Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 65 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning as we had been doing in the last few days we're going to start off the she with uh of all those injured in this terrible War all those who are captured for the safe return home all those who lost their lives for Bo we're going to ease in slowly into the emails today's da is so uh we'll do a little videos pictures and emails that IA to the shear slowly we'll use our way in hi Rabbi I'm Persian and my mother's side is from mashad a city in Iran they lived a number of years 100 if I'm not mistaken under the guise of being Muslims by force conversion at early age 78 years old they would make the when the Muslims come and ask for the daughters they would say she's already already spoken for they buy halal meat at the market and give it to their dogs to show they're part of the kahal but not in hiding they all practiced and taught Judaism regards Alan Kahan over herei we have a picture of soldiers gathered learning the da because it's all about the Y is the rabbi okay how come there was no Shear today there was a Shear uh it was put out very late we had serious technical difficulties first of all my laptop was submerged in water so that went F had her set up a new laptop and uh everything that goes with it it's not still not 100 then we had a major issue with the camera since I was doing it myself I took a a short test run and it looked good then after she was over I saw that it was stopped down at least two stops or stopped up I should say anyway uh the kids are if you're a photographer you know what I'm talking about uh was a mistake terrible mistake so B today she should be a little bit earlier than yesterday today's tomorrow I don't know about everybody I take a look at this video for a second these are another group of learning a video of them learning beautiful happens to be that um I was once on since I'm a pilot so I'm fascinated by you know f-16s f-15s and I got my way once onto an Israeli Airbase it was a very difficult to get on and uh you know pulled a little few strings and I was able to watch them and the whole Tower and everything but one thing I was fascinated by is that and this is years ago this is at least 10 15 years ago uh I walked into B medish the guy was showing me B medish and there were dozens of just learning learning the D actually for the first time my life so I'm saying it's not just because they're under the and you know art scroll I think just printed five ,000 small k for the and they said they need many more for the first time in my life I was able to complete a whole year of M thanks to you give she every single day now which will be here very soon from London since the beginning of sim # for mdy yes I met you I know you have your license plate Ellie for mdy I think I have one in my house as well thanks to the and now Feinstein talks about mikra in our days I'm sure that one of the mitvah that are pretty if you want to call them is the Mitzvah theab of everybody to have a set in the next four weeks in the 30-day period it will last already forever because it's not you have do it worldwide MD headquarter Coffee corner and beverages the art of the month for all the that come from supporting once again the shabbaton we're Switching gears it's going to be geared more as a shabbaton of and we're going to tone down the festivity part it's going to be more of a Kum situation more of the speeches The Unbelievable speeches are going to be geared towards and and that sort of thing so Join one join all please do it sooner rather than later if you really think of coming so sign up so we have more of an idea of what to expect here we go we're holding three lines from the bottom of we we're discussing a guys your mayor the interesting story where a person married two women earlier in his life he married a woman and he had two daughters from her team one and then he married another woman and he had two daughters from her team two and he said I married my older daughter that was case one I married my older daughter that could be the oldest of the oldest the oldest of the youngest the youngest of the oldest which is older than old the youngest okay says that they're all user to everybody because it could be any one of them besides the youngest of the young and says only the oldest the old is user and none of the other ones so says and and that's chart one and two one and two when there's only one group of girls and he says the older then obviously he means the oldest and when he says the youngest he means the youngest meaning if there's three girls he never meant the middle one and because the middle one is never called the oldest and never called the youngest you call her by her name doesn't like this so much let me see if I can put this over here for a second okay according to what you're telling me then why why are you saying that all the girls are AER the middle one he never refers to as so she should always be M says right we're talking about there only two an older one a younger one otherwise rash says it should have said because if there was really a middle one three girls older youngest and middle then it should have said so in the mishna the Mish should have spoken about it says one if there's two groups team one team two the middle one of the oldest group since the middle one of the oldest group she's older than all the younger ones from the younger group from Team two so certainly there should be some sort of suff with her M it doesn't say her says G so therefore maybe when it comes to the second group as well maybe just like the first group we know that there's a suff in her and we don't say it so too by the second group when it comes to group one that's P that the middle one is but when it comes to group two since it's not so because a group two is similar to what we said it's only one group if there's two groups the middle one is certainly could be called an adult the or the big one compared to group number two to team two but when it comes to group two that's where we should have said it the first group it's POS that she would be aome but group two you should have said it if this if if she's there you should have spoken about it obviously we're only talking about two girls older and Young when a person that's the case we had yesterday a person says I don't like you that much I don't want to have anything to do with you until P but he used the the face of and we what's that it's there's only the first day of p and last day of P the middle days should be like a middle girl nevertheless why because there's girls that are younger than the middle one there's days that are younger or later than the middle days so you see there is on the middle know you didn't understand it's not about theing the middle the the what the middle day is called the question is what do how do people use the word before until means when it's gone that it leaves that's the shil over there all right new I am your husband I have no idea what you're talking about who so this we have this chart three a person with his mouth with his saying he could impose him on himself a piece of meat and say this piece of meat is also on me this is for me it's not for the rest of the world it's for so too a person could say to himself I'm also on that woman she's my wife wife she laughs at him she never met him before so she's m to his son she's m to all his C but he is also to her mother to her daughter to all the C that she has why cuz he imposed on himself a iser so it's very interesting because I think we speak a lot about we constantly say this is a that's a that's I don't know if people are maybe they're they're kind of not sick of it but it's like they keep on beating it into you this is awesome maybe it's K once in a while to talk about what's what's it says right death and life is in the hand of your tongue so you have to also understand that the tongue when a person says I'm AER you are my wife you created a world you create a world for yourself a world of isra a person with his mouth can create life he can create a whole new being a good word to to a young child tell a kid you're an amazing kid you're such a smart kid you never know how far that goes what goes into a person's head and what sticks a nice word to your spouse a nice word to to your grandchild to your child to your talid to a friend you tell your friend and SCH hey I'm so impressed with your kid look how beautifully he D you never know what kind of that person just got from your one line especially in in our days right now when people are down and and everybody needs one good line you could M build a person with your mouth so he what about the reverse she says I am married to [Music] you you I'm married to you there's a a guy on a train by himself and all of a sudden a woman comes into the train and she sits down next to him she says if you don't give me all your money I'm going to tell the police that he did something really bad to me so he thought real quickly and he says huh what are you saying like I can't hear you write it down please so she wrote down she says if you don't give me your money so he says Ah now I have a piece of paper that says that you threaten me over here she's saying you marry me he says I don't know what you're talking about I don't know you now over here it's a little bit worse than the other case and there's a little bit of more here she is essentially saying that she's also to the whole world by her saying that she's married to him it's not just she's not just answering herself on his relatives she's asking herself to the entire world she's exclaiming that she's an a is he has nothing to do with this so he's all reles now we're talking about very very similar cases thear is just going to say why you need each case he says I'm engaged to you and she says no you are engaged to my daughter now if it was a father who says you're engaged to my daughter M he has all the right but she doesn't have any right who also she he is also in the mother just like the first case and the mother is in his same case as the first who he is m in her daughter's CRA because the mother has no right to say that that she married off the daughter or that she's married that the husband did it she has no right to testify about her younger daughter again the mother has no right to say that she the the younger daughter is married what if the reverse he says I got engaged to your daughter and she says no you got to to me who since on the younger one all the younger ones crav if she has CRA that are not related to the mother and the younger one has nothing to do with him so she's m and his relatives who she can marry his son for instance he has nothing to do with the mother we have four cases that very similar this the idea is the same person imposed on himself in so what do you need four cases that he imposed on himself do so we don't care what he says she just ask herself in the entire world she can never get married we should really trust her what she says and therefore he's also even that another case I would think that the father is believed and trusted trusted that he married off his daughter so they took that idea and they moved it further and said that a mother could also she say oh my husband married her off would never believe the mother says the so what I need the fourth case they all match each other so you're right the fourth case we really don't need it already says that he madesh she says you you got engaged to my daughter and then the fourth case is I say I got engaged to your daughter we don't believe okay fine it's just to match the case of when the mother says you got engaged to my daughter it's they set a general rule r says we force the husband to give a get in this case what is the case the is going to discuss and says we ask nicely what case I got engaged to you and she says I have no idea who you are just to be safe on the safe side give her a get we ask him nicely or we force him say if she denies it why would you give her a get she's not a divorce she doesn't know this guy we're talking about the second case that what she says you got engaged to me I'm your wife and he says I don't know who you are okay so what does he have to lose to so he's a divorce who cares so he asked him nicely why would you force him you're rooting it for me now I can't marry your daughter I can't marry any of her relatives or mother rather we have to say RA are talking about the same thing they just add to each other in a case where a woman was silly and she said I'm married to you she made a big mistake huge mistake she can never marry anybody in the world so we asked this guy listen she's I don't know what happened there do her a favor give her a get but here's what's a terrible thing if he gave a get on his own accord not if they asked if he gave a get because he felt like it now we have reason to believe that some truth to it why would he give her a get he knows that she's crazy she made up a story she didn't make up a story soting Cuba therefore it's as if he admitted that he's married her and he gave her a divorce and if he gave her a divorce has to give her a Cuba which cost $45,000 maybe it was $4 $500 I don't remember anymore some say two things we force him and we ask him nicely asking isn't that a contradiction says the well we ask him nicely is to give a get and if however if he gave the get by himself then we force him to [Music] give very very nice so the fact you have to have what's the is the that the ad are there so nobody could lie and say this didn't happen did happen or the ad actually creat K without ad there's no let say other how do you get engaged how do you get married he in how did he get married if you need to create a marriage and you don't have a it's finished but if the are just there not to lie so let's see what if you only have one Aid one nothing what what if they both agree and this's one one Aid so if this zero Aid we don't have a it's nothing no but if there's one Aid and they both agree that they're married to each other is that enough says the in sometimes re yud would say yes somebody say no he would keep on going back and forth he wasn't sure himself there's a just means he he did he was weak by him he didn't no he didn't have good there's a famous story about schl it's brought down in a number of places schl had a daughter that he asked his the stargazers and they said she's going to marry a very poor person didn't like it so he hid her in a tower and he used to send the eagle to feed her she had no connection with human beings and until one day a poor person I knowwhere to live so he HD himself in a carcass of some animal a very big eagle came lifted up the carcass brought it to the Tower and he hops out of there and they decide to get married who are the excuse me so um so there's a sa called B and he says that it doesn't make any sense the story and he proves because if so every wedding has M every wedding has sitting there so you never need a him and another thing says how would go ahead and torture his daughter like that seclude her from society for such a long time makes no sense and therefore he comes to the conclusion that the story is made up it's a Christian story based on Christianity it's not really uh story okay over here the says what do we do you need at least one Aid don't work [Music] oh says if you use one Aid it's zero even if the husband and wife agreed that there was a he tells a woman I married to you and she says I don't know you the question is what are we talking about how many two 1 Z what if two witnesses testify that the married of course she should beer in his relatives and zero how could he make himself on Earth must one I got engaged to you in front of two these two are gone they went to another country you never know maybe I myself because there's a war or something maybe I'll show up one day in Med yet just yesterday there was um a ship an American ship that came to K and they evacuated many many Americans I think they said it was for free just get on the ship they'll bring you to to Greece or whatever and uh you just have to pay the government at a different time whatever it was it happens that people go to you never know says other words the he's basing the disappear person divor wife wife and then they had they they slept in the same room in hotel we still hold that we must say that they had relations and the relations was this a concept the person doesn't make his so must be if he's with her first we established that he was with her and it was first men say was the case if we have two testify then how this of course no zero so's the must our case is one and they both agre what okay if this one a how explain the end of it and they agree they both agree that if the divorce happened from just the AIS right this two two stages a gave her a ring and they wait for a year let's say so if she got divorced from why does she not need a get he doesn't know her that well to be that they had relations but is talking about and he's believed what's the difference if they got divorced from does testifying that this is what happened all but they saw that they secluded themselves but they didn't see an act of relations of the same testify that automatically that means that I'm sorry the last word is you don't say that the same are the that the Aden that saw them seclude themselves basically are telling us it was be you they have to see the be and he did it and therefore she needs a g however everybody agrees that if she got divorced just from the engagement fromis you don't say that the same that's a that they had a relation why did they go to the same hotel room they want to save money it's cheaper I don't know what but because they don't know each other so well then we don't have to assume that they had relations in the name again if there one a testifying that these two this couple are married or they're engaged we don't have to worry about it's nothing even if the couple admits to it this great said that you don't have to worry about it who is this great the first last he's a great B he said you don't have to worry about this and some say that is the one that said not that his b but he himself said this the person with one a you don't have to worry about it and who's this great re R's rebi the author of the mishna The of all mnas he's the one that said if there one a you don't have to worry about it unbelievable story crazy story there are three people that show up at Ellis Island and they're holding a suitcase all three of them crazy situation she says there's a one woman to I love this the guy looks at at the two he says she's my wife he's my slave I he's not my friend he's my slave and you see the suitcase I own it the other guy says are you crazy he's my slave she's my wife and this is my suitcase reminds me of the famous story there was a guy an impostor he bought a bunch of police clothing unfortunately this is what happened at the initial stages of the terror attack a lot of them I heard that by the concert over there they dressed up like Israeli policemen and they made a roadblock so everybody stopped for them and then they went and they shot everybody in the cars that was one of the things so an impastor is a terrible thing a cop sees an impastor wearing police clothing has the New York police cap the whole thing he looks like a cop so you're as as they're walking through the street them Pastor start screaming help me help me this imp Pastor just arrested me so people gather people don't know what to do they look identical they both have a holster with a gun and handcuffs he's saying that he's in a pastor what do you do what you do is you see who has the key to the handcuffs you have the key to the handcuffs you're in charge the other guys imp pastor and the is when you have the key to thear you're in charge when you give into your tus and do another out no then who's in charge you start scream I'm in charge no you're not in charge if you're not in control then you're not in charge when you're in control then you're in charge when the mat is rough I'm talking about rough you sit down and you learn like those you imagine thinking about their families thinking about the missiles coming and going and their friends got killed and shot and wounded he open up a gar then who's in charge you're in charge so the story one Ru says shim is my slave she's my wife the Su belongs to me shim says Ruben's my slave she's my wife and what does she say these two guys they're my slaves now I don't know some marriages it seems like the husband's a slave some marriages it seems like the wife is a slave terrible things right but this is what she say these are my slaves maybe it's code for a husband I don't know so the is she needs two G why they're saying they admit that she's the wife and they're admitting that they own the suitcase each one says I own the suitcase so therefore if they give her a gift then she's entitled to a and she they have a suitcase pay off from the suitcase which is a big that's the big says what is the case if we're talking about that each man has to testify that he's married to this woman how could she claim that she's not married to them there's two ad that say she is married to at least one of them oh you see 18 is good enough says so you're talking about 18 says she's married to Ru one says she's married to shim one against one is always zero when I want to allow her to marry into the world she doesn't need a get at all zero just watch she's claiming I want all the jewels all the treasures that are inside the SU oh for that first she needs to get divorce from both of these men by that they are saying in essence that they owe her Al and according to this goes ACC to that what that you could go and claim even for movable objects that's the big because whether is only from Real Estate or from movable object this goes like what about is he strong enough for or not you don't have to worry about it says you have to worry about it you get this from that but that just like money you need two so two by and if you have less than two it's zero but if you're gonna learn from if just like when it comes to M when a I'm just thinking to myself an incredible thing just happened that I recorded and I went back and I and I'm waiting waiting to travel now and I saw that this the memory in the card was finished my mistake again another mistake so I thought to myself okay now I have to redo the whole she and everybody's going to be really upset so it's only missing these few minutes and it could have been much worse that's why I'm I'm thinking to myself could have been much worse teaches me a lesson I go she wants no what are we talking about oh so if so just like by m if a person admits that he owes a person $100 he's 500 so too if they both admit that they're married to each other we should agree to that and you don't need when you owe money to somebody nobody nobody cares it doesn't hurt anybody but over here you you ruin it for the relatives but you saying that you're married to a certain person you you you ruin it for other people but for yourself that we already said establish you can make something on yourself you can't ruin it for other people says two brothers the sons they divided their inheritance but they want to know is it valid do two make the going to effect that they establish that there was a Kenyon here or the two ads that no no one should lie worried about liars they can't take it back but we're not Liars so we don't need to them but maybe no it doesn't go into effect without establish the fact this is not to establish a but against liar didn't we just say by K that without there's no K you need so the discusses this if we're going to learn one from the other it should go all the way so there's three cases here at least we're going to do two today says if 18 says you ate and you don't argue with him we trust and he proves it I'll prove it and other guy says no I did not Potter the reason why he's Potter because he argued on it you see like he's quiet believe to say other words we trust him that it's one more your fruit that's became and he's quiet if one says you're but you argue Potter then we don't believe that one is because he argued but if he was completely quiet believe have a wonderful day