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Basically he's saying that gave me which is true to explain yesterday's sh was his favorite shar of all time cuz it was a difficulty and he walked away with a smile and it's true sometimes the a lot of times like I come to the sh like how am I going to explain exactly something h like certain and I feel that's like um real that's like uh I don't have a good story to say over a good joke and then somebody you know does something uh dumb middle shear and then becomes like you It's like it's like you know what I mean? It's like no bad >> something important shows up and it's like [laughter] so we we need to finish this suga to the bottom today. It's it's one of these amazing suggest ondal question after question and picture after picture design after design like where everything is so clear with the with the art. And uh we need to finish up the sugino. And I I just think a very short review. I did not show this thing yesterday. We had a lot of stuff going on. I'll show it to you today. Mimbeinoi. If if they look the same, it's from the same uh family. So even if like one is tray, one is not tra. We had a whole silo about that. Anyways, this minim it's the same type of meat. But then we we spoke about yesterday that the maybe the veil is different than etc. Fine. I'll go upon him. What we saw yesterday is that not really even two days ago maybe that according to is so meaning whoa whoa I don't know what just happened it went flying five ahead according to it's the same type of food there's no ble it doesn't become bottle so may everything would become everything in the pot is is strafe is is is this tame according to Rabanina is Bal. So then everything would be kosher be cuz you have two koshers versus one non-coosher. They're the they're the majority they overcome it. And then we saw says that one is the other only in one direction. We don't know exactly what and then we had what direction. So basically says we always look at the we look at the is the is the shark the larger item the majority you always look at the the majority you don't look at the minority and if the matal cannot change its status then it there's no change and then if you look at this picture right over here since we're looking at the mavatal the mavatal in this case is the kosher and the kosher is two versus one that's why it's It can't change. Kosher can never be non-cooser. And therefore, we have two items in the same pot. We have kosher and non-cooser. So you have min. What happens when you have two different items in the same pot? The majority wins and therefore all three of them become non-toma from the t guy. >> According to to it's the opposite. We our focus is one. Our focus is on the bottle on the minority not on the majority. And then we have to ask ourselves can the minority become like the majority. So in this case the minority could become like the majority because uh to me can eventually become nontom just by decomposing whatever the word is >> rotting. And therefore it's it's counterintuitive. The whole thing is counterintuitive. Since it's rats, it's going to [snorts] become like the others. And if it becomes like the others, then you have and is not >> according to Yeah. Well, according to purely for it's not for >> Yeah. I said it three times, but those of you you want you want to emphasize it a four times. Yesterday he also emphasized it and today again I got it. I got it. Okay. >> Says I he had an issue with it. He was like it wasn't going well for him. So he figured all the other people also I'm asking >> what >> you also had the issue. >> No. Can we see from our Mishna >> one way or the other if the over here the on the top left corner you took the out and it fell back in or different gear say the point is in the Mishna saysto the kamita fell back into either its own bowl or to the another mah's bowl and now you have a problem. You cannot put this large bowl of shim onto the because it's user to put on the once you take it's so what do you do? You don't do anything. Now the guy went ahead and he put it on. Now let's think about it for a second. Can the kimo okay so first of all what's the mat what's the bottle over here obviously the is the the majority the larger piece so that would be the sharim is there's plenty of seats si come on here here's one two three come sit next to me what's your name >> from where ah so again though don't don't get scared it's We're not going to it's not going to be the home. It's another for another 5 minutes and then we're done with this uh on to the fun stuff. Easy stuff. So again, just so when we finish off the let's finish off on a on a high. So at least we know some stuff is the larger piece. So in this case it's the bottle is the smaller piece. In this case it's the Now let's think about it for a second. According to we go by the according to we go by the can theat ever become a you don't all have to answer in one shot can the shim ever become a kamita once you took the kamita out of there >> no so it cannot become the kamita so it stays as is so it's it's shir okay then what about the kamita could the kamita ever become a shiraim No. Okay. Says can never become a and they stick in here and the kamita can never become a means. We have a problem. [snorts] If let's do this again slowly. This is the last well second to last time. If the mat cannot be like the bottle, the mat can never change into. So how many minimum do we have over here on this on this thing? We have two minimum. We have min. What happens? We have two minim it's so what should happen here? The should overcome the kim and destroy the kim. Yet you told me that if you put it on the misbak it's good. You shouldn't. But if you did it's it's it's okay. And same thing in reverse. It can't be Rabon because Rabon say that only is is is not one another but this should be so it should be it should be so you don't have a and even according to or both of them we should have a problem that one is the other and therefore the should be gone you have this is the says you go by the majority so you have a giant piece of should overcome the small tiny piece of kam it should destroy him and there's zero here. So why are you telling me that if the by mistake put it back back on the guy doesn't have to bring another he has to bring another he wasn't says I'll tell you why very simple we said it three times you can say it again says the special when it comes to one cannot overcome the other why finished great but there's a puzzle and here finally we're jumping to another which is interesting you take up by the way these two things I don't want to this I did this morning and this this morning just as y like in the olden days not not not Yoshi style okay so don't don't uh >> don't know on the art okay he can do a thousand times better just so there should one visual. Last night there was no visual. So I was like, "Okay." He takes a matzah, which is tiny, and he he loads it up with a bunch of ketak, which is on top, some fennel, and a bunch of sesame. Okay? Doesn't matter what. He he filled it up. He he just rolled it into the into the spices. And there's more spices than matzah. So what's the mato? Spices. What's the bottle? The matzah. What does it say? All sorts of spicy matzah. It's a good mat. It's a spicy mat. It's a bunch of spices. Now, I think just pay attention here not to get confused. There's a word the wordish appears twice over here. One is with the olive and one's with the one with the olive means more. The one within means spoiled. So not to get confused [clears throat] is there's a lot more spices than matzah and therefore the spices are the according to that says we go by the bottle. So we're going to go by the matzah. [snorts] You know what the matzah it works out great. Why? Because everything's counterintuitive. So the matzah will become bottle to the spices. Why? Because eventually matzah can become like a spice similar to the meat when it decomposes when it gets ruined. It could flip into uh spices. So now what happens when it flips into spices? We have only one min. What's the one min spices? And what happens when you have one min? It's not bottle. So then you have a good matzah. It's counterintuitive. Everything is counterintuitive. When it gets spoiled, here's what then it'll turn into spices. But if you say we go by the spices, the larger item, which is the spices, the spices can never turn into matzah. If they can ever turn into matzah becomes what? Minino. It's two different things. The spices and the matzah different things. Oh, when you have two different spices, two different meaning, what happens? >> Becomes bottle. So now you don't have a matzah. So you didn't eat matzah little sedther says you you read it wrong. It's not that it is more spices. Almost doesn't make sense be more spices than the actual mat. No, no, no. What happened was there's a lot more matzah than spices. And it even says we call it a matzo. It's called a spicy matzah. It's not spices with matzah. It's not croutons with soup. It's soup with croutons. Yeah, it's a big enough. Yeah. Depends. In my mishb it's croutons with soup. I don't know how it works by you. My wife brings out the croutons and I pour a little soup into it and we eat. That's how it goes. >> What? That's the one of the best advertisements of all time. >> Wow. It's beautiful. Those who know those who snack on croutons >> I don't know if the is not even old enough to remember there used to be two sizes of croutons of remembers. Okay. So it's not so long ago. >> When I was a kid it used to come in a in a brown box and not in a plastic container in little boxes that you don't remember. >> We used to walk to the mol and buy it. Yeah. [laughter] Like and they used to make it in Ben on my I forgot the name of the street on my my aunt street like her building was here and then there's a awesome building smacking mill. >> No no no no I can't believe my across >> the street from the fire department. No, no, no, no. And you make a left. They sold it and they built 100 apartments. Here we go. Here's the easy stuff. >> Put on. You're going to love this. Like, you're going to see what why why AI was created and why AI is so beautiful. When made so says he made it twice. twice he went to learn once and then he became later on he did he went back there he bumps into two sons we just mentioned we had and who wrote the bry he had two sons there were twins what were their names and to the twins they were saying consists of one say take a look everything is so clear >> from from UK >> oh we have a seat we have a seat over here over here >> UK >> it's close >> you know this guy who used to came from country to travel 9 hours. >> Yeah, >> that's your brother. >> Ah, so you figured if he could travel 8 n hours, he could travel an hour and a half, too. >> Send him regards. Where? I haven't seen him in a while. >> That's why send him regards. Okay, you came just in time cuz now it's easy. No more. No more trauma. Raisa, here goes. Take a look. I didn't hear the joke. What was the joke? >> His brother at least comes on time. Ah, [laughter] >> okay. [laughter] What do we have in this? What do we have in this bowl? We have a single min made of one is divided in two. Okay, here's the question. Take a look at the screen. Means somebody that went to the mikvah today, but he's not completely ted. So anything he touches become puzzle. Not taught me becomes puzzle. The question is, can the tumach travel from one to the other? Why? Because it's in the same container. It's in the same bowl, in the same cleat. Does it travel or not? >> He took one, one divided in two. They actually, as gonna explain later, they actually have a connection to each other because they come from the same. It's the same. Again, I didn't show the whole video. It's not necessary. You guys already know. Once in a while, we'll show it. A guy has to he goes to the mikvah at 12:00 in the afternoon. When he comes out of the mikvah, it removes part of the tum, but he's still somewhat tom. He has to wait until that night. But until he waits, he has enough in him to make things puzzle. Not to puzzle. Here's a nice something to think about. I'm not even going to talk about it. A regular person who's let's say a guy goes he went to touch the dead person and it's a tish and there's a giant platter of fruit and he touches the center fruit. What happens right now at this at that moment? The fruit becomes tummy. The one that he touched become tummy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were Yeah. Yeah. Your wife rinsed them all off in the sink so that it should be nice and healthy. Yeah. The guy touched the center apple. What happens? I'll tell you what happens. It becomes a reshine. What about the fruit that touches it? What do they do? Do they do they come anything? They become a sheni. What about the fruit that touch the sheni? >> They do not become they do not even nothing. It stops the chain. Now >> this is true for Tommy. This is true for things that are touching each other. They're they're tightly touching each other. We're talking about something different. We're talking about a not a guy who's a tulim. He's only has a minimum amount of and he didn't touch the two pieces of of of dough are not touching each other but they happen to be in the same. So says the says this is how he said that a one vessel could bring everything together for to ruin it for this is when they're all touching each other but in our case like you see on the screen they're not touching each other like maybe one should not make the other one tell me perhaps there is no difference the the idea is that Cle brings them together and you touch one. You touch them all. >> If there was no >> No. So, how is how's it going to travel? >> No, it's >> touching. Yeah. >> You say because it's a Cuz it's No. If they're touching each other, it's one piece. It's one piece. If they're touching each other, it's one. It's one piece of dough. [snorts] >> Right. Then you don't need a clean, >> right? But that's more for fruit. That's for for other separate items over here. It's like dough. So touching it's touching. It's one piece says tells him. It doesn't say it says combines the two. So even if they're not touching each other, that's just when I read this, I I thought about this thing. It just happens. I I'll tell you I said it just recently also but I just asked my father lived 120 I saw I spent some time with him in New York in the same house I got to ask him I said are you mim to me the reason why you perhaps sent me to all these different you know I went to Torah which is regularish you can call it regular litish school then all of a sudden I went to to Minkach and Klin and then I go to Panovich and all these different places then I lived in uh Lincolnwood. So like most of my neighbors were modern Orthodox for many years. And then all these things I said, are you asking to me that this all happened because I was going to be in Machir and I needed to speak Yiddish and and and get along with all the modern Orthodox and get along with understand not get along understand them. And [laughter] so he said he said 100%. He says, "I didn't send you to these schools because send you to these places 100%." I'm ask him 100%. I I have zero tightness on him and I have I don't think I have any travel for me. Maybe I do deep down. Who knows? But that's not the point is that it helped me for ley maz. Soon no this m this thing that maybe it took me I'm not I'm not exaggerating. Took me 45 years to understand this thing. >> You hear this? >> Took me 45 years to you went to to different schools. >> Explain to me why I went to mkach. I get you. >> You went to match and breast live. >> Okay. That's most people only last for three. Okay. Fine. >> Probably why you get along with everybody so long. [laughter] >> That's why we get along. We get along cuz we both went to meet. [laughter] >> This is what I'm talking about. gave you. Okay, fine. No, seriously. >> Anyways, no, one day, one day it's all these things. Why you went through this trauma and why you lived in over here and why it happened over there and why you married this person? I call everything that I call him. It's fine. Listen next case, it's all galdic. Take a look at this. It's all this is for for pre-1 could understand this. These are the two pieces of your you go ahead and introduce a brand new piece from a different this this third piece has nothing to do with it. It makes it big enough. Why you put a third piece in there between them? When you need that vessel when it's they're connected the first they're all connected. entirely, but you you're you're a visitor here. That little piece, the third piece in the middle, the the purple one, you have no connection to the other guys. Maybe the maybe it doesn't really help you at all. There's a fascinating that everybody should know about. I think it's very important. Where do you have he kind of uh I asked the question yesterday, where do you have this of that vessels for us today. >> Who said >> why? How? How does it work? >> Batches together. >> Oh, I have a That's what Okay, I have a I have I have a better one. It's that it's that but when your wife bakes, let's say for Porum, she makes a bunch of cakes >> and she puts it in the freezer. Oh, she she does a little cake. It's not there's no there's no another cake. No, no. But you put it in the freezer. The freezer is a cle and it puts it all together and suddenly your again ask your rabbi. It could be if you put it in a box it's different. Put it in a plastic bag. It's like this. There is what you wrote about it >> in the same drawer. >> In the same drawer in the same freezer, whatever. You got the idea. This idea that a cle could be of something that you had no idea. You had no clue. right now. Tomorrow, but on the third day when you put the third cake into that one drawer or some people have just a giant chest freezer, I don't know what you know and boom the Okay, go ask your local rabbi. Call upon him. Oh, so we said it already that was the the brought all of all together. We're all there. We're all one. We were in one. We all became one. >> Who's the guest? Where do we have guests? We have more guests. Oh no, those we said already. They're the third day. >> Oh shimm all the way in the cornerback. What's your name? Mayor >> from where? From >> where is that? >> Invesum. Welcome. Welcome. >> In the neighborhood like >> in the fry neighborhood like you. [laughter] I didn't say you said it. I didn't I didn't [laughter] You don't know what I'm thinking. If you knew what I was thinking, you'd get up and leave by yourself before I get the people. [laughter] >> Bye. Wow. Check this out. Here we go. I mean, this is You don't need a drawing for this, but once we have it, we have it. All he does is he puts his finger in between. We're just going to learn this and there is a concept called a here like this. When you when uh let's say you have a sheretum happens to go into the airspace of a earn vessel like the oven. So everything in the oven the oven itself becomes a reshine. Everything in the oven goes steps down one one m becomes a sheny. And now the shening if it touches something else becomes aiy for like for for touching whatever human touch. Okay. But that is only with a sher in earnware not a in a in a random cle. [clears throat] Now asked it's a very similar question that we had before what can you do for let's say we have this case right so the first question we had was is if a touches a does b become tom now the question is very similar if if the owner or the kayen takes a kamita from a from the right side is it good enough for the kam as if you did a kit on the left side. What's the question? Because before we were talking about making both them to so okay I could be a big m it's not a big deal toss it the r will tell you you know yeah it's tom but now you have to do a koola you have to now you now you have to have wide shoulders you say look you did a kam on the right one it works on the left one you don't have to worry about it you don't have to go bring another that's already a is the so strong that you could use it even or no the whole is only the thing it's when it comes cut him and you throw out the dough and we don't know the answer. We heard something similar. This is the case that we spoke about a number of times here. Let me show you just the beginning of it, but we improved it a lot. Have two, the one on the right, the one on the left. So, what does the Mishna tell us? Take a kamita from both. Okay, I just told I told him he doesn't have to worry about it. Doesn't take a kamita from both. The the problem is take a look now. Look at this. This is the improved version. >> For only for illustrative purposes, they're two separate colors. So you take you took the two and you mix them together. What could possibly happen? That part of one MK is completely isolated. The blue that little island over there, blue island and the pink is isolated. It's not even touching the rest of the blue and the pink also. There's a part of the pink. Let's say you we don't even have to go there. Let's focus on the blue. And what does the Mishna tell us? Take a kamita from the blue. Take a kam from the pink. It's not a problem. Take a kamita from both of them and you're good. But how could you do that? Part of it is missing. In order to take kamita, you have to have a full a full of a tiny part of it is an island somewhere else. if they were touching all the way along galdic, but [clears throat] they're not. It's literally our case where you have piece A and piece B. They're not touching over here. You see that you could take a mah from one and it applies to the to the island blue and the pink over there. But if you could do from the blue part, it's half of but there's a piece somewhere. It has to be if you did a nice mix, it's going to be a piece that's not touching the rest of it. There are some people in this room like noi don't know what a masik is. >> If it if it's like if it's like a comb, what does that mean? that it's not literally it's mixed but every piece is touching each other. We don't have an isolated piece somewhere. That's why the Misha says take a from the from the blue. Take a kam from the pink. Looks like our two heads [laughter] >> maybe at the end of the day if you have two pieces of of one could you take a from the other you should take a from it they have to be connected that what very very simple inference here if it's in two separate vessels you cannot take very simple If it's in one vessel, two pieces in one vessel, that's okay. It says do not take from two separate. You have a half a half a half a one half a you cannot take now because they're divided by two. But if they're in one just divided, then then it would be okay. if you're going. So, for this you really need AI, I believe, because it's difficult. I tried to explain it yesterday in Hebrew before. I was trying to tell them because Israelis don't have they don't they don't really use that uh that cake. I don't know what it's called in English even, but the you know when you make chocolate cake and they have it has that centerpiece. >> Bunake. >> Bun cake. >> A bun. >> Bun cake. >> A bun cake. >> Yeah. They had no clue. I don't even know that. Okay. Bun cake. So I was like, it's like a bun cake. It's like the the center part is another cle. I'm trying to describe it then. So I think this is beautiful. This is This really works so well. Here it is. >> Mhm. >> And it really should be gold. Pretend it's gold. Silver. We didn't have time to switch. I told you. I asked him to switch. Fine. Gold. But take a look. Take a look. It's unbelievable. Boy, I'm so excited about this. Look at this. He filled it up with the the kapisa is the middle part. The outside is cabba. Fine. But look at this. He fills it off with flour. So the center is really isolated from everything else. But it's touching on top. Is that considered touching or not? The answer is it's not touching. You know why? >> It's above the cle. Take a look. Look. Look. Look. It gets better. Valdic. Here's a side view. The walls in the center are completely separating all the flower from each other. Where is it connected? On top of the but it's already above the rim. It's above the rim. So it doesn't work. >> Oh, he said this is the Okay, somebody threw this in. >> Yeah, we had a bunch of times that above the cle is not is not the I would like to it was hard to manipulate the middle slightly higher a couple centimeters higher, but you get the point. All the makita is of the same height. The flower in the center is isolated. That's two cumin. I on top it's touching that it's not touching because it's above the clay. So says and where is it? Yes. watching when the walls in the center are lower down even though they're mixed on top since the makita is a massive that's a real makita like a super duper from you can't look from one side to the other so ma it you cannot do kamita like this you c you would not be able to take kam pizza from one of those compartments because the mil is separated completely. It's like three different kum that we already said that if the ma is in two kum you cannot take from this is like two in one kum it's like tricky but you know this is not considered one k this is considered two where do we have this exact case that it's two kum one with inside the other but it does work very simple what's the case look this is all drawn by hand I'm not kidding I saw the original picture. But now it looks real. Now the water and the feed is separated by a lower wall. You see that wall? That wall is lower than the outside walls. So now the water and the feed if they would pile up like this. Take a look. Oh, here you have such a thing. You have a wall in the clay. But if you pile up flour [snorts] and the flour touches on top now it is good. Why? Because it touches on top inside the cle. >> Yeah. Even though there's a inside touches. Where does it touch though? The point is it's touching inside the cle. you. >> Yeah. But by going back to our question, >> our question, we still don't know. Can you take from one for the other? Take a look at this. This is It just gets better and better. How would I explain this with I don't know. I feel bad for all the people that go to [laughter] you have three pieces of of of a number one. Number two, number three. Take a look at this. Yeah. I'm going to have to apologize to the world. The touches one. What happens? It automatically spreads to number two that we said it's in the same clay. Spreads to number two. But now we have water coming down. I just told to do it in oil cuz it's one of the mash. It's fine just to see it. What is that called in in Gumar terms? >> It could travel up the water stream and then it hits number three. So now you have all all three could be. It's a question. Could could number three outside of the cle become through a stream that's only inside the inside. maybe doesn't spread outside but two and three are completely connected through electric through a stream. Now if in fact two and three are connected what happens if we reverse it take a look comes and touches number three. Number three and number two are connected. So they automatically number two becomes tummy. And now once two becomes tummy what happens? It spreads to one >> same level or down a level >> same level like before it's all it's all like we said before the it all becomes purple. That's only when he touches inside the it spreads to inside the cle it could jump up outside but maybe it doesn't go from outside to inside maybe it doesn't make a difference. So rabbi said this is also where's my tissue here. Let's say let's say a tool touches this. This becomes purple becomes ple. Now I take this and I drop it into a uh a vessel which has another one of these. Yeah, this is already tom. And I go like that inside a bowl. Does this become tummy? No. No. The answer is no. When I touch this, when they're both inside the same bowl and I touch this, then this one becomes tummy. But if this one is already tummy and I put it into the bowl, this does not become tummy. Okay? Now, here's the question. Look at this. It's beautiful. Now, take a look over here. You have a piece of dough. The tulian touched it. What happens if he puts it in a bowl? The other the other one does not become tame. It remains green. Ask the Gmoro. Now what happens if retouches it? >> Does the other one remain or not? >> What's the answer? >> Why not? >> Why? >> Oh. >> Oh. So here's a beautiful concept. What did the add to the purple? It was already purple. So he didn't add anything. He didn't add anything. You have to add something to the purple in order for the to keep on spreading. You can just retouch it. That's called a concept called it's it's it's satiated. It's already full up to here with you can't add any more to and one part became to not maybe we should have done it red. Maybe it would have been better more more accurate. It became and then he took it and he put inside the bowl. No, it says comes and touches it, retouches it. Do we say that the the the purple piece inside the bowl is already full of you can't add more? Do we say such a thing? But take take a He had an emission from his body. Some sort of disease he has. It's called zea. He becomes what kind of tuma does he become? He becomes aatuma. Avatum means that if he touches another human being that person becomes if he touches any vessel very high a he was only a then if he touches another human being he would not become another clean he could be foods. that when a Z sits on a bed like this is our old one down to to show you if he sits on a mattress that's tumasish medus he sits on it everything becomes underneath him at the same level of tum as himself so he's at the mattress also becomes provided that he sits on something that's sittable drinkable sitable [laughter] no such a word right >> it's meant for it >> sprinkable If it's meant for that thing, it's a it's a couch that you're supposed to sit on. It's a couch and then it it transfers. But if you sit on a box of cereal, it's not meant to be sitting on. So the you don't have that same tum of abatum. So if you have a a sheet that belongs in a bed, so that's something that could become tumas mishkov, it'll become. But if you take the sheet after it becomes aatum and you use it as a curtain. So now it drops the tuma. It's no longer a mattress cuz you decided that it's no longer a bed. It's no longer a bed sheet. It's a it's a curtain for the wall. Curtain for the wall. It doesn't become a avata. It's only a rish. So it drops down one level of tuma did a a video here just to this is kobic the famous and also two radio what are you wearing what's what's this tie No, he doesn't know this. [laughter] Okay. Anyway, so based on this, we had a whole video le and uh he showed up to uh both and Kobe Sal were both at our Shabaton in America and Kobe Sal was wearing this and he gave he gave me the tie. Okay, fine. Based on that, I didn't know that they're doing it. I just >> Sorry. Here we go. So, he did like sort of like the blanket is So, here we got we got a a ZV. This guy's a ZV. He's walking around. [panting] Okay, sir. You went from it went from a bed to a curtain. So now it drops tuma. goes from a >> tumo from medus to arisha tomago medus tomago my my grandmother used to work in slabatka for many many years and I heard this once that a buck comes to yeshiva and he said you see you see that curtain over there that one is fleshik that one over there is because that's the one that everybody wipes their hands on after they eat fleshiks that's the one they >> [laughter] >> Fine. Oh, sorry. If you put it on as a curtain, it drops. That if the problem is here is that if after the slept on the sheet, he went and he touched the sheet, then if you remove the the the mishkav of it, the mattress of it, then you have maga. But the problem is how does the z touch it after he slept on it? In other words, he could touch it all he wants, but why would it add tuma? It's it's already satiated. It's full of toma of the highest degree. It's toma. So now the fact that he touched it doesn't add anything. So if you remove the medus, you're not left with maga because it was never you got what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Where would it be a problem? It was the reverse. If the the z touched it, so then it became a lower level to of maga and then he slept on it. then you add tum to it. But if he slept on it first, he added the highest and then he went and touched it. Nothing happened according to what you're saying. According to this idea of of that you can't add to something that's already who told you touched it after you slept on it. Maybe he first touched it then he slept on it. Then he added a strong of to the but over here by the of the where whatever you know what I'm talking about where he touched one what was the case over here yeah he our case where this guy where he touched it and then he put it in And we don't say that >> cuz he wasn't [clears throat] >> you didn't add over here the so you're not supposed to change it. Leave it as the he didn't add anything when he touched the the after was already he added zero. No. So perhaps the rise from the end part. If you have two, this is not so accurate. I have to explain it. If the guy sits on an upper sheet which touches a lower sheet of sat on it and so basically you have to explain you have two sheets. They're not really touching each other. The ZV sits on the top one. So what what happens when he sits on it? Becomes med. It becomes just like him. Then his his body weight lowers it and touches the one below him. So what happens? The one below him becomes just like the one above becomes a tummy madress. But the says he also becomes a maga. Why? Because it touched the one on top and touching medus. How could the bottom one get two tomas? If if it already if it becomes med becomes the highest degree of toma how could it also get a lower to say is very simple have simultaneously what's the sh over here it was one after another I think we will stop over here even though I don't want to but it's it it finishes it at the end of it's easy so raisai have a wonderful Hey, >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.