Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 30 by R' Eli Stefansky

[singing] [music] [singing] >> It's a beautiful. Um, what are you sitting over there? Occupy the two guys next to me over here, please. What do you got, oh. I feel overwhelmed a little bit, David. What are we going to do? Wow, wow. We got one guy with a black hat, didn't take it off yet. Uh, this is a tough one, my boy. This is a tough email. Reb Eli Um, I guess no. That's not how you read it, but I when I say the name, you guys are going to be shocked. Reb Eli is well known for his brochos, babies born, shidduchim happening, business flourishing through his blessings. What's less known is the curse of the Stefansky. A few years ago I wrote an anonymous letter. That's the problem. You wrote it anonymously. Anonymous letter praising the incredible benefits of learning Daf Yomi through MDY. I mentioned that as a recruiter, someone from this year had started using me professionally, placements were happening, business was booming, and money was flying through. I also mentioned that while I was giving regular mice to my own sedakas, his own, I wasn't giving to MDY. Belly did not like that in the least. He basically said I was being ungrateful and couldn't believe I wasn't giving back to the source. At that moment I knew I'd be lucky to place another person at the company again. And that's exactly what happened. Everything went wrong. Candidates get fired before guaranteed periods were up. People took other jobs, placing disappeared. Now, now fast forward. Through MDY, I've just received a new company to work with. This time I I committed to giving mice to MDY and now sponsoring a week of this year. As the rabbin says, complete truva is when you're in the same position again and this time you do the right thing. >> [snorts] >> So, I can officially say I've now done complete truva and I encourage anyone making money through MDY to give back to this year. Robert Early. >> [applause] >> Preston Harris Group Recruitment. That is another tough one over here, very tough one. Actually, no, this is not tough. Uh when we tell me that I always am cool of there really I want to share a thought about the miracle trip, but really I took something completely different from it. I'll cut straight to the chase and keep it short as possible. Nearly 20 years ago, Yerushalayim, I taught a Canadian Sefardi bocher. We came from very different backgrounds, but we learned together day in day out. He taught this guy. We finished the masakta by heart together, masakta soita, and we're tested on it. Then life moved on. I went to Australia, he went back to Canada. We kept in touch here and there, but that was about it. I never imagined that all these years later the connection would come back in such a powerful way. More recently that connection has grown again and before I knew it I found myself deeply inspired by him. Jamie Azulay, the way he lives with Torah, the way his family is involved, the way he's driven, motivated, and passionate about learning, the way he gives of himself, his time, his and his philanthropy for the claw and the organization. I always never thought that there would come where I would be learning from the person I once learned with. With the meter in the claw. I came thinking I would inspire others with them the why instead I find myself inspired by him. Connected with him again in Connecticut at the Shabbat reconnecting Cedars and now watching him on the miracle trip. It genuinely moved me. His energy, his commitment, his Torah and how much he's doing for the cause is something very special. Just a quick shoutout to Jamie. I'm moved, motivated, inspired, and reminded and it reminded me that sometimes the person you once taught becomes the person who teaches you the most. Warm regards, Gershy Rose. There's one mean email here. I guess I left it out. I'll just say about Beth. The guy says anonymous. Of course anonymous. He says to it's better not to make a nether and promise somebody something and not to pay back. And what a man it is. He didn't say it in those words. How did I not pay 800 G his helicopter ride? >> [snorts] >> And then he said that that would be enough. That would He says he enjoys the sheer a lot this guy. Anonymous. And he says you go spend so much time to enjoy yourself all over the world. You don't take him. That That part I didn't like and I didn't appreciate. >> I don't like it either. I'm with you. I got you back. >> So why did you write it? >> I didn't write it. >> I know. I know it wasn't you. I know it wasn't you. It was It didn't It didn't have It didn't have the right there for Harris for somebody that learned Torah from somebody else. You know what I mean? It was It was missing a little bit of that >> respect. >> Yeah. >> I got >> I I'm not I don't care that much but it was it was weird that he would write like that. 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And then we jump right back into colon with different types of heaters and stuff. But before that we have a great so guy. We had a question in heater. The tail end of the heater is that all that counts? Or is heater something that takes the entire process of heater? So we had the two gauges. Gauge on top shows the heater starting and ending and therefore the entire thing is heater. And you have a gauge on the on the on the bottom that just jumped all the way at the end. I'm a lover. So says rubber he casually if I'm going to ask a question about the heaters or or prove how casually from this mission that we just discussed about para Dumer. The man the armor in all the heater element side according to the man that says the heater only occurs all the way at the end lift like that share of the para. >> [snorts] >> So you can make a very simple distinction. It's a game file like whoever deals with para Dumer becomes Tommy. The show you could becomes Tommy. The guy that burns it becomes Tommy. The guy that schleps it. All the people that deal with the para Dumer become Tommy. Two people Ruben and Shimon shocked the para Dumer. Ruben is cutting away cutting and cutting is not going well. Five minutes into it Shimon says you know let me take over. I see you don't know what you're doing. Let give me the knife. He takes the knife he cuts and he finishes. Now if the heater is only at end, so who performed the shechitah? Only the second guy, Shimon. So, Reuven didn't even do a shechitah. So, Reuven would be tamei. And if you say yesh l'shchitah mit'chilah v'sof, so both of them performed the shechitah because it starts from the beginning and goes all the way through, and therefore they're both tamei. Why didn't you say that? So, the Gemara says because in the Gemara there's a hava because two people can't shecht. The first guy, Reuven, is not tamei. Why? Because the shechitah only occurs all the way at the end, the last millisecond. That's what you're talking about? Bar minan That's not a great example. The tanina because we learned tizbach We had this yesterday. Tizbach shecht b'zavachim. Two individuals should not shecht one animal. Oh. Boom. So, that's the end of the question. You can't have two people shechting one animal. And another halachah, tizbachu shnei shecht shnei zavachim. You can't have one person shechting two animals in kodesh in the Beit Hamikdash. Amar Rav Kahana, b'chilu k'seiv, it says without a vav. So, we have shnei mesorot, you darshan the way it is actually written. So, tizbachu tizbach You should You should shecht it in singular. You shouldn't shecht two, you should shecht one. Akol ponim, you see from here that two people should not shecht one animal. This is only Reb Elozar ben Shimon. It's not true. Chachamim argue, and we go with Chachamim that two people could shecht one. And if two people could shecht one animal, then what's the add question? We have seats here if you want. We have one seat over here. We have two seats over here. You guys come in if you want to stay for the whole thing. Well, how am I saying that two people could share one animal? No, so I have a question. Why can't Reuben and Shimon share? Reuben will be Shimon will be tame. Another question Rashi says a sudra is a hat in this case. It makes a lot of sense. Person was shuckting with a hat. Another person came along, didn't like his hat. They had the hat issue all the way back in the day. Why are you wearing a hat? Why are you wearing this kind of hat, you shaygetz? Oh, I'll put on this hat. Now, the question is if you have one person performing the shchita from beginning to end, but you hold that the shchita only occurs all the way at the tail end. Shchita is basoyf, not beginning to the end, but only basoyf. So, the hat that he wore in the beginning is not tame. Because the shchita only happened at the end. And the hat that he wore all the way at the end, well, comes tame. Just want to show give you an example. As I'm learning this an hour and a half before shear, I'm like, "Ooh, this would be a good idea." I send the idea to the artist. And this is what they came up with it literally within an hour and a half. You got the Medidas guys. >> Well, anything for the boss upstairs. SHAYGETZ, WHAT KIND OF A HAT IS THAT? >> AND IT'S shita of a soiv, so it's not became tamei, give up on it. >> [laughter] >> Shake it. Can you imagine a guy shutting the parah adumah with a cap baseball cap? It's not that disrespectful and disgusting. I agree. You would do it? The parah adumah? You just lost your helicopter ride. Says he's more okay. That's not a good Maybe I could be doing this. Ella shula the parah kamaira. We're not talking about the beginning part, the shita part. We want to talk about a real shita. More than that, what? That if a person let's say does the hazah, the sprinkling of the blood of the of the of the parah adumah. And he and he and he texted somebody while he was doing it. He he cut a watermelon while he was doing it, the hazah part. So the parah adumah becomes pasul from that point on. And everything before that is kosher. That's what we want to say. We want to say we made it pasul. Now we made it kosher. The bigger shita is we made it pasul, so everybody before that is tahor. Or tamei I should say. Everybody before that is tamei. Why? Because the part there was a parah adumah around and when you're dealing with a parah adumah that was kosher, you become tamei. And everybody after the cutting of the watermelon is tahor because it's no longer a parah adumah. So it's a great It's a great ha. We're not talking about kosher stuff, we're talking about pasul stuff. Okay. Most of them eating by Robin. So there's a more than shita again. A lot of times people come here, they space out. They don't It's too difficult. Not too difficult. It has to be just very very smooth. But if you just came and you learn one alacha. you're learning Yeshiva and you're learning eon, but you just learned this one halacha, it's good enough. We had it in this week's parsha, this week's parsha. No, actually not. No. Something else. I'm I'm confusing the the Pesach Sheni thing. There's a halacha that not everybody's familiar with. It says that you're not allowed to chef any carbon, any carbon including the carbon Pesach according to including a shalom, any carbon while you have chometz in your house on Pesach. So on Chol HaMoed, did anybody know this halacha? Not really. 90% of people don't know this halacha. I I'm just throwing out a number. It's a possuk in the Torah. Lo sischat al chometz dam zivchi. Don't chef when you have chometz. Now, most normal people don't have chometz. I know a maggid shiur who this year his chavruta Rebby Didya asked him to borrow his car in Eretz Yisrael. He didn't need it cuz he was in America. And he said, "Sure." He calls back frantically. He says, "Why is there a box of cookies in the front seat?" When I left America, I forgot to So that's chometz on Pesach. I owned chometz. Now, obviously, I was mevatal it and I sold it and everything. So I hope I wasn't over. But it's possible. Huh? >> You left very early because of the war, man. >> Because of the war? I don't remember. That's not why I left. I leave because of wars? Why would I leave here if I leave because of wars? Ah, that was like some Okay, I don't remember anymore my excuses. That's why I told you guys. It's my my wife wanted to go back to Chicago. Anyway, a call upon of a friend, if a person owns chometz on Pesach, that's on Pesach, he's not allowed to chef a carbon. So let's just do this very very It's very very simple. A guy has a carbon Pesach that ran away. So he is he going to do? He bought another one. When did he find the the original carbon Pesach? Right after Usually, you find it right after it's right after he Okay. So, he finds his carbon Pesach on Chol Hamoed. There it is. Boom. He has a carbon Pesach. It actually carbon Pesach We have the carbon Pesach. He wears a kittel. Yeah, it's just to show you carbon Pesach. Here we go. This guy. Okay? He's a carbon Pesach cuz he's the the the sheep that you bring as a carbon Pesach. He wears a kittel to That's him. Okay. So, this guy with the kittel on Chol Hamoed you have chametz in your house. You start shechting this guy. Now, it's not 100% a shalem. I heard you say shalem. Why is it a shalem? Let's say Hold on a second. Now, what if this guy What if this guy needs to bring another carbon Pesach. Let's say Let's say he was tamei. Let's say he was tamei. He went to Levi'ah Erev Pesach. He's tamei. So, now he he could use this carbon Pesach Sheini. That's this week's parsha. Pesach Sheini in 1 month. So, right now it's a carbon Pesach. He shechts this carbon on Chol Hamoed Pesach. It's assur. You know how to shecht a carbon Pesach on on Chol Hamoed? You can either shecht it Erev Pesach. And if you have tumah, you can shecht it in a month from now. But, on Chol Hamoed, everybody agrees you can't shecht it. She shechts it on Chol Hamoed. And he has a box of cookies in his car. The question is, is he over on the issur of shechting a carbon on Pesach? Now, if if this guy is completely it's it's passul, it's a terrible carbon, so then he doesn't he's not over on having cookies. Why? You're only over when you shecht the real carbon. But, you use a passul, so the Gemara wants to say, if I say that the shchita is all the way at the end, then I shochted a great carbon. Why? Cuz the fact that I shochted a carbon Pesach and milk and chametz, that's terrible. So, I possul it from from a carbon Pesach. But, what does it flip into? If a carbon Pesach flips into a shlamim. And that shlamim I caught him at the tail end of my shchita. Boom! I did a beautiful shchita on a shlamim. At the end of the shchita. And I had a box of cookies. Box of cookies with shochting a shlamim on Pesach is a big no-no. I'm over on this possul of lo sischa chametz dam zivchei. But, if I'm shochting from beginning to end, so the entire thing is going to be a possul carbon Pesach. There is no beginning and end. It's one long thing. And I shochted a carbon Pesach from beginning to end on chol ha-moed. So, I shochted something possul. I shochted something possul with a box of cookies. I'm not over on this issur. Let's see inside and that's the end of today's sugia. And then it all flows now. So, let's see inside. Maseches review by Ravin. U ba-moed on chol ha-moed, and he has this carbon Pesach that he just found lishmo possul. If you do it as a carbon Pesach, you're possul because you did something terrible. You don't shoch the carbon Pesach on chol ha-moed. Shlo lishmo, but if you had intent that this animal is not a carbon Pesach, it's a shlamim, chayav. Now, I shochted on chol ha-moed with a box of cookies in my car, I'm chayav lo sischa dam zivchei. Lo sischa dam zivchei al chametz al chametz dam zivchei. Ravina bar Now, the Gemara just goes into a long explanation. Ravina bar timer shlo lishmo. It's because you thought to yourself that it's a shlamim. Hastama, but if you didn't think to yourself, you didn't say, "Oh, it's not a carbon Pesach anymore. It's a shlamim." You didn't do anything. You didn't say anything. Stahma. You stahmed. Nothing. You Nothing went through your mind. Potter. Why am I by my potter? I don't understand something. It flips. That's what Rebbi Yishmael was saying. It flips into a shlamim automatically. You see it from here? No. That on Yom Kippur in order to flip a carbon Pesach into a shlamim, you have to physically say it's becoming a shlamim. What happened was that the owner couldn't bring his carbon on erev Pesach. They needed to go on Pesach Sheni. So, what do you do with the carbon Pesach? You just bring it to Sukkos You bring it on Yud Daled Iyar. You wanted. You You have a carbon Pesach. You decided it's going to be a carbon Pesach on erev Pesach. You couldn't make it. You went to a levaya. So, obviously you want to keep it as a carbon Pesach for for the second month for the second time around. Only in this kind of case where it's not obvious what you want to do with this carbon. Why is it not obvious? Because you need to bring a carbon Pesach on Yud Daled Iyar. It's not Yud Daled Iyar yet. So, you probably want to use it as a as a carbon Pesach. So, in order for you to say it's not a carbon Pesach and it's a carbon shlamim, you have to do something about it. You have to say it. But let's say you're a person that brought a carbon Pesach on Yud Daled Nissan on erev Pesach. And now you have You're stuck with this, so to speak. You're stuck with this carbon that got lost. Automatically it will flip to shlamim cuz you have no use for it on Yud Daled Iyar. Okay. We're done with that. But what's the question here? So, if you hold that it's one long shchita, it passed away in the killer shchita. Let's see how he did it. Maybe he'll make it easier. Maybe he'll make it harder. When he shucks the carbon it becomes a puzzle carbon Pesach. And he's a puzzle carbon Pesach from beginning to end. That's if you hold yes to the outside. But if you hold that the shuck is only at the end, not the entire time, so in the beginning when he shucked it he becomes a Pesach a carbon Pesach puzzle. But at the last moment he flips into a shlum and he shucked it a shlum. And what happens when you shuck a good carbon shlum and you own a box of cookies chometz? Then you're over the issue. So it's an after minute whether we hold that the shuck goes from beginning to end or whether the shuck goes only at the end. Cuz if it only goes at the end, then you shucked it a shlum and not a carbon Pesach. If it goes from beginning to end then you shucked it a Pesach. Earlier I was saying but if you hold that the shuck only occurs at the end in the beginning it's no longer a carbon Pesach. Yeah, I can't bring this now as a carbon Pesach. And at the last end you shucked it a shlum. And you're over the issue of so by tries to say something here and he Pesach. What happened? In this case, this bottom case, We said it's no longer carbon Pesach but it turns into a shlum. Wait a minute says Abaya. Why? When you shucked it in the beginning and At that point you could redeem it. Anytime you have a carbon that's puzzle you could redeem. And you could redeem it for money and maybe buy another carbon Pesach with it or whatever. So it remains in the in the parsha of Pesach a carbon Pesach. Normally a buying it would make sense. So since it's a carbon Pesach still, why is it carbon Pesach still? Because I'm going to redeem it. So Abaya Just the fact that I have a box of cookies I didn't shach, a kosher animal I shach'd in Pesach says a bye. I didn't shach the shlamim, I shach'd the Pesach and I'm going to redeem it. The tamei b'heima anytime you want to redeem something you have to stand it up on its legs and you have to give it an appraisal. And this guy shach'd it. No, that's not a problem. It's not that even even if you shach'd an animal and jumping around like a lizard, hareik hold breil it's as if it's alive. End of the sugira boys, I here we go to much easier stuff. Guest. Shalom aleichem guest. Where is the haisder? Yeah, you're still guest for me. How long ago were you here? Really? Wow, from where? Where are you? Where are you from? Here in Israel. Shalom aleichem and you? From where? Monsey, shalom aleichem. You? Not a guest. A guest, shalom aleichem. From? Shalom aleichem. Nice to meet you. From Teaneck. Shalom aleichem. Anybody else want to say hello? Shalom aleichem. From? London, shalom aleichem. Tenach? Why? Oh, it's the wrong word. Exact exactly exactly my point. You just made the point. Omer of you. Omer of you. Omer of. Vaiter. >> [laughter] >> Oh. Wow, we have a new pipe here. Oh, gishmack. If he shachs one and then he goes down two three says Rashi, but this one is a rife. According to Tosfos he did a little bit over here and then on the same ring he did a little bit over here and a little bit more over here. So together you have like a rife and together it's okay. But we're not going with Tosfos. Here, I'll just show you Tosfos you want to see it. Here. We will show this to the Rav Chaim. Okay. This shield is Okay, very good. So what would be the problem here? Let's think about a problem. So he checked a little bit here. Then he checked a little bit here. And then when he got over here he did again this rife. What's the problem? I can't think of a problem. The Gemara has a little bit of an issue. Why is it not a problem? Because we already said if you cut a little bit of the trachea it's not it doesn't make the it doesn't render the animal treif. You can come back the next day and continue checking there. You did it twice, three times. And finally you did it rife according to Rashi. You know what the problem is? There's a lot of tension on this corner. And especially when you pull the neck backwards with the machine you want it to like break open. But when you make more cuts on the corner it will lessen the tension. So it won't break open the way you want it. You want it for us to be completely open split. When the the checker looks inside he sees a complete division. That might not happen if you do a bunch of cuts. Okay, I can hear that. You don't have that it's not tight anymore. for us. You have to do a shita that pops open. Don't hate shochat the shover mirror madiva. It should be shochat. The shita should be like a case like an arrow. An arrow is a one-time thing. It's a one shot, one cut. And so too shita is one cut. Oh, sorry. Two people hold the knife and they shacht. Each one has a knife. Now we're going to learn each one has a knife. It doesn't seem like that from the loshon. Each one has a knife. Let's take out this knife so we have two. Hm. One is on top, one is on the bottom. L'malo l'mato. Yeah? Or like this way. I don't want it to fall on me. Not a great idea, but like this. Okay, one is on top. The shita knife is on top and the razor blade is on the bottom. Okay. I'm getting too comfortable with this. It's not good. >> [sighs] >> As as Ethan you would say, "Would have been great for the ratings." >> 100%. >> So should I do it on purpose? >> Yeah, of course. >> A little slice. >> Yeah. >> Make it look like an accident. >> Uh >> [laughter] >> I feel I have another shita to give afterwards. No time for emergency rooms now. Even if one shochat is cutting from the top, one is on the bottom. Am I But like you shita me for us. You just told me that if this cutter has one cut here, one cut down here, it's not good because it won't pop open. All right, review we should do it no, you you learned it wrong. Later on the Gamorah we're going to prove that it means two people with two knives, even that case. He says, "No, it's two people with one knife. Just they're doing it on an angle. Instead of shafting like this, they're shafting like this. You know, one guy's holding this edge, one guy's holding the bottom edge. So, you have a little ma little ma ma ma ta. Yeah, not like this, like this. It doesn't show well. This one. Okay. Fine. Over there Yochie, I have a problem with what you're telling me. It says, that we're not concerned when two people shaft, we're not concerned that the one is going to make a treif for the other one. The one is going to make it a treif. Now, how does that work? If two people are holding one knife. Yeah, it's two knives. Two people. Two people shafting. If we're talking about two knives and two different people, that's great. It's like the Gamorah says, and there's a famous saying in English, too many chefs or whatever. The Gamorah talks about a pot of soup. You can't have too many chefs doing one pot of soup because each one is going to say, "Oh, he put in the salt. He did it." Everybody blames the other guy. So, over here also, you're going to have two two many chefs stirring the pot. Too many Too many cooks spoil the broth. Wow, okay. >> That's how you introduce Yossi Klein, CEO. We had the whole video showing Noam and Avi messing up the soup. >> [snorts] >> Really? How you Yamin? How long was that? Okay, can't remember this guy showing up at three weeks ago. You told telling about a video of Yossi Klein who Yeah, it makes sense. Okay. That's what I said. I said that you can't have too many chefs. That's the That was the big issue back then. Too many chefs. Still an issue, but it's better now. Um yeah, oh, so now the same each Each guy is going to rely on the other guy. Each guy is going to say the other guy did it right. Come on, we're not concerned. But if two people are holding one knife, how is one of them going to make it treif? They're both doing the same shchita. So, what's the concern? What is the concern when two people do it? D'rissa. Should have said d'rissa. What's the point of the d'rissa? When two people hold a knife, instead of doing it in a nice back and forth motion, there's going to be a little bit more too much pressure, downward pressure that's ossur to do while you're shocheting, and you're right, that's exactly the loshon here. Shami d'rissa that's Sponsored by that global specialist in international financial services Mhm. There's a video I forgot to show it earlier. Let me show it to you now. This was an EF Shul Thomson. I literally forgot to show it. I showed it in the Hebrew, I forgot to show it in the English. Remember I said by the matzah, I I know how to cut matzah well. >> Exactly half and half, boys. >> [crying] [crying] >> You both want exactly the same? >> [snorts] >> Listen, you come to this year you get unbelievable tips. >> [laughter] >> It's one of the side benefits. Zack Taylor Gamal >> [clears throat] >> If somebody shocked it the veshed Oh, so we need two pipes. Oh. Veshed. This is the corner. This is the the trachea, the breathing pipe. This is the food pipe. If you shocked it one this up here and this guy all the way down here. One two, you took the knife and somehow you got in there and you shocked it. The more is asking that when you shock the two simanim together right over here then you could open up the the animal and look inside or this way open up and you see through the trachea through the the esophagus. You look, you see. But if the trachea is cut over here and the esophagus cut down there when you open it up, you'll see maybe the inside of the trachea not going to see the inside of the esophagus. They're not They're not one after the other. You won't have a good way to look and see that they're both cut. Yeah? You have to like open up the neck by the incision of the neck to see both simanim. But if one sim is all the way down there, how you going to get to it? It's not It's one incision the neck. Somehow the knife got to the Take a look. First of all, this is a colmus. If you look closely you see this? It has a point like a cipher. Ah. He writes like that. So, that's what the Gamorah means, kokumas. Now, let's do it. I hope it works. Now, you might have your readings. You I'm going on an angle. I'm shafting on an angle like this. Ah. Not bad. No, no. Ah. It didn't Okay, fine. So, I shafted like this. You see it? It started down here and it ended up here. So, you have a lamata and a lamalo. It is a straight line. It's very straight. Almost. Yeah, okay, whatever. But, the point is that I have a lamata and a lamalo and it looks now like a like a writing instrument because it ended up on an angle. That's kokumos. And I have a lamalo and a lamato. Great. Slanted. Or you could just do Yoshi's picture, whatever you want. Where is it? Like this. You shafted that way and a lamela you end up with the kokumos. Okay? That's what lamalo and lamato means. It doesn't mean he shafted up here, the the the the trachea. It all the way down here, the esophagus. It means that there were it was one nice cut. So, since you have one nice cut, you could peek inside and see that it's nicely cut. That's mefurash. >> Like a downward motion, from up down. >> Yeah, up down or or could be also down up. >> But, that's good. >> Yes. >> Okay. Carry on. >> Thanks for the permission. I will tear this up. The Gamorah says that there was a once a bull who schechted the guy. You all know. It happened to my wife. It happened to your wife also, probably. You go to the hospital to give birth or whatever and they try to find poke. It happened to you, huh? You're shaking your head. You get that nurse that just started yesterday and she starts going like this. She sticks it in IV. No, no good. Pulls it out. Another time. It looks like you've been doing drugs for 6 months. Yeah, you know those schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel. You have a schnitzel that comes No, not good. Okay, let me do again. Poor animals. Ah! Yeah. He keeps on schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel. All right, but schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel schnitzel. Again, I'm okay. I didn't get a chance to ask um a good friend Shmuel Grossman from uh Chicago, but I remember he told me back in the day when he was running shallots that in the animal every animal has 1 lb of this kind of meat. The top of the best. I don't remember what it was. And a certain restaurant in Manhattan, they sell this thing, but they control the schitas. So, then he decided he's going to control his schita and he got his own what that 1 lb they could charge who knows what then it's the best meat, blah blah blah. This schnitzel this schnitzel. He went and he bought the best of meat the best meat that 1 lb. All right, Rabbi Zeira, and then Benny said that the skirt steak is only like a couple pounds per animal also. Okay. It's not the best of the best, but [clears throat] whatever. All right, Rabbi Zeira, by this that you just took from this animal. Again, this animal has cuts down his trachea. Top, 1 2 3. And he he bought it. He said, "I'm hired to bought it." So, he says, "Ah, the fact that you bought it." All right, Rabbi Zeira, Torah be with him. Just now he just taught us a lesson. That's exactly what the mission is talking about. What it says the two people shut down an animal means with two knives. We had all discussions. Two people with one knife or two people with two knives. Or maybe see two people two knives. Why? Cuz each one made a cut and it's okay. You're allowed to eat such an animal that has a bunch of cuts. If you buried hechlitz buried the knife, let me remind you the halacha. Where's halacha here? This halacha right? The original that we had in the first half of chulin we use it a few times. Burying the knife inside between simanim is a no-no. So here's the here's the case. You know she did beautiful here. He stuck the knife in between the cut and the veshet went downwards. At this point he did a big boo-boo. Why? That's called halacha. It's hidden. Now he he pulls the knife out and starts all over from the top. Too late. He did halacha. Then he went and he did the top one. I don't care that he did it well. Why? Because the bottom one he did it terrible. He did it halacha. So he he did it halacha with similar simanim. He put the knife in between the two simanim and he went downwards. It's called halacha. But if he hit it inside the skin something like this. He went he didn't cut the skin. You see he didn't go make an incision in the skin. He stuck it in and then he went down. So now the skin is hiding the knife. Kosher. This man says it's kosher. What was the here about this halacha? The new one we already learned he he stuck the knife in and he cut the second siman. You're saving on an availa. You're giving on a treifa. Regardless how you look at it, you can't eat this animal. It's either an availa or treifa. We already know that it's assur. It's possible. So, you might remember I said I have a minyan of 100 million mato l'malo. Oh, Reb Boi said, "Take a look. The mato l'malo. Let's see if he fixed it for me. Oh. If you go in the direction of the arrow, if you start from the trachea on the bottom and go upwards, that's not a natural way of doing shchita. Shchita is Firstly, you hit the white pipe, the windpipe, and then you go down to the to the to the feeding tube, whatever you want to call it, the food tube. Or where he started from the bottom, from the esophagus, from the veshet, and he went upwards like the arrow. Does I would think that's the problem. Only in that case it's a problem. The the reverse case is okay, I would think. He was in the army in the mato l'malo. The way he did the shchita, he didn't do it in a normal way, cuz usually you go from the top, you hit the trachea first, then you hit the esophagus. I'm in the malo l'mato. The way he did the shchita, but if he did chalada, but it was in the right direction, maybe it's okay. Maybe it's okay. Come on, shalom. Next sugia. Taches or achaira. You stick the knife into the skin, and then you go downwards. Like, where was that picture? This No, not this one. Um this one. It's underneath the skin. So, the Gemara brings an opposing shchita, or not opposing, but another one. Bei Rav Ami, taches or any idea. You know what? I don't know. I see there's a tzim here in the Shulchan Aruch. Interesting. We pass an idea. You buy low. The Bei Rav Ami taches or any idea. I don't know what the halacha is. Taches mato l'malo. What if I cover it with a a man-made fabric? Maybe it's that's not considered a kisui. Maybe it's okay. If you say that if you hide it, it's no good, so maybe man-made towel is okay. Now, what about another question? Sam and Masuda, what if the the sheep has a ton of wool around and you hit it in the wool? Mao. Maybe that's a Maybe that's a a problem. Is that a problem? Take So, Rashi over here says, and I'll show you the Rashi, the whole take you the is sura says Rashi the humra. Anytime you have a a a take or when it comes to shrita and a is sir, you have to be marked with it. So, since we don't know what the law is, so if I hide my knife underneath a towel in a shaft, take or so you have to be I have to be marked with it. I can't eat from that animal. Why are you a papa? Hechler me you see money Mao. This is fascinating. A guy does a shrita, you hear this? He does a regular shrita. And he cut right through the simanim. It should be perfect. But, he continued and he takes the knife and buries it under the simanim and comes from the other direction boop and he does a chalada. He buries the knife. So, what's the problem? He did a great shrita and afterwards he did a chalada. What's the problem? So, Rashi over here again you have to see this Rashi. Rashi says Hechler me you see money. Laches of the simanim. It is great. He did the right. No, I did not call the shrita. Perhaps it's one long shrita and like we said before I'm just saying as the melitza. I know shrita of the soif. You have to count the last part. This is a lot of that. And the mice are in the shrita there's a little bit of chalada. You hear this? Over me come up she's in the available lot. Okay, fine. I know the choir is I I the same question, why not? You did a right and then the last second you did a a drisa. It's one shita that you did a drisa. I don't know. I don't I don't see a difference. Says the Mishnah, take them. We had this case to remind the this guy he shifted a bunch of animals at one shot. 16 to be exact. None of them fall. The heads fall perfectly. It's great. Now, let me ask you something. Is there a problem with cutting off the entire head? Not really. Oh, ruin the knife. Yeah, that's the only problem. Yeah. So, and we explain this this Mishnah that's referring to just regular animals at home and the Remember we had the Sugya today. Two people holding onto knife. We said it means two knives, even two knives. Even if one cuts on top, one cuts on the bottom, it's kosher. Hit this she knocked off the entire head with a tool. Oh, so there's is a problem. No, but the problem over here is drisa. That's the problem. But if you do it nicely, back forth, back forth, and cut off the whole head, it's okay. You think you knocked off the whole head at one shot. So, the is going to explain that it means that if it has two knife lengths, this is a so I'm just saying how to learn it, but if in addition to the width of the neck, you have another width of the neck, then it's fine. If you're slaughtering two animals at the same time, so how long does your knife have to be? The length of two animals plus one more one more neck. In addition to what you had before, one more neck. In other words, it has to be three necks long. That's only because you went you didn't you didn't go BACK AND FORTH. IF YOU WENT BACK AND FORTH, I FEEL IT KOSHER, THEN your knife could be even a small little razor. I feel it kosher. I was going to say not less than a than a razor, but could be a razor. You could take a razor blade and go like this, back and forth, back and forth the whole go like this. Okay, it's a stickle terrible kind, but that's all you have. You're in the desert. Yeah, so you go like this. Says the Mara scalper. Menachem Eli, how do you know that's also to do Dreesa that we mentioned in the Mishna and you should go back and forth? Or as the Mara hates Shala the Shoynim, Mirma Deber. You draw an arrow and you shoot it. So, just like an arrow that you you draw back, so too Shrita is a draw back forth motion. It's not a downward motion. Real quickly, the famous Dubner Maggid. Just reminds me of myself a little bit, so I like it. The Maggid said, somebody says, "Rebbe, how do you always have a great martial for everything?" So, he says, "No, no, no, no. I'll give you a martial." The guy, he had a perfect shot. It happens to be that a mazel tov to Yossi Fix Noam's son is in the army and he scored the highest score in shooting out of 180 or something. Number one. I saw the thing number one. That was on a blackboard. Could be he erased somebody else's name and put his own name in there. Nobody came home with the early they got the whole thing. Fine. So This kid came from places. It's okay. So anyway, says the a guy shot arrows and like somebody asked him how do you how do you believe for 50 yards out you get you hit the the center the bull's-eye. He says no no no that's not how it works. I shoot the arrows then I paint the bull's-eye afterwards. So he says I come up with a great muscle then I find the name show for it. It's not that I have a name show and then a muscle. Me too sometimes I have a good story and I have no there's no shot to anything. Yeah, okay. >> [laughter] >> So I think tomorrow turn the baby small and the show the word means to pull to go back and forth. Like like drawn out gold you make like a string out of it. Then the brings the original that's like arrow that the arrow you have to draw to shoot. My volume why do you need all this it means it's woven like a string and I looked it up you can take a gram of gold and make a string out of it that's a hundreds and hundreds of feet long. If you do it very very thin even microscopic cuz gold doesn't doesn't break when you bend it. So okay, fine. Pushma. So if you think that if you say that this gold just means the string that's why for that I have another positive says that is like a like an arrow. You pull it back you back and forth. Lava so now we have a great muscle and a great video. Lava have a bottle of beer of Yona but the cliff. I love the name. I wonder if it has to do with the story but Lava checked the arrow for of Yona but the cliff. His name was Yona bird. The show about in the park. he was unbelievable. All these guys that do the clay pigeon stuff, they're a joke. As a bird is flying by him, a pigeon, we should hire him. He He could take it He could take an arrow and shot it midair. Hit right in the neck. As the Gemara wait a minute, maybe the arrow goes like into the neck from behind the simanim and then cuts the simanim. No, we see the way the feathers lay that it cut the front of the neck. Says the Gemara, but by kissuy, you have to cover the blood. Birds and and and chayas, you have to cover their blood? How do you do kissuy dam? Okay, after you after you caught it, you you pour a little bit of sand on it. No, that's not good enough. Beforehand, you have to put dirt on the bottom, then you shecht the bird, and then you pour more dirt. It's not good enough to put dirt on the top. >> [snorts] >> Says the Gemara, no problem. The Mazin lay ask every Yerushalmi, why is he throwing stones on Shabbos? It's muktzeh. He says, "No, I was mazmin all the stones in Yerushalayim beforehand so I can be mekuyem in the mitzvah of throwing stones in the streets of Shabbos." So here also, he was mazmin. He He He He said, "This whole field All this dirt over here on the field, I'm making it special for the kissuy dam." And then, one minute, don't close your Gemara. We have a great video. That's why I went all the way over here. The offer the cooler pascha. Okay, here goes the video. >> What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Menachem Donenfeld Joseph channel. Today we are attempting the arrow slaughter challenge straight out of the Jamoyre. So, what do we have here? A kit with three arrows. Interesting. Let's check it out. All right, arrow number one is designed to scatter sand for the Kisui Hadome. Amazing. [music] Works like a charm. Now, for arrow number two, it's perfectly sharp, zero flaws, and 100% kosher [music] for shechita. Boom! Looks like a hit. Yes, [music] yes, yes. I love it. And now we're sending the camera arrow to get a close-up of the hit and make sure the sakin [music] didn't get stuck mid-neck because it's halacha. Wait, what [music] is that? What am I even looking at right now? Where's the pigeon? Are you crazy? What do you think you're doing? Shooting arrows in the middle of a hiking trail? Throwing sand around? Knives? I'm calling the police. GET OUT OF HERE. All right, guys. It's an absolute mess over here. I got to fly. Peace. >> [laughter] [applause] >> All right. The voice I have a wonderful week. You should go over coming. Ah. >> Merit the schus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shiur today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected].