Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 63 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good [Music] morning was still in a very terrible and therefore we're going to start out the year without emails but with a peric of tum yes I've seen literally hundreds of emails come in and people are concerned about my well-being I appreciate it I'm bash 100% but everybody in my family is 100% great everything is [Music] galic [Music] I do want to show you the very famous picture that's going around and it's the do never stops even under the rest you learn the it [Music] brings Jersey because the the last day thank you for thisor worldwide on his six yd headquarter coffe corner and Beverages and of the month that come from supporting we're holding today holding all the way in the bottom we have three that agree that a person could make a Kon on something that doesn't exist yet we just had yesterday who holds that if you have truma from something that's attached and you want to make it truma on something that's detached it works because it's and it works rebi who's rebi rebi the author of The mishna Otherwise Known ASI I'm just prefacing it because the gor later on talks about it for a moment says the says you should not give back a slave to his master seemingly we understand that after you release him he's already released he shouldn't give him back to his master Reb says no that can't be the meaning because then the Torah wouldn't call him an EV what does it mean he's a slave he's not a slave he's already released what's going on is that he says when I will purchase you in the future then you are released from now and and the Torah tells us is not allowed to let him use him as a slave but it's see you see this idea of re says works very familiar with this we had it yesterday a number of times in the m and the brought it you are to me after I become a after you become a after I am freed as a slave after you become free as a slave after your husband dies after your sister you sister one I'm married to you after you die I'm going to marry your sister that's what he tells the sister that he's not married to because he's not allowed to marry two sisters at once that's a woman whose husband died without children and now she's waiting to either do to her brother-in-law or to be Miss and a person comes along and says after you finish the whole procedure I want to get married to you why it's all these things argues and he says you could get engaged to a woman who's a slave now you could have get engaged to a woman who is a Goya and she's in the process of a g Gus why because he [Music] holds excuse me which is re [Music] so then why do we say imagine telling your wife by the way I got engaged to your sister just waiting for you to drop dead that's not a great recipe for Shalom so because of that we say that it doesn't work we don't want fighting or a woman tells her husband you know by the way you're not treating me so nicely so I went and I got engaged to another man he's just waiting for you to die again recipe for disaster says if so just said just because of a fight we don't yes we already enlisted rebi that was the first one about that we said that a person could say when I buy you then I'm going to release you so that's so we already mentioned rebi which happens to be the same person as what about if a woman says I make a that everything that I earn a you can't you can't use ain't because all of the woman's earnings go to the husband that was Tak because if she becomes captured he has to redeem her so there's a a give and take the husband is entitled to what she normally makes so therefore if a woman says you're not entitled it I made a NE against it we don't care about it it's against what said it goes straight to the husband he doesn't even have to be Mayer a husband has the ability to any nether that his wife makes in this case he doesn't even have to do it why because because it's not hers to make it all him says he should it why so there's a certain amount that we learned in the D that a woman makes and that's what the husband is entitled to what if she makes above and beyond what if she's a lawyer just that extra $100,000 I make a year that I'm making another against you you can't have anything to do with it so for that she he should make a far he should be made for his wife's NE say so rauna says what's going on is that she said oh so first of all re says that we're concerned about something that didn't happen in the world yet earnings that she didn't even earn yet and and she's mother her husband then he has no right to use those earnings but it didn't happen yet so you see says I'm concerned about something that didn't happen in the world so he should be in the list of the answer is because she was M something today that exists she was Mack her hands she said my hands are in other words whatever I earn with these hands the husband shouldn't have any to do with but it's something that exists right now and today say I have pull in the government I will talk for you I'll do protexia for you I will get something done for you I know you want to build a certain house you want to add another floor to your house whatever it is I'm going to speak to the government for you or he tells her will work for you as a daily laborer one day if he did what he said he's going to do mes she becomes mes now the question is how exactly does she become mes is it with the earnings the that he did in the future in other words he actually worked so for that with that work she became kesas or he gave her a PR right now and the fact that he has to work or talk to the government that's aai so now we're going to see in the if he doesn't fulfill his condition explains he had to give her one why so you see the chart chart number one we had this before or in other words when a person works when a person does something for someone is the person earning his pra as he goes along so let's say he says I am going to work for you for a day so as he works every time he every five minutes he G he gains a pra and now she owes him that pra if that's the case then he never gave her anything for Kush Because by the time he was doing the kushan at the end of the day she already owed him all this money throughout day and you cannot get married with a loone but if you hold excuse me so at the end when he gives her the kushin he gives it to her all together there's no loan so is going to prove that we have to hold that as you go along he owes her a therefore we must say that he gave her one PR all the way in the beginning and he gave it to her he said with this I'm doing the rest talking to the government working for you for a day that is only that's just a condition I'm not being madish with that as if I do something for a woman I can't use that for with the value that I gave you a right on a donkey I give you a uber ride a taxi ride I G let you ride in the wagon or on a ship M over here the famous Mya there was a guy that just got married and he took his wife on his wagon and suddenly the The Horse stopped so he whacked the horse he said go nothing whack the horse again nothing third time he whacks the horse the horse doesn't go so he jumps out of his wagon with a gun and kills the horse the wife the newly married wife is mortified she starts screaming what are you doing what are you doing he looks at her and he says that's number one strike one the that I already gave you a ride on the wagon or in the boat that's already a loan and you cannot be M with a loan that I will give you a ride on a donkey and that I'll give you a ride in the wagon excuse me m she you see that in the future works I'll work for you one dayes I'll give you a ride in a wagon maybe you say these cases talking about that initially he gave her PR and then he said I'll give you a ride he said no the words is the wording is with the value of the ride it's not with the value of the pruto and another a woman tells a man I'm scared of the dark sit here with me keep me company and with that and I'll become to you I heard you're a good comedian give me a few jokes and with that I'll become to you by the you do all these summer Sals dance in front of me I say or create this kind of thing for me Shaman we evaluate it and that's a key word here Shaman if everything he did if typically speaking for a commedian for you charge $1,000 a night and he gave you 25 minutes if that is a so you'll say oh over here you [Music] in the future with something that we discussed with comedy it works the future so say maybe no maybe he gave her plus comedy so why do you have to evaluate the comedy from the fact that you're evaluating you see that you mi kades with the comedy not with theut isn't this a so the T of the holds that all the money of the comedy happens all the way at the end not like we thought that it works as the comedy goes on every minute into the comedy there's another PR another PR another PR and by the time he gets the end there's nothing for him to be to be mades over here he holds in the the reason why she's mes is because this TT of actually holds he gets nothing throughout the whole comedy show all the way at the end when he wants to be M boom that's when he gets all the money our is forced I'm forced to say in they gave a pro in the beginning because there's no pro at then everything is alone what forced and to say such why because to say that it doesn't even say in the Mish that he gave her and he also said I'm going to give you something else that's he gave her why would like had a problem with the why does the use the lotion of uncondition just say a straight out case where a person says the value of what I'm going to do [Music] with the money with the value that I'm going to speak to the government for you why does it have to say she gave her plus he made a condition he gave her something gave her Pro Plus he made a condition says let's get engaged on condition that the father agrees to this K talking about adults here you don't need perhaps you don't need their their r at all you don't need their they they they don't have to agree to the now what happens to be just the and this is get to us in our days if a b let's say thinks to himself that it's unhealthy for him to be unmarried his father wants him to wait another two years to go to college to finish yes whatever the thing is but he himself feels that R is not good for him it's really not good for him not to be married so the poim said that over here you don't need the father's consent you just get married why because if a father says Be You don't have to listen to the father so here the father's basically saying you should be over you shouldn't and for your it's not a good thing not to be married so you don't have to listen to your father but we're talking about just a typical tonight let's get engaged on condition that our parents agreed to this they're happy with this if the father is happy with it if not not what if he didn't have a chance to meet it's a good because the father didn't disagree we're going to see the interesting means if himself died now we have to be concerned he died without children even by a even just by engagement of the time of the just giving a ring so are they engaged or not engaged is she a or not so we have to teach the father to say I don't agree with the even though the is dead because when he found out from it he found out about it on the spot he says I don't agree with it the Aisa never happen happened they were never engaged and therefore she's not a she doesn't even need what does it mean if it means that he literally said yes oh so let me just show you this uh chart over here chart number two which has to go like literally five minutes earlier we're talking about the the difference between the BR and the Mish okay and here's the idea okay so roshi did a picture here chart four depicting uh I'll just call this look at his shoelaces look at his I guess that's what it was does Father agree to this so the says what exactly is the case so we have basically four cases in the mishna you see the chart chart number five so there's two parts of the father agreed than this K the father didn't agree there no there's also another case that the father died and if the father dies then there's a there's a case where the himself so then you have to teach the father to say I don't want so what does it mean if the green case all way in the beginning means that he has to say yes how does it fit in the next case if the father dies if the father has to physically say the word yes so in the the case the blue case the center case where the father dies he didn't say yes so we can't say that it's talking about a case where the father has to say yes because when he dies he doesn't say yes so we must say that the first case means he's quiet doesn't oppose to it then let's go all the way to the last last case the purple case in a case where the son dies other words the dies we teach the father to say that he never agreed to this and therefore his daughter won't be eligible for we talking about a case where all the father has to do is be quiet what good is it when we teach the father to say something it was already too late he was quiet when he heard about it so now the G says like this we got to change things up a little bit the first cases of the Mish are talking about when the father was quiet first case the Mish quiet second case is the m when it says the father died and the died we're talking about that he said on condition that the father doesn't oppose Raa as thear how's that possible you telling me two different cases without even explaining without even going into detail you're telling me the first case is the mishna the green talking about the father has to be quiet the second case the father shouldn't oppose that's very different you're going according to but you're explaining it differently now what we could have done is we could have said we could have explained that the first case he was quiet when he heard about it and the sa he never made a he never he never opposed to it forever we could do that but it's Accord it's too differentand according to Mand one M he was quiet when he heard about according to another Mand he never made a forever but that's two different M we prefer to say it's going according to one and two different cases yeah okay it's better we see from it's better to to say the m is talking about two different cases even though it doesn't say it say the whole goes according to one t so this is in all it's better to say that Mish goes according to one to very different cases rather than saying that it's two different Mand but will make the case the same we could say it's one one case what do you mean by this they say on condition the father agrees this this could fit into all the cases what it means is as long as the father doesn't oppose for 30 days so going from the beginning to end we just stick in up he has up until 30 days and if that's the case that case fits in beautifully in all four cases let's say he didn't oppose within 30 days boom it's he poed the 30 days it's not if he died within 30 days if the dies we have to teach the father to oppose says the mishna oh we just turned to the for all those in need of I believe this is the last day for the Turning of if I'm not mistaken and by inovations in honor of my uncle prman and as for a year filled with ma for all of the MD family says the G says the father reminds me the old there's 85-year old man who was found on the street sitting on a bench crying that's that's said what's the matter why you crying he says I found the best of my life I just got married last night to a 30-year-old woman such a b such a special woman new so it's amazing you're 85 years old you have a 30-y old what's what's about see yeah but I can't remember where I live you have a a father who is so excited he made a his daughter finally with the whole crisis he makes his daughter and he says I don't know who the is reminds me of a person went into and he says my son wants to get engaged this in this girl from this in this town what do you think so Samus looks at him he says oh definitely get engaged when he left said we never heard you use this language what does that mean so he say I'll tell you just yesterday a man came in here a different person comes in here and he says I want a sh from my daughter the problem is everybody in my city hates me besides one person so I said don't worry about it today when the father of the came in here he told me about the to this exact girl and I asked him did you look into the girl he said yeah I asked one person one friend in the city and he said unbelievable things I realized if he punked got that one person that likes him obviously says the some guy comes around says oh I'm the you forgot I'm now you see this a what if the father recognizes he doesn't remember who but he knows this guy is way too tall compared to the I remember the was like this he's like that I mean he's risking it here that's why he's believed two people come and they both say we are the ones they both should give a get but if they want one gives a get and one gets married to her says the what we allow here if the guy comes along and he says it's me we believe him only that has to divorce her but not to marry her didn't get why a person doesn't sin and he has nothing to gain over here when he says I have to divor I'm the but I'll divorce her so he gained Zero from it why would he do that maybe he can't marry her maybe he's a bad guy the father will remember if this is the and from the that he's not obviously he's the guy so he can marry her agrees he says when he says I became engaged and I don't remember she says she says I became engaged and I don't remember to who so in that case we don't trust her because maybe she wants to marry this guy he's a great guy and she's like says not like that it says one is believed to give a get and one is believed to marry her how come over there in this case she's not believed no it's very different when two people come along so one gives a get and one could marry her because each one the guy that is allowed to marry her says wait a minute what if the father recognizes the second guy the father recognizes the second guy I'll be in big trouble I'll look like a fool so when there two people person says so we want to bring a r i engage my daughter and I don't remember to I'm the one he's believed even to marry her and if somebody got married and somebody else came and he says wait a minute you're married her I'm the one I'm the we don't trust him but when a woman herself says I'm the one that get engaged and I don't remember that a woman is not believed because she might like him and she might be over with him and therefore she's not believed says the when a father says I engage my daughter off I was to somebody from somebody and then based on that testimony can we kill a second person somebody came and had a relationship with his daughter she's already engaged anybody has relations is but based on what on on a father who says I accepted says yes he could based on the father's testimony and says rasi says yes and R says no we only believe the father we don't trust him to kill people here it says in the P this is chart six I gave my he has the right to say I gave my daughter to somebody but that's only not to kill people based on that says the not true says we trust the father for every everything even for capital punishment says but I agree that when it's the girl herself who says I accepted K we don't kill based on that this happens to be my father's probably my father's favorite catchphrase when I was a kid he used to use it all the time it's to me it meant it's doesn't make any sense the literal translation is it breaks roofs and that's what it means over here also it doesn't make any sense you would think rasi on himself rasi says I agree that by when the girlself says I became engaged you don't kill but when the father says I my daughter's engaged you do kill it's said you say that it's it doesn't make sense that what when it's so weak when a father testifies I accepted K but I forgot to who somebody comes along and says it's me we trust that guy in other words the father's testimony is on the weak very weak and nevertheless you kill capital punishment based on the father's testimony so the father's testimony is weak somebody when he says I don't know who my daughter got engaged to anybody can come along and say it's me hi and we trust him with that weakness we still kill somebody when a woman is we say she is engaged when she says I am engaged to somebody we believe her so somebody else comes along and says hey I'm the guy in he can't he can't get married and it didn't just cycl so when her testimony is much stronger than the father's certainly we should believe her and we should kill based on her testimony so say that's not a good it's not true a father is much more than a than a girl we don't even trust her at all it's not true we trust him and we don't trust her therefore it makes more sense since we trust him there's only Mis based on his testimony no Mis hurt us I shouldn't say there's no no on her we trust the father more than we trust her and therefore there's on his testimony both cases whether the father testifies I engage my daughter got engaged with me I accept the K or whether she does there's no if a father testifies that his son is 9 years old and his daughter is 3 years old because a nine-year-old and a three-year-old are and therefore you based on their age so the M says we trust the father only that the person would have to bring a carbon but not for any and we prove by the way in Yemen there's a Min over there not to count years so people don't really know all they are sometimes a kid could be mitvah when he's 10 years old he I bumped into he said how old are you he said I'm 50 but it's possible that I'm 60 and maybe even 70 in other words they don't even they don't count so need the testimony of the father no he's 13 He she's three this daughter is 12 years old if the kid is macked or something l in here you see check out chart seven what age group is this person is a person 20 years old do you have to give 20 sah if the father says no he's a five sixy old so you have to give 20 Sal if he's less than five years old then less you only give five sah again so is a person says that person's value on me I'm going to give the this depends how old he is we trust the father how old a kid is but not for punishments and you see exactly said that we trust the father for but not for I'm sorry for and not for have a wonderful [Music] day