Daf Yomi Kesubos Daf 73 by R’ Eli Stefansky

everybody you know what i'm saying garnished thank you good luck everybody we have tremendous announcement actually the siama massachusetts the official mdysum is going to take place in london on november 1st and then following that manchester november 2nd so if anybody's interested in joining us yeah yeah magic started it off but that's where the flight comes into london so we're just going to go london then from and whoever wants to join us is welcome to join us huh save the best for last where's dave sharpe her voice we have a gift here for everybody in the room dave sharpman is sitting right over there printed one of these beautiful beautiful uh calendars of an official mdy daffiomy calendar so you can give them out here take over here you go this way you go that that screen if somebody could turn that screen on really appreciate it um what else oh i got a gift here from izzy benzeken huh it's you woo her belly from issy ah the whole mdy thing the valdic it's a travel standard very light very kind it has culmination thick here i don't know what this is you're supposed to put your fingers in here the page in it or something okay wow one per person also another thing this thursday raboisei we're starting subas volume 3 in the art school and i'll tell you my i have a storage in my building which is full with hundreds of untaken gemaras i'm begging you do me a favor take one of these and give them to one of your friends i have gemaras here does anybody want to take one and give to your friend anybody take apart yourself if your friend starts the messerta they have to sign up you give them one of these and then you yourself get a one does anybody in this room want to take one and try it oh we got two takers here we got elvis carl sarri don't tell me the truth now i don't have like a lot of time for this what happened over here somebody put water in here oh maybe the maggot cheer that's in the morning anybody want to wet them or a half price thank you the microphones are just fine me i'm a little wet who cares about my hi rebellion the fellow mdy zoomer i took on five daffo mighty cotton as it was for avi we have a reformed shleima this morning i was learning with you my caught in that base it brought back some memories and gave that cheer from home friday january 14th due to the flu cover that was spreading around the time your zoom froze acted up and no gary by your side every few seconds you poked your finger into the camera into my face see screenshots attached this was my introduction to you it was the first day that i joined mdy after falling for the free gemara bait on what's up status of my friend albert seton your poking work i got hooked fast forward it was the last stopping your vomits at a basement in five pounds thank you motion horn clipped attached after the share i greeted you and introduced my dear friend ronnie avivi why'd you do introduced mdy he was hesitant but you convinced him to join the big cm the following day at bell works he did wow what an experience the office had to see him no words thank you hi just a small observation at one point i noticed a circle dancing around zadie who's resting on his chair recognize him as an official of the official mishna i saw him for the first time in zoom two nights earlier in baltimore i joined in the circle dancing long i felt those were just one large mishpocha that came together for a close family wedding but everybody was the hassan seethage photo at bell works three generations of md wires right to left albert set in harnell for introduced number two yankee bam baro park who introduced three ronnie avivi west henson let's see if we have the picture here this is the picture he sent to me so i don't know if you can see the guy's faces but this is what i did to the picture no jamal this is what they sent me uh they were into the cloud so the clouds are much better in this picture you're right okay anyway so i guess the one that wrote the emails in the center and uh we have a vv let's go back now adam ronnie sun and charlotte my son not md wires yet but join one day on main i'll finish off with a big thank you to this month's anonymous donor of ahmed bayes made the donor you rebellio along with all the empty white however bizarre your thomas it's my cut in the face yankee baum boro park and we have a few more small one sheldon weissman your message regarding safari shiva's my father grew up svardi now shalom weissman spider weissman he grew up spidey i guess he changed his name later on once they went into ashkenazi shiva one of his cousins walked in and said where's the food i'm hungry i think ashkenazi is like like you're not supposed to eat at shiva or something and i supposed to take from their food well there's no food i'm going to dunkin donuts to get a coffee i'll come back later p.s i am shalom that didn't have a last name that you said ah to okay yeah he was on that list with no name sea adler have a wonderful shabbos a good convention your talmud and family and the wire shmari zelingo good morning your belly been doing the dive since yuma my son was yehuda who gave a personal autograph in the uh moving through tightness at his own pace hashem who will finish before his bar mitzvahed you mentioned yesterday about your mother allah wasn't well this is a few days back and your family were recipients of the hesset of remotion must back her well it may be 20 plus years since the tear of your mother unfortunately your moisture washer is still in full force yes on five carlton elena muncie my rover of chester from qui las vegas avigdor in wesley hills every year around peso time speaks about the extraordinary class that emotion does my rub every year takes the source of washing out the dirty pots as young and ryan we're approaching if anyone wants to take part in exploring i mentioned this so the place that i was uh the caterer in my father-in-law's building we used to do what they called hessed weddings so every sunday they used to do a wedding for people that were klekkoides robotim and my father-in-law and his brother and all the children of the family they all came down and they were waiters at these weddings because they hold that has to be done be golf you could give a lot of money you could donate and it's not but you have to do so sit there and carry food in and out you remember those weddings morty remember you were actually a waiter there no yeah yeah she used to make stuff in the kitchen bubbling for a minute show them as the oven room we're approaching if anyone wants to take part it is extremely tested i have posted the info below i want to take this time to wish you an entire fdy family of the year phil good source for god's clay stroller man your thomas marie zillion gold yuma 2021 karen esther foundation 501c3 organization one north cherry lane wesley hills it will be posted on the screen bazer hashem if anyone gets wants to give right now heir rosh hashanah no better time to give dhaka to such an unbelievable uh cause the remission must bachelor fund it's also a very very very good time to give to one of the best causes in class role the i'm not talking about md1 i'm talking about one of the greatest cure organizations mdy good morning revelli enjoying the dapp with the 75-inch monitor thanks again arie silverschlag lakewood new jer they have that in lakewood they have big screens in lakewood also unbelievable uh i think it's time to start learning though we have all night everybody's up anyway still sleepiness i write all day if i can write all day and not finish writing ilo mario shirakai almost no i just added that in regards to what you're doing to change the world once you're at a time but i'll try to keep this even shorter for avi how many deaf people are doing for this course there's a famous gula i personally tried it and it worked wonders i-m-i-n-i-s-a buddhic not talk now one clue is this person's hasidis he went out of his way to get a special email address and it's called good morning rabbi shah gmail.com not to talk during daphne from start to finish the famous place to see on the bruce the return for not talking during davening i was thinking that if you have so many followers that are stick that you're schtick why do you change your slogan or after your famous comparing your boy say ah to good morning rabbi say shah which means be quiet i think you should tell your followers initially learning all these dopamine also beg not to talk during davening i guarantee you that avi will have refusal you can't guarantee such a thing i know it says gula and people sometimes get depressed they told me this ghoul you guarantee it and it didn't work they said if you dive and it doesn't always work sometimes it'll work for something else something the avenue works for something else we already went through this not my guarantee twice is youngest guarantee hashem continue your family should be able to continue to spread toyota ps i have in mind your son every day wow you should also be part of your shirt mister good morning your boy says all right so let's just do the sponsors real quickly the kailua sponsor for the success of our family we're married always to always pray on hashem the messiah first sponsored by ireland families like new jersey because toyota is the best segula the fourth answer reporter's classical ben leia and today's sponsor is jakob slades 12th yard side of my grandmother beatrice reuben bridlo baskayan perez hakoyan three more people joined up we're pushing five thousand dollar for about a hundred and fifty dollars away from five thousand two hundred and eighty three people signed up lee lowenstein akiva boss and avrumi bayman all right here we go today is and we're holding by mishna brand-new mishnah brandon brandon the does kidushin with a woman almanas and he has a condition on condition she doesn't have any nadorum venintu a landlord and he finds out she has another miku dashes like anything else it's a mechatos he thought one way and it turns out to be another way it's not kedushin now i just want to point out nidarim to say something with your mouth and to say i swear that i won't do x y z the mouth is a very very powerful tool as we know and there was a story this week a crazy story a firm guy was driving and fishing and a truck ran him over killed him anki shahad and his friend said that just a week or two before this guy that got killed said i hope a truck runs my car over so i could get the insurance money he said those words and there's a few people there that said yeah they heard him saying it so you got to be careful what you say every word that comes out of our mouth is super super important and has a lot of power says the mishnah now it's interesting so again we started off saying he makes a condition he says i'm going to be makatishi on condition that you don't have any nadarum and then it says kansastam kansa could mean one of two things either he got married to her following the first case of the mishnah in other words he made kedushin he said amikateshu i read qudashiously and then story a continuation of that is this line right over here the third line in the mishnah that is kindness or he didn't continue the the condition or it's a completely new story story number two a person got married to somebody consistent with insulin and diamond he finds out that she's full of these in the dark she can't eat chocolate she she has to do this just do ten jumping jacks every day every tasty chill a big subaru she doesn't get exuber yes divorcer but the supernat i'm an ass chamber moment he says i'm marrying this woman on condition she doesn't have any defects vinimsu mumen and he found out that she has a defect the mission says at the end of the mishnah what a defect means it's whatever the koharim are defected with either kudasha's not a condition again he made it now he said i i'm getting engaged and conditioning you don't have a defect then i found the defect contest movement if he married her and then later on he found the mom so it's again it's but yes divorcer he gives her aksuba there's a mission oh a bunch of mishnahs a very large nose large eye small eyes all sorts of interesting movement heist limb binocim anything that passes the kayan because passes in today for instance it's a big mental illness they hide it from the house and they don't hide it what if you know about it do you tell the other side my father once had a story like that in faraway so eyewitness is very traumatic for a child they my father was very friendly with a certain guy and he told them about private information he knew telling them of course not to say anything that was came from him and they found that it was him they lifted him up in show middle show a few people from seoul carried because they broke this up carried him out the guy is a very good friend with my father until this very day he never got married and uh he told my father he did the right thing the whole thing whatever it was interesting to see my father just out okay um there's a story one of these reviews exhibition stories that uh the kala lent their house to the hudson's family like the cow went out of town so you could you know you come here you can use our house so the hudson's family is the house and what's in shabbos the husson's family announces they're done with the what happened they went through some of the drawers and they found a bottle of some medication that indicated that the color had some mental illness so they said no shaitan it's the grandmother's she has the same name and now the kala wanted to break the shadow because what are you going through my drawers when i lend you my house okay fine nothing interesting you have this mishna word for word from beginning to end maybe one word difference it says over there allele it says ba but it's a word for words the more says why did rebbe say the same mishna twice word for word you have it sometimes says [Music] over here we wanted to say that etc whether or not the condition is what kind of environment talking about there must be a net there that's important to him that affects him slam jumping jacks chocolate nothing we're talking about it's gonna make her repulsive she doesn't eat normally she likes to yayan discussion she's not going to be wearing normal clothing that will affect him and therefore the condition is not conducive that's right i agree although i just had to turn vegetarian without my uh will against chile brought them me and my wife not 100 vegetarian chops to eat a little bit or when we go to restaurants but yeah you should bring it to the 100 if somebody's a vegetarian break the though no i'm just joking don't okay now they're gonna cut it and say yeah you know it's a vegetarian one of the biggest supporters of this year as a vegetarian this guy this guy i will say this that when my when my son was getting married so this individual flew in from los angeles for 10 minutes to say mazeltov and he gave me vegetarian brownies that was his gift and he left that's huh no no there's nothing in the very least nothing in the brownies i mean nothing there wasn't even sugar yeah okay you said okay it's something that has it's a it's an afflicting pain to the guy she can't eat me she's a vegetarian she's not going to drink normally she's casually surviving she's going to wear drabby clothing hobby bo raf popo i don't know if i should say this mice i know about my wife it's not so appropriate okay i won't say it fine i'll say it my wife said no it's appropriate just it's not nice to my wife but she doesn't listen to the sheer so nobody tell her okay whoever watches this don't tell my wife my sister you know she asked me she said i need the credit card i'm going shopping for clothing so you're going shopping for clothes give me one favor do not buy anything that's black or white she's big into black and white nothing i want big dates to find him okay she comes back she says let me show you what i got 10 outfits ten every single one of them was black or white or both uh my sister like hilo she came out one day she couldn't control herself ten outfits i said the mice last night to our guest and she's wearing black and white whatever okay happy birthday what are we talking about over here what is what what's going on here with this this mata shah was just chill that now mendy ariba is going to tell me that he stopped every five seconds it's like okay so we have to go straight now because otherwise we're going to hear from mindy happy birthday what is going on here when he says the you can't have any nadarum and she well is that what he said and we find out that she can eat meat what is it going on he named my racial hair i even made a chart for you so you don't have to look back at what the race in the safe is oh here's the picture of me poking the the camera when the rabbi ben what's his name here this guy yankee bell here i forgot to show it that's what hooked him because i did that he's hooked everybody gets hooked different ways oh i promise i'm not going to talk in the middle okay so the ratio the ratio a menace that's what it says in the ratio i'm not saying so we find out she has a netherlands she can't eat meat no good no conducion but the safer is consistent a guy gets married any one of us gets married you find out that your wife has some sort of ned there maybe that's what's going on what kind of that there has to be another not to drink wine not to eat meat then it's no good says my ratio now if it's the rate she says on condition you don't have nadar and we find out that her nether is she can't eat chocolate it's not what the mystery what the mother explaining where it says meat wine chocolate is not one of those two but why not he said on condition you don't have a net there it means any nether ella you're right must be that he's kind of stop stop he got married without any conditions and he found out that is one of these extremely daring can eat meat and can't drink wine ravage omar loyola maresha no it's talking about where you made a condition um it only goes by what normal people are making normal people don't care if their wife doesn't eat chocolate but normal people care that their wife can't drink wine and eat meat especially in the time of the gemara meet the deloitte captain by inchi lloyd have a payday payday point out types of us however that if a guy says straight out i want to make sure they don't have a nether about chocolate and she says no don't worry about it then he finds out that she did then of course it's not a conducion if he said it specifically or some learned that he just said all nadarum so then it would include that also a person was an encouraging woman with at night but then when it came to to to actually the nissuan part right in the time of the gemara they used to do abrasion and that had a condition tied to it and then he married her without saying again repeating rav omar meno get so we're going to be dealing a lot with raven small today we have a macho i guess raven schmuel if a person goes ahead and marries a woman the act of marriage they have relations did that act cause a conducion even though we know that he made it tonight and he said you're not that i have any nadaram and she does have another perhaps the fact that they had beer that makes we ignore the fact it was a night before it and the gemara explains omar buy it so we have three sheep that's what's going on here today we're only gonna be learning two he doesn't want to stab have relations with a woman and when he has relations with a woman it's the shame marriage so so at the end of the day what he did was he was makati sure again he's my kaiser he made it tonight that you don't have another and then he went ahead and this beer that beer was one of the three ways to be kind of a woman and he's kinder why because he doesn't want his be a stamp to go out there and beat his nose so he's makadasha the fact that he made it tonight yesterday he ignored he's ignoring them he's not murderer what's the difference if you're michael or not michael if a person is michael so she deserves aksuba but if a person is not michael he just doesn't want to make us be a bs nurse she doesn't get exuber he was mukade but now she broke the nether the the the knight that he made so she doesn't get a super it's very important big enough kimino or anybody has an argument in one case they're not going to repeat the same argument in the identical case unless there's a difference in the cases but we saw this macholicus according to by the mccoy says do we say if you're according to abaya he later on goes and has relations with this woman the he wants to be it to be kathysha we have the same akhlaikis that shimon says it doesn't matter and according to rav he's me so i have a little bit of let me see if i have it here here okay i didn't want to put people there it's a funny story well like this step one a guy is married to aktano and she who who married her off the mother the mother couldn't take care of her she lost her husband she's going to take care of this girl for whatever reason she figures it's better that she should be married to this guy than to be in the street so she marries her off now she has the ability this girl has the ability to be mine to say i don't want to be married to this guy and without a get without anything she goes home she didn't do so and then step two she became a dialogue she came larger bigger she's 12 and a half 13 already now the the the nakuda here is that she's still married to the guy in green danny in green and they had relations after she's ignored so the question is how logically the first time they had relations when she's a daila did he what was his intent was he stabbed having relations or did he have intent ah since i was only married to her when she was like tana and the kittanas so now that she's let me do a mice education a new one when she's a daily or perhaps he didn't have that intent so that's exactly the same acharachas that we have now rav omar ain't so a person that has relations he has good havana he doesn't want to stop to be his nose and therefore what the first husband the guy in green you get mate off the screen for a second because we need this we need this thing larger oh you're working okay fine so danny doesn't want to do below sevilla's nose so he's remy kaddish the the suktana he makes a new conducion what happens if he makes inukadushin rabboissai she's one thousand percent married to who to danny comes along the roshiva and marries her what happened nothing a big fat zero you can't marry a married woman so does she need to get from the rush of shiva no but if you hold that the first relations they ever had after she became a godoyla is nothing stab relation he had no carvana like shmuel says there is no there is no concept of another mess so it's very possible that her relationship with danny the guy in green is is nothing it's only they're about kidushin it's not a real condition and he's never mccavisher again he never had he never knew he has to give her another ring do kidushin again comes to russia she even marries her we got a big problem he she needs to get from the reshiva ravon so isn't that the same exact mathematics that we have it's the shiloh in other words or not that's literally the same question we if it only said in this case that we're looking at the case of mion but he caught my rav the raft says another monster below sevilla's nose and she's married to the guy in green mission delected to it's not like our mishna is some sort of tonight everybody knows that the kidushin of aktana is not very strong it's only the rabban even the guy in green he looks to stick all amaranthuses but he knows also so he's going to do a new massive education after she becomes a dialogue but in our mission there's a nigh he tells us kalo you know you want to start off on the right foot so he looks at her and he looks her in the eyes she says do you have any nadarum did you ever make a nether just no absolutely not okay we're getting married i have to trust her so he's not thinking in his mind to do a bill hashem kiddushin he she made a deal he made a deal with her that she doesn't have his name she's going to keep it amazing perhaps rav in this case and our missional halls like that we don't say that is bia is kidusan and therefore in other we don't say any of them might be lost it it's not he's not having kavanaugh to be makati sure why because he spoke to her about it she told him he's known to darwin and he believes her mother but in the case of me on this case on the chart the guy in green is going to be mikado again because he knows that she's not really making him maybe in that case shmuel will agree that his b is bia is not commercial or no they argue in both cases says the gemara okay it's not we learned the second case of the mission again first case is a guy makes it he tells this kala i'm only getting engaged to you on condition you don't have nadar i don't marry women within dharma you haven't even dar no nadar then it says a lie and we don't know if it's the second case or one case let's assume it's one case he says okay i made a deal with you but now he doesn't say anything he gets married to her gets married console stamp without reiterating the the deal he made with her the tonight contest and then after the marriage shalom alaikum how come you're not eating chocolate because i made a net there how come you're doing jumping jacks everywhere because i made another i told you you're not in the dharam oh yeah but there isn't another okay so the gemara now understands that it's a continuation of the first case first case is he was mikados they're engaged with the nether with athanai and then without saying anything he married her oh suba seems like from our mishnah that he's required to give her a gift why does he have to give her rabbi son she didn't fulfill the condition my love kichatnai because to you to the shamul what do you see from here the reason the choir thing wants to say before you turn the page i want you to remember this because it's very very important to remember from the base this question again we're assuming we're assuming that this guy like rav this guy even though he made a deal with her he said you don't have any nadarum and she said she liked him she said yeah i don't have any daughter then he went and he married her that first beer that they had he's been kind of sure with that beer and therefore he has to give her a get because if he wasn't the cashier with that first beer there's no marriage here he made a deal with her i'm only marrying you in condition you don't have any nadarum and she had another so it's not a marriage at all zero you know you don't need to get so why do you need to get it seems like from the mission you need to get she doesn't get a super but you need to get why because he's mikhail's here again with that beer to use to the shmuel so remember that we had a good cache here on shmuel based on this mission is going to use this as proof later on we just turned to the ain't given the base in honor of yankee bam a moisture horn in honor of my uncle rebecca pressman we have to figure out what words to take out for a year oh until rosh hashanah only a year filled with mazel bracha okay no no they're engaged engaged you can't you know they get married yeah you can't you can't retroactively bat on the door you can't no it's only you only have that day when you hear about it and it's when when she does it you can't can't come you can't marry a woman and say oh you have no daughter i'm a vatican in the dark it's when they're married he has this supposed to be in battle no it's too late she did it a year before no no she did a year before so he has no easy he has no power over those in the dark your father the father the father has the right now there okay i will catch up tonight lord sorry lord we're talking about a second case says the gemara the line kunsa stam is a new case we have case number one that he made a deal with her you don't have any dart case number two he didn't make any deal with her he got engaged the regular like most normal people they got married and then that and he and he got he got engaged he got married and then he found out that she hasn't dorm i have a kitchen tonight asking more but what are you telling me that if he is makati sure with a condition becomes a stam and he didn't repeat the deny by gita you admit to me that in that case it's not even a marriage at all and she doesn't even require get because there was a condition here and she broke the condition asked the gemara a very good question why let's just say about why does the mission talk about a case of getting engaged and then he find out he found out we should stay a much stronger case even if they got married and he found out you could be move out of the whole thing the case of the mission is that they were engaged on condition that there's no netherlanding founders in the daring listening a much stronger case can't sustain himself darim if he got married and he found out that she has not ended us but coach king and then of course you know the first case of the of what the mishnah brings down says that's exactly what the mission is talking about it's like a super mexican kind of thing as a division a person gets engaged unconditionally becomes islam and then he went and got married to her without repeating the nether went into allah and the daughter and he found out that she had she's fallen down and or one another says there's no marriage kitchen conscious time and if there's no talk about nadarim just a regular like we have today people get married all the time without asking questions about nadarum takes the challenge tsuba and he finds out that she has an ed there then also she goes out without exuber says according to shmuel yeah according to shmuel according to rav she would need to get here right let's let's do let's repeat according to rav in this case you'd need to get why ain't autumn isabella's nose so why do why do you need to give her aksuba nidranas get nominated by her so by get also he says according i don't i don't want to be married to you i don't want a woman that has nadarum the marriage is not hell at all why do you need to get i'm rabbits really get me right maybe even the rice you don't need to get but rabon said you should get her get you should give her a gift you're going to get me the brain the reason why you need to get is because the town wasn't so sure he had a sufficient is it a good marriage not a good man okay someone comes to the monetary staff he doesn't have to give her [Music] again what's the case we have that a person who has been catholic a woman on night and then he got married to her without repeating the tonight does the marriage the fact that they get married they had beer does that create a problem or not does that show that he wants to be married to her what is the majoricus so we were saying before it has to do with another must be lost or not rabbit holes no we don't say this concept another must be lost especially now so what's the shiloh mahloki is betos stay oh i have a good shot here here's the nosh you see it's dr factor he marries in step one he marries one woman and he makes a condition with her he says i'm only marrying you on condition you don't have any nadar you have any diary of me looks at her no i don't have anything okay fast forward i don't know in a different life he goes ahead and he marries another woman the five-town woman and he didn't say a word to her didn't talk to abandoned dharam that's the mahlikis why on the one hand you see that dr factor is very very concerned about nadarya because in his first marriage he's very specific about it but over here he didn't say a word so that's the macholic do we say no we know that this person is very imaginative and therefore he wouldn't have married number two the the five town or if he knew that she hadn't arm or maybe no maybe he really likes the five-towner and he's michael than adam that's a much like this rav says he likes the five towner he forgot to mention the nadar not that he forgot he purposely doesn't mention the dark because he doesn't care anymore about it because he wants to marry this woman says no from the you see his history we're basing it on his history his history shows he cares about nadarim so he's going to care about the daughter now also it's not a good marriage tulsa means she fooled him and she does have nadarim when it comes to one woman okay so now that is going to be handling this one woman business when it comes to one woman i called ain't suicide doesn't need to get we already know his motorcycle yeah is that how you say something like that okay we already know his mo he does not want this woman to have a get uh a nether and even though he married her after he made a condition by the engagement tyres and goddesses he gives a ring but you don't have the dark no no and then he goes and a year later he cropped the whole thing and he brings her home and he never mentioned the word about nadarum we already know it is what is he said it already by the engagement party the majoricus is by two separate cases two women and that's what i told you guys to remember this question the last last line on um we had the question and then he it seems from the mishnah that he got he made it by the engagement but he married her stam says you need to get and the kashan but it's talking about one woman and you're telling me that if it's one woman you don't even need to get it's so positive it's not a conducion by the same woman that if he got engaged and specified he says i'm a very i'm very picky about women with nadar and then he got married to her he doesn't have to give her a gut the marriage was never high at all and we asked the question for our mission on chamois we said it seems from the mishnah that you do need to give a gift you just told me rabbah that according to everybody likula alma if it's one woman you don't need to get so why in the world do we ask a question for our mishna on one from a case of one woman that you do need to get you see that from our mission we hold everybody agrees that from hours you see that a case of one woman you do need to get so why you rather telling me that everybody agrees in the case of woman you don't need to get that's ignorance no so we have to revise this chart a little bit look at this chart for a second this is two separate women says gemara i'm going to talk to you about something very similar here's the chart it's the same woman but two marriages before we're talking about two marriages to two separate women now we're talking about two marriages to the same woman he married her in 2020 and he specified he says i'm only marrying unconditioned they don't have any nadar and then they got divorced and then they get married again why do they get married again because fizzy book shaney she's good enough and and he'd never mentioned anything about nadarum he already knows her issues he have to ready the problems she never said a word about nadarum so now we have a much like us since in 2020 he was very magpied so maybe he's mapped today also we already know what he cares what he wants from this woman or maybe not one woman it's like a case of two separate women meaning they got married twice greatest but if it's tackle one woman in one marriage without a get in between the react the marriage is not khal at all because there's a condition here that she doesn't have any diamonds she does it says if he's because her by mistake what is beethoven we said before toast means not by mistake it doesn't mean that she lied to him there's some sort of trickery so the pirates talking about arisugya that he told her i'm getting engaged to you on condition you don't have any dharm and she does have nadar lokaira i think what's going to answer no this is talking about something else but we have a good writer from here that what it says if somebody's in college thoughts or poc has been shoved uh there's a this is a famous story where you got to say because we're talking about show fruit the guy was walking in shalom you see a guy walking your slime and he sees like a half a shekel on the floor he bends down he picks it up also he hears giggling he looks up he sees two seminar girls they're laughing they're like throwing half shackles on the floor to see which which loser is going to pick it up so the guy's like he turns red thanks for saying he says you know i can recognize both of you with this half of a shackle he wasn't trying to catch them you're saying that's how that's all you need that's what you're worth okay the reincarnation now the same thing if a qatar was recovered as a woman even though he sent gifts right so typically hassan sends gifts to the kala i don't know instead of roshana different gifts you send a gold watch i don't know what so you think for a second similar to the sugar that we had earlier maybe he's trying to be kind of sure now that he got older maybe he's trying to be catholicisher with the gift or no it's normal to send a gift you're not a catholicist with a set of magazines it's not a good condition he only sent her those makarim because of the condition just a toast it's the same woman without it gets it's one woman upligi and we have a much like us here the chair is the same college we've been discussing before my love tells the dark that in the case of the woman who fooled him so what happened again same exact case that we're talking about the entire time he gets engaged he says on condition you don't have an another and then they get married without any talking about it and there's beer so the is that beer ain't nothing much to be lost and he's kind of would that be or not we have a good riot and not like rabbits says that everybody would be in agreement that in such a case you don't need to get here we have a machines whether or not you need to get low they say we're not talking about the toes of another well we're talking about those proxima pruta he thought that you can you could get engaged with less than a pruther but what's the obvious question that's the next case it says toast it says pakistan says that's the next case kitchen with those above brutal there's two cases kitchen toast eight no you didn't understand bruce gomez it's one case ketchup with toast he made a mistake what was it to say you know it's not a period it's a karma kegan but michael milken what's the first mission including says you have to get married you have to give her a proto show so since he knows that this is whatever this guru that he gave us nothing so then his mechanism later on you have ali um you have people they don't really know they didn't learn conducion and he thought that everything is good and fine and he wasn't makato again with the beer it's very interesting again you see the idea everything is in the head it's the same exact act the same mice beer but you could say to yourself i am a kaddish with this act this woman who needs kidus maybe the what the act of conditioning he did before and is not good it's the same exact act if you don't have the marshava you're not married if you have the bhakshava you are married aceved i am having relations with you on condition that my father my father agrees to this marriage and even though his own father is against the shidduch it's a good condition we need the father to agree who's it nigh here ask the gemara again we have air conditioned a situation it's one woman without a get in the middle so it's one lo one one woman oop league and we have a machis when the man says on condition that my father agrees to the marriage it means a condition that he's quiet he doesn't make a baba ghan for him it's a big deal usually his father is in meshuggah he goes crazy and if he's quiet it means he agrees versus sick and he's agreeable no you have to get a guess out of him yeah you're on the i don't know if you ever sat in in america if you sit on the bulkhead in the in the exit row so the the the story comes over you sit here you know this this is the door you agree i said do you agree you need a verbal yes if you're just shy sick it's not good enough certainly even if you shake your head it's not good enough okay you have to say yes victorious guys in the case by a young girl her father married her off now this is midori it's a good condition it's a good marriage because the father has the right to the right to marry of his daughter not the mother the father and then she got divorced what happens when she gets divorced she's considered an orphan in her father's life we've learned ivamus we we know this very well because she could get divorced the father takes the get whatever but now she left her father's domain cause she was married so it's as if halachically speaking when it comes to illusion things she's as if she's an orphan in other words the father can't marry her off again the xero the original husband took her back when she's a katana so what is that what kind of conducion is that she is an orphan in her father's lifetime she's a katana and a random guy or not around her her original husband or ex marries her again what kind of conducion is that it's only the rabbana it's barely a conducion me the rice is for sure not in condition the rice is only conducion when the father marries her she doesn't have the right to marry herself off she's a tada so that is that if if that husband dies since it's not their iso so you for sure don't perform so we require why her get from her ex that's great when he divorced her when she was a tana and he took her back and the second marriage was when she was ignored but if he remarried her when she was ignored this is our case she grew up she became an adult under his domain the maze and then he died or he lets us oh my badmiss then there is evil why because we're going to say that he is another must the first time they had relations he's mukaduser so here we have a machis again do we say this over here there's no real get in the marriage awesome and they argue awesome so this is whether or not the first time he had relationship once she grew up did he realize he has to be mahaven or he didn't realize that my boy sai have a wonderful day meaningful speeches we'll see you tomorrow you