ring that's tahor and I walk into a room that has a dead body in there, what happens to the ring? It remains tahor. So in other words, the human body is like a box. It could save tumah. It could protect from tumah. But it cannot be metair. The exact opposite of a mikvah. Again, a mikvah could be metair. I take something that's tamei, put it in the mikvah, comes out tahor. But it doesn't have the ability to protect. It could be metair, it can't protect. Because if I'm in the mikvah and I and I hold a rat, I become tamei. So it didn't protect me. It cannot protect, it could be metair. A ring inside a body is the exact opposite. I could protect the ring but I cannot be metair ring. If I swallow a tahor ring and walk into a a room with oil and mace I become tamei, the ring becomes tahor. So what just happened? I protected the ring. It's like sitting in a mikvah and holding a sheretz and not becoming tamei. But you do become tamei in a mikvah. The ring does not become tamei in a room. But if I go into a room with a tamei ring if I go with a tahor ring into the room it stays tahor. But I'm able so it protects but it's not metair. So if I take a tamei ring and I put it in my body it's tamei. Tamei to mace. And I go into a mikvah and toivel, my body becomes tahor, the ring becomes it remains tamei. That means I don't have the ability to be metair. I have the ability to protect. It's mamish the exact opposite of a mikvah. So what do you see? All logic flies out the window. You can't make a khow and a khimer from a mikvah to a human being. They work they operate on different systems. Human being could protect and not be metair. A mikvah could be metair and not protect. Yeah? Seems a little interesting. The point is don't bring a raya to your wife. You could protect yourself from Nedarim. You cannot be mayfer your Nedarim. When it comes to your wife you could be mayfer Nedarim but you can't protect Nedarim. Have a wonderful day. Wife is a different system.