Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 75 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good today she is being sponsored for all theim the kidnapped for the safe return for the injured for healthy recovery for all the how are you all the way from Baltimore let's do today a capital we have done but it's one of the three cap that everybody's saying capim it's a long one it has double the amount of as the others so you know what we could say it together we don't have to do one one we'll say together we'll say it slow [Music] for [Music] for [Music] you shouldn't know for any more the terrible news came in from today that gave back hisama today I just mentioned the other day with The Spits of his hat he's in by the gun just there's a lot that he contributed to the shear with his wisdom and his and his jokes and his humor it's a tremendous loss forel re and just recently quoted humor statement from about the top of the fresh unfortunate difficult news of his this morning hurts a lot for me personally is a shining example of serving not only as a genuine but also and especially with making G that was that was that was him everything's Gish with every facet of extremely colorful person personality through which he was able to reach so many that no one else could reach again here's he's 94 years old to me and the way you use your and how result you're able to reach so many to oh we didn't start that yet okay fine don't worry may have more you using intimately call for personalities sharing the with many many more and so many really reach my own status I'm now taken as you first suggested sh's example of Lakewood New Jersey this is a beautiful ad that do Harris put together in London he does phenomenal work he's doing his part here's that famous picture of learning to he's doing are you doing yours learn in the of the injured and for the return of the kidnapped I have to say toen who woke up at 4 in the morning I spoke to him an hour ago so he was up he was trying to stay up through the night I told him don't be crazy go to sleep no no no I want to I want to be up and uh we called him and it sounded like he had just fallen asleep he so it's unbelievable the amount of different things that different people do behind the scenes that we don't even know Mark ashkanazi who's been doing this every day he's on a flight he'll be back tomorrow for tomorrow's Year tomorrow 2 o'clock right all right so bakama is starting November 4th a message from rabbi leafman here we go hi my name is shimmy lefan from Manchester and I'm super excited to be joining the shabas of next week for two and a half years fantastic D it has totally transformed my life and I've been able to transform other people's lives as well through getting people to join and and doing all different things so oh shoot I I wanted to I want to stop it it doesn't stop no we have to hear the whole thing again I want to St to say that look how serious he is professionals fantastic totally transformed my life and I've been able to transform other people's lives as well through getting people to join and and doing all different things so stenders we don't advertise and she about stenders sorry um so yeah super excited looking forward to meeting everybody if you haven't signed up sign up because this is a shabas you do not want to miss take care boai if shim is coming all the way from Manchester and you're in the tri-state area or in Chicago gotta come gotta come this is a b his name is bar Foreman he comes to the she every single day and you able to see if you saw him a year ago and today he literally his life has transformed he stays after she and he uh he learns another da in the mikra and he became serious serious guy uh he was in the Army you know last year and because of the situation so they called him up and here he is so so I just got back from base I'm off uh for 24 hours and I really just got to say thank you for everyone who helped out Bring stuff live on base and now can see all this got this Leatherman beef jerky beef jerky want to thank Donnie fine and the fine family and the mdy family and everyone just helping us uh we really feel the support uh we do have a long journey ahead of us and uh really just some really really amazing we really appreciate it Dan fine and all the that Don does they uh went out there and they we made a barbecue for them a whole thing so Bas will come back healthy and stronger than ever and not missing any daff he told me it's very difficult to learn over there and this the guy in the center is Ellie Rosen he also does the da every day and he worked for me for the past two months until he was called up literally just uh two three days ago he's been uh working every single day for me fulltime but also doing the da in the morning here he is R Bo said the guy in the center Ellie Rosen good morning so M our our brothers on the on the front lines okay not to forget Shout what do I want to show over here it says all in the bottom so I want to thank Nathan Kam ficial gr View and Madison title for putting this together uh to speak to some of the people that were speaking to me from day one when we decided to do the shabas we knew it's going to be a losing preposition there's no way you can make maybe there's a way to make money in this if we charge more money and I don't know what but the bottom line is it was always intended to be a week a weekend of of of celebrating toyra and in our situation I could speak for myself I know many other people this mat that we have right now is bringing us down it's a so yes we have to da we have to help out the the soldiers and the this and send them uh vests and and goggles and all the good stuff and food and bizly but we also owe it to ourselves to take care of ourselves and bring ourselves up so that we can help others if you're down then it's hard to to be others this this is it's designed to be a shabas of to bring themselves up we're permitted to celebrate and and the tremendous achievement of finishing half a finishing a entire s finishing to give us to go V there's two different things yes they're over there inar we spoke to the they said 100% go further go with it because from day one it wasn't intended to be oh going to dance and sing and and eat sushi that wasn't the thing it was all about getting together and being each other one one year to another so it's going to be tremendous shabas the is sponsored by the L and families Lakewood New Jersey because are the bestor for the unity of worldwide this is the last day Workman [Music] oh okay I just noticed it now Natalie Victor something like that in honor of Galia Ben Gustav the krait family today in memory of third one in honor of Ren and ficial gross is that one of you that's you you're in there I'm friends with oh everybody is for incredible for visiting MD London member we are one very fortunate big family thank you in the of the that come from supporting we are holding on the bottom of fire lines in the bottom let me ask St a question let's see if is with me over here it says in the tah that an cannot be part of our nation forever for 10ar so what happens if becomes a comes a g what happens is the G is it a g what is it can't be convert he can't marry doesn't say anything aboutt okay does everybody agree with him huh what do you say I'll tell you what the is what about his huh can be part of but maybe maybe two am will marry amus and they'll have a kid and the kid I don't know not maybe the son is a problem the daughter not hey what do you guys say huh the answer is that he's right and cannot come into our kah but if he decides to be go he's a g he's a Jew that's it so let's see say a child who's N9 years old in other words he's he's a g say for could be the Torah says how come they can never be part of our nation when you pass by over there they didn't come out with bread and water why do they need why do they need water why do they need bread they had M the good that steaks that pizza had everything they need ice cream all the good stuff Sushi what need so he says because yes they had M but when a guest comes you have to give him that feeling that feeling you're a guest here take this even though he hasn't his suitcase he's full he packed his back no you give him that feeling of hospitality and they didn't do that and because of that that they punished forever forever you hear this forever to give the guest a Gish feel they said a terrible story a mish on a on a roll here with my terrible stories there was a a kid that came K came to surprise his father he had a little bit of a Fallout with Y and last year decided to come to he put on a y he looked a little straight you know little earring or whatever but he had his y he's being respectful and he he came to to SCH to dance and he was dancing and he felt that people were cold to him he didn't feel the warmth of the like oh this is the guy the guy that caused his parents all this aggravation the bum of the sh this year he decided to do aover somewhere else he decided to do aover in and he was murdered this one of the stories running around there's actually a lot of those they call him the no the kids that that went off a lot of them were part of the group that got killed so just a thought like what would what would happen what if I mean it's not a good thing to think about what if but perhaps if they were a little warm at him and a little this who knows okay says the gar there so you have a g who's 9 years old we're going to talk about aater also they theim we're not sure if the real G we'll talk about it later father married a came out of M we spoke about yesterday they made her whether one of these three women one of them is a one is one is Isel these G that are not appropriate for the kahal because they're they create a in the woman so if she's a woman who eats Trum she's a she can't eat room anymore if she's a Israelis she doesn't eat trumo but she can no longer marry a she's she can't marry why she had a relationship with a G not a regular GE a so let's see what it looks like over here I'll show you this a little a little later but here's the here's what we have right now creates a they they they ruin it for the wife if they they marry to a woman she becomes puzzle for True she becomes posle to marry a later on let's say he dies she's an Al she can't marry a okay that's T ruin it for the wife let's look what says on this chart you see it on the chart over there I don't know not yet how about now yes oh okay top one is ruining for the wife says very very similar and we're going to have to see what the distinction is and so says something very very similar if the son that comes out of this Union let's say you marry an what happens to the son it's no good so if the kid is no good then the wife is also no good so the the same the same identical thing again T says if marries a woman then the kid the the woman is possible she can't marry K what does every say if they had a kid and that kid would be no good so she herself is no good she herself can't marry Co saying the same thing let's go one step fighter says if you could marry the daughter then you can marry the mother but if you cannot marry the daughter then you can't marry the mother basically all three are saying the same exact thing so thear is going to say no no no they're not saying the same thing there's a case where you can marry the daughter but you can't marry the son what's that case any why because the mother she's a she can't marry and what about the son son can't marry AES where where is it that the daughter is different in Ai and ai's daughter you could marry her yeah but you can't marry the son what about zarle the is going to tell you that there's let's see there is a small distinction between each and every one they sound almost identical all three sheas and that's the's job now is to break it down and show us that they're not identical okay so let's see inside yeah right okay so back to our open question so how does you would think by that statement it means you couldn't be a GE how do you learn that how else could they become if they don't no they is is for them to marry in but they can be Jewish the ma all the mitah marriage saying it's they cannot marry into our nation their daughters could like Russ and they themselves can't but they could become G they could do everything like a Jew B shabas everything they learning Yesa you just can't marry into the into I thought it would be a little bit of a to some people they could and and what if they get married they have a kid the kids are Jewish the the kid doesn't have to be mg she right away goes and marries into the Jewish Community the daughter they have a daughter two amas get married as GM they have a daughter send it to bakov she marries a regular Yesa guy no problem what's the problem she she doesn't get she doesn't have to make a gus Jewish that's the whole okay V hold on let's go V all these people create a p in this woman in other words she can't eat true she can't marry a little bit different if their child is for then that's the wife the mother becomes POS and if it doesn't create if it's not that bad that the child becomes POS then doesn't the [Music] mother if you could marry the daughter to then you can marry the cannot marry the daughter so now let's go through it actually let's just leave it on the chart what in the world is the difference between the two topas here very very okay it's a little tricky here it's like a trick question it's a genius question I have a situation that a second generation MIT who has a child the child is 100% ker so look at the words in the second she the is for then the mother's POS but the third second generation MIT the Z is not Z is 100% so the mother is also not that's in that case of a MIT Second Generation and they both learned the same they both arrived their from one thing just they took something else out of it from what so check take a look over here that what the rash brings down it should have said what's two L over there listen to this I this might be to people also do you know that to be a you don't have to be born into it you could become a after you're alive so if a woman is a divorce let's say and she and she had she marries a Cen she the with the extra L has the power to make her in other words he he passes her gives her a p he himself nothing happens to him he's pure he gives her the she's the one that suffers who marries an he makes her on the spot so two anybody that has makes it exactly I learned from him what and he in the word Z the T doesn't talk about the the The Offspring If the child is then the wife becomes the mother and therefore I say is by a second generation M where you don't create uh nothing happens to to the to the kid because he's a third generation MIT so he's Ker the third generation they could come into our nation so according to that kid is ker therefore his mother is ker it didn't you hear what's going on here when a has a relationship with a MIT Shing nothing happens to her why because her kid is koser and it goes by the kid the kid indicates what we should say to the mother if the kid is a third generation MIT which is ker so the second generation mother doesn't become now says takes it one step further a little bit different says if you can marry that daughter then you can marry that Al what's the difference between the second and the third which we already discussed so let's just see inside same idea goes just like marries as we said before as do if the child is and just like marri an Al the child is POS so too Al is possible she can't marry any another yeah you're right like all his children boys and girls boys and girls that this excludes one case of that the daughters are ker and if the daughter is ker then the mother doesn't become pule fine have this this D because if not it wasn't so P then right didn't know he claimed and therefore he married R and because of that we have the whole thing yeah woman why not oh she herself is a second generation yeah right the daughter with the daughter yeah the daughter yeah yeah the daughter for sure for sure so that doesn't what changes just because her husband is the second generation what changed no because you were talking about only the woman only the man was no I was talking about if the woman was no no if the man you're right yeah the woman's a regular je yeah she's not being contaminated by the man if she's already a second generation how how should we get uncontaminated her yeah oh yeah so it wouldn't work on her yeah everybody agrees so Isa we had the other day the definition of Isa is do do means there's a lot of ingredients there's a little bit of a problem here this is suff so if a woman marries an Esau in other words so let me show you what this means according to rash so we had this case where here's the guy yeah you're able to see this he throws a get and it lands exactly in the center in in his and her okay so that's the get that she has the guy thei dude he he goes to what is this woman is she a divorce or she's an Alman big difference if she's a divorce right so if she's a divorce she can't marry K if she's Al she can marry K she can't marry can marry so we don't know she goes ahead and she marries a k so she's the the the kid is we don't know what's going on she's a suff now she had a child and we don't know if the child is or not and and he married a woman okay it goes further than this case step number one is that we have a woman who who a suff suff and she married a Cen and then they had a child what is that child suff yeah he's a suff h and he married he got married oh soar calls it a it's not really suff suff it's a it's a once removed suff it's not a double suff we're going to see it's it's it's in the category of so says like this again she we don't know what happened to her we don't know if she's divorce or an Alman she marries a Cen and they have a child so the child is a suff it's based on her suff it's really one if she's a if she wasn't allowed to marry so the kid is if she was allow it's really one but it's one it's one removed and it says like this so this kid who's a gets married not his mother another generation later and she's an Al she's because maybe she married a who's the we have three right and it says here just to see the in this CA in the this chart who's the most M all in the bottom what does he say he says if I can marry the daughter I can marry it comes to exclude this case is why because you can't marry the daughters you can't marry but those who do argue this not the AL of this suff guy is M to marry after the suff guy dies we should have done a better chart a longer chart but okay busy with other stuff he's uh working on the kushan book Etc so I'm going to see I think he's up the whole night tonight just working on that book does anybody like that book does anybody use the book you do okay a couple okay good SE what's your name again I know you okay it's not your first time okay you hear what's going on here because they hold she's m to marry a because the kid is a kid of a suff woman and it's his wife that married a suff kid from a suff woman so it's like removed okay so we learned let's go says in the mishna that like a m and a nen could marry each other but what about a suff a and a are not on a married say remember this is Ra's talking is that a canot marry again that we don't know who his father is cannot marry a aru yeah throughout constantly argue here's another case r says that a suff cannot marry V and says what are you talking about it says in our first Miss in our par that meaning rash explains those who are not the all the people in the Mna you're saying that a canot marry a could marry say the problem now that you know what R says R says a suff cannot marry and says could marry says I have a problem contradiction and the only way out of this contradiction is that we're going to flip the names you have a woman who accepted from in other words she's just they didn't do a yet and suddenly sh she's pregnant what are you thinking why can't oh that that's what I wanted somebody to ask thank you and that's one of the in the he's say why do you have to assume the worst maybe it's the okay you're right but maybe it's not the whole thing about going the father's house yeah right says says it's V SOA R is saying R is saying that even though this kid is auki he's a m this this kid okay she's muis do you know for a fact he's a m no way so what category is he really he's a suff he calls him a m but he's a suff and RF says that this kid can marry Zer that means that a can marry a we said ra cannot marry a all of a sudden over here says could marry he says cannot marry a what's going on it's the flip so one way out of it is to say that we have to actually switch the names around what between R and regarding the first we had us in our screams what do you mean say not like that and then we have another between the two of them ra a pregnant AR is the kid could he marry a or not it's the same is twice they ask who the father is yeah yeah we're going to see that also if we're going to say only at the end of the day most of the world is M she's not engaged so most of the world is M she's just auki the kid is just AI we don't know who the father is but doesn't mean that there's a great reason to believe that the kid is a m in a case where she's engaged and she's pregnant the entire world besides maybe he'll admit that the kid is it makes a lot of sense huh oh thank you it's off okay I don't see it on my screen but okay something changed there that was your that there's a good reason to believe that the kid is a kosher kid they did a iser they shouldn't be together but he's not a mser you could you could you could be toil in the okay fine this far here and there there's uh in other words you made an assumption I saw a story once that there was the famous I think they call him every knows who that is he was like a talmid of the so he once he walked into a city and a woman who was in auna for many years she mistook him for her husband and she comes running over him with a stick and she starts beating him where the where were you all these years how dare you she beating him and they had explained there no this is not your husband they proved it okay the point and then he gave her he said listen you didn't hit me you hit your husband he deserved it he's a bad guy okay fine like your intent was to hit your husband your husband fine the point is that sometimes we rush to make assumptions we think we understand we think we know and then we we we come and we uh we we we blame things that don't exist so that's similar to over here so says you assumed that when he says he's a M's m m and a okay he didn't mean that he's allowed to marry that theic kid from this pregnant engaged woman is M to Marry m that's not what he meant she said because we don't know what's going on here now he just he can't love and says the same exact thing he's and they're saying the same exact thing what's so attempt number one is to say no meant to say that we say we we say be quiet when it comes to you can't you can't be Qui if you can't be part of of course he can't be a so this is the final attempt that we say listen Mr what happened was imagine a couple gets engaged all of a sudden the kala gets pregnant and then she gives birth and then the father guy he dies so the kid that she gives birth to says wait a minute that's my father I'm entitled to to yusha and we tell him no we don't know who your father is it's a very sad situation so who says he's your father we don't know it's very possible that he's not your father your father's and your M you get zero but we don't know who the fathers why should he have a she he grabbed onto the so now he's kind of thing so nevertheless we take it away from him a woman not believe that oh so we're going to see in a second yeah that's that's what he is asking we check by the mother and she's believed we already learned this once she's she's pregnant and we ask her who's the father and she says in other words she's believed she's not believed that she's believed so why do we have to repeat it again that's only a woman who's who who suddenly pregnant she wasn't engaged before she's a who got pregnant talking about engaged girl that the whole world is also to her maybe she shouldn't be believed she's believed that ansers your question she's believed she says I don't know then we can't assume anything so let me just show you real quickly so till this very day there's a whole bunch of people in that claim to be Kim Kim is a nation that came to and throughout CH there's a question whether or not they're legitimate G do they do it sincerely or they're fakers they certainly got Gus they had gas and later on in history they did have Zar and everything else so I think it was D maybe even just said you know forget it they're done till this very day see here pictures they have this is them they have they dob P the big into theb P people people from will go up there it's a whole scene it's a very interesting stuff to see so and they they tell you they're the real we're the fake the whole thing okay so ausi very interesting it says over here like five lines from the bottom one should I marry another what could be the reason for this if they have the same exact status I'm a you're a why can't we get married I don't understand a that marries a g and they have children what are the children G and they get married to other G and the other G and more G and more 10 generations of pure G breeds okay they're all in the NBA they're all Mish you know one after another there G 10 Generations that's it no more M after 10 Generations 10 Generations will allow it but after 10 Generations not why but is the pure G the answer is because other Jews know and see the Mar m what's going on there how's a Jew Nobody Knows the history who in this room could go back 10 Generations very few people could say yeah I could also go back 10 generation I probably we have whatever most people don't it stops three four generation finished so imagine them they they see generation upon generation these guys are learning in all the bestas the r everything whole thing and all of a sudden of my son it's 100% legal but that's it a 10 10 Generations so says the the same problem with ausi cusi andus after so many generations it's going to cause issues no more they can't marry each other says G what's your logic it may be four generations until the the thear leaves him what's the connection you have a who's 10 Generations in everybody forgot everything nobody knows anything they don't know that he's a g and he's marrying a a famous new mzes so you can't do it oh thank you so is a big problem because people are going to say that he's marrying but over here the two are on the same exact level and why would anybody confuse anything whatever this cus is that c is what say oh this cus is a Jew and she's not so doesn't make any sense the reason is came from he said oh hold on yeah I'll show this later I hope you didn't see it oh here so rishal holds RAR holds like Rish who who holds like that's the top line I did okay it's not so clear later I'm going to say that RAR holds both first say here Bo you see this this is a original piece of art from today uh cus is getting bit by a lion that's exactly what happened what no arise is with Al lion G that the story was that the Lions came and threatened them so they became G so it's not a sincere GIS they were forced you see he threw Z out because a lion a lion uh bit him okay that says they're not at all so comes out like this the kid is a m so what happens if the mother is Aus the mother again ausi is a guy and a guy that has relations with the the Jew we hold what the kid is a m according to that the kid is M so think about it for a second if the mother is ausi what's the kid a guy if the father's ausi yeah the father's ausi and he marries into Isel what's the kid a Jew uh a Mamer not Jew a mser Jewish mser yeah we're talking about Accord to R here I'm talking in River so comes out a very big Naina you hear the problem you could have in the cusi yeah in the that's not music yeah in this congregation called Kim we have kids that are MIM because they're Jewish we have kids that are G you hear the problem it's a big problem some are because their mother is auses some are Jewish because the father is ausi and he had relations with a Jew so if ausis Lady marries a Jewish man the kid is a m the kid is a GU and if a a cusy man marries a Jewish lady then the kid is a mser because rubika holds that a GU who marries the kid is a mser and according to so we take these twoos and we put them together we have this major issue that's WHYY should not marry ay because one Cy could be a mser the other one could be a could a marry a Mamer could a could a mser marry a no a mser is a Jew problematic for him to get married but he cannot marry a guy so if we have a bunch of Kim everywhere some of and some of we have major problems therefore he says says should not marry but wait a minute your whole chart over here where is that chart this one you said that we have a problem cannot hold why how do you know that if a or slave relations with they made her not he's a true you need a to tell me that the be creates a the kid is a m forget about pule here so now you go to my chart over here the second part of the chart where it says on the bottom hold not and that we prove doesn't hold but if himself holds himself hold then everything is good that what oh like middle of the the same that we had before himself that holds both really that if has relations with a here so here's the case very simple case this is the first missas if two brothers two bald Brothers shim and Ruben and shim shim has a daughter that got married to her uncle which was very very common in those days and then the uncle married a second wife a five toown and then he goes bye-bye so what's the the is the first of is that there's no at all why since a father can have relations with his daughter obviously so the co-wife also is pot from both of them one is one of them is argue say is out of the picture forget the but there should be for the should be for the five toown so now that we know that it's not so important for the but he says in order to create a m there has to be ofus now who marries Isel there's no Kus it's it's it's is a is but not so says the whatever rash goes into that according to the it would be a big problem that uh according to okay fine oh this we just got three lines for free unless you have to remember for the test this the reason why a can't Mar there's three in there the are not true they were scared of the lions with the and the that mixed up with them were not they were to begin with the took this for their their backyard he took the Thorns of the nation so we're going to have to see tomorrow exactly three here we'll just read it very keep because running out of time that are true that mixed in with them were good he takes the same word and the same Manar is not but it means the best of the [Music] best they would do and say that doesn't need we'll see B tomorrow R have a wonderful day that