Daf Yomi Makkos Daf 6 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] live from Chicago. It's actually not just it's 5:15 in the afternoon and I understand there's a bunch of guys on Zoom and on YouTube. It's incredible. Incredible yontiff. People are running and going. Back in the day, this is the time that was like, "Oh, I forgot to do theis and then broiling the the incredible incredible should have every should have a good y with not a whole lot. A little fighting is okay. It's normal, but not too much. You know, like the Sahara loves to step in there and that's when the wife gets you upset and the kids and you like, "Oh, you finally have that seder going and that kid makes that one comment and a should give everybody a a peaceful." So, this is the third cheer today so that the am could be ahead or not be ahead, not fall behind. That's what I should say. And uh I wanted to give a tremendous tremendous tokenazi even though it's sitting with me for three hours on uh just sitting there recording behind the scenes and and making everything happen. It's going to be more than three hours by the time we're done. So I could not do this without you. Tremendous. The wow 20 people on Zoom, 20 people on YouTube. That's a total of 40 people which is incredible if you come to think about it on a that's the power of that's what it does to a person. It breaks human beings like us and it makes us people that are learning to learning to two hours before probably the most difficult yontiff to get ready for the is sponsored by anonymous. So today's shear um I'm gonna take out I had a my favorite joke basically my f all-time favorite joke I I realize is on today's daf I'll have to say it tomorrow stories things like that we're going to go on a on a on a little bit of a pace and basm will be uh the shar is going to be within 45 minutes we should be done and if you put it on 1.5 speed it's a lot less than that churns in honor of family in memory of their May our learning bring us closer to one another in monthly sponsors sponsors month. Thank you to Rebelli's wife and kids for the great sacrifice they make allowing him to spread to the masses. Thank you to Marshkinazi's wife who's allowing her husband to do this on every I don't know how she does it. I don't know how she allows him but okay that's their thing. MDY kids monthly and Mrs. You know there's certain things that just beyond my comprehension um like uh the size of the universe and things like that I just don't get. But here you have a a human being his name is Fishell and he has brought seven alone alone by himself he's brought 700 people to the sh to learn you you hear the number 700 that's like taking 70im regular and putting them together it's an incredible number 700 to you to your family to everybody. Art of the month for in honor of Kleinazi for all the work they do says the B the famous oh you know what um Benny Rodnik put this in for the Hebrew but it's appropriate to talk about it right now he says like this he he sponsored the Hebrew shar today by Benny Rodnik. Okay, that's fine. But he goes on to say 246 all the people are behind the scenes and we have to talk about all of them. We have to give a tremendous to Marshkinazi to Kobe Gmid who's the Hebrew editor to Yoshi Weiss who was up the last few days. I know for a fact because I was dealing with him. I was talking to him till 3 3 in the morning and one day till 5 a.m. so that we could have art and that's you know trying to capture the kitchen and doing this and every stuff that everybody's doing but the am is behind the scenes. They're working hard and your Amy Cohen who's done a ton of stuff behind the scenes. Ariel Liba who is our English editor and Shimi Liwoodz who is our English editor Shimmy Kramer was my kabus and my rebby who's on the phone with me well not every day but this today he was on the phone with me yesterday no whatever but he makes it happen I I called him up and he was in the middle of doing stuff for Fonda I dropped everything on the spot and let me start learning Dave Sharfman the famous Dave Sharman So unreal. So to all the guys, I know that we're missing some people, but there's a lot of people behind the scenes. We have no fix and uh Mosha Blast and and and Usher Stfansky who are putting that whole program together, the retention program and all the Kashu Fishell and Yosi Klene and Nissan Gans and Morty Rubin and the kids are the list goes on and on and on and on and of course Saul Rosenberg who put out thousands of gimmar sent them all did all the shipping and the labeling. Okay, my boy said we have a daff to do so we got to go the famous testimony you need at least two or three ask the famous question you could kill somebody based on two or three if you could kill somebody based on the testimony of two of them so certainly Why does the to say three to teach us a lesson here? Obviously, if three people were were on a cruise ship and they say you two that you testified that so and so killed somebody, you're liars. You were with us on the cruise. Three beats two. So two two beats three. That's the that even though the that the second pair of they're they're accusing three people, five people, a 100 people, two people could accuse 100 people. Two could kill three people even though three is more than two. How do you know that even 100? If we look at this, why does it have to say it should say why does it say why does it break it up? There's an extra word aiden to teach us even 100 says typhus who told you to to jump to 100 maybe you go two three and the extra word says four the says two and three so the will say four how do you get to 100 so say it's logic because four is double the amount of two if two could kill four people so then there's no limit then it's unlimited then you go all the way to is not arguing over here. He's just saying there's no need for this possible. Why? Because we have a concept in all of Shaz two is like 100 two is 100. It doesn't matter if it's 100 versus two. We both of them the two could be 100. So then why do we have the now what we learn over here that the third guy even though he's not necessary at all to testify that there was a there was a murder two is enough but the third guy since he joined the group now he's part and parcel with them and he gets the same punishment as them. So if two get punished by the death penalty, the third also gets the death penalty. Okay. Now the Mishna is going to take care of the mus part of today's I don't even have to do it. Says like this I don't give but I like to give little tips little things and some people like it some people don't. So here the mission is doing it for us. If you are not necessary at all, but you jumped on board and you became part of the of you decided to lie and testify that somebody killed somebody when he didn't. So what's your what's your punishment? You get killed just like them. So certainly [Music] says the famous Rashi. We know that there's that the good is that much better than the bad. How much better? says rashi 500 times more. He doesn't say specifically over here, but he says it in other places in chass 500 times. It's known, everybody knows you heard the dr 20 times or 500 times. But over here, he says, and you can just read what he says. He says, when it comes to it's 2,000, a minimum 2,000, maybe even more. But three generations or four generations. How many times does four fit into 2,00? 500. So the good is better. The the the the reward and the benefit of good is that is 500 times more than the bad. The says that we know that when it comes to chabas, let's say two people are carrying a heavy couch out the door on they go from to if one of them by themselves couldn't carry it. was too heavy, too large. He needed his friend. So each person becomes as if he himself did the entire thing or whatever it is as if he did it himself. Why? Because he couldn't do it by himself. So says his m is let's say they're building a mikvah. That's what he says building. That's his example. And they asked the the wealthy guy to give $100,000 and they asked the poor guy to give $5. the poor guy, he becomes a partner in this mikvah like the wealthy guy. That's what he says. That's the over here. And I thought to myself as I'm reading it, I'm thinking about Marshanazi and all the unbelievable people like the Yosi Klein of the world and and the um Saul Rosenbergs and Benny Rdnik and the kids who are all the all the editors and all the all the people that behind the scenes. The share cannot exist without each and every person. Each person has a role. Each person takes care of things and everybody's invited also. If you're not uh you know participating now you could always participate and do things. Nobody was asked to do the people jumped up and did the point is that right now let's say right now at this physical moment I myself am not uh broadcasting this year on my own. I need Marsh to sit in New York and Muny to be on the computer and do it. So there's a person who does more and there's a person who does less. But every person who does gets the entire you hear the entire says the explain the that's what it says over here. The ones who jump on and they're part of part of the bandwagon. They're part of the this train, part of this puzzle. Like the main guy doing the mitzvah. There's no one. Oh, he's giving the cheer. It's the guy that does the art, the guy that does the this. Everybody's a part here. And you know what? I'll add that all these guys, the 75 people right now, 75 people on live right [Music] now at 5:30 in the afternoon. It's literally 5:30 in the afternoon, an hour and a half before Yand. I'm not talking about the early Y that we're doing here in Chicago and I'm going to be late. I still have to drive and pack. Takes about an hour just to drive them. Say that. We'll talk about that later. But all the people that are on Zoom, all the people on YouTube, each and every one of you is reminds me last year also I had a little bit of a breakdown crying. It's like the culmination of all the shim of of trying to get ahead and okay no breakdown today we go but everybody that's part of the sh everybody that comes to the live sh is a huge part it's a mitzvah gets the entire let's say you have two and one of the is a relative relative and a relative is possible. So if you have three, you can't say, "Oh, you know what? He's a relative. Let's get rid of him." But you have two left. Oh, two. Two is good enough. No, no, no. If you're gonna get rid of him, you got to get rid of everybody. It's one package deal. That's the it's a package deal. It's one and how do you know if you have a hundred people and one of them is a relative he's pled and he's of course he's puzzle he passes all hundred. So we're going to have to see when we get towards the bottom I'll just throw it out now that first of all there's a there's a there's a whole here in the does it mean that these went to testify in Bez or not? That's what do you do at what do you do get that's later so I'll just say real quickly the rabbi says you two are the the the he tells the to say you two are my to exclude everybody else nobody else could be aid but if in fact he doesn't say that and one of the the brother of the wants to be aid or he wants to test he ruins it top This is only concerning life and death, trying to kill a murderer. Why? Because it says and we're trying to look for that's what it says in in the toy, right? In the whole we're learning, you always have to find the benefit of the doubt for the murder. We try to save people from from getting capital punishment. That's only by murder by But when it comes to money, this guy made his if you have three Adam and one of them is a relative, it's okay. Get rid of the relative. Now you have two Aiden that that could testify that so and so owes a million dollars. That's fine. argues the is going to say who's like we just said that when it comes to you could use use the other two says no this is how he passing this over here showing the talks about it that means that that's how the past even when it comes to monetary stuff if one of the is a relative he ruins it for everybody there are no and nobody's going to know that you owe a million dollars Because all the testimony goes out the window. And when when do they become possible? When these aid them that are possible, the the relative guy he did the what's in case you're brand new here is before you could give somebody a punishment, you must warn him. By the way, you are going to get punished. It says in he has to say, "Okay, I I agree. I will do it." And then he does he kills the person within that's but if there's no I have a great trick. What's my trick? I want to kill somebody and I don't want bez to do anything to me. So I make sure that when I kill the guy I kill him in Manhattan in front of a family. Yeah. A thousand people saw the murder, but now they can't do anything to me because two of the people are brothers and brothers are puzzle. No, of course that doesn't work. So when does it work? When is it a problem? If those two brothers, they warned me not to kill. They both said, "Don't kill because you're going to get the death penalty." That's when they both become Adam. Now they they made themselves Adam. And once you become a now you're part of this group and now that you are a relative now you're no good. But if you're not part of the group, you just happen to see it, then it's not a problem. The is going to explain how do you how can you differentiate this only works if all these witnesses, a hundred of them, they all testified within. What's this concept called? By the way, some people have a little bit of a difficult time. They see what does that mean? What is he says means as long as it takes to say which is about two seconds or less? All of them have to testify within two seconds. So he says how's it possible? It's a lot of people to hear testimony in two seconds. Each person is more than two seconds. How you going to listen to testimony from 100 people in two seconds? So he says no no no you didn't understand the break between each aid is so what do you do aid number one testifies the maximum break that you could take between him and the next guy is then the second guy testifies the maximum break he could take is then the fourth guy testifies and you cannot take a big break between each one so you have a 100 for 100 or 99 whatever the math is. No, sorry. So according to everybody that witnesses a certain thing, he becomes if that's the case, the guy that got murdered, the victim, he testified, he saw the murder, he saw that he's about to get killed. So he becomes a witness. Now he is pilatus. Why? Because he's biased. You can't you can't testify about yourself about what happened. And if he's biased, he's positive. So now he just ruined the adus. And the says that you could kill people based on. So obviously he himself doesn't ruin the we have to understand why according to you're saying that everybody that witnessed it becomes the aid automatically then he becomes puzzled from behind. Just think because here in Chicago I got a license to carry weapon, right? People very nervous here with every all the anti- a lot of people carry weapons. So we got a we took a we took a course and the whole thing. So they tell you if somebody breaks into your house then you're allowed to shoot him. But be careful that if he turns around and runs out the door, you can't shoot him in in the back because then you could go to jail, right? That's that not not literally what's going on here. But if you kill somebody from behind, so the guy that was killed never witnessed it. So he can't testify against or he can't testify against the murder. So that's okay. That's the case. What about near? If someone has relations with another person. So the person that is the victim, he should ruin the testimony because he's he's never witnessed who did it to him. says, "Forget the victim." But the perpetrator, the murderer and the in two different cases, they should save themselves because they are biased and they witnessed what they did and they ruined every he was quiet. He didn't know what to answer in this question. Save the day. The Torah says the only people that are that are I apologize for the sun coming through. I don't have shades over here. The only people that could ruin the are people that are going to make the edus. The victim is not making the He's not part of the testimony. You're right. He witnessed it. But he's not a yak. He's not making it happen. So a aid that's going to make the testimony happen. And he happens to be a relative. He's the one that passes it. says, "How does this what we discussed before how does know who wanted to be aid and who didn't want to be aid? Who ruins it and who doesn't?" How do we differentiate? Wow. 47 just on YouTube. Let's say somebody's sitting in his house. He's relaxing and all a sudden he hears gunshots. He hears screaming outside. is crazy. So he runs outside to see what's happening. Why did he run outside? Because he's curious or because he wants to testify. That's what we ask him. If he says, "I want to testify." Then he becomes an active member of the testimony team. And if you're part of the testimonial team, then you can ruin it for everybody. If you're a relative, if you just said, "I came to see then Then what are you supposed to do? If two people w two brothers witness the murder of course he's you killed a murderer. So asked the question every get usually a lot of times by get you can imagine that a woman is is feeling v vulnerable and she wants a little moral support. So she brings her her mother she brings her her sisters with her to be or she brings her brother I should say. So the brother is so how how come he doesn't ruin it? And this is what we say that you have to exclude today we exclude etc. Says says that what says on top of the over here that the only time a relative ru is when it's not. So he says you're right that one individual aid could ruin the entire group of even in Mus. Now we turn to base turn global onestop shop for all your financial needs. Innovations LLC in honor of our sons camel 12 and 9 for learning san with rebelli in honor of global andovations true role models of how to support the do and learning the 81 people on both zoom and YouTube. What a keshm. What a tremendous to sit by a computer, to sit by your device and listen to and be involved in it's incredible. I know that many many years of my life I didn't do that says the now we're talking about testimony that happened from two vantage points and the two don't know about each other. The two sets of Adam don't know. So here's the picture. So here we have two Adam that have blue laser beams coming out of their eyes on the right side and two Adam that have pink laser beams coming out of their eyes from the on the left side. We're going to discuss also one aid on one side and one aid on the other side. What we have is they're witnessing the he has a knife. I apologize if it's not perfect. I took this guy whatever. He's like standing. He's like not 100% uh artsy in the right place. He's he's actually standing and Okay, he's jumping. Fine. Not this one. Sorry. I was just wondering how come the boat is not moving. Okay, here we go. Um two se from one window and two from another window. And as you see the guy with the he does he's screaming out you better not kill. If you kill you will get the death penalty one out of the two blue guys and one out of the two pink guys see each other then you can combine all four of them and they're one big testimony. So what happens if it's one big testimony? If one of the four is a is is related then all four are no good. If you want to be mazimm two out of the four and you want to get in the death you can't you have to be mas all four they become one group if they don't see each other then we view it as two separate groups of and therefore so I again I apologize for all these bubbles and they're large and not so uh good with the eyes. But okay, on the right side you see there's a orange bubble. It says if the two guys on the right were found to be liars, they were on a cruise ship when they claimed they saw the the murder. They were actually on a cruise ship in a different country. So we kill them. Now listen what happens here. This is very very interesting. It's fascinating fact because the two Adam were with the pink laser and on top of them it says a bubble. It says these are good witnesses. Nobody nobody testified against him. So they create a situation where the guy with the sword is going to die. So the guy in the sword is going to die. So if he's going to die, why the two on the right that are how come they need to die? Because they lied. But they lied about a true thing. They said that the guy is a killer and he is a killer. Too bad you lied. You weren't there. You're in another country. you are going to die for your what you did that we had the yesterday or today in the morning that it depends if they testify that there was a you're right then they don't die but since they didn't testify there's a they're testifying that they saw the killing mah they're trying to kill somebody that's not a they die so therefore it's possible to to separate the ones on the right have to do with the ones on the left. Why? Because the two Aiden don't see each other. The four Aiden don't see each other. And therefore, I could kill the ones on the right and I don't kill the ones on the left. It's interesting. The ones on the right, the green guys, the ones with the pink laser beams, they are potter. In other words, they're good. The only time the on the right are going to die is if they did. They gave the warning. How do I know this made them the whole thing has to be done by two way that's how he learns apostle they also they take the w they they they give the testimony that they saw the killing but they also gave him a warning so the guy in the doing the according to is not good enough he learned from this cannot hear testimony from a translator. This is where I have my favorite joke and I am going to save it for a different time. Maybe if I remember says in the name of the son of the name of Mark, we're about to show the video. How do you know? I'm going to tell you explain to you what it is here. You're going to see a video to explain it. The new the new types of videos now we're trying to do videos that explain more than videos that are funny. In this case, it's both. I think I like this video. Um, here we go. You won't believe this. Look at what the neighbor is doing. I punishable by death in Bastian. One of three aos kamuros. I can't even say out loud what he's doing. Who would believe what he does at home when no one is watching? Something but at different times. One minute the guy looked through the hole, he saw him uh in the middle of bowing. The next minute at a different time at a different period another aid saw the same kind of action but they didn't see at the same time that is what we call here's how I depicted it because this is uh the next similar case here you have two but they see from different angles from different vantage points that's also considered it might be at the same time but they don't see each other and therefore it's considered so I know that this is not a good testimony it says in the a person shall not die based on one aid what does it mean one aid it must be our case that it's two aid then just they saw it at different times why if you say that it means literally you can't kill somebody based on one It says any kid understands that when the Torah says you you kill based on testimony of two that means one not two yes one not so you must say means one by one one saw in the beginning of the minute and the other one saw at the end of the minute not at the same moment therefore it's not a good testimony We saw a very similar thing. So that's more in my case. Two people see him. One they see it from different vantage points. And the two don't see each other. They don't combine to make two like in the video. They see the same act but one after another. There's no zero if you cannot combine them. Bomb question in this case when they are both seeing the same time just they're seeing it from different windows from different vantage points. We're saying that's not a good testimony. So certainly the video where they're not seeing the same time at 5:50 New York time one guy sees it through the window and at 5:51 the second guy sees it from the window. They both saw saw him bowing of a desert to the Tesla but they didn't see it at the same moment. So of course it's not a good idea if when they see it at 550 at the same second just standing in different floors in a building and they don't see each other but they see the same action it's no good. So certainly if it's one after another, it's no good. When they're seeing the entire the entire act, they don't get together. Now I have a case where a person is doing a prolonged isser. He's he's uh with an so one saw one minute the next one saw the second minute. You think it's the same act? It should be it's not. So here we have the masro we said is the guy giving the astro here the guy with the striml is warning the murderer hey if you do if you kill you will die the two the one with the blue laser and the one with the pink laser they don't see each other but what they do see is the one that gives the warning that guy that gives the warning he's a so to speak he combines finds the two, he gets them together. He holds since he could see both. So he makes a connection between the two and those two become one pair of that's one Allah another Allah if the victim himself the holding the sword the gun says talks himself he says Mr. Don't kill. I'm telling you, you always get us into trouble when you kill. Don't kill. He's warning himself. That's enough of a warning. Even if it's for comes from a demon from the shed. Today, we can understand. Even if it comes from a cell phone, it comes from a a recording, a YouTube video, I don't know what it says on YouTube, warning, do not kill. And if you kill, you'll get the death. That's enough of a warning. It says, "I disagree that the when you have 188 here and 18 here, it does work for a million dollar loan, not for killing somebody, but for loans, yes, for money, yes. You cannot kill somebody based on one." And we explained already that 18 means one here and one there. In fact, it does work for monetary stuff. You're telling me that it only doesn't work to kill somebody. But what if you want to save somebody from the death penalty? We said you should try every way to get a murderer out of his murder. So if this doesn't work when you have one aid here and one aid here, what if it helps me to save the murderer? How in this case we're saying that no they don't combine the the good the bad they don't combine because they don't see each other but we should make them it should help me that it ruins the to save the guy it's a good cashio So says that the Aiden must testify. They must I'm sorry. They must warn in order to testify they must warn. In order to be possible these guys that we see on the screen, they must also warn the guy. Not only testify. Does actually agree that you need to warn somebody in this case? Why the famous a number of times? What happens if you have somebody that hates somebody else and he just so happens to be next to him and the guy's dead and you ask him what happened? He says, "Oh, I I killed him by mistake. We don't believe him. Why? Because since you hate him, it's obviously you killed him and it wasn't a mistake. Give you an example. Just recently, whenever it was, maybe half a year ago or so, the guy that was the the head of Wagner in Russia, the Putin hired this guy, whatever his name was, Yavino, I don't remember his name. Prians, whatever his name was, he was the head of the Wagner group. And it was they were like hired mercenaries, whatever they were, he hired this whole group, thousands of people to to kill the Ukrainians. And then this head guy, this Yeni, he got upset at Putin and he got into whole fight, a public fight. He embarrassed Putin a lot and then they made up and then he was flying a private plane and a missile hit the plane and Putin said it was a mistake. He apologized but meanwhile the guy's dead. Fell out of the sky by mistake a missile hit his plate by mistake. What does that say? Says if you hate somebody there's no mistakes. You hate the guy and the guy's dead the next day. So obviously you did it. says in this case I don't need as you you don't have to be warned you're you're you're a murderer you hate the guy so you killed him we said it in in Sanhedrin and we'll say is going to be in a second that when it comes to also or the wife of you don't have to warn him he knows better than you he knows that is more than you he knows the whole sh by heart you have to tell him if you kill somebody you will die there's no need for it according to according to yeah even needs to be warned that is exist or it's a great cash you're asking. In this case by us why does he say they have to the have to warn him the know already the the guy knows that you're not allowed to kill you don't you don't need the to warn he was already warned let's say by the by the guy in the so says the no the answer is simple it's a great question he asked from two differentes the who says you don't have to warn somebody who knows already his name is but our mission the famous you don't have to warn the whole point of the is to warn to make sure that he's doing it deliberately and he deserves a punishment but if you know for a fact that he knows what deliberate is not deliberate you don't have to warn him and thank you so much for being here today thank you Mark thank you to the editors is a with the