Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 58 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning we're still in mid of a very very difficult timea of War of the unknown um I saw a picture today I should have shown the picture of bar how big tadic from the back Forman fman whatman fman same thing no fman so met him on a Bas somewhere and sent me a picture maybe tomorrow um with ding I just heard of somebody that I know my daughter-in-law's uh relative was injured mat is not not good not good so we're going to say to [Music] for [Music] your [Music] for [Music] today's learning is being sponsored by MD for all the for all the and all the have people should have 2500 people captured we don't know they should have have the the amount of just went up to what 800 and and you and you times that by the families by the thousands of and Al and and then just uh people that lost their adult children and just the is unimaginable the spor by the and Families New Jersey because are the best that our family should be blessed with health for all the art of the mon sponsored that come from supporting Bo not making any announcements better any hotels any shaton but should [Music] join for yourself for 21.com to get your free it's not too late it's only Monday we have a full week ahead to do pares bous Tuesday today's Tuesday day I'm losing it I'm losing it I know but this is he what he means to say is this year is coming out Tuesday we have people that just confused here today's Tuesday say say aloud today is Tuesday yes holding in the middle of a if somebody was mades a woman he gave K and happened to be was an animal that he shed it in the in the the one above me right now it's not important to see it he took a regular anal that's not a so we finished off yesterday or something it's this morning that there's three and thear is going to prove that in the three stages here's the you don't really see that the thing on the right is the is next to that tall building which is the and to the right of it is the you can see on the bottom the that's the okay that's all carbas Etc so theor says like this we want to prove in three steps that it's also to a regular animal private animal that's not a carbon it's not a o not a it's not a nothing you just brought your your your little sheep into the B of it it's awesome to do that we also want to prove that if you do so it would be awesome for you to eat it we're also going to prove that if you try to use that animal for anything to purchase something or to be woman it doesn't work it's says the G vainly so basically we finished off saying that a big I don't think a lot of people knew this that in the time of the midbar the 40 years the was in the midbar was user to eat B was user to eat meat unless you brought the animal as a carbon you sh it as a and then you get to eat or if you had an animal that had a m then you could you could sh it and then the t comes and says you're going to come to and is going to be too far for you to get there so then I allow you to eat I allow you to eat so says we're holding like let's say eight lines from the bottom we just said that the what was also in the midbar was regular animals but a animal that had a m was m so perhaps this whole p is only coming to say that once you come then you're not allowed you're allowed to a regular animal that's T doesn't have a and you're if it's not a how do you know that it's also anyways you were in the midbar so maybe you're to in and you're not over anything says it's the same category as the other as what we're talking about same same now this is a different category a deer venison is not something you ever brought in the it was never in the so it's a different category so how do I know that if you take a deer you bring it in the it's also and all these things that we're talking about eating [Music] because at the end of the day it's the same idea you it you take a knife and you it also another type of completely different category that's why we have the three okay so maybe the Tor is telling you don't sh but if you did sh after the fact you're allowed to eat it [Music] says when you're far away from you're over there anything that you including a bird you Birds over there but you're not the bird's there's a um a guy asked the r are you allowed to smoke while you're learning so the r said no so he went back to tell his friend he said the r said you're not all to he said no it all it's all how you asked the RO because I was just asking a rough questions I thought about I was telling meny about it I I have to go back to ask him because if you ask it in a different Sur the way you ask it so let me tell you how you do it he goes to the r he says listen why you smoking are you allowed to learn you heard that big boom you guys heard that literally feel it that means that the enemy is getting his Zs right now um but I'm saying we're living it we're M living it people in America don't what what's going on so so how how you ask okay you take that you could take the animal and check it over here but you could check that you take this animal you bring it over it's no good you take this bring over there it is good depends how you ask V okay now yesterday I said I jumped [Music] it know also in the what did you say Okay but I don't hear any as he's saying what there was a there was a missile that just fell right here wow okay help let us know if there's any damage whatever somebody on i d in here in a minion and the the the alarm went the sirens went off so somebody came over to me said he's not even part of the said but you should know I believe that this building even though the the roof is made out of straw he said this building is the safest building in took it as a compliment okay balum is from the same family it's the same species as the animals that we're talking about just this one has a hole in the ear this one doesn't have a hole in a but it's the same thing how do I know V maybe you AOW to benefit from it oh so what we're doing is we said step one you're not but how do you know that you're not allow to eat and how do you know you're not benefit so says maybe I could give it to the dog in other words maybe I could benefit from the until now we were saying you're not I'll eat but how do you know you're not to benefit says you you give this to the dog that's the only thing you give to the dog but not so the the famous M the guy went to the RO after a long time not being there so the says why you coming now where were you for three years he said no I heard that if you have a shy and Tra all you need to do is give it to the dog if the dog doesn't eat it that means it's trafe if the dog or if a carrot the dog eats it it's trfe if the dog doesn't eat it it's not TR she says no so very good so so why' you come back today say no no no the dog is very m [Music] okay hold on do I have to say this over here I just um one minute where's this big Rashi here oh so Rashi goes into a whole Shad over here it goes like this there's the idea called B maybe I should have made it as okay is the famous concept that if you an animal that has a fetus they don't even have to the fetus you take the fetus out even if it's alive you can just eat it as is eat it live you have to but what if maybe it's goes on V there I don't want to ruin it here it's here [Music] yeah okay I think it's over here fine so if the P but hold on it's it's where the gar brings B where's B anybody see [Music] B no so it is here I think it's here okay we go vter and put it here so it's here this is this is what I know I have a lot of time to look over the da because it's the second chair today today not tomorrow what okay so so what happens is listen to thisa while you're Shing the mother the B sticks its hand out so the is that the hand is not a b you chop the hand off and you can eat the rest of the animal without but the the the hand how do we know this so brings here this take a look at this if if you're looking at the just say what's B the word b doesn't fit in here so theat is when the hand is in a s it's in open place it went from the mother a that's koser into a that's user open field then so so da something that went out like that is there a of it's a whole you think it's much simpler just by reading it is something like that that went from took itself out that you give to the dog but if you do you go from into the you're going into then it's it's going into a field going when you come out of your come out of the mother however comes to be if you the regular animal in the and when a animal takes sticks his hand out of the out of its boundary then it's but when you go into a you go into then it's you hear this he met them standing by the door if somebody uses the donkey of the firstborn donkey and he's supposed to do a pidion with a sheep and he didn't and he used it to be a woman when we when is this donkey is it alive or dead Bo so he said yesterday she that's alive or this is what we're talking about now you take an animal that's why I said in the other over there said okay he holds all these things are so what he hold is so went ahead and said why did they say it's saucer because people shouldn't confuse it with a regular K with a regular carbon that you sh and you didn't do Z became posle let's say you had a bag whatever it is he didn't do Z became posle so let's say the blood spilled whatever it is I want you to not be confused that kind of thing if the blood spills oh you shouldn't yeah to tell you that if if you said that they're going to say that that something that became is also you should know it's also everything's they made one but really is not only the problem is it seems different this a problem says not only is it but they also make you burn it yeah what you do with after you kill it you bury it some things you bury something you burn so this is the problem so Rashi says the r is from this this line over here it's impossible says rash that why because if is they wouldn't make a that you have to burn it and not only do you have to burn it but something that's similar to it you also have to burn what's similar to a a deer it's like the whole problem with is not even a problem it's just that you're going to get confused with a carbon that became possible and I'm telling you you should take that and burn it not only should you burn it but you should also burn a that's way removed so if I'm telling you that you burn a must be we just told me that so we have a dilemma over here you look at rashash very very long rash just he says a nice all the way at the end he says makes sense it's that why explains it nicely over there you don't want people to be confused so he say everything has the same so they didn't know what to say hold but from the fact that you burn it is also this this person who's a counter who constantly fights with he always everything they say he says the opposite he's the one that put you up to this no [Music] what happened was this person tried to do with a that was that's the story what did he try to be M woman with with the corpse with the body of a dead animal which is worthless almost because it's a TR and you it in the now the question is is that what's a stra soim says that if you Sheed an animal that has a tra that has a hole in it heart in its heart so you didn't she what did you do you didn't do anything you might have removed the of it but you it's not considered says it's you know why because it's not a you hear when I sh an animal let's say I take a gun and I shoot the animal is that a no let's say I an elephant in thear is that a no it has to be an animal that's right to eat and you it says says listen Maybe all you accomplished here by the since TR is that it's not a AA it's not t but it's not a to say that youed this animal in the and therefore it's so if I go and I take this animal and I'm a a woman with it says because it's not you hear any other animal in the world that it's you but this since it's a what it doesn't matter what you know what you didn't know you sh it or nothing you sh the ear no no no you have an animal that that's a tra what does it mean it has a hole in it it's not going to survive the year so who cares if you knew it didn't know you just shed uh an animal that's not eligible for so it's not eligible to be a carbon then it's not a they say it is eligible it's a good for question you this animal that's TR in the b in the B do I have to outside in in the street do I have to cover his blood have to I'm asking do they have to cover the blood no says no and they say yes why because holds that that it's not you just you shot the animal in the head do you have to cover it blood no you just shed a bad animal an animal that's not so M it's also not it's not um it's not so says therefore not could use the the body and whatever it is and give it to the woman with it says if you took all these the whole list in the Mish yeah you take you take the ha of of a it's all you take it and you sell it as a and you made money the M says you could be money the the the doesn't transfer to the money how do we know this says if I sell Myka not me he sells his getka for money the money becomes AER whatever you generate whatever you were able to get out of it it becomes just like it very simple that's only not in the rest of okay but if I learn something like that by so it's a great place to learn for the rest of the T what is what's the now that we're Bucky in this and this idea what's the going to tell us should I ask you again what that means I know you know what it means but the question is if the adults know what it means since you have two that say the same thing then then the t is telling us I don't want you to learn anything from it otherwise I would have just said it in one place what is the we just said the of the the terrible transfers from the into the money grabs the money by it says you know I gave you big re goes to him all the time now he needs a he asks why I need another mitzah another MIT another MIT I know it's another one he says it's the difference of a nail and a screw a nail you you bang it into the wood after a while it becomes a little weak it could come out a screw never becomes weak like that that's what it dis mitz is another turn another turn with the screwdriver you have to be especially in times like this another another another okay we had this question this type of idea before if you tell me that is so then it should transfer to the money and no no it doesn't transfer so this is very interesting basically what the is going to say a bunch of words but very simple the never leaves this fruit so what if I buy another product with it then that product also becomes KES in addition to the original product what if I buy a third product with a second product then Thea transits to the third product and the middle product becomes but the first and the third and what if I buy buy a fourth it transits from the third to the fourth fourth becomes KES first becomes KES everything in the middle not says if he bought with the apples he bought meat so what's I don't know what I did here I don't remember why I did it this is a concept famous concept called be be is once the fruit that particular fruit let's say the apples no longer grow no no longer on the tree then you have to get rid of it from your house if you have these apples in your house you get you have to be you have to destroy them so the the fruit and the meat that you bought with the fruit both have to do beer dog but if you bought he went to the third step you bought with the meat it's already two steps removed you bought fish you bought with the fish you bought wine liquid okay the bottom line is the first one is and the last one is as usual you say you have that's according to but if you could learn from special who only who only so we know you have produce you have to give a little bit to the you have to give a lot of bit to the Ley you have to give a lot to the on and your three and six you have to give 10% of huh in in a building we have to learn we have to see we learn they learn a lot of to there no in the street he said I have picture is it you'll show it on the sh okay yeah we need a lot of we need a lot of if you want to see I always show this picture of my who just stepped out of the B meas I saw him sneak in and out thought I didn't see him but in the there's no siren there don't worry about it the siren if there's a siren the procedure is we will leave and we'll we'll have to reconvene at a different time so mat says every animal you take the for leg you take some of the stomach you can see here the yellow in the picture is just a plastic bag that the stuff is on so it looks a little funny but the cheek is in this in this bowl together with the for leg it's a bunch of stuff that I usually don't eat but I guess it was a big delicacy then and I gave it to my because I own that carbon that that that the animal and I gave it to my who's married to a Bas you could give it to that to somebody like that as well so if you're with who's what value does Trum have to him so we're going to see the and water of the meaning you take the and you put the ashes in water and you take the water and only through that water are you able to be uh somebody came the ashes of the how do you have so much ashes how do you have you have one small that's the last 70 years what do you do with it so you add a ton of wood hundreds of hundreds of pounds of wood all the ashes have the same youres with something called let me just show you the chart in case you forgot what but we're talking about the idea called there's a little bit of of a of a benefit here that that the person that owns the trumer has benefit number one I can give it to whoever I feel like benefit number two and even more value is the fact that I could give it I could sell it if I have truma let's say I have 100 apples that I I I removed from a thousand fruit that I have I have 10% I want to give somebody can come to me and pay me to give it to his grandson another Isel a CO cannot purchase that would be completely illegal that's no that's a big no no K can't come to me and say Hey you have 100 fruit here's $10 give me your fruit but the grandfather could come to me doesn't say father-in-law says a grandfather grandfather who's a grandfather of let's say his daughter married a he could pay a guy that has a ton of fruit that has to be given to said listen I want you to decide to give it to my grandson and here's 100 bucks under the table for that that's 100% legal that's a and now I'm giving that to the my future wife here take that here's 100 apples and you could sell it to any kind you want it works even if we're dealing with so now explain first of all he holds unlike is going to immediately ask him from he holds that this benefit that you have in in TR is nothing you have to go and sell it it's not right now you didn't give me anything it's not moment just read the again here's what happened got so this is very different gets from his grandfathers a imagine if he gets a whole pile of truma that is let's say aen famous a big everybody gives him truma everybody the guy's you go into his you go into storage he has $10,000 worth of truma in there that people gave him as gifts and then he's nter and it goes the only guy to is some ISR out there you he is grandchild how much is that $10,000 worth a truma worth for that ISR how much how much yeah well depends there's a market there's a market foran that if it's $10,000 worth of money then it's $10,000 if a is in the regular Market pays $10,000 for these fruit so the K will pay let's say $5,000 for this fruit but there's a market so now he inherited actual money and that's what he's mades his wife with he's mades with real money it has real value this is not Teo this is not fruit that nobody separate truma of isus and that I don't know I could give it to this coin I can give it that coin this is stuff that's already truma and a ready truma I could sell it there's a market for it I cannot sell I can't sell truma that I'm being maish you hear the Naina very simple I have 100 fruit I take 10 away and I I want to give this to the Ley 10 I can't sell it to anybody some guy some zi could give me some money $2 for that should give it to his grandson but I can't s it but when I inherit from a coin that already owns the truma not that he's M he owns the truma that's very valuable that any Co in the world could eat and any Co will pay good money for it maybe not market value much less than Market but has a good Market 50% on the 5050 cents on the doubt still money but I need one more condition this is very very important there's a concept called do I view this this fruit over here like truma that was given already truma Ander when when the is inherits his grandfather is that is is that is it as if his grandfather says why don't you just go straight to the source why do you have to say that he inherited and it's as ifu just say he inherited truma and that's what he used to be mad's wife says Rashi but I want to tell you a bigger that's not a with that of course that's money I wanted to be to you is that it's as if and with that I was woman asked the question this question that we just asked this little that I have that I can give any Co I want or that a grandfather can give money to give it to his grandson is that considered a monetary value not we learn you see it's word something wait a minute over the just corroborates this idea that we said the we're not talking about we're talking about actual true musl or it's that was taken already and that's how he explained the the mishna for all those in need of all those who need to be leted out of this suffering being held captive against their will young children a two-year-old kid that's being tortured by a rash Mara two-year-old and they proud to show it him proud to show it to the world look what we're doing we're not Humane we're so all those should have a they should come home soon kov in honor of my uncle for year filled with Mas for all of them the wife what are you outgoer whatever the is you're from the outside you he became he was embarrassed he thought he's making fun of him like you're you're Outsider in I could personally relate to this a lot because many times people come oh you insulted me this that who I was just saying what I was saying huh no like like I forgot the guy's name now the the one that was on um living the guy that did the interview about um no what yeah what's his name so she said he's talking about mdy that MD saved his life and then he says rebell he's a he's a equal opportunity offender to to that's right to okay huh TR yeah make fun of as much as maybe even more maybe if somebody we're only going to try to get to the new per if somebody steals te again is this the r just fruit that nobody separated Trum mus and Meers from it he stole how much does he have to pay back you he it's a beautiful Shiloh the guy is a go of he steals 100 apples does he have to pay back the owner 100 or only let's say 80 10 I'll give to the Cen on my own terms and 10% or 10 apples I'll give to the Oni I don't have to give it back to you owner and then guess what the come to him and he says well I don't want to give it to you I want to give it to you because he doesn't pay anybody but does he have to pay back the 100 or does he just pay back 80 so we have a he only has to pay back he has to pay back the 100 no only 80 apples not 100 my to say maybe it's our that we're talking about say no three other reasons whatever however many reasons we have it could be different so we have what again I stole 100 do I have to pay back the original owner 100 or only 80 I tell them it's none of your business the TR it's not yours anyways you're supposed to give it away to the I'll do that I'm just paying you what you deserve 80 maybe is but wait a minute how could I pay back 80 he should pay back at least 85 because there's five fruit here that has value that I can give it to any kind I want any I want or I could get money from a grandfather no no no Force here why maybe everybody holds that this the fact that I can give it whoever I want is not considered money it's not a monetary value and we're talking about a case like we said before he got a from his grandfather like we said before remember rash said from this will be maybe perhaps that's do we say that when his grandfather didn't separate of is as if he did you just have to view it as if he did and the Isel will just say this is what my grandfather separated or perhaps no if he didn't separate then it has of 100% And there's no value in here for the Isel no Force to say that we're talking about whether or not is see every new Concepts so Rashi says very write it down in your gar have a pencil write it down here says Rashi we're away from the father that it came from the grandfather we're not talking about came from the grand you're talking about that he owns a field and everybody holds that when he owns a field it doesn't matter let's say it's as if we already separated but I have no is M or not because everybody's GNA hold not M another question we know one colel is part of Thee the question is more not says no all you need to do give one colonel out of a million that's enough so so re is going to say why are you returning to me 80 fruit you stole 100 you think that you could get away with returning 80 not fear you need to return to me um 82 83 whatever it is why because what are you going to say I I anyways had to give to the Cen 2% not true I only had to give to the K one konel so the 2% that you think that I was supposed to give I I I demand it back because I wasn't planning on giving 2% I'm very stingy I'm going to give the coin one tiny Kel G pay me back maybe that's everybody you have to give much more than a kernel minimum 2% 1% whatever but you have to give a minimum amount something how come says the has to return everything because they said this guy's a bad guy so let's give him a you can say the same everybody holds that one Colonel is enough why don't you have to if it's true that it could get away with one colel what is the guy why how come he says you don't have to give everything back we gave a to the guy that owns all the fruit that he doesn't get his back he only gets 80 fruit not 82 why he shouldn't he should have taken he should have taken TR mice right away what he say away not don't procrastinate we learned in our that if but this is the main point there he takes a glass of water and he gives it to the woman she says what is this she says no no this is much better this is the water it's invisible but it's the water of this has purification Powers you could sprinkle on people you become but wait a minute how could you say that you're that with you woman we learned if somebody takes he takes money to to be a to be a ding you be it's bottle so we're not really talking about bribes over here we're talking about taking money to sit down in a bzden unfortunately it's a big thing today I know there's a lot about they say corrupt not corrupt they take a lot of money these B what the he is exactly okay fine they have some this that other yeah there's a there's a judge huh that every every person is going to come yeah yeah we take $1,000 an hour because we don't want a lot of people to come okay listen depends on the B depends of the thing some are beautiful some are not like everything else in life there's a uh the famous Mya the judge he used to take off his shoes before court and each side the right side was the the defendant the left side was the plaintiff and whoever put him more money he he would put on his shoes right before who more money he would he passing like that person so one day he feels like a lot of money in there so he he says okay it's like the plaintiff he takes off his shoe he can't even walk takes off his shoe and he sees it's full of toilet paper so he says you know this new generation he POS can't trust them anymore and to testify to testify takes money for for Testimony you allow to be you allow to take money like say to write to be on a get but not if you see something and this is it and if you take money to sprinkle and to mix it up that's like disgusting Waters just simple ashes so you see it has no value so how you be he's taking this water and he's he's he's gaining a wife over gain anything from it yeah it says you're not take money for for sprinkling and for the water so how he making money off the The Water by woman your l take money for something that's very hard to do tole water from the well is very hard fill it up but to go like this is is is is uh is is also take money like like teaching to is also takeing money teaching say rash there's no just giving a Shear not a big deal there's two different things there's the water theing and there's the which you shouldn't take any money and with this we should hear y all safe let's see what happens when it gets to the bottom did you uh 45 minutes I think yeah you didn't start at the beginning