Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 3 by R' Eli Stefansky

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Just finished his first daf yomi. So, he's joined daf yomi in MDY after he rebuilt his shul in Toronto at the beginning of the month. Plus, we made a family siyum last night, and we prepared attached picture of Yossi. Yishar koach, and thank you for inspiring Yossi to grow in his limud haTorah. May Hakadosh Baruch Hu give you the strength to lead the Torah and daf for many years to come. With much appreciation, Zev Spitz. This, Reb boys I, was on Friday. It's unbelievable. We had over, well, maybe slightly under, 500 people live on Zoom, and on Well, it's much more than 500 people on Zoom. It was uh 250 on YouTube, 250 on Zoom. But, check this out. Some of the Zoom Each Zoom, look at this. Look at this. Bnei Brak. Uh Haifa. All these are all different satellite locations in the live. Beitar. Jumped out. They had over 40 people in Beitar, they said. Neve Yaakov. Every night looks like that. Telstone. Ashdod. What? Arb Shabbas, 3:00 in the afternoon. Tverya. Rechassim. But, one of them here. This This, Reb boys I, they got a big round of applause. Eilat. Check this out in Eilat. It's unbelievable. Tel Tzion needs a little help. This uh Reb boys I gave me chills for a second when I heard it, so I'll share it with you. It's very quick and I thought yesterday about the siyum that I did with Pesach Shaindy has to do with MDY. I came over with a kiddush. Klal Yisrael was screaming, "Lomdin Gemara. How come we can't enjoy it? Why don't we shouldn't Why can't we don't like it when we don't enjoy it?" Hashem sent down a Reb Eli Stefansky, and he was the one that brought the MDY to Klal Yisrael. So, he saved us when we were screaming, "Lomdin Gemara." >> [laughter] >> Lomdin Gemara. Oh, I forgot the email. I was supposed to email you something. I don't remember Seriously, I don't remember what it was. What was it? Do you even remember? >> Yeah, Berg's speech. Ah, Berg. Could you send me something? Cedarhurst satellite siyum in Chulin, daf beis learning. Ah. 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We're not We're not going to have There's going to be a There's going to be a levaya after. >> [laughter] >> His loom is not a loom. >> [laughter] >> It's one of your best friends that broke it, too. Get over here, best friend. And I was Okay, we'll tell you later. The force of Mordechai Menashe leader, Azarya's Listen. It's [clears throat] eitzim v'avanim. Literally, eitzim v'avanim. Sefiras HaOmer for force of Mordechai Menashe leader. Official edition MDY shas, the masechta. The entire masechta by Zev and Yael Shalhov. The perek by the Benedict family. The daf. Daf gimmel. Joel and Rachel Gedalious. In memory of Mary Gedalious, Miriam bas Chaim Zalman, aleha shalom. He also sponsored daf beis. David Solomon dedicated the masechta sponsors. David Solomon dedicated in memory of Reb Meir Reb Shmuel Boruch ben Chaim Tzvi Dov. I don't want to confuse the two things. There's the blue Gemara that that MDY puts out. It's called the official edition. 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Somebody came over to me and told me first of all when Menachem Toker Menachem Toker brought over 200 people to the daf just by putting it in the status. He saw they came to through his link over 200 people. But he says in his status, he says that Chulin is one of the hardest masechtas. No, it's not going to be hard and somebody came over to me after she says wow, this is a lot easier than Menachos. So about knives this shalom aleichem guys. What's your name? From? Shalom aleichem Reb but what's your name? From Spring [snorts] Valley. And you? From the chamber. Shalom aleichem. I know you you sit next to me in shul. What's your name? Ah, very good. You good learner. Very good. Okay, who else do we have here? Who? It's actually it's actually very heartwarming. Reb Dovid is back. Shalom aleichem. Um, okay. Yeah, Eli sat right over here. Sat in the hot seat. Very good. Ready to go? Reb boys I daf Today's daf gimmel. We're going to start from the bottom. So this is what we had yesterday. It's very clear. The first four words of the Mishnah Hakol shochtin u'shchitasan ksheira. So the first two are in green, second two are in red. First one green is go is l'chatchila in the first place these people could do shchita. >> [snorts] >> U'shchitasan ksheira is after the fact. Don't do this usually. >> [laughter] >> Now everyone thinks I did that noise. Great. >> [laughter and snorts] >> U'shchitasan ksheira is after the fact. So what we need to figure out is who could do shchita in the first place and who could only do it after the fact. We have six six shitos and we're holding all the way in the bottom of the base of the base. Two lines from the bottom. Shita number one >> [clears throat] >> was Rabbi Bar Eloi who says that we're talking about somebody who's tamei and he's trying to shecht Rabbi Bar Eloi. Here, let's see. Ah. So all you guys weren't here last night. This is sheretz. Leto, this is the number one tamei thing in the world. Everybody thinks it's a rat. No, it's this guy right over here. He's the number one tamei. He can do the shchita hell with a long knife. >> [laughter] >> So Rabbi Bar Eloi That's Rabbi Bar Eloi. L'chatchila somebody who's tamei could shecht a regular animal. What's the big chiddush? Big chiddush is cuz he's makpid as if it's a korban. Why? He wants to get used to dealing with korbanos eating korbanos when he's tahor. So even though it's tamei and accepted upon himself not and you can't shecht the korban when you're tamei that's for sure you can't touch it. >> [clears throat] >> So he's l'chatchila he's tamei. L'chatchila if he uses a long knife go ahead and shecht. Make sure you don't touch it. Go ahead and shecht. L'chatchila in the first place. So what's b'dieved? He's actually shechting kutchim and he's not supposed to shecht kutchim. But after the fact he shechted this $5,000 animal and he goes to the rabbi what should I do? I was tamei and I brought a korban and I shechted it. So the rabbi says did you touch it? He says 100% I didn't touch it. Without it. So then they say okay after the fact the rabbi will say it's a good korban. Throughout the Sugya we're going to have to see these three things. What what's the l'chatchila in the Mishnah? What's the b'dieved in the Mishnah? And then the next slide the kulan sheshachtu. The good news is that the Gemara repeats itself six times in a row, 30 words. What's the kulan sheshachtu? It can mean the cheresh shochtet be katan that we just mentioned a second before cuz then it would say v'im and if these cheresh shochtet be katan So what's the kulan? It must be what we're talking about. Like usually it's within what that shita is. So right now we're talking about tamei or kutchim? Oh, the kulan sheshachtu if they shechted kutchim and somebody saw it. The kulan sheshachtu we have to put the word there. And they saw the kulan sheshachtu and they saw somebody was watching there's a eid echad and the the shochet ran away. So we asked the guy that saw did you see if he touched the animal by mistake? No, he didn't touch the animal. Okay, then it's kosher. That's the kulan sheshachtu. Okay, so that's the first thing. Now the Gemara asks what kind of tumah are we talking about? What do we all see in the video? That he touched a sheretz. Why? Why why why do we see in the video that it's a sheretz? Maybe he touched a dead person. So for that we're going to see a beautiful halacha. Another chiddush gadol. Every day we learn new chiddushim. >> [cough] >> The way it works is and this is of course for the new people. Guys that were here for a year or so know this inside out and this is second nature. This is the chart of tumah. It goes in levels of tumah. The worst of the worst is avi avos tumah. Then it drops to av tumah. So a dead person is the worst of the worst. You can't get any worse than that. A sheretz is one step below. It's only av tumah. A person who touches a dead person who goes to a funeral and touches a dead person he's only a av tumah. He drops. That person that touched a dead person that touches food or uh another whatever it is keilim it drops one level to rishon. A rishon who touches uh food it drops to a sheini. Okay. So if a person went to a funeral and he after the funeral he decided to touch this knife. You guys need a knife for the bris? >> [laughter] >> We have a smaller one. We do. Some of you saw it if it's a whole Sugya you were going to talk now. See blood poop. Okay. Let me ask you something. Person [clears throat] went to a levaya. He's av tumah. Touches this. What does this become? It should become a rishon it should drop one. No. Big chiddush. This becomes what I am. If this touches a dead person this becomes a dead person. This becomes avi avos tumah. If a person who's a av tumah >> [clears throat] >> touches this so this becomes a av tumah. Asks the Gemara if this is av tumah and then you slice the animal with this you do shchit with this. So what does the animal become? One step less. One step less is one step less of av tumah is what? A rishon. So it became tamei. What did you gain by a long knife? You said oh if you use a long knife it's great. But you're tamei and you touched the knife and the knife is like you. In fact the same question could happen even if the knife is not like you. >> [snorts] >> The knife is you is is better. But let's say it's still it's still will be a sheini. So it may it's no good. So a rishon we can get it to be a rishon even if it drops level it could still be a rishon. A kol panim. So that's the Gemara's question. Hai tamei didmi b'mai? What happened? How how exactly is it tamei? Now this only applies Reb boys I and that's the chiddush of today. Another chiddush. This halacha I just told you is only when it has to do with dead people. But when a sheretz touches a knife the knife doesn't become a sheretz. It doesn't become av tumah. It actually drops one to a rishon. A dead sheretz. A dead sheretz. Always a dead sheretz. Yes. Always a dead sheretz. No, it was a puddle of blood. That's why I did a puddle of blood. Yeah. This is this is a little hot. Yeah, let me show you again. I here. We don't want to gross people out with dead shratzim. So here look check this out. He's in a puddle puddle of blood. Okay. looks alive but that's why put a puddle of blood. Fine. Next. >> [snorts] >> The knife has the same halakha as the dead person. Avatumu. So, he's an avatumu. He becomes avatumu. Letam letakin. So, then he he makes the sakin and the knife avatumu. The as a sakin tamit basar. Then the knife goes and touches the meat. So, the meat will drop one level from avatumu go down to a rishon. So, he's he's a rishon. Hello. A lot of people get so nervous when they hear the whole thing of tuma tahara. That's it. That was the whole That's basically it. It keeps on dropping levels and that's it. There's a few little variations and stuff, but that's that's the basic tuma tahara that a lot of people [clears throat] are not familiar with. Hello says the gemara of the tame besherets. The sherets is a >> [cough and snorts] >> av and the the and and the knife drops down to a rishon. The Right. The person No, no, no. The person right, 100% The person touches the sherets. The person becomes a rishon. Thank you. The person himself the avat The sherets is an avatumu. Anybody touches the sherets drops a level. Becomes a rishon. We could say that he touched the dead person or could go into We're not dealing with this kind of knife. And that's the question I asked yesterday. What if you do shrita with a plastic knife? Are you yotze? Yes. You can be yotze with this with a with a rock, with a with a piece of glass, with whatever you want. Then bemetzar with a rock. Bemis chukus. The shach brings down that it used to be the minag that everybody used rocks. Sefardi used a rock. Used a rock. Until David Hamelech threw a stone at Golias. And the rock asked permission from the metal to pierce the helmet. So, the metal said, "What are you going to give me?" So, he said, "I'll give you I'll I'll trade with you. You let me go in now and then you can become you can use knives for mila." The the the Who else brings it down? The Prisha brings it down. The hilchos mila. Okay? Huh? Mila, that's the point of him. Yeah. >> [snorts] >> So, just to review that video that we had the other day. Here we go. Just this part. And this explains the end of that video. >> [music] >> If the the gemara thought that he stands far away, it would be assur. >> [music] [music] >> He throws the water and then you got it. >> [laughter] >> Tahar tahar tahar. You think that was a little shickle of eye today to try to make me look better. I guess it's [clears throat] it's difficult. All right. Zog the heilige gemara. Tell you a real quick story. I just heard it. So, I'll share it from uh Rabbi Haber. He spoke he's he gave a drasha to us to the to the women of MDY. A story that's negiah to to to our perek. There's a boy who went for a farher in Philly by Rebbi Shmuel Weinberger and went with his father. And they come into the farher. Rebbi Shmuel asks him, "Nu, what are you learning?" He says, "I'm learning chulin." "What perek?" So, the father says, "Hashaichit." So, hashaichit so Rebbi Shmuel opens up and asks him all these questions on hashaichit. And the boy doesn't know a thing. Zero. He got a zero on his test. Reminds me of Binyamin Klein, no? What's his name? No, no. The guy from the dentist from New York. What's his name? Ben Klein. Ben Schwartz. Ben Schwartz. Tell you the story of Ben Schwartz later. So, he uh he he the father can't believe it. His son is like a good kid. He's a masmid. He knows his stuff about perek. He gets into the car. Father says, "What happened over there?" He said uh he farhered me on the wrong perek. He farhered me on hashaichit. He said, "So, why didn't you say something?" He says, "Cuz you said hashaichit. I don't want to I don't I'm not machlokes with my father. My father says hashaichit, I do hashaichit." He says, "But you're not going to get into Philly." He says, "That's kibbud av v'em. No, I don't want to embarrass time and you know in front of uh So, the the father calls up. He calls up Rebbi Shmuel. He says, "You're not going to believe it. The yeshiva my son didn't want to embarrass me, but it was the farher in the wrong thing." So, Rebbi Shmuel said, "Okay. He's such a kid. That that that's the type of kid I need." Now, of course, some of you are thinking of course he learned hashaichit. He just didn't know anything. He was a great So, apple pie came. I I would I would accept this guy because he came with such a beautiful chab of the kibbud av v'em and this. Just for that alone you have to accept him into the thing. Yeah, Philly is a top yeshiva. All right. What happened to Ben to Ben Schwartz? The all the way in the beginning he's with us. He's one of the the meiazem of the shiur. He sent in the email. It was it was mamish heartening. One of those first emails that were wow. So, he went to a brand new yeshiva. And uh his father said, "Okay, you we'll get you a tutor to help you out and do well." And the tutor they sat they learned the whole daf gemara. He was so he was pumped this farher. He's going to ace the farher. And uh he gets the farher and uh him and the tutor they learned the wrong daf. So, he fills in whatever he can fill in and the next day the rebbi gives out the test. Finally, he gets to his test and the rebbi says, "Whose test is this? He got a zero." And he answers, "Oh, it's a new guy." And then he's in a brand new yeshiva. He doesn't know anybody. And the guy embarrassed him in front of everyone and he just he didn't know where to bury himself. He said he never opened up a gemara. For 30 years he didn't open up a gemara. Today, he found the shiur baruch Hashem. Today, he has an hour a day where his wife doesn't let anybody into the office. There's a sign on the door. Do not disturb from you know, 1:00 to 2:00 whatever it is. You can't That's his kvius. No matter what, he's learning the daf that time. So, he learns the daily gemara. V'boi sayim alayim we said already. Abaya amar nu pshat. Again, we're trying to figure out three things in the mishna. The first four words. Hakal shartam seems like in the first place where shchita doesn't share seems only after the fact. But then we also have the third thing in the mishna. What's going on with if there's a a yid that watches it's kosher. What's going on over there? Says Abaya. And Abaya and Rebbi Shmuel say basically the same thing with a small variation. So, that's two for one. Abaya amar hakal shartam v'afilu kusi. We're talking about a kusi. A kusi is a a person who became uh there's a whole nation that came to klal Yisrael and they they became geirim. And there's a machlokes in shas whether they are geirei emes. Did they did they really become geirim? But later on they became a little bit more relaxed, but it's too late. Once you become a ger tzedek, so that's it. It's like a regular Jew. So, if you become relaxed, you relax. They you're over some or they're fakers. They only wanted to be part of the Jewish nation, but they were they were forced by the lions. The lions were killing them. So, they said, "Oh, we better do chuva. We better be They pretended to be geirim or real geirim." Abaya goes with the with the with the shita that they're geirei emes. Geirei emes would say that they are 100% fully geirim. And if they do shchita, we will eat from the shchita says Abaya l'chatchila in the first place on condition that somebody's watching them. Why? Because they are makpid on the de'oraisas. They're makpid on shchita. They won't touch something that didn't have shchita. The problem with the kusi mar that they're not makpid on the rabbonans. They don't have a problem with lifnei iver lo tisa michshol cuz lifnei iver lo tisa michshol means don't put a stumbling block. So, they don't put blocks in front of people. If it's not a block, if it's a pillow, they do put it cuz it says in the Torah don't put a block. They don't have a problem giving people treif. So, hakal shartam in the first place v'afilu kusi. Why? Cuz they're geirei emes. A maymar cuz you saw already with a gabba. But it's only when a Jew is standing right there watching. Avaya yotzei min ha'klal. Lo yishchat. But if you have a mashgiach like they have in a lot of places today, you can't afford a mashgiach that's going to sit there in the kitchen day and night 24/7. So, he comes in and out. Somebody comes in and out. Says Abaya, do not that that's not acceptable. Can't do shchita. V'im shachat. And this chotach k'zayis basar min ha'izlayah. You cut off a k'zayis. They also they have a problem with shiurim. So, make sure it's a nice big piece. Achal ayin motar. Do do the do the test. You know, the the poison test. There was a ma'aseh here in Eretz Yisrael where a guy was caught red-handed. What's the word I'm looking for? Spraying the houses, you know, the hadbara. Um exterminator. He was a fake exterminator. They caught him. So, he he did this calculation in his head. He said listen, they caught me. Now to do extermination illegally is a big problem. You go to jail etc. It's better for me to say that I stole than to say I was an exterminator. So he said, "What are you talking about? I don't exterminate. I just spray water." So you spray water, you're going to but you're not exterminating. So the guy wasn't a fool. He says, "Oh, it's water. Drink it. Take a cup of it." Okay? So if you if you trust if if this guy's going to eat it, he doesn't eat trayf. He he keeps all the races. So if he eats it then you could be so much on it after the fact. Okay? If he doesn't eat it then it's also to eat from shita. Now we're going to do this another five times. We're going to do it each time a little quicker. Let me show you over here on the just in the chart. It says in the Mishnah hotz mecheresh shoyteh vekatan. Besides the cheresh shoyteh vekatan who cannot do shita why because they mess up the shita. They can do shihya, they can pause, they can do drisa, they could they could uh go downwards instead of slice. They could do chalada, go in between the two simanim. And then it's covered and then cut. And then immediately afterwards it says vachulan sheshachtu. Grammatically it doesn't really work. What's the vachulan sheshachtu? These three people that we're talking about? No. If it's these three we'd say the im veim shachtu and if these three the cheresh shoyteh vekatan shachtu and somebody was watching them then it's good. The word vachulan is no good. We're going to see that question five more times today. Each time is a freebie of 30 words. Cannot do why? Shema yeshu, shema yedresu, shema yachalidu. Let's see the beautiful pictures again. This is what we're going to have today. This is also we have a special artist that didn't you didn't see him. He does this 3D stuff. This is chalada going in between the two simanim. So now right there that's where it's possible. Why because it's covered and you cannot do a shita that's covered. So there's a machlokes if covering with a let's say a scarf is considered covering but certainly if the animal itself is covering and then you do a shita that's for sure assur. This is drisa going downwards. And shihya is something like this. You do one siman and then you take a coffee break and then you come back and you do the other one. Says the Gemara vachulan sheshachtu achayo. So then we have to understand the third sentence in the Mishnah that if there was somebody that watched them then it's okay. Veim shachtu then it should have said different wording. Where what did I skip? We're talking about this right there. We're talking about the cheresh shoyteh vekatan. You're pretending the chulan and other people. No, veim. If these people that we just spoke about Al akusi. So so usually it goes back to the the shita. We're talking about the kusi. Abaye says we're talking about a kusi. How am I supposed to wait a minute? How could it be that you need somebody to watch them? The Mishnah is saying that if somebody saw it after the fact it's okay. No, but if somebody's standing there watching him afilu lachatchila. So let's see the shita of and the Gemara says kashya. Remember this kashya because the Gemara later on is going to say how come uh Rav Baruch doesn't say like Abaye? How come so-and-so does cuz there's a kashya on Abaye. It doesn't fit in so well. Here's Abaye's shita. This guy's a kusi. Veim agav if he watches him if Yisrael watches then it's okay. So now come on why is this lachatchila means a kusi? If a Yisrael watches him if a Yisrael yotzei venichnas yotzei venichnas goes in and out. Once in a while he shows up then you know sometimes they show up once a week, once a month, once a year. I don't know how it works exactly. But today with the video cameras it's a little different, a little better. Okay? Omar Rava I have a problem with what you're saying. Cuz nichnas veyotzei we know even today. Think about it in our days. Nichnas veyotzei is lachatchila or bediyavad? If you go to a restaurant and there's a there's a mashgiach that's nichnas veyotzei. He's not there in the kitchen. Once in a while he comes in. Is that lachatchila? Can you eat there lachatchila or bediyavad? Bediyavad? No? Yeah, it's lachatchila. It's lachatchila. Rava says I'll prove it to you that it's lachatchila. What's the problem? What you don't eat in the restaurant that that that has nichnas veyotzei? It's not bediyavad. Most restaurants are nichnas veyotzei. It's too expensive. Is there a mashgiach meeting there at all in every restaurant? I don't think so. Maybe they have video cameras that are that are to me the but not I don't think so. Wow. Omar Rava veyotzei lachatchila loy. I'll prove it to you. It's a it's a Mishnah in Avodah Zarah about non. It says hamaniach nachri bachalusoi. If you sell a bunch of wine and you leave a nachri an oved kochavim there Yisrael yotzei venichnas and you have a Jew going in and out mutar. Okay? What's the what's the what's the idea of nichnas veyotzei? Cuz I'm concerned that the guy not I'm concerned. The guy the guy is concerned that the Jew is going to catch him. The the hechsher guy the guy that's working in the restaurant is concerned that he's going to get caught. There's a a computer technician that went to fix somebody's computer. Sitting at his desk is fixing his computer and the the baal habayis comes into the room. So he stood up. So he says, "Why are you standing up? I'm a lawyer." He says, "I've been doing this for a bunch of years. He says, "I always pick around in people's history. This is the first time I went to somebody's history and it's clean. Mine was clean so I'm standing up for you." I I don't know but it's a good story. >> [laughter] >> Probably not. No, he had to to see where the problem came from. What bugs came. What Your letter if nichnas veyotzei even a selling wine we're not concerned about I'll show it but just show this is the older one. This is a um the the concern is that he's going to go into it and take some wine. And then what is he going to do? He's going to have to repair what he did cuz it it's obviously sealed, right? It's not an open bottle. So he's going to repair it. Then I'm not concerned. Why? Because he's going to get caught. It's it's going to take two hours until it dries this that. So that's actually what the Gemara is going to answer later on that what's the what's Rava bringing a raya from something that takes such a long time to lock? Where over here it's just a slice of the knife and he has reshus to shacht. Maybe he'll mess up. Says the Gemara They tell >> [snorts] >> they tell Rava chasam mikatonim yach. Does it say anything about that's mutar lachatchila? Hamaniach katoni. If he did it and he left the by himself it doesn't say you should leave him there. If you left him by mistake bediyavad then it's okay. We let you use that wine. El amar have another raya that nichnas veyotzei is okay. Ein choshevin yesh mashcha again we're talking about wine that's kosher and it's by the Let's say it's in his house. You don't have to sit in his house, live in his house in order to drink it. El amar pishyei tzei venichnas mutar. If he's able to go in and out once in a while then it's mutar. El amar Rava therefore I agree with you in principle that we're talk the Mishnah is talking about a kusi. How come shoychtim is talking about like like Abaye said? We're talking about a kusi in in the first place. But I'm going to fix what you said. You said that Yisrael is standing with a newspaper with two holes and you're watching the whole time? No. I'm saying that it's talking about a a Jew that goes in and out. Avu bomes shoycheiach if after the fact you found him there wasn't a guy there and you found out that the kusi did shita. What do you do? Choydesh kishayis basar you give him the taste test. If he could eat it acholo mutar lach assur. If he eats it great. So let's just see what Yosi did here. We have Rava now. He's nichnas veyotzei. >> [panting] >> He's a yotzei. He's nichnas. Okay. So Rava just changes a little bit. That's not that the Jew is standing there. He goes in and out. That's lachatchila. And if he if he if the there was no nichnas veyotzei and the the kusi did the shita so then you give him to eat. Now we have to understand the second the third thing in the Mishnah. What does it say? Uh a deaf mute and a shoyteh and a katan we had a demonstration here of a katan. We had a demonstration of a shoyteh. Basically I told her to look at the guy next to them. Daafilu diyev an amiloy. Then a cheresh shoyteh vekatan cannot do shita at all even after the fact. Why? Shema yeshu. What's going to help me? Maybe they paused in the middle. Shema yedresu. They went downwards. Shema yachalidu. They hit the knife. Vechulan sheshachtu achayo. And when it says in the Mishnah that if they checked and there's a a single witness, then it's okay. You know how it is if it's cut off if it's talking about the line before. I look good. We're talking about them. So, the word doesn't fit in. We should say And I could be talking about the Kusi. But he said before that if there's a the Mishnah goes in and out, it's okay. So, why do I need a witness to witness the whole thing? Cash is a good cash. Yeah, and that's why people don't say like Rava. Yeah, charts off. The the chart before had the same thing. Okay. That was the that was the cash. Um the coolest is shocked to is talking about the Kusi. Yeah. Yeah. We have to change the chart. Rashi Omer Yesterday last night's sheer was over was over at 12:30. So, I didn't I didn't get to sleep until after 2:00 for whatever reason. So, it happens once in a while, once in a blue moon, but my wife woke me up today, which is not a good thing. That means I didn't have a chance. I wanted to switch the charts. Rashi Omer okay, Tony. Another shot. So, I just want to point out while while we're here that Rava is actually fixing a buyer. You noticed. He says a buyer says Kusi. Rava also says Kusi with a fix. It's not a committee. It's but Rava himself doesn't really hold that. Rava himself is going to hold like Rashi because Rashi actually brings Rava as proof. So, Rava could go with Rashi. That's that's all I want to point out. Rashi Omer Tony. What's the case? How can again? Going back. What is these two things? How can it means in the first place go ahead and do it which is means only after the fact. What's going on here? What's going on here? Talking about a guy that went off the Derek. And he's a moment. Now, there's two types of moment. Two people that went off. There's people that do it because they enjoy trade. They enjoy whatever they're doing. And there's moment there's moment moment two different things. One guy is about Tyva >> [snorts] >> and he does it because he believes in the does he has a Tyva. So, a guy like that you could rely on him to a point. He's not going to be martial other people. He's not a guy but there's a guy that's a Russia. He does it. He doesn't he doesn't even like pork but he eats pork on Yom Kippur. Why? Stam. Lahas to upset. That guy you can't trust at all. So, here's that's the older one that that a burger is $3.99 but a kosher burger is $10.99. So, so he goes to McDonald's. But when the the right next to each other and they're both $3.99, why you going to McDonald's? Cuz you're a lahas. So, says Rashi, we're talking about a moment and a moment could shock in the first place. I could be so a moment. It's a big hack in in always was since I'm a kid about moment. Some of them are not such big You are shamayim. You know every place that you go, you always have a guy or two that who knows what. They're doing it for the money. They do this. So, moment of my We're talking about a guy who went off. He's he's bad in certain things areas in the Tyra but he does it because he is about Tyva. But the Rava, you see? It says this goes according to Rava. So, Rava could actually this could be Rava. Not only Rashi. Rashi is the one that wrote the Gamara. He's the last from the last time of Ryan. Rava was way before. But this could go not way before, before. The all my Rava is from moment. If you have a Jew who went off and eats the veil as because he has a Tyva. But it's exactly nice and light. You do but it's one of the things I don't like to do. It's basically I'm going to do it on the other side. You go like this. You run your today. You run your thumb like this. Seven and a half years old. Really? Yep. It's in my Oh, this is so we have something like that. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, just too much. Let me see if it's a Rava. Rava cash. No, this is also bad. Cash is bad. Doesn't say what it is. It say Kusi Kusi. I'm both a buyer and Rava. Anyway, whatever. We'll deal about the seven and a half years. Oh, I left it as a cash. Ah, so this is actually this actually explains the why they don't hold with him. How come how come Rashi doesn't go with this? Cuz cash cash here. Very nice. Oh, I like this. I would have had it last night. You can have it back. You can sell it. You put in your thing. But it's actually nice and light. I'm main. I'm you're allowed to eat from him. Why? Because he's he's not going to do with me evil. He believes in a stumbling block. He's a firm guy. Some of them may miss the car. He told me he's not from right now but he's a gronic. He's a gronic. He said it with pride. He's a gronic. He said I'm something. What? He said I'm something. He's getting mad at somebody. What are you doing? I'm a gronic. What are you Yeah. >> [snorts] >> I believe he says he says you know it's very annoying. The comes to them and say you want to put on film. He says get out of here. I'm a gronic. Get out of here. I believe I believe >> [laughter] >> I believe She knows. I believe I believe I believe I believe lawless If he didn't do it but he got laugh laugh. Rinse straight and I have no idea. I believe I believe I believe I believe lawless. We but it's like a grab. So, what's the part of the mission? The the is if you give him a knife but it's like and you give him a good kosher knife. Go ahead shock cuz you're not a you only moment of the other. But if you didn't check the knife lawless. He shouldn't do it. He shocked it. But he didn't listen. He grabbed it. He shocked but it's again after. So, he checked it afterwards. This is the other. But if the knife is good, you're allowed to eat the and laugh also the other. Now, we here we go freebie. The coolest is shocked to the highest. We have to understand the words of coolest shocked to either it's referring to the other I look good. The mission is talking about it. So, it should just say the other. And I saw moment. So, now we're going to take Rashi's shot. We're talking about a guy that went off. Eat the second and if they check the knife how much the other could be even in the first place. I bought that. He didn't check the knife. This is the second of the cash. What's the problem? Check it right now and if this is the knife is good, it's good. We didn't listen to the second and if there's no knife he can't have it. So, what good is it that somebody else saw it afterwards or at the time? Do me a second shock it. If somebody witnessed, he doesn't know whether the knife is good or not. He witnessed the shock it. Maybe he's using a knife that has a a little dent in it. A nick. And a little nick is a problem. Why? It's equal. You could pull the We'll we'll talk about it. We'll pull Don't worry. We'll get there sometime. But the problem is equal. Turning of the death. Another shot. Rashi and these are these are the last two shots them. Phoenix live in Arizona. Wow, shalom aleichem guys. Beautiful. Keep it up. You give us a lot of people there. Wow, beautiful. Live in America. They're probably are they in flappers also? And then master fish whatever. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. They were they were live. No. Rashi Omer we're going to have two Rashis. Slight variation in Rashi. So, there's two things. Two two two types of This is it. This is who is a moment in you knows all the inside out. When I when I first met fish our official it the the amount of Tyra that he knows and then and then he quotes from this one and that one. You do like this and just tremendous lucky in a locker. And then there's a a guy who did it at least three times and he didn't faint. So, that's the difference between the two of us. One he starts off the is on a person who's a moment in a locker. Another one is a a moment. Let's see. I have a moment if you know all the you could shock in the first place. Moment of even though you never proved yourself. You never shocked it in front of us and we don't know if you faint or not. I I I give him a fair and he knew everything well. I believe I believe lawless. But if he doesn't know then he shouldn't do it. But if he did do it but he didn't know it. If he didn't know it if after the fact we gave him a fair, you have to know what's enough for me to when you give him the fair at the end of the day. You know the it. I also if you didn't know the then you're not allowed to eat. Here this is a day. Hey Jim, you missed one good of a here. We're talking full and them. This guy is a day. >> [snorts] >> Eat this now. I You expect me to eat from my own shiksa? I can't. I'm milk egg. I just ate butter cookies. I'm vegan and vegetarian. >> [clears throat] >> I started a diet this morning. I've got to lose this gut after all the food at those MDY seums. Interesting. Okay. Is Ravina Rav Boise is Ravina? He knows that a lot of his men have a shiksa. Remember we had Mordecai, the guy from Texas that I ruined his cowboy hat? If he showed a little blood during shear, he faints he faints during shear even on on on on a screen. So people have that so you have to make sure they don't faint. What is it going on in the kosher we're talking about it. The word Ella so it's going into Ravina according to Ravina does that part is talking about people that are not they don't know that a lot of this. As the why if you give him a little fair afterwards it's enough. So it's the last because then the day is not here. Big army. In Ravina itself second shot of Ravina. All my Ravina said we can all my this is what this is the shot. If you saw that guy shiksa in front of you three times. Then it's a good even though we don't know if they have they know that a lot of this or not. If a guy shiksa three times in front of you he didn't he didn't faint. This guy this tough guy. >> Don't forget you're not allowed to faint during the shiksa. But you're a tough guy. I'm certain you'll succeed. Obviously piece [music] of cake. Then here. [snorts] I bought you a brand new shiksa knife. Good luck. Yeah yeah we're going to laugh at him one day. OOPS. >> [screaming] [laughter] >> FAINT. MAN IF A person It happened to me my sister I was walking in O'Hare airport. The floor is like stone like like a cement wall and the two people next to me all of a sudden one guy just stops pauses falls backwards completely loses consciousness hits his head in the concrete. I thought he died whatever. Three seconds later. He sits up. Gets up and continues walking. So like sir um I I think you hit your head on the concrete. He had no idea what I was talking about. No clue. He just he he came to he was on the floor so he decided to pick himself up and start continue walking as if nothing happened. Rav Meir says Rav Meir he was buried also. Buried I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't faint. I just saw you I saw your head crack the the concrete. No. You must sugar. He thought I was nuts. Shiksa [snorts] shiksa. That guy is shiksa shiksa that I feel that he have a lot of luck. Oh. Mama's freebie again. No it's unbelievable the mama does this again. Shiksa is possible because they could pass it. We call him shiksa so we have to know what the third line in the mission is. You lay my cotton we're talking there. We say different word. Ella shiksa. We're talking about somebody who didn't do it three times in front of us. But I mean that doesn't make sense because you said that if he says I know for a fact that I I'm I'm good um I know for a fact that's enough. So the lesson we can't ask him. So now the just goes one by one. Let's see. What's Ravina two? I didn't see this yet. Oh Ravina two means that he doesn't he doesn't faint. >> [snorts] >> But he doesn't know that a lot of this is upside down a lot of this. He's looking at the book. A lot of this okay fine. So let's see this whole thing. What's what? I don't know. Oh here let me try to get him. So now I have the whole thing together. I don't know if it'll help or not but Ravina Ravina is the one that says we just finished Ravina talking about he's a he knows that a lot of this doesn't know that a lot of this. He he faints he doesn't faint. The Rav the first shot that we're talking about in the first place somebody was telling me. They don't say like a buyer. A buyer and Rav both say what we're talking about a Rav says we're talking about a guy that went off the why? Because shalom. The whole lot. The whole lot how do you explain the whole lot? Nobody had a good answer for that. How come no one says like the first shot? We're talking about in the first place he's he's shiksa the whole lot. After the fact with the bed. I I didn't realize I'm saying he's here on the morning of his kids bris. It's a big thing. Seriously that's the army. My my first kid by by the bris was very busy all night up this that is going to bris what I say is prepare speech learning was one of the last thing I was thinking about then. Okay shiksa the new generation Zevy the whole lot. Okay so if you remember in we even mentioned it today in the morning right when we started there was two shiksas two maybe we didn't I don't remember anymore. What? Our mission that talks about when the mission talks about the same exact case. So there's two the mission is the main over here is just or our mission over here is the main and that's that the mission says either one you could argue with and that's why they don't like that shot of the the person is the what? That our mission is the main source of the because it's we're talking about so we spoke about somebody other over there is the main part. The over there we're talking about we're talking about somebody shiksa shiksa. We say that shiksa is the main part. Why did you tell me over there it's only because we said shiksa so we're talking about tell me shiksa. This whole thing is wrong why? Shiksa [snorts] lucky shiksa. The whole shot is because a person who accepted upon himself to treat mundane things like something that's it has that a lot of but I don't hold that. I hold that if you try to treat it you can't treat this this like shiksa doesn't work. So you can't treat a whole lot of animal like shiksa. The Ravina and everybody doesn't agree with the Ravina's shot that we're talking about somebody who knows that a lot of this well or somebody that did it three times. Lucky shiksa in the first shot in Ravina [clears throat] that we're talking about in the first place if somebody knows that a lot of this even though he didn't prove himself he could shiksa. Shiksa lucky Ravina because anybody that deals with shiksa knows his stuff he knows that a lot of this and you don't have to give him a test. Lucky shiksa and if you say in Ravina we're talking about somebody who didn't faint three times. >> [clears throat] >> We're not so concerned about people fainting. Rav how come Rav doesn't say like a buyer that a we're talking about a and his this guy standing there because he proved that you don't need that that if a person is that's good enough. A buyer that we're talking about a that's don't prove to me from the wine that takes two hours to to to to seal and and and and and what's the word and use a you going to use that hair dryer and all it's a big process to get the seal well good and then he's worried that somebody's going to walk in on him. So over there the the guy doesn't have a touch the wine and he's scared he's going to get caught red handed or over here he has he has permission to do the shiksa. Rav who says that we're talking about a he doesn't say like a buyer and Rav because they are the same. They're both a buyer and Rav are talking about they are not real they don't have the right to shiksa. A buyer Rav doesn't say like Rav that that he's a Rav. What? You don't have to say that in Rav. You're pushing Rav to You say Rav doesn't hold that each of them also the other one's reason. You can say Rav doesn't hold a Rav because Rav and he doesn't hold of a buyer because shiksa. You don't have to push him into Okay but he does it's much easier. It's much easier. You're making a that that that the shiksa are you miss. You don't have to maybe three out shots he holds it I don't know. By the way Rav wrote this. He knows what he's talking about. Rav I hold I hold I I'm telling you. He wrote the Rav. A buyer [snorts] Rav Rav says. And a buyer doesn't say like Rav we're talking about a he holds the Rav. Because he doesn't hold that a Rav could shiksa. A Rav my my but why does Rav hold that a Rav could shiksa? Why doesn't he say that? He says 100% he does. A Rav is going to say that shot that our mission is talking about a He could shiksa if you're standing there. And so why do you say it's talking about a the buyer call my he's just trying to fix a buyer. You a buyer say it's talking about a don't say it's talking about a it's talking about a doesn't hold that Rav have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the zchus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shear today. Enduy.sponsor.com or sponsor.enduy.org.com. >> [music]