Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 54 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] I go Welcome, welcome to all the guests. We got a few of these emails. Since I left they did not have a consistent table remote and every year Simchas Torah has been rough. Since I started the daf 2 years ago, the joy is back. I feel like I'm family, I'm a family member at a chasuna rather than a stranger. Thank you for making my Simchas Torah great again. [Music] Your talmid since Rosh Hashanah, Chaim Miller. [Music] We'll have a new hat, a new slogan. Thank you for making my Simchas Torah great again. Dear Rebbi, every year I felt uncomfortable approaching Simchas Torah. For many years I couldn't connect all the joy lacking a proper Torah learning schedule. Baruch Hashem this year I have three mesechtas I'm counting to dance with in your zchus. Mishakoyach and good Yom Tov, anonymous. Ooh. Maybe I didn't do that. Okay, what is that? A rov is Hi, my name is Sruly Pesach. I joined MDY to learn the daf yomi with Rebbi Zevensky. I joined mesechtas Megillah and I was able to finish my name is Ektus and it changed my life in a very, very good way. I will be mentioning that I'll be joining the MDY Shabbaton for the siyum of mesechtas Kiddushin. I booked my room already and I'm really looking forward to the Shabbos of chizuk for myself and for my family. We'll see you there. No, anybody else want to send in something like that? Show them. I have to tell you um I forgot what I was going to say it. But I do want to start mentioning some of the big sponsors we had. Um let me see if I have if I even put it in. No, I didn't put it in. mdyshabis.com But um the Shabbaton is sponsored uh amongst many, Avi Kaminsky. So it's uh Kaminsky and Nathan I think. We're going to show his logo, Madison Title and um official Somebody came over to me after the shiur yesterday in the sukka and he said he wants to give $10,000 towards uh the Shabbaton and to help people to make it more affordable. Um we started this uh installment plan. I think we might have to change it if people are complaining. I didn't realize it's more of an installment of like a few weeks until up to the the thing. We have to figure out how to extend it a little bit to make it a little easier. So if I'm missing some of the sponsors, I I'm not really familiar with all the sponsors, the large sponsors for the Shabbaton. We'll put them out, we'll start mentioning them every single day b'ezras Hashem. I'm trying to get some other sponsors as well b'ezras Hashem. Oh, this is what? Of course, of course. This is Reb Aryeh Chaim Levin with his stand. You don't see stand, but he got some new recruits there on Chol Hamoed. He went 2 days in a row to two different play everywhere he went. He went to recruit. Yishakoyach. The flyer of Rebbi Zevensky, my husband Moshe Handler has always learned and always enjoyed it, but since he joined MDY it's blatant that his learning is passion, his hobby, his world. When Torah is your obsession, it's a beautiful thing and now our children see it. Thank you for enhancing our whole family's lives. Today, the fourth day of Chol Hamoed, we went to the Mitzvah Museum where some of us learned some science while Moshe learned some Torah. Good Yom Tov, Mrs. Elky Handler. Yishakoyach. [Music] So there is an only a rov going Rebbi Shlita, you mamesh changed my life. I started with you exactly 691 days ago. Today is daf beis and today is my 16th birthday. Never missed a single day of learning with you on all daf, not even on the holidays and Yom Tov. Holidays he means uh vacation, like we would call vacation on Yom Tov. I get up at 6:50, 1 and 1/2 hours before Shachris to learn with my chavrusah, Mordechai Groskopf, which uh as a side note, I just got a thing that he they Didn't they just vote him in? Is this Mordechai Groskopf? But it says here, Mordechai Groskopf is chavrusah. You sent me from another place. He He's like a what? What is he? He got voted in Stamford Hill. PS, would like some MDY merchandise. It's not about daf, it's about yomi. Thank you for inspiring us in daf beis Yom Tov. Join dafyomi.com he puts in the bottom. Yishakoyach. Um Do we have time here? Read this long email or not? No, okay. It's a very, very long email and it's a negative one, so we won't read it. Different time. No. Okay, now they don't want to fight. I echo the people who applaud your general approach to achdus mentioning different groups who participated in shiur, chassidim, snaggim, etc. Torah and achdus is best remedy for the deep, dark golus we're in. Divrei divrei chizuk makes the shiur enjoyable and relatable and likely, together with the art, a reason for its success. At same time, oh, it's getting there. We know that all human comedy is based on our perception of reality and that's why it's funny. For example, when the chosson here's y'all right that there's still hope for you, he's megaleh that on some level he doesn't think you're good enough. But that's his problem, not mine, not yours. He's not our maggid shiur. His narrow views are meaningless to me. What you say on the other hand, even just staying more seriously, to that end I'd like you to stop making kipah serugah jokes. Too bad, I'm not. As much as you talk about achdus, when you make these kind of jokes it implies that at least on some level, daki daki, you look down on people who wear a different skull cap than you do. If that is not what you believe, that is what you imply unintentionally by these jokes. Part two, can you please explain your reluctance to use shmita wine? So first of all, on that thing, I'm not going to get into it, but happens to be I wore a kipah serugah for a year in my life. Why? I'll explain to you. Uh my father is a rebbe in Sha'arei Yoshuv and the rebbetzin, Rebbetzin Freifeld, z'l, she knitted a yarmulke for me. It had my name on it. It was a serugah yarmulke. She knitted it. So when I was 5 years old I wore serugah. So how could how could I be making fun of serugah? I myself wore serugah. I myself am a serugi. You hear that, Shomshi? I myself am a serugi. Shomshi, seriously, when I used to make kipah serugah jokes, do you take it personally? Is there a little bit of emes in there? Makes him want to do it even more. Since I made that joke, uh he has twins. One wears a serugah and one wears a a similar yarmulke. Even more, this is modern. I think with the with the brim. Seret? He has a seret? Uh not yet. He's not in Avenue J. So after I made that joke, he took off that yarmulke. Both of them had serugahs. Okay. We're not going to stop the jokes cuz if I listen to every email in the last 3 weeks, I can't make fun of Litvaks, I can't make fun of chassidim, can't make fun of yeshivish, can't make fun of what? Cancel shidduch. There's no jokes. Finished. Can't say lashon hora anymore. Like Rebbi Rothchild, he can't talk lashon hora anymore. Could you please explain your reluctance to use shmita wine? You mentioned today's shiur as well several months ago making fun of someone's wife you dis- Yeah, I called her a chacham for buying a bottle a shmita wine for her husband. That wasn't the story. I I lied about the story a little bit. I made it nice cuz it was at then. But basically somebody bought a bottle of shmita wine for a certain occasion. I said the the I I changed the story a little bit. Not I don't want anybody to feel bad. See, I am a little sensitive to certain people's feelings. But what what it was is you could get these bottles of of shmita wine almost for free and this person came and gave it like as a chosson gift or something. Something weird. So I That that's what I was knocking. The point is of course that you should you could drink shmita wine. I said yesterday you just have to be very, very careful and therefore I don't advise it because every time we tried it there's always a little bit left in the cup and you're not in the mood and then you have to you go back and then by mistake the cleaning lady throws it out and then it's a whole That's what I was saying. It's lashon hora, it's not ossur to eat. I was just saying. No? He says lo achla, it's may- maybe uh it's a inyan to drink it. Doesn't the Rambam consider it a mitzvah to consume shmita food? Lo achla. Rather you must be extremely careful, finish each kais, finish the bottle, so we wouldn't use the food with kedushas shvi'is for catering or at a simcha, restaurants for children, for adults who appreciate fine wine and understand it's kodesh. Look, in my house almost every single wine cup during the meal there's a little bit that's left over in the bottom. So that's what I'm saying, it's always an issue. Used to be consumed in its entirety. Whatever, everybody do what they want. I'm not a rov, I just threw out my two cents. Why do you condemn eating shmita food? You drink shmita wine it's I don't understand. With respect to normalizing learning the daf, hopefully soon all Jewish people will be learning. We made your value Okay, was it worth saying this in the email? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Rebbi the koilel is sponsored by no one. Parshas Acharei Moshavim as a zchus our family should be blessed with health simcha, nachas for 120. Parshas Acharei Moshavim zchus Yosef Meir ben Nachman l'hatzlacha. Parshas Acharei Moshavim third one, Ilan Chaim Golan l'iluy nishmas Basheva Chaya bas Miriam. L'iluy nishmas Zecharya ben Moshe. L'iluy nishmas Chaya bas Yosef. Parshas Yomi, brain intact, unleash full potential, should result in massive dilution, tremendous success in all my endeavors. Parshas Yomi. L'refuah shleimah Pesach Betzalel ben Chaya bas Sheva. Parshas Yomi, l'piska tovah, l'kol Klal Yisrael, amen. Yishakoyach. Yitzy Eisenthal, something like that. In the zchus for Rebbi Eli and family and all of the MDY family to have a good kvittel. Yishakoyach, Yishakoyach, good kvittel. Yitzy. And my Eitan Nuger, where is he? He's there. Yishakoyach Eitan for being the chef that you are and make those unbelievable pancakes and eggs and challah and omelets. Yishakoyach up my sukkah. So what are you saying? All the money that we're paying you, you're giving right back to MDY? I didn't even pay you yet. I paid half. It was his birthday yesterday. Oh. A dinner again in honor of my 46th birthday on the holy day of Hoshana Rabbah. I'd like to take this opportunity to give the bracha of Gefen gesund parnassah nachas to Reb Eli, the entire MDY family, and all my family and friends, and all of Klal Yisrael. Beautiful. You want to give me the bracha now live? Get over here. You're wearing a kvittel. You're wearing a kvittel. You should have a good kvittel. Oh, no. [Music] Yeshua, yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Amen. Yeshua, thank you. All right. Daughter of the month. You know, there's I forgot to tell you this maaseh, but it's mamesh again now. A beautiful story by Reb Shimon Pinkus, he was on a plane and he's very makpid not to drink water outside of the sukkah. So, but he was very, very thirsty. But Reb Shimon Pinkus, he didn't drink, he didn't drink. And he said, he wrote, that he made a huge mistake. Because there's an inyan not to drink even shokol outside of the sukkah. But there's a de rasha of simcha b'chol regel. And he was over under the rasha. Instead of being mekayem the de rasha, you have to sometimes make the right chashbon. I thought it was a beautiful thing. No? That you have this You have it in you, it's a big inyan, but sometimes you have to make the right chashbon. It's a simcha b'chol regel. The whole flight is in 10 hours all the way to America wherever he's going, being mitztayer on Yom Tov because of the inyan. So, sometimes you have to mamesh fast, yeah, on Yom Tov. Yeah, he made it, that's what he said, he made a shtickel. It's not a shaila of his part, of course he's allowed to halacha l'maaseh. He He had an inyan, he was makpid, it was like a kabbalah of his not to not to I try not drink outside of the sukkah either, but I'll be very, very mitztayer. Zogt Gemara. We're holding No, it's talking and talking. You need to drink like on a fast day. Omar Rav. The afternoon daf on daf the last two words on gimmel amud beis. So we had a sugya here. A machlokes Reb Meir and Rebbi Yehudah. We could even show it a little bit here. According to Reb Meir, when it comes to hegdish, Reb Shimon ben Kidosh And if you do kiddushin, a person is mekadesh a woman with hegdish. He has a bundle of money he's going to give to the Beis Hamikdash and he goes and gives it to a woman. B'shogeg, he doesn't realize it's it's it's the Beis Hamikdash. He has a few bundles and he he thought he already gave it to her. Whatever he thought, he gave it to her. Like kiddushin. So we said we spoke about it yesterday that when it comes to money, Reb Meir holds you can never take it out of hegdish. And if you can't take it out of hegdish, it's not me'ilah. Me'ilah means using it inappropriately, benefiting from it, destroying it, as we're going to the Gemara is going to say, eating it, using it as a candle. But when it comes to money, Reb Meir holds you never it never left What's the difference if it's sitting in this bag over here, in my house, or it's sitting in the woman's house? It's the same money, nothing happened. And Reb Meir holds she's not mekudeshes. It's bottom. And then they asked also, what about if you try to purchase something with it? Also, it's not it's not a mechirah. Because it never left the Beis Hamikdash. So Rav says, listen. Chazon Ish holds like Reb Meir. I looked up and down the entire Shas. Every time Reb Meir talks about me'ilah, shogeg, this, I don't see what you're saying. V'lo ematzinu hegdish b'shogeg eimaschal. Every time Reb Reb Meir talks about hegdish, he he mentions the fact that when when you use hegdish by mistake, it becomes mechulal. It leaves the Beis Hamikdash. B'shogeg eimaschal, b'meizid mischal. U'v'lo ematzinu hegdish eimaschal, b'meizid mischal. Even by meizid, it's mischal, says Rav. Even if you do it on purpose, it's me'ilah. It leaves. Oh. So, what's with our Mishnah that if you mekadesh a woman with hegdish by mistake, she's not mekudeshes. So he comes up with a huge chiddush. Here. The Kohanim used to wear certain begadim, the the Kohen Gadol wore shmonah begadim. A regular Kohen hedyot wore his begadim, four begadim. Now, the halacha is that if they're not worn out, then there's no me'ilah. What's going on? So, does anybody remember where we used where it mentions kost nice Kohen shibalu? Where Where do we use kost nice Kohen shibalu? If it's worn out, Oh, very good. The wicks of Simchas Beis Hasho'eivah. If it's worn out, then you take it, we make those big wicks, the huge flames that they had in Simchas Beis Hasho'eivah. But if it's not worn out, where there's a problem. The Kohen is wearing these clothes, he's benefiting from hegdish, he's doing the avodah. But once the avodah is over, he has to remove his clothes immediately. How could he be using the clothes of the Beis Hamikdash? So the Gemara says, "Hoyil v'nitnu l'Kohanim begadim." Since the Torah allowed you, the Kohen, to to warm up with them, protect you from the sun, l'vishlai nitna Torah l'malachei hashareis. It's an amazing concept. The Torah wasn't given to malachim. We're not malachim, we're human beings. The Torah expected us to act like human beings. So, you you don't finish the avodah, I do the shchitah, but I I I I remove my clothes and like within a millisecond there's a stopwatch, boom. They said, "Do shchitah, then take your time, go to the dressing room, take it off." But what what happened to that whole time in between? You're not doing the avodah now. So you're benefiting from hegdish. Oh, once you're benefiting from hegdish, then that means that you're not taking this clothing out of the Beis Hamikdash ever. You can't start You have 10 minutes, you have 5 minutes. There's no me'ilah when it comes to the the clothing of the Beis Hamikdash. So therefore, what? It's always the Beis Hamikdash. Who owns the clothing? There's a special You know, there's a special room, a dressing room over there. You go in there, you find your size, you get dressed. Who owns it? The Beis Hamikdash owns it. From beginning to end. Me'ilah means it becomes yours, becomes private property. Then if you mo'el, you take it out of the Beis Hamikdash, you put it into your own property, then Gary, just a little lower, maybe. Then then once you take it out of the Beis Hamikdash's property, that's when you're mo'el, you you have to bring a korban asham, you have to pay 25% of the whole thing. But if it remains the Beis Hamikdash, over here in this case, it remains the Beis Hamikdash, you cannot remove it from the Beis Hamikdash's property because it's impossible. You're not a malach. It would have to be the millisecond when you're done, as the the knife is going through the neck, you have to start taking off your clothes. That's impossible. So me'ilah, there's no it remains Beis Hamikdash. And therefore, what? You can't be mekadesh a woman with it. That's what we're talking over here. The Kohen went and gave this woman his clothing, his Beis Hamikdash clothing, it's not kiddushin. That's all he's saying. So a few things here. It says over here, "L'vishlai nitna Torah l'malachei hashareis." So, step number one is that we have to realize that we as human beings, the Torah was given to us. And that's a tremendous, tremendous chiyuv that we have, and that's why we have Simchas Torah. We dance and we're we're we're happy that with the fact that we're not malachim. "Nitna Torah l'vnei Adam." That's that's what the Torah was given to, to us. Why? Because it's a tremendous chiyuv for us to have the Torah. Every time we learn, z'chusim, etc., etc., etc. Another interesting story. It's not the most appropriate one, but I've said worse. It's with the Steipler. I'm going to say belashon nakiyah mamesh, uh no pun intended. There was a guy that had a little bit of an issue. When we moved to Eretz Yisrael when I was a kid, like 10 years old, one of the hardest things for me to get used to was the Israeli toilet toilet paper. Back in the day, you could actually see words. I don't know if they still have this toilet paper. It was pink, it was red, all funny colors. You could see words from newspapers, like mamesh newspaper slash I don't know what. Huh? And it says on it, "L'lo yichush she'eilos g'nizah." Mamesh. You know, you sometimes you could find a whole pasuk or something in it. Never mind. There's a guy, uh a fellow, that he wouldn't stop using toilet paper until he bled. Because the the halacha is you have to be mamesh naki naki naki. He didn't know about famous b'dei thing. It's ein sham, we're not going to go into that chair, that was a whole other thing. We lost a lot of people from that chair. Next. But the Steipler said, "No, m'eizin shaila." The Steipler said, "L'vishlai nitna Torah l'malachei hashareis." A human being has to do what a human being knows how to do. There's a certain amount, zayl, you don't have to like make yourself meshugah that there shouldn't be a drop should be drop. Whatever whatever's normal, whatever's the "L'vishlai nitna Torah l'malachei hashareis." Fine. Huh? What? In the And he says, "L'vishlai nitna Torah l'malachei hashareis." Mishnah says it. Huh? beautiful. By the way, it's time that right now the coil right now as we speak the coil is preparing for a test on this is incredible half a shas. Half a shas. Cuz that's where we're holding. We're holding half a shas. Right after sukkas. Maybe it's a few days after sukkas. Boom, half a shas. So for being part of the coil. For adding every day. Yeah. Fine. So that is where he's of the opinion that you could take it out. Once they are already worn out, then you're then you take it out of the great. But over here we're talking about cousin cousin that are not worn out. So they're still part of the you cannot you make or remove it. There's a a Reb Schwartz he's a little bit of a let's and he said that somebody once called him up to ask him about a certain bucker. And it reminded me of the of my mice with my calling up. They asked the bucker. They asked about the bucker. He said tremendous only by me they didn't say that. They said other stuff. Tremendous tremendous. He said he said what about learning? So this bucker happened to have a head of a you know it wasn't the greatest learner. So so Reb said he's come out like a malach. Come out like a malach. So anyways, they I'm just going to accept this call from my daughter in the middle of I don't know she doesn't maybe she doesn't have. Here I'll show the oh no. She hung oh no. Here anybody want to see my can see my go. Say hello to Mosha everybody. Okay, great. That's not going to be I know that's not going to be the Hi Mosha. I'm just in the middle of a there's a few people listening. Okay? Bye. No that part you can leave in but not as a thumbnail. Okay. So anyway, so the guy gets married and the father of the of the he starts talking to learning. The guy is like they all come and he's in a different world. So he calls Reb he says you said he's yeah yeah he said he's come out like a a malach learning the the this guy is on a big he like he knows he's not bad. He's not not a malach. He's much better than a malach. Fine. So it says the new money the old money. Oh. So oh I I didn't say the part. This is actually a question. It says my love I feel okay what I don't understand exactly what the was having me know was over there it says you are over me it says no my love I feel I think even case of I did see it I forgot what it was. So this is very important. So this is very important. If anybody wants to see that in a nutshell you could go through this my love him. It's very very easy it's an easy read and basically it goes through the whole thing. We have some time? Okay, I'll don't worry. I'll say it the kids are. Here's why is this thing not going? I don't know. Oh really? That's why. Threw it off? Here this guy I want to fight. So in the this is by Rabbi Nathan Fiber from column. I wish he would still do sometimes he does some more. He used to do it every day. In the they had something called it's not like a these pictures this is time for to illustration purposes. Thank you. A means that you put the money in in a very narrow hole and it gets wider in the bottom. Like we have a push this a small hole that the money you can't steal the money but the bottom is wide. So this if you look over here there's different there's different boxes in the you can't put money you know today you don't put money in there but there also had a bunch of these pushkas. So one of them said once a taken. There's six pushkas that said okay. What's going on? So this is basically 101. There was a a room called the of the sky. And I would give a shackle. You're supposed to give it once a year. They would start from all the way through announce announce a shackle and they would give this money. What do they do with the money? They would buy every day like today where there's a lot of and all this stuff. What do you buy? How do you buy that carbon? You buy it with the with the shackle. The shackle. And what about the carbon every day? You need You need money for the carbon every day it's very expensive to from this money. Now if people would give after Nissan then we've gone to another pushka called a taken. The older money. This is new and this is old. And they did something else with the money. So if there was left over money you see the three this just three parts of the money. If they had too much money and they didn't they didn't they would come they would so first of all A they would fill up a three giant boxes of money each one was a side thing three boxes on 15 days before Pesach. And 15 days before and before sukkas. 15 days before sukkas. If there's left over money then they would use that money I just threw in here a like the wall you see the top part is the animals. The second line the left over money was for fixing the walls the the the towers that kind of thing in the I didn't great. Some say just the the outside of the okay. Says the more. The more taken. The new money the money that everybody gives when they're supposed to give it between the Nissan there's on that money. By the way when it comes to the word it always is counter intuitive. means if you're if you do it you're over a doesn't mean you should do it. Typically in means oh you could be no. You're over on the of the and and you're not over on the but taken. What does that mean? So based on what we just said the is there to buy so if you use that money then you're over it's for but if the money is like the sky and the whatever different money's what are we going to do with that money? We're going to fix a wall. So if you use that money it's not the end of the world. You're not over it. It may not be it may no there's on all money. So it may be. My love the of the sky. Stop I wanted to talk about it yesterday but as a as it's important to remember that we're talking about and we're very it's very foreign to us but I once heard a word it says I that gave us two and Pesach. The two of blood. What's that? You couldn't find other a little bit in the middle give a little bit why why blood? Because blood you make a it's a bond it's a it's a bris. That's how you do it like like in Japan they want to make a real deal so they cut the pinky off or whatever they do blood to blood. It's a it's a way that you there's a way they connect and when you think about a carbon it's the same thing same you take the blood of the animal you you shut the carbon that's how you get close we don't have that. We're missing that we're missing that connection we have feel love. Which is not the same thing. So we miss the make those. So it may be it may be. You could you over on on even on the lower levels of money even the money that's left over. But my according to Rav on ice. These walls of your aim. What do you do with the wall? The wall you sit on the wall. You walk on the wall. You stand in the in the shade of the wall. So the wall gives you a lot. [Music] So cannot be that the the wasn't given to us. And the didn't say make sure you don't step in the shade of the wall. When you walk in your you should always jump around all the shades. And then if you're tired it's impossible. That's not what wanted you to do. So there's no there shouldn't be any on the wall. There shouldn't be any on the money that's designated to fix the wall. The you don't do it. Also. How did they build these walls? From the money that people gave the the shackle. This none the wall the towers and anything the roads of the city by Mishnah from the leftover from the second pile whatever is left over. No, according to you, there shouldn't be me law. You just explained that there's no me law when it comes to things that it's impossible to take care of like the clothing of the coin. So, there shouldn't be any me law on this money. So, see you right. We have to switch the names. It's not good. It doesn't fit into what we just said. If a stone from the wall of your slime fell off the wall, they have now in your slime by the the Isn't there Is there a southern wall? No, the the southern wall. Like next to the southern wall is a like a pile of stones. They say that fell off from the time of the urban. And then I don't know if it's I don't know about these things, but one day I'm going to take a tour. There's a guy that's very very close to the sheer who's in charge of the keeps them back. I have to go to talk to they found new things. But, supposedly, he didn't tell me this, but supposedly like you could see scorch marks on these stones that there was a fire whatever different things. I'll go buy them. You take one of these stones. They even say like next to the there's a store that sells like beautiful jewelry. And one of their specialties is like stones that they took right off of the and they chiseled it into beautiful things. Okay, so you got you have a problem here. You have a It's not stone from I don't know if it's from the bias. And it has in it. Which reminds me of another thing. That's why there are people that don't kiss the like myself. They don't even touch. I have never touched the I don't think in my life because of this that my father told me when I was younger of that that the Arabs built houses on the and then rubbed down a little bit even a fraction of a millimeter. Gives it There's such a I'm not telling people to do anything. But, the point is that there's a problem of using the stones. Maybe, we'll see. And The says that you're on the It says and so therefore also the the the coins clothes should be Okay, so you already said it's not I said okay, very good. But, I have a different question. According to is there any in the walls of your slime or is not? So, this we learned in This comes straight out of A person takes a loaf of bread or takes a brownie and he says, "This donut should be like a sheep." What he's referring to is it should be like a carbon copy. It should have It should be I don't want it. I I want to give it to the same image. Here we have some pictures. In the they had a special room that was specific for It's called It's called a special that housed all the carbons. So, you don't have to carbon all the way from all the way from Shamash. You went there. There was a special booth. You purchased the ticket. You went with the ticket. You went to this room. You got yourself a carbon. So, he says, "I wanted carbon." Like the deer. Like the the barn. Like this room over here. They're all carbon. Here's another room. They had a special room with logs with wood for the Every There was a special to put a certain amount of logs every day. It has carbon. Like the fire. Like the Just look above me. Carbon. You want to show, Gary? You might as well have it. So, you're showing the others. Oh. The is the tall thing that jets out. That one. It's 200 ft tall. You see the also in the lower right corner. What's your slime? Your slime is like the walls of your slime. It's interesting that today when talking about the of your slime that in the in the I shall not rabble. It's going to be It's going to be greater. I forgot exactly the word. Anybody remember? It's going to be greater on the next I make this that we're going to have It's going to be greater than the first. Something like that. But, something about rabble talks about. So, tomorrow Also, by the way, there is a sheet though and it's a controversial thing, but I love controversy. There's a sheet that says in the that if you go up the bias, you're on the regular. You don't have to go into the Just going to That's why there's many many people that go to the bias. Me personally, I I I go with the that say you shouldn't go up. It's dangerous. Everybody holds you could go to certain parts of the The big question is where are you going? Cuz you could be caught if you step in the wrong place. What? We'll make them first. That's yeah. The guy came over to me maybe you should promote it as I can't promote something I don't really do, but okay. This is There's people in the sheer There's people in this room right now that go all the time to the bias. It's one of those controversial things. What? Donny's not there now. Donny You go, no? I mean there's a bunch of people. Right, what's the danger, Donny? To to to As far as I know, as long as you walk around, you're not anywhere near cars territory. But, you have you have to know where to go. There's a certain tree that you don't go past. There's a There's a square. Just make a square. You go around. Uh-huh. And tell me you were busy selling me this guy that that was on his way with a sheep up there. You want to show the sheep. Talk to you tomorrow. So, the bottom line is holds that your slime doesn't have carbon. The walls of your slime. So, if I say my bread should be like the walls of your slime, it's not it's not it's not another. It's not carbon. Your slime with the with the with the cough. Should be something that's a carbon. So, you're right. Okay. What says if he says it should be like your slime or not. Oh. So, they hold like not like us. [Music] The what? If you recall yesterday we learned that he holds that it's a question of whether the color agrees to get engaged with my sir or with or maybe the won't agree to it. It's not convenient to go up to your slime. That sort of thing. Therefore, he holds when it comes to if you are a woman with carbon. Don't confuse the two things. And two different things. means owned by the English. He's gives her a ring from the property. If he does it on purpose, she's It comes out of out of the It's If you do it by mistake, nobody wants. We said yesterday the She doesn't want it. He doesn't want it. So, there's no You're not taking it out of They don't want it. If they knew that it's part of They wouldn't want to get engaged with it. It's actually even uses a method. Had they known, they would have never done it. It's a method. However, [Music] but if you took this money and you gave it to a woman and even though she's not to you and even though you didn't remove it from the of your slime, Ask the makes zero sense what you just said. If you If she doesn't become And it didn't leave the of your slime, why in the world would you have a Why in the world would you have a carbon? You only have a carbon when it's when you took it out of the of your slime. Not if you try to take it out of the of your slime. What he meant to say is Those are the same words. If you do it by mistake, it's not a good The like that is that happens when you do something like that. And that's the what we were discussing before. If you consume a product, now you can't say, "Oh, I did it by mistake." It's gone. It's out of this world. So, because it's out of this world, you're liable. We're talking about money. Money, a coin, nothing happened to it. So, I took it from here and I put it into this woman's hand. But, it didn't change it didn't change ownership. It's still the of your slime through and through. And I hear there. What's you guys' names, by the way? Zevy Freund, then? From? Both of you from Monsey? Williamsburg? Who else do we have here? Oh, you look new. What's your name? And you're son of a from? The famous son of a Wow, not a lose. Come more often. Sadik. Who else? I don't think I ever saw your face. I heard the name. And as well as Oh, you. What's your name? Yankee Pearl? You go from where? Monsey. You know the guy? You don't know? For Ennis? He's denying it. Do you know him? No, not really. All right, Ven off. No, Hammerburger also from Monsey. Wow. You don't know either of them. You lived your whole life in Monsey? I lived not my whole life, but um 47 years. 47 years before it became popular. Wow. Anybody else? You or not knew you in the sukkah yesterday. Show me what's your name. Rich Marinelli. Rich Marinelli. Mazel tov on your grandson. Where is he? Should have brought him. They're in the Where do you live? You live also in Monsey? No? I uh just about a mile away. Same thing. It's wow, it's a Monsey day today. Give a and you don't know any of these guys. Not yet. And they don't know you. Okay, give a valid. Unbelievable. Yes. You also go on to that chat, that uh Monsey chat. Be part of it. No? You're on it. That's your clan in the whole zach. Oh, and you're coming to the shabbaton, right? You're coming to shabbaton? Put on the spot. What? Shabbaton. Yes. What? Monsey. We need some more room sold. Okay, fine. There was something something come. Yeah. Okay, fine. So, Re Meir is of the opinion that ma'aser What's ma'aser? Ma'aser sheni. A person has a bunch of fruit. He gives his trumah to the kohen and gives his ma'aser to the levi. Then he gives 10% whatever's left over to himself. That Re Meir holds is not his money. He's allowed to eat it, but it's not his. It's mamon gavoha. And therefore, if you try to get married with that money, it doesn't work. It's not your money to to be mekadesh a woman with. So, halakha Re Meir by ma'aser. Why? Hoyel vesason um lontana say, because we have a raya like we have a mishna like Re Meir. We have a halakha like Re Yehuda could show this chart again if we want. When it comes to hekdesh, according to Re Yehuda, beshogeg is a good kiddushin. Only according to Re Meir, like kiddushin. But according to Re Yehuda, it's a good kiddushin if you mekadesh beshogeg. That means that Re Meir holds Re Yehuda holds that you take it out of the Beit Hamikdash and it becomes your money and you mekadesh your woman. But halakha Re Yehuda by hekdesh, hoyel vesason um lontana say, again we have a mishna like Re Yehuda. So, we're going to go through it. So, kerem revai goes like this. Reboy side, the first 3 years of a tree is called orlah. It's assur behana'ah. The fourth year is called kerem revai if it's a vineyard. Netah revai if it's not. There's a machlokes of does does this apply to all trees or not all trees? Only a vineyard. The Gemara uses a loshon of kerem revai. I think there might be a girsa here of netah revai. Okay. So, I once heard that I don't know if this is true, you can check it out, that the best fruit from a tree is on the fourth year. They say the better esrogim once heard a esrog they would say best is on a on the fourth year. What happens to be that you say, okay, this fruit I'm giving to Hakadosh Baruch Hu. Sort of not I'm not taking it for myself. You but it's really you get to eat it. It's but it's kodesh. So, that's the English translation. There's a lot of similarities between the fruit of of the fourth year to ma'aser sheni. We know ma'aser sheni, you bring up the fruit to Yerushalayim you eat it in Yerushalayim. That's the only place you could eat it. Now, if you don't want you can't bring it up to Yerushalayim, it's too heavy, too much, so you trade the fruit for money. And you carry the money up to Yerushalayim, then you purchase fruit food in Yerushalayim. Same thing with netah revai. If it's too heavy, first you should eat it only in Yerushalayim. If you can't eat in Yerushalayim, it's too heavy, change it into money. Now, with ma'aser sheni, there's another halakha. If you change it into money and you're doing it yourself, you have to add 25%. That's a chumesh. Does that halakha also apply to netah revai? Says the Gemara, Beit Shammai oyrim, you have it like above lines there, let's say. This is not in kerem revai. Beit Shammai oyrim, ein lo chumesh. You don't have to add another 25% to the money that you used to be podeh to redeem it out of netah revai. Ve'ein lo bi'ur. There's another halakha by ma'aser sheni that in years 3 and 6, which are really the years of ma'aser ani, those years you got to get rid of all your ma'aser sheni. You have to destroy it. Not so by netah revai, by kerem revai. Beit Shammai oyrim, yesh lo Not true. You have to add a chumesh. You have to be meva'er it. Beit Shammai oyrim, yesh lo peret um yesh lo olelos. Peret means when you're grabbing the the grapes, so any grape that drops on the on the ground, you leave it there for the poor person. Yesh lo olelos. These are olelos. On the right is regular grapes. On the left is olelos. Those shvakh grapes you leave for the poor. Rashi just points out something very interesting. This is netah revai. Where do you eat netah revai? Kerem revai. Where do you eat it? Only in Yerushalayim. So now, the poor person he finds all these grapes on the ground. This the small the thing that fell. Where does he eat it? He has to go to Yerushalayim. It's like a shvakh kind of tzedakah. He found like three grapes on the ground. Now he has to shlep three grapes to Yerushalayim. Okay. And by the way, I have to tell you this cuz I've been struggling the other shiur to find the word. I was I was looking for a word in Yiddish that describes like the worst kiddushin you can possibly do. What's the worst kiddushin? So, we came up with oiske kvech the title. Yeah? Uh but that's not what I was looking for. I realized that in davening I was looking for it. Oiske klaf teishana. Beautiful. Thank you, Rebbe Elimelech. That's what I was looking for. Oh, oiske klaf teishana. Now, Rebbe Elimelech, could you do kiddushin with oiske klaf teishana? Does it have a shaviv proof to do it? So, could be. I was thinking during davening. I said, but oiske klaf teishana, what What's worse? Getting engaged to a woman with with um oiske kvech the titles or oiske klaf teishanas? So, I think oiske klaf teishana is even worse. It's the worst kiddushin possible. This is what the best I came up with. But it might have a shaviv proof cuz some people say that the leaf has a certain segulah in it. It's a certain segulah. Then I heard somebody say, if you want banim zacharim, so you take the the the branch and you use it as a skewer. She uses one in the barbecue. Got some ma'aser. Guaranteed mamash money guaranteed from a certain certain certain mekubal. And I said it might have a shaviv. It might have a shaviv. And that was lumaisa. That's the word I was looking for. Thank you. Where were you then? Huh? What? On top of me? Yeah, oiske oiske klaf teishanas. Yeah. That's the important. Uh Uba So, Beit Hillel say, everything is your it's again counterintuitive. Kuloy egosh means put it all in the barrel because it's not even yours. It's so not yours that it's yours. In other words, if it was yours, it's if it was yours, you have to give some to the ani. It's yours. It's a regular fruit. You have to give to the ani. But it's not yours. It's the Beit Hamikdash of Hakadosh Baruch Hu. You don't give anything to the poor. So, who gets to drink it all? You. You know what's going on here? It's interesting. Fine. My time with Beit Hillel. Gamrei kodesh kodashim ma'aser. Here's the pasuk. It says um shana revi'is yikorei perikodesh l'Hashem. Oh, hold on a second. This might be interesting. Hold on. Rebbe Nachman Mendel. Hold on. Yom Hoshana Rabbah. Kol hakavod zehr gezunt. Okay. The nevu'ah that he got that it's going to be greater than the thing that happened on Hoshana Rabbah. Okay, give a valid. Zogt die Gemara, um And I called him before shiur and I couldn't get through to him. He actually did get through to him. I heard like chassidim screaming and it was in the middle of is in bells. I guess they don't finish until who knows what. Okay. Fine. My time with Beit Hillel. Gamrei kodesh kodashim ma'aser. So, here you see the the gzeirah shavah. It says um shana revi'is, that's obviously uh kerem revai on the fourth year. And it says by ma'aser, chumesh revi'is l'Hashem kodesh l'Hashem. Kodesh kodashim ma'aser. Mah ma'aser yesh lo chumesh yesh lo bi'ur. Whatever ma'aser has, kerem revai has. So, ma'aser sheni has you have to give extra when you redeem it, you have to pay extra 25%. Yesh lo bi'ur, you have to burn it. If kerem revai, yesh lo chumesh yesh lo bi'ur. Beit Shammai oyrim, gamrei kodesh kodashim Come on feel low. Now be silly and we go always like Why do you say that you don't have to give something to the poor person? It's yours. Otherwise moment had you. And a laugh mayor. So obviously it was like your mayor and here's our source like your mayor because Allah has like be silly. And be silly must all like your mayor then what is moment of a liar that's why it all goes into the God. Here we go to and what's your right like your view that when it comes to headish that what? That headish if you give it to a woman be shy gig you but not be amazing. It's not. She like be a the gizber of the base of remember yesterday we talked about the gizber the guy in charge of all the funds of he takes some of the money and he gives it. Rashi says before he's talking about giving to the cotton. So the cotton I'm not having anything you but if you it's very interesting. We discuss a number of times when it comes to me these kind of things the person doing it she will be out to get the niska. Actually gets a remedy. The gizber realizes mistake before his got anywhere did anything. So he it becomes amazing. Right? Because he realized what he did. So he's not because it's only when you do it by mistake. I can be more like a show you see. So Rashi says we're talking about here a case that both of them realized the and the gizber everybody realized the mistake. They're amazing. Who gets the the company? I find it fascinating. Here you have a guy who has no clue he's a store owner he's taking money from people minding his own business. He's over all the time it's one of these conditions. They're not going to he's not going to get any for it. But he's the one that smile that's the way it works. Because if you're amazing and you know for sure so you have to put all the blame on the guy that doesn't know and the only person that doesn't know is the store owner. I know it's a very interesting. Oh. So anyways you see over here that when you remember when you're a shark what happened Morty where are you? I'm right here. I tell you should sit you know what? No sit over here come on. I mean did I make you I put you in a bad mood just being here? Okay. Good whoo. Feel better anyway. So it's a good thing I told you okay whatever okay. So what you see is that when you do it by mistake you're not over when you do it by on purpose I'm sorry when you do it on purpose be amazing you're not over me when you do it by mistake you are over the store owner is over that's exactly what we used to say you do be shy gig you you engaged get engaged be shy gig then it's a good condition you do it be amazing it's not. What is again review the holds that my sister Shani's moment had you do you could could consider it your own money. You the redeem your own fruit you have to add how much? 25%. Oh here's the keyword. If somebody gave you a gift now says you How can you give somebody something that's not yours? It's it's the base of it's moment of a liar. You could eat it I could give it to you you hear what's going on here? I could give you the my sister Shani you're my guest here's my sister Shani you could eat it. But it's not yours. It's not yours that you're to to give a on it it's not yours. Never again you could eat it doesn't mean it's yours. So it cannot be remember mayor. Well my my sister moment of a liar. I love you you have the opinion my sister Shani is yours and I give it to my friend as a gift it becomes his. And he has to give the fifth. Low low low remember mayor going the yard leave it to me It's talking about that he gave his friend a bunch of fruit without my sister without without my sister. Partial table. There's nothing we learned already in the sector. Did we? That there's a concept that the the true my sister is in the fruit. You just didn't separate it yet but it's in there. That's not what we hold over here he holds that the true my sister is not in the fruit and I gave you just plain old fruit. I was like so different I was able to give it to you because if the true my sister are in the fruit I just don't know where they are and they're waiting for me to separate them then I have no ability to give it to you because it's all my business. But over here I'm giving you fruit that has zero true my sister in it. So I can give it to you as a gift. Now once you have it you take it and you give true my sister. Tell Shima. I put the Shima low. If you take your fourth year fruit and you want to redeem it so you can bring it up to your slime you have to add a fifth. But it also says you need to whether you got it as a gift. So you want to say the same thing again money eat money. You have to say the same thing again how could hold that you can give a gift to my sister. We just established my sister there's no gift why? Because it's moment of a liar. So too when it comes to you shouldn't be able to give it as a gift because it's moment of a liar that's not yours. I love you you though. It must be you though who doesn't know and anyways but my sister holds it's moment of a liar. So you want to say the same thing again remember mayor. Welcome my sister going to have kiss your small daughter. When here so first of all here's a puzzle. You got you got now you got your square. Thank you thank you. What was that? Two more? You want me to I would rather sugar I'll be fine like um I'll be on so much water. So we have to add a fifth that's in the puzzle. This small boy side. These little tiny things. Over here we have trees by the way in um in the alone which I forgot to mention has all the in there they have pomegranate all thing. So it's very annoying when you see our cousins they come sometimes and they start grabbing the olives off the tree. So what do you go go to your play what are you coming to my city whatever. No one saw a guy taking off these olives literally this big. I already told you it's not good to eat an olive raw it's the worst thing ever. But it's like this small smaller like in this picture and he was eating with his bread. Something about that. Anyway so no because he holds that that's a fruit that's not much what we're talking about over here. You know you small daughter. Is this a fruit or not? Rashi explains it's not even this it's like when the flower just the the moment the flower falls off whatever is behind the flower a little dot. With like your small daughter you know of the opinion that it's a fruit we all it's not a fruit. Tell Shima. Should we do this one okay tell Shima. How where we holding time wise? Over an hour? So we're over an hour let's stop right over here have a good morning. May the sham motzei Shabbat Yom Tov at 9:30. [Music]