Daf Yomi Menachos Daf 103 by R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning RABBI VOICE I WHAT IS THIS MESSAGE TO US TO SMART HOW WOULD I DO WHAT I DO I FEEL IT? I would say massive seal expecting close to a thousand people at the scene it's going to be unbelievable. A lot of surprises. In Armonot Chain, a double hall. Two. >> [laughter] >> I can always There is there is parking. There is parking. Yes. I love it. Love it. Love it. If there's room if there's room which ladies that do the daf ladies that don't do the daf. Some ladies I I don't think so. It's Bnei Brak. Maybe I don't know. Speak to the I don't think so. We don't have a plan for it yet but maybe maybe it's not a bad idea. Not a bad idea. We are looking for sponsors. It's subsidized by Moshe Cohen himself the owner of the hall and we're charging a hundred shekel but there's still a lot of cost on top of that close to twenty thirty thousand dollars minimum. Toronto satellite Thursday nights. A lot of children there. A lot of children. Wow. And adults. And adults. What a room. Canada. >> [snorts] >> This is your friend Simcha Firestone. I would say check this out. Good evening. My name is Simcha Firestone. In the last several years I've been learning and growing and listening to on a daily basis one of the most powerful energetic and learned Torah scholars of our generation. He is world known. Smart, funny. Nice. And I am very grateful that I am am able to be his student in the apartment of life. I would like everybody to please stand as we welcome and call up my rebbe and teacher Rabbi Eli Stefansky. I got Wait wait wait wrong speech. Wrong guy. >> [laughter] >> It's the wrong speech he said. He's trying to call up Rabbi Ephraim Goldberg. He was calling up Rabbi Ephraim Goldberg. And he got the wrong speech. >> [laughter] >> There's more laughs in this room than over there I think. I don't know if they'll appreciate it over there. Yeah. At my son's uh a Sheva Brachas so one of his friends gets up and and says "B'shos the the the the biggest maker of cheer in America and this a whole a whole long this and then he pulls out a picture of Rabbi Shmuel Bornstein. She got uh I got on the plane today. I look across the aisle and see this person completely engrossed in the daf with airpods, iPhone and a Gemara full of sticky notes. You should recognize him. Believe it or not it's on the same day I believe that he himself donated Neil Halpern donated the daf. This is an interesting one. As you recently got started this year got kind of pulled in good way by my two friends Mordechai Nakash and Ari Hershkowitz. I figured since he started Menachos get ready for Chulin. It's really amazing cheishek Torah. While I was learning watching with my eleven year old Volvi came over my my eleven year old Volvi came over and asked me you're learning Stefansky I was surprised told him I just started. He tells me he's been learning the shiur for a while already apparently behind my back lol. This this generation you never know what they're doing behind your back. They might be learning shiurim and watching clips. He started pushing me to learn with the daf so with Rabbi Shmuel we started Chulin together we're going to start Chulin together somehow. So he and we also set up Listen to this. They they decided we also set up that if when we finish Chulin we're getting sponsored tickets. They already know where they're getting sponsored tickets from my dear friend Mordechai Nakash. Come to the shiur just giving you a heads up. So just a small comment yesterday's shiur by the Carbon Yisrael there was a picture showing poor middle class and rich. And it felt very it felt a little stereotype. Why is a Chassid poor a Yeshivish middle class and modern American boy rich? I couldn't get out of my head so I figured I'd write. As a Chassid Baruch Hashem there are plenty of wealthy Chassidim. Not sure we always work in the usual traditional way but we figure it out. Thank you again for everything you do. >> [laughter] >> It's really inspiring. All the best. Yosef Weiszberger. What's interesting is that Let's see when this one came in. I didn't look at the date or the time but I know that they were both together in these emails. It says on top Thursday April 23rd 6:51 p.m. Thursday April 23rd 2:31 p.m. Here's a woman who doesn't like the way we depict women like we have that lachluchas and why we're showing lachluchas. Um Bringing Carbon Site uh for long time we've depicted women in a Talmudic shiur. I don't understand the issue but I didn't say that we may once have a humorous way to avoid a sensitive topic seems now in light of development of Daf Yomi in general. Uh to be honest say many women learn the daf some very fine daf were given by women. Blah blah blah. Okay. B'kitzur. Gary Levine Jerusalem. MDY Coffee Corner month. Kovod HaTefillah committee. 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Midot. Measurements Middois. [clears throat] Is that that's the that's the name. But you have to wait until close to the end of this shiur to see it. Also also I'm telling you right now on the way mamish literally walking in the way here Hashem Baruch Hu gave me an idea so I said if if he threw it into my head we got to do it. And the idea consists of >> [cough] >> a little we're going to do a little um competition thank you. A little competition where the prize money is two thousand dollars a thousand dollars five hundred dollars and all it takes is making a short thirty second one minute video l'kovod Chulin. Think about it. I'm going to talk about it in middle of the shiur. I'm going to show you a video that somebody sent me this morning and it got me going what if there were more of these videos how many people would join the daf. So and see. So says the Heilige Mishna we're mamish in middle of the middle of the daf kuf beis amud beis. Ho Omer ah Ho Omer Harei alai Menachos. You know that there are two types of Menachos. There's many types of Menachos. But two that are very very similar, but done in they're they're they're baked in different ways. One is a machvas, a very short like a pan, flat pan. And one is a marcheshes, round, shallow, thank you, shallow pan. And one is a marcheshes, a deep pan. They have the same ingredients, but one burns off the oil quicker and therefore is a harder like almost like a matzah kind of thing. The other one is more like a lafa, more like a chewier kind of dough. If you remember we had this >> vessel? Would you like a machvas or a marcheshes? The art is amazing. The The havar is a little annoying to me. According to Rabbi Yose Hagelili, a marcheshes had a cover while a machvas had no cover. And according to Rabbi Chanina ben Gamliel, the machvas is shallow so there's no room for the oil so the mincha comes out hard. While the marcheshes is deep, it bakes in the oil and comes out soft. Okay. So if a person promises, he makes a neder, I'll bring a machvas, I'll bring a a shallow frying pan. Vehevi be marcheshes. Hoymer alei be machvas, vehevi be marcheshes. In the end they end up bringing the deeper one, it's a completely different mincha. So he's not yoitzei. He has to bring another one. Be marcheshes vehevi be machvas, the opposite. He said I'm going to be bring the chewier chewier one, the thicker one, vehevi be machvas and he brought the flat one. Masha hevi hevi. So you don't have to throw it out. Why? Because mistama he meant he had another nedava. He had something else going on in his mind. He did another nedava at different time. V'dei chovas lo lo yoitzei. But this that he promised a shallow one and he brought a deep one, you weren't yoitzei, you start over. But don't throw out the one you brought because maybe it's for something else. What rebbeim say, think about for a second, you'll all know the answer. If somebody says zoo, this flower right here zoo, is that called a neder or a nedava? How do you know? Z'dai, zoo. So but what does it mean? What does it mean it's a nedava? It means that if you point at something say this then that it's this. You can't change it. Zoo lahavi be machvas, he pointed to this flower you say this flower I want to go in a shallow frying pan, vehevi but he took this flower and he put in a deep one, now he made a pasul. Made a pasul, you can't you can't talk about this particular flower and change its designation from shallow to deep. And the reverse also, zoo. If it not doesn't say zoo, but he said zoo. Be marcheshes vehevi be machvas. He pointed to the flower to the bag, this whole bag is bag is going to go in a deeper one, but it went in a in a shallow one, hareis pasul. Now you can't even use it. Hoymer hareilai shnei esronois. Yesterday I told Benny this this moshol so I think I'll say it over. If somebody promises to bring to the base I bring this two animals 200 pounders and he brings one 200 pound animal, yoitzei or not yoitzei? No way. Not yoitzei. But it's the same amount of pounds. It's a different type of It's a different type of thing. If a person says I'm going to bring two menachos, two. Each one requires its own kemitzah, its own aktara. But he doubles it up. Instead of a typical mincha is how much? One isaron. So he brings two esronim. But he did it in one kli, not yoitzei cuz he promised two. And the same in reverse. If he promises one and he brings two. So let's say with an animal, he promises one gezunta, hefty 200 pounder and instead he brings two smaller ones, 100. But he did double. Well, that's good. No, not good cuz he promised a 200 pounder, he needed to bring a 200 pounder. If a person promises one mincha of of two esronim and he splits it up to two. It's not that he did double, he didn't bring what he promised. >> [clears throat] >> So I may hareilai shnei esronois lahavi here. He said I'm going to bring two cups, two esronim, but at the end he only ended up bringing This is not a good moshol because it's not the right size. But he brought one instead. Mhm. [clears throat] >> [cough] >> Shkoyach Reb Breuer Schwartz. The baal hamain. What's What's very interesting about Reb Breuer Schwartz, when I give him a compliment once in a while, he only picks it up 10 seconds later cuz he's on a YouTube delay. >> [laughter] >> It's It's funny, but he he listens He listens in his ear. Okay. Masha hevi hevi, v'dei chovas lo yoitzei. [laughter] Hoymer hareilai shnei esronois lahavi bigli echod. What? No, no, here I'm I'm reading it. Hoymer alei shnei esronois. He said I'm going to bring two. L'havi bigli echod. I'm going to bring sorry, double measurement. Double measurement, but I'm only going to bring it in one vessel. Vehevi bishnei keilim, he ended up bringing in two. Bishnei keilim vehevi bigli echod. So basically he doesn't have the right amount in the kli. He doesn't have the right keilim. Masha hevi hevi, v'dei chovas lo yoitzei. So you continue bringing it again, perhaps another time he made such a neder and he was it was two. So let him bring the two and I'll have to bring a different time the one. But now here's the interesting case. Oh, no. Eilu bigli now the same thing. If he points at it instead of saying zoo, he says eilu, these This is the flower. Bigli echod vehevi shnei keilim. Bishnei keilim vehevi bigli echod. He specified the flower that's supposed to go in, but he ruined it by putting it into different types of vessels, two instead of one, one instead of two, hareilu pasul because he already designated the flower, this flower like a nedava, zoo, eilu, and can't change it. Same case rebbeim say, same exact case, but there's a little variation at the end. Hareilai shnei esronois lahavi bigli echod, vehevi shnei keilim. He said I'm going to bring two esronim in one vessel. And he brought it in two. That's exactly what we had before. But omru lei, his friends are standing there and say what are you doing? Okay. Kohanim. I don't know that it has to be kohain. Let's say Yisroel Karozel. Fine, it doesn't matter who. Mis- Probably the kohain, but what if a Yisroel says side from with a from a distance? Omru lei, bigli echod nodarta. What are you doing? You're messing up. So if he ignores it hikrivam shnei keilim pasul. What's the whole svara over here? How come you could continue bringing your carbon even though you messed up? Cuz perhaps yesterday you made another neder and it fits your other neder, nobody knows about it. But if your friends are making a comment, they're they're they're trying to fix it. And you don't tell your friends, hey, no, no. You got it wrong. I I made a neder yesterday. You're right, you're right. You heard me say two keilim, but right now I'm bringing one kli cuz on Sunday I said one kli. You should explain yourself. If somebody says If you just ignore them, that means you don't care. If you don't care, that means you're messing up now. Yeah, you get it? Good. Bigli echod vehevi shnei keilim pasul. Hareilai omru lei, bigli echod nodarta. What are you doing? Why are you bringing two? Hikrivam shnei keilim pasul. Bigli echod, if he listened to them, that's not a chiddush, he listened, he changed his whole mouth, shair this kosher. Hareilai shnei esronois lahavi bishnei keilim. If he promised to bring two esronim in two keilim, vehevi bigli echod, he messed up on the amount of keilim. Instead of bringing two klishores, he brought in one. Omru lei, his friends again making remarks, bishnei keilim nodarta. What are you doing? Why are you bringing one? You said two. Hikrivam shnei keilim shair. If he brought in two, he listened to them, he changed your your your route, shair. Here's a little difference. Bishnei keilim bigli echod, but if you put into one kli, kishtei menachos shnei esronim. This has a halacha, if anybody recalls we learned about this. We have two menachos that get mixed up. So if they're not completely mixed in and you can make out the two menachos. You see this is mincha alef, this is mincha bais, they're both in the bottom of a giant frying pan. So you just take a kemitzah and you go yoitzei. Nothing happened. If they're mixed in, then you have a problem. Says the Gemara, utzricha. Huh? Okay. Utzricha. The Gemara simple utzricha say here, why do I need two different cases of a guy messing up between a a frying pan and a deep dish and a guy messing up between two esronim and one esaron? It's the same idea. So di ashmin anaha k'meisa, mishum d'omar if we're just talking about a person promised to bring in a marcheshes and he brought a machvas, mishum d'omar k'meisa marcheshes. Aval hak Okay, that's why you completely messed up the type of mincha, it's a different type. Aval hak didi be machvas, you're bringing the same type. Didi be marcheshes. Aimi dinidri nami yoitzei. You brought the right amount, it's the right amount, just not in the right keilim. So I think I'll let it go, let it slide. Maybe he doesn't have to redo it. No, you have to redo it. Vi ashmin anaha, and if it only said the case of the the amounts and the keilim mishum d'kol palig lo. At the end of the day you're breaking up your carbon. You promised the a gezunta two esronim uh like what's two Australian in like 10 pounds and instead of you wrote two five pounders. No good. The but by the Marches he brought the right amount he just brought the wrong clay MLA I'll let it slide I don't know exactly why but I think so three car. We learned that you could bring it but you have to you have to bring you continue don't throw it in the garbage it's okay it's a good he probably meant he probably had another another in mind but he has to bring another one. But in all the every case if a person said in Marches and he brought a Marches you you it's a you it's a zoo because at the end of the day I think it has to do with his he holds it has to do with his Marches and he put it he put into the into the Marches at the end. At the end he that that was his thing okay. Interesting. zoo If he said only this this flower I want to bring in a pan and he ended up bringing it in a Marches it's possible. Why is it possible? Take it out of the out of the Marches and start all over again. What did the pan do? What did the what did the Marches do? We learned that the doesn't have an effect on it. I'm you're right it doesn't have an effect to the point that you could continue bringing it on to the I will possible which we had the other day it has enough effect to make to ruin it. Oh. So what happens? You have sponsors. Sponsored by Bennys. A person on Sunday says I want to bring a carbon to the Migdash. And on Monday he goes to the store and he buys a bag of flour and he takes out from the flour. So when exactly does he decide that he's going to bring a frying pan and a deep dish? At the time of his when he says when he specifies I'm going to bring a Marches. Now when he pulls the flour out of the bag at that point it's too late you can't decide then. You decide already then. When you're removing the flour from the bag light why? Says in the possible as you make a a vow but not when you are separating and removing and and putting aside the flour. It Marches Omar Hanina It's Marches a freebie three lines of freebie we have a few freebies today. I will you have to say by the time that you say the it's all about again once again you see the idea it's about your speech your not the of removing the flowers. When you say I'm going to bring a Marches Marches why? Because it's below Marches he fresh though. I pointed out in the Hebrew share and I want to point out here as well that I feel privileged to sit in a room where there are a bunch of people in this room who on said hello with a car. And there are a bunch of people in this room who said taco. There are some people in this room some people in this room [clears throat] that fasted on Marches. No there's nobody in this room that fasted but maybe in the Hebrew share there a few that show up there. But at the end of the day we all get along we're all friends and we all respect each other's car. My comes from my father who gets it from his father sometimes I question that sometimes I say I don't understand maybe I should do like this like that but this is what I do. So I appreciate the fact that this year I didn't receive any emails why did you say happy Marches when you say this every year I get a little you know stuck from this one that one. We have such a variety of people in the same room the same room. There's people that said hello without a people with a people people that didn't do anything just no there's all types. Some said hello some people had some direction and they don't understand how no seriously it's I always have found it interesting like you come to me like why don't you do this and I don't come to you and say why don't you do that? We all have our and we might be right we might be wrong but a bunch of doing the same thing we're learning together in the same room that's what we're doing. >> [applause] >> I want to tell you this morning my my my my son-in-law sent me a clip that's going around I guess from work with it's great. He brings from Schmuel Schmuel said the base on the Satmar of you have to have a tremendous of life to to all why? Because Satmar of says the analogy go to the because if you go to the so you're going to have to have a to have. So if you go to the you have to have a to have. It's a more to give up. According to the Satmar of you have to have a to have. That's what Brookwood said it. Okay [snorts] you I went yesterday to the and I enjoyed myself a lot I had I wanted to take a video I forgot to take a video for him to why but I went to the as a I had a give the to have. One day I'll tell the why tremendous ready to go I remembered hey when I was in America I was in Chicago and something good happened to me I got on a plane went to the didn't go to visit my family nothing got on went to the but after cuz I didn't want to make it a trip that I went the got back into the car went back home to America. So if I live in what should I go to the I went I went with my wife. It's a stickle better I'll tell you it's when you you might get here so you have a privilege. Some privilege I drove into the pulled up. Yeah pulled the the gates they go can't even get in. No they see the license plate it opens up it's Marches automatic you go in. I have I have and then the the the the two cops there with this. Cops at the this the this the whole thing. We'll have more than the cooling. All right. So after mission >> [clears throat] >> I really I really I really Marches This is a famous Marches this we have over and over you should all be familiar with this why? Listen to this. We all learn this. What is made out of barley? So you thought So you thought and I am right. That's because you learned the you know there's only two that are made out of barley. If a if a man a man whose wife did not warn him not to be with another woman. There's no such thing. A site a site of a man is not a site. If a man gets up there and says I want to bring a out of barley and it's not it's not so it can't be she screamed at him not to be a site. Do not be a site. He's a yeah. How's it possible that a man says I want to bring a barley car? There's only if he's a woman and his and his husband warned him not to be somebody I get it but he's a man. A man cannot bring barley. So what gets up there and says I'm bringing a barley car. So what do you do? What do you do in such a case he said I'm bringing a barley new. What do you say Rabbi Rocky? What do you do in this case? Huh? Who? What about? No I didn't hear. So you again? No. Okay Rabbi say there's something called twice Russian twice Russian I could take you said it? I give it to you bro. It's a it's a Marches. A guy contradicts himself he says something so do I take his first the first part of the sentence I really I Marches period. So you bananas so you then I don't everybody knows you don't you don't make a Marches out of banana so that part I ignore or perhaps no. The guy was saying I really I Marches all of a sudden realized wait a minute Marches I have to drive now all the way to the so bananas so I'm going to erase what I said by saying so you that's going to erase the so it's it's a Marches to be sure we still do I go by the first do I go by the beginning or I go by the Marches okay you like that the video okay good me too. You might like me this me this machine. me this me this not me this me this. me this unbelievable me this unbelievable. So you mission I really I Marches he messed up he contradicted himself I want a mincha, I want it out of barley. Every mincha in the world is made out of wheat besides two that are not nogea today. Yavi min achitim. We say he meant to bring a mincha, so'irum I don't I ignore. What if he says kemach, I want to may bring it out of flour. Again, only a so'ita brings kemach. Everybody else brings so'iles. Yavi so'iles. Bring it like a mench. If he says b'lo shemen u'v'lo levona, new those of us who learned menachos, what mincha does not have oil? You know how the Israelis remember? They said men the orebach. Sh'lei choit taniskar. They all remember that. They remembered how? Why a guy that does a sin, he should gain and he shouldn't have to pay the $2 that the oil cost? So that's how you remember. Choita does not bring oil. B'lo shemen u'v'lo levona, he he messed up. The only people he's not a he's not bringing a mincha because he's a choita. He's not bringing a mincha because he's a so'ita or a sho'ita. He's bringing a mincha because he wants to bring a mincha. So he messed up. Yavi shemen u'v'lo levona, we ignore him. The second part of his statement, disregard. First part of the statement, "Harei alai mincha." Bring a mincha like a mench with levona, with so'iles. What if he says chatzi so'irum? He has it. We all know a mincha must be at least one isar. He ignores it. Yavi isar shalei, we ignore him and he brings a full isar. Isar u'mechtza, this is a good one. This is one and a half. There's no such thing. I got it. Gevallik. What What about isarna one and a half? Yavi shnayim. There's no such thing as one and a half. So bring two. Reb Shimon poiter. Reb Shimon says every case in this mishna, poiter. If a guy says, "I want to bring a mincha made out of barley," he doesn't have to bring anything. Sh'lei snadev k'dei r'chamis nadvim, because that's not how people say it. So if he said it the wrong way, that means he wanted to erase his initial comment. Instead of just saying no no no, he says so'irum. And so'irum means nothing. The doctor barley, what if he says he wants rice flour? Something that was never brought before. >> So the gemara is going to talk about it. I threw in bananas, which is [clears throat] wrong. The gemara is going to talk exactly about what you said. Dafka barley, the difference between barley and anything else is cuz barley is something that is brought. And if you don't do the daf, certainly if you don't do the daf, you ask a a general person in the street, "What What is a mincha made out of barley or wheat?" He most likely will not know. If you ask him, "Could I substitute barley for wheat?" Or "Is there any mincha that's made brought out of barley?" He wouldn't know. How would a guy know? There's no way for him to know. Am I neder pischoy im o hu? Isn't he trying to change, rectify, whatever the loshon is? He in the neder, he has an opening. It's me'ein I say inyan. It just It's a beautiful thing that I think about constantly. It's a just the the moshol of how within every um Uh what's the word I'm looking for? Um within every ma'aseh that happens. That's not the right word. Within every area, okay, you'll you'll you'll insert that word. Every situation. Every situation that we go through in life, you have the answer within. But the what one of the most beautiful mosholim, or not a moshol, a ma'aseh sh'haya is Yosef Hatzadik. Yosef Hatzadik dreams he's going to be a king. A minute later, he turns into a slave. How How's it pos- like from Cuz Hashem is giving me hints that I'm going to be a king and I'm going to be a slave. But a regular person says to himself, it's simple, you know, something's wrong here. I was lied to. I was This is not fair. But within the actual story, the only way he could be a king is with that contradiction. By By him being a slave. So anyways, within every everything in our life, everything that we go through, the answer lies right there. It's neder pischoy imai. Uh on the one hand you have a neder, but you have a pesach. You have There's an understanding. There's a way out of it from within it. Omer Chizkiyahu, "Homani b'Shammai." Oh. So here's the machlokes Bais Hillel u'Bais Shammai. Bais Hillel say, "Oh, before I show you this, let me just show you the characters. The characters, you have so'iles and so'irum. So'iles is is you know, the number one. Most of the menachos are made out of of so'iles. And who's the last man standing? Rishon and and so'irum is is loshon acharon. So when you see the the so'iles, Bais Hillel say the the acharon stands. The the barley is the one standing. Tofes loshon acharon. And Bais Shammai say tofes loshon rishon. You go by the first part of the statement. Bais Hillel say you go by the second part of the statement. Says Chizkiyahu, "I go with Bais Shammai." Our mishna goes like Bais Shammai. Again, a person says, "Harei alai mincha." I want a mincha. So he has to bring a mincha. The second part of the statement, so'irum, I ignore that. Disregard. So I'm tofes loshon rishon. Chizkiyahu says this mishna goes like Bais Shammai. Slightly problematic cuz we go like Bais Hillel. How do we fit this mishna into Bais Hillel? Homani b'Shammai, the rishonim tofes loshon rishon. D'snon "Harei nozer min agurges." If a person says, Here's Rabbi Tertzman again. Look at this. He's standing there next to the grapes. What he says, "Oy oy oy." Check this out. A person looks and he says, "I want to be a nozer." A nozer is somebody that refrains from grape product. He doesn't drink wine, grapes. And he looks at the at the at the figs and he says, "I'm going to be a nozer from figs." So again, once again we have a pelgina dibura. We have "Harei nozer." Period. I'm going to refrain from grapes. Uh figs? Disregard figs. So that's the the classic machlokes. It's not "Harei nozer min agurges u'min hadveila." Dveila is, you know, you glue the dveila something like this where they press the figs together. So his his words contradict each other. Bais Shammai say, "Rishon nozer." Bais Shammai say he's a complete nozer and we disregard. So in other words, tofes loshon rishon. Let's grab the first words, disregard the second. Bais Hillel say, "Rishon nozer." You go by the second words. He he meant refraining from figs and that doesn't exist. So that's Chizkiyahu. Chizkiyahu says I go with Bais Shammai, everything's great. Says Rabbi Yochanan, "I prefer to go with Bais Hillel." And in fact, the gemara is going to say that that Chizkiyahu also goes with Bais Hillel at the end. Rabbi Yochanan amar, "Afilu teima Bais Hillel, we could go with Bais Hillel." But Omer, "Ilu eisi u'dei ashei nodrim kach, eisi nodrim kach u'kach." Says Rabbi Yochanan, "I go even though Bais Hillel says typically tofes loshon acharon. And he said barley and there's no such thing barley. But he explains himself. If a person explains himself right away, he says, 'Listen, I didn't do the daf. I don't know anything about mincha. I tried to be smart guy. That's what I have at home. I said, 'Let me bring a mincha out of barley.' If I would have known there's no such thing, I wouldn't have said I would have said wheat. Okay, so bring a mincha out of wheat." I'm explaining what you're doing. Omer Chizkiyahu, "Lo shonu ela d'oma mincha min adashim." So'irum is something that exists in the Bais Hamikdash by a so'ita, by omer. So okay, so he messed up a little bit. Aval omer, "Mincha min adashim." If a person says that I want to bring a mincha from lentils, that's what Rabbi Aryeh Schuman was asking. Lo he's completely poiter. Asks the gemara, "What's going on here?" L'choira, if you say tofes loshon rishon, so the guy says, "I want to bring a mincha." Period. End of the story. Bring a mincha. The fact that he added on a watermelon or lentils, ignore. Michti Chizkiyahu amar amar Rabbi Schuman d'Chizkiyahu ozel like Bais Shammai. U'Bais Shammai mishum tofes loshon rishon. And they go You just use the first words. Mali min aso'irum, mali min adashim. So what difference does it make if he said so'irum or adashim? Says the gemara, "Hadar bei." He [clears throat] actually holds Oh, I forgot to put this in here. If you go mincha min adashim, poiter. Why? Because you're going by the adashim. And that's why he's poiter. So in other words, I hold tofes loshon acharon. How can you hold tofes loshon acharon when you hold tofes loshon rishon? Rabbi Yochanan on the other hand says, it's problematic also. He says that if a person says mincha min adashim, you you you have to bring a a mincha. That means that I I I stop. I go mincha. Period. So that means I go by loshon rishon. But he holds like Bais Hillel that says loshon acharon. But that's not the gemara's kasha. So hadar bei. The real question is why hadar bei? Why did he take it back? Maybe there's a difference between adashim and so'irum. And that's what the gemara is going to ask. By adashim, there's no mistake. By By so'irum, you can make a mistake cuz that's in the Bais Hamikdash. But nobody every every even even a guy that never learned menachos in his life knows that you cannot bring a mincha out of lentils. Ask anybody. Go to shul tonight. You can ask them, "Is a mincha made out of barley or wheat?" Nobody will know. But if you ask him, "Is a mincha made out of lentils or wheat?" They'll tell you no no no. Not Not Not lentils. Not for sure not. Yeah. That's uh 2026. Not then. Hadar bei. Says the gemara, "My time hadar bei." What's the real reason? Omer Rabbi Mesarsya shetei. He had a He had a problem with the mishna, Chizkiyahu. If it's true that like that the mishna goes like Bais Shammai, they go with the first words and we don't go with the second words. "Mayir d'tani mincha min aso'irum l'sanei min adashim?" Tell me what speak you chidush. When a person if you go with loshon rishon, a person says mincha, so even if he adds on some something silly like like lentils, we still go with it. "L'shmani no mishum d'to'i." The whole point of the mishna is that we go it's a mistake. "B'so'irum to'i." You can make a honest mistake between uh a flour from wheat versus flour from barley because in the base of migdal you have barley also sometimes. But I don't like that. Here, coming up we have the omer coming up. It's made out of barley. But I don't like that. But nobody's going to make that mistake. If a person says, like you see in the right bottom corner, if a person says I don't like that, you have to bring it. Why? Because he holds that the whole mishna is going to be silly. And the whole point of being silly is why even though they typically hold that you go by the last words. And the last words were omer, and that's a no-gooder. But the reason why we go with the with the lashon rishon here is because he made a mistake. He explained himself. He said, "Had I known, I wouldn't have said omer." But I don't like that. I don't like that. In fact, but in in I don't like that he doesn't make a mistake. So, you should go with lashon acharon according to the mishna. He goes like this. But he's telling I don't understand you. Why did you come to my team? Why did you reverse your shita? You went from saying that the mishna goes according to the mishna goes according to that I have a problem with. Why? Stay on your team. You hold so far as you prove it from the mishna that the mishna used the word omer instead of I don't like that. Maybe that's not such a great question. Maybe the mishna was saying I don't like that and that certainly is no question in I don't like that. Because a person took it back and he's he's going with the first language. I don't like that. The reason the mishna uses the lashon of omer is because maybe in I don't like that and omer a person can make a mistake. I feel still go with the first lashon. Daf kuf gimmel amud bet. Brand new sugya. Sponsored. Good time for a sponsored talk. Turning the daf. Adar Global, specialists in international financial services. Chaim Milrod, for shlema im marossi, fratto eto, eto bas chana bas yaakov, shaar cholei yisroel, amen. Omer zeri. Okay. We can we can show the video. Let me give out the video. What's his first name? Itzy? Itzik Lebovich is a is a Satmar chossid. And he lately has been going around making um short clips to get people to do the daf. He'll stop people on the street. I think I showed a video to his he he he drives a minivan for parnassah. He's fluent in English. And uh he he learns the daf four times a day. Four times a day. He knows how to learn. He's a good learner. But he has it in his bones that he wants to get another person. He says it changed his life. Last year was unbelievable and he wants to get more people to learn Torah. So he went ahead and made this video. And I saw this clip this morning. After I saw the clip, I was walking to shiur today and I said, "Wow, it's a good clip. Imagine if more people made clips like that." So, I want to make an incentive. I want people to send in their clips. Send a clip, but also post it to your status. Any clip that you post to your status will be included. Benny, I'm making you in charge of this. I'm going to forget. >> [laughter] [laughter] >> So, any person who sends in a clip, any clip, could be 10 seconds, 5 minutes, will uh entry entry the contest. First prize winner, $2,000. Second prize winner, $1,000. Third prize winner, $500. It's not going to be No, it's going to be Benny is going to decide the winner. The the people on this table are going to decide who's number one, two, three. We're going to show all the clips as they come in. And huh? Who? Medidas. The medidas are going to decide when you see medidas here. Okay. So that's we're starting today. Um here's the first one. First entry. This guy is a big contender in the century. Check out this entry. I don't like that. Oh, this is Hebrew. Sorry. The real guys. These guys really do it. 880 days is the mishna. All right. It's valid. That's entry number one. I don't know if he he he he can't drop below 500 this guy. How you going to do it? There's going to be more than two that Try to do it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's bring those guys Bring your statuses in. Bring them in. Yossi, you got a status for us? Coming? Good. Right now, middle of shiur. He's not wasting any time. Good. Valid. Okay. When a guy says this this whole thing that twice lashon rishon I don't like that you got the first words in the sentence is because he said I don't like that I like I don't like that. The omer he says I don't like that I I want to bring an omer. But I don't like that omer But if he didn't say I don't like that omer, what did he say? Says Rashi, listen, this is a little tricky. You got to write it in with your pencil. He said, "I don't like that omer." It's a big difference. If a person says I don't like that omer, omer, so I could split his words. Anybody who speaks Hebrew knows. I don't like that omer, period. Omer is another sentence. When a person says I don't like that omer, omer, the omer goes together with the word omer. You cannot split those two words. They're together. Omer omer. It's an omer of Omer means omer of omer. I can't break his words. And therefore you don't say he would be partner. Cuz he said specifically you can't make two sentences out of one sentence. If you can't make two sentences out of what he what he said, so what he said is a contradiction and and therefore he's partner. You call my law I don't like that. So I don't like that it's over. It's I don't like that. I don't like that. What about in the mishna it says I don't like that. The mishna doesn't say what he said. It doesn't say in the mishna I don't like that I like I don't like that. I don't like that I don't like that. My love I don't like that. He didn't say I don't like that I don't like that. He probably said looks like in the mishna he said I don't like that I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that sorry. I don't like that he said. Now, a person Rashi explains a person doesn't say anything I don't like that. Person doesn't just stand and say things. So may law when he says I don't like that I don't like that that he's being then then then he's being serious. I don't like that I don't like that. My love I don't like that. Even without saying I don't like that he's valid. I don't like that No, you have to say he said no, only in a case where he said I don't like that I don't like that like Ziri says. Now, the so free me I don't like that I don't like that. I don't like that I don't like that. He said I don't like that. I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that. I don't like that I don't like that. But the mishna is setting up this question. I don't like that. What about the end of the mishna? Says he I don't like that. If a person said one and a half he has to bring two. Even though I don't like that. So ask the Gemara, once a person says the word omer, according to you, Ziri, he says omer? If I don't like that omer, then you say twice lashon rishon. When a person says omer, then the what the first thing that he said is good. I don't like that omer. Why is he valid two? He didn't say anything on the second part is nothing. His twice lashon rishon goes on a full omer. The second part of half is nothing. If you want we can see Rashi real quickly. I don't like that I don't like that. If he didn't say the word omer, he has to bring two. But because he explains himself away if I would have known. I don't like that I don't like that. But if he says But if he says the word omer and he says the word I don't like that, so the word omer goes on the and I don't like that is nothing. I might maybe trade. Why should he bring two? You Ziri say you have to say the word mincha. So now he did say mincha. But only on one of the two words. So it has to be related to him. If you say if you don't say the word mincha, this is gives a better here. If you don't say the word mincha, you don't have to bring it all. So over here he said mincha So the mincha is going to go on the part. And on the he never said mincha on it. So he shouldn't bring it all. So he said you're right. The he didn't say one and a half, he said a half and one. And the word Time out. So look what I look at what the does here. A little different than what you think. Let's say half Yeah, we're changing it around a little bit. The key to the mincha So the word mincha right there and then means a full mincha. If a guy says I really how much does he have to bring? One without explaining how many there is. If you when he says I want to bring a half, the on the half part we're going to disregard completely. And then here's what's going on here. He says mincha, that's one. He says that's zero. And then he says that's another one. One plus one equals two, that's why he says bring two. But if he really says mincha in this You tell me that a person doesn't say at all. A person he said over here mincha. So why does he say he doesn't have to bring anything? He said I really he should at least have to bring he should have to bring some. Am I am I There's another slightly different We have twice as We have twice as and we have a we have a called He's busy he's busy making a status. Look at him with his phone over there selling. We [snorts] have And then we have we have a that combines the two and says listen, if there's a Mish If there's a here, then we have to disregard everything. We have to we have to we have to So I'm almost losing my words. We have to No, not that. We have to consider every statement that he says. So we're going to consider the first statement and the second statement. But they contradict each other. So so nothing. That's why he doesn't bring anything according to him. Okay. The Mishnah. And here we're going to come to one of the a classic I can't wait. We had this already. It's for us. A person brings a giant clea of 60 is A typical one is maximum is 60. That's the maximum that can go in one vessel. And I realized she should But what if he goes over the limit? It seems from the Mishnah that you bring one clea that has 60 and one clea that has one. Don't try to break it down. 30 and 31 just Don't break it 30 and 31, just 60 and one. Okay? Or maybe sorry. Okay, let's see what maybe beyond the reason on Sukkot. That's the most you could ever bring. She should Here, let me show you beautiful thing that did here. Every every sheep you bring one You see they're holding one in their hands. And the the aisle is two per aisle. Cows are three. 13 * 3 is how much? 39. 18 * 1 is how many? Very good. >> [snorts] >> 2 * 2 is four. So 4 + 18 is how much? 22 and 22 + 39 is 61. Even if you don't know math you can cheat and look at the top. It says 61. 61 is on. So that's the max, 61 is on. So he says So if the brings This is interesting. No one's going to love this one. If the brings 61, you know what? Take one off the the the community of an individual. An individual can bring up to 60. I'm It doesn't make any sense what you're saying. By the way, these 39 that you bring with the cows with the bulls, they 18 of the sheep, they they never go into the same ball. How did you just make a mincha that has 60 in one ball when the bulls and the the sheep never go in one ball? It's forbidden to mix it. That's why it's to mix. That's exactly why it's You can't mix different different times of The point is physically speaking, you cannot mix more than 60. makes no sense what you're saying. 60 you could, but 61 not? Call me with a tough at end. Call me What are you talking about? Everything in in in is like that. But so it says you need 40 to be or but 40 minus one little drop the smallest amount, you cannot do it. That's the question. The maybe So this How do you know if a person says 61? Maybe bring 61 The famous If anybody wants to remember this one. The famous story of him coming up like him coming If you want to remember where that story is, everybody knows that like him. So it says over there that that's why they started calling him the That's the whole story that started the whole fight. The Romans wanted to because he he stuck up for the Romans. The The says from this they see that the the government has power over them that they could decide that so and so should be a because they became the because of the guy. on him he said This whole thing that we just said that you can bring 60. So in you should bring 61 you bring 60. All right, this you mix in the morning this you mix in the evening. They don't go together. And so so what what the shot? Bring something that you can mix. What? 60 you can mix, 61 you can't. Here this guy like this. Call me this Kenny. This is how it goes in the whole entire There's nothing you can do about it. But so it says 40 The the smallest amount of liquid and you have to Listen to this. Listen to this. This you have to remember. Because in the video you're going to see you're not going to understand what it is. You need a full egg to become from a If it's less than an egg then it's not it. Less than an egg is not it. Some people one sesame seed and they say it. So let's do Let's do Let's do Let's check this out. I love Ooh. Yes, this is it. It's not quite sure. Now it's kosher. >> [laughter] >> Oy vey. Of course there IS A WHAT ARE YOU TALKING? THERE IS NO IT. MAYBE let go of me. Be quiet and let me argue and learn. So, what are these guys? >> [laughter] >> This is my idea from beginning to end. >> [laughter] >> Okay, let's just finish up here. Three and three gives a nida that sit on on a chair on a piece of baguette. Should we finish this? It's an hour. 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