Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 23 by R' Eli Stefansky

Amen. >> [chanting] >> Amen. Amen. >> [chanting] [singing] >> Amen. Amen. >> [chanting] >> Amen. Amen. >> [music] >> Amen. >> [chanting] [singing] >> Amen. [singing] Amen. >> [chanting] >> Amen. >> [singing] >> Amen. >> [singing] >> Amen. >> [singing] [chanting] >> A good walk up Wilson. Finish my mirror welcome welcome. How's everybody Yom Tov? Smart. We had children here. On Yom Tov itself was unbelievable. People came Shamshi walked over an hour uphill they said it's all uphill getting here no? Both ways. >> [laughter] >> Both ways. You should go out for all those who walked in all the way from Gimel and from all different places. Should go out. You should go out to Gary who organized the food. I don't know who else did I know I did. >> [applause] >> Beautiful spread mom it's good stuff good stuff. There was par of there was par of ice coffee I mean it was regular what? Par of it. Right in in Hebrew it's par of it. All right so you should go out you should go out to all the guests shalom aleichem. It's a new a new a new man. The voice says so this is day one of Morocco somebody as I was walking here and I was trying to think of what to say so this guy comes over to me is hacking me and then he hacked me again but but he was very very what really bothered him is how come I didn't bring anything about Morocco. In this year. I'm on Shavuot. How come I didn't mention Morocco in Shavuot? So here this is for you. Day one. It's for all those who went to Morocco. To relive it all those who are thinking about next year. >> [screaming] >> We're here in Marrakech. We're having such a great time. >> [music] [music] [singing] >> Live from Marrakech, Morocco. >> [music and singing] [music] [singing] >> All right, give all back. I got to tell you I don't know if who I told this to, who I didn't, so I have to say it again. We had a guy, he was the mashgiach. There's two guys that we hired for all entire trip, 7 days or whatever it was. They went with us from beginning to end. One of them, Yossi Klein said he has to be at my side. So, he took it literally. So, day one, whatever I said, I I apologize. Day one, I told somebody, "Hey, stand over there, take a video." And I started running backwards, forwards, I was going around in circles, he's right there with me. Fine, so he became But, he had something special. Anybody that said free Palestine to us, he walked over them, whispered something in their ear, we don't know what. And the guy goes and start running. Running, didn't stop for two blocks. >> [clears throat] >> He'd go over like let's say like a moped wanted to like go between us. He goes over to the guy, whispers something in the guy's ear, the guy goes >> [laughter] >> Just complete fear. We don't know what he said and what he did. Any peddler that try to sell us anything, whether it's try to collect money from us or sell us uh soap, walks over them They're gone. Like nobody spoke to us. He was he had a he had such People were I don't know what it was. In the video you saw that we did this horse wagon thing. So there's a There was a moped. I was in the last one. There's a moped I said this maybe I don't know when I said this. When did I say it? In sheer? Was it recorded? It was recorded? Okay, so I'm not going to say it. Fine. Dear Reb Eli, I'm 10 years old and I have done 125 dafin with MDY. I started at the beginning of Menachis, but this is the best part and I love it. I love it, he says. Tzvika Rabinowitz, Gateshead, UK. Did I read this also? Who knows? The refreshments, that's uh oh, it's a different daf. We can say this. This is the Loftus, in honor of his parents, and the Mishnah and all the children and grandchildren. I did show it. I printed it. 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Carl sponsors K Adventures and for success of all our clients and Yummy Daniel Rosenfeld brought the blessing. Monthly MDY kids sponsor the CS of Faga and Rifka Bas Chaya. MDY art for the month Jonathan Ethan Ben Brocha for Solomon Mordecai Ben Esther for Daniel Ben Esther. Today is DAF What DAF are we doing now? Gimmel Chav Gimmel good. So holding seven lines from the bottom by zero. And these questions are very very similar to each other. These DAF are very very similar in terms of the structure of the questions the Chaimers. A lot of freebies the entire Sugyas are freebies basically. Boy, Reb Zero. What? We have to be out of here by when? 12:00. 34 minutes. 34 minutes? Ah, that's more than enough. >> Simon came to the share and said, "Great question." This is the only time he actually said that this true. All right, one question, that's it. Boy, Reb Zero. Oy, may I have a light? Oy, I have a toy room. Oy, men beneath you all know. So, we know toy room are the mature, the adults. Beneath you all know, are the little guys. Behave it clean as a seal of Shiva Zev Shiva Zev. The mission tells us that once it starts turning yellow, you can't bring either the toy room or the beneath you all know. And he, this guy decided to bring the birds when they start becoming yellow. He said, "I'm going to bring either adults or the chicks, the babies." And he brings like the in between. And this puts us in a sug ya of the in between. I said already before that the the children of Ramat Beit Shemesh are in between children. They don't know any of the hair. They're not Israelis and they're not Americans. They here in Israel, they're not accepted as Israelis. And when they go to camp in America, everybody calls them Israelis. It's a It's So, somebody came over to me said, "You should know, it's actually a a thing in the psychology world. They're called Yaldei Beit Shemesh. It is a thing." It's a known thing, okay? So, it wasn't anything. So, the question is, this bird, what do we have? Is Is it a third stage, a stage of turning yellow? Or we just don't know what it is. And then they love we don't know what it is. And And this guy brought two of these. He brought a dove that's yellow and a pigeon that's yellow. So because if this bird is considered a baby, so it's a baby. It's considered an adult, it's an adult. So he's either on the tire side or on the side. But either way he was but if it's a third category of a yellow a yellow pigeon, then he's not it. So I can have a the nothing. Do we view a a yellowish bird as a and then they love why is he he brought a yellow dove and a yellow pigeon. Now if you're going to tell me a yellow bird is a baby, okay, so he brought a and if you're going to tell me a yellow bird is an adult, so he brought a tire. Either way he was it. But I do not know. It's a third category. But I do not know. He said he's going to bring I realize means I am not either I'm going to bring birds. I'm going to bring either tire him or he didn't bring either. He brought he brought them between stage. I'm going to smash. Try the seal. This possible right over here it says the minute the word men is extra. What do I do with it? Try the seal with the service with the show possible. The possible comes to tell me that when it starts becoming yellow, whether it's a dove or pigeon is possible. Yeah, we are having a shopping. It makes sense that you need a possible to tell me that category three is no good. But if you're telling me it's not a category, it's just you don't know what it is, it's a problem with the speaker. I was going to tell you something that you don't know. You shouldn't know you shouldn't bring. Why not? Clavish Shmaya knows that it's either an adult or it's a it's a chick, so it's good either way. So, why would the possuk say that the soffek is no good? Says the Gemara, "You're right. You're right." >> [clears throat] >> There is no possuk to tell me min this possuk right over here min a Torah is not coming to tell you that a yellow bird is possul for a korban. No, it's coming to tell you that if somebody had relations with this bird or somebody took this bird and used it as a avoda zara, you can't bring it as a korban. Now, why would I ever have a havana you could bring such a bird? It's a disgusting kind of bird. Why would I have a havana you could bring it as a korban? So, Gemara says, "K'siv kimashchusam bahem mum bom." By korbanos it says "mashchusam hashchasa." The lashon of hashchasa is a lashon of avoda zara or arayos. The Torah is very small. You should have hashchasa. I never had avoda zara or avoda zara. It's either arayos or avoda zara. The Torah says "k'siv kishchus kol basar ha'aretz." We see by the mabul hashchasa of all animals. Avoda zara and that's arayos. Avoda zara d'ksiv "p'sach sh'chusam asher lo ha'pesach." Kol sh'amon posul bo d'var avoda zara posul bo. And the mail in the same possuk says "kimashchusam bahem mum." The word mum together with hashchasa. So, maila kol sh'amon posul bo d'var avoda zara posul bo. Anything that a mum is a problem. So, where is a mum a problem? By beheima. By a by a large animal. A mum, broken leg, you can't bring it as a korban. So, maila I would say that the hashchasa also has to do with the mum. So, when there's avoda zara and there's arayos, that kind of animal you can't bring as a korban. Because she ain't mum posul bo and d'var avoda zara posul bo. But, the bird where there's no problem of mom. So maybe there's no problem of arising of a desire. A zachor in a cave of by these birds. Right? Went through this whole thing that this year I discovered there's no such thing by pigeons. No such thing is that it's a physical thing. It's not There is no zachor. There's no You can't look at it with a microscope not a microscope. We can't see anything. There's nothing there. So but there's also no tamas. Tamas means that there's no such thing as being whole or not whole. So we already discussed this. By the way, I'm I'm confused because I'm Yes, when was it? Erev Yom Tov and Yom Tov night I did a total of six shiurim. Two were repeats and four were recorded. So I have no idea what I said and what I didn't say in what shiur. No clue. So you better tell me if I said this or not. I'm pretty sure I said the the eagle thing with the eagles with the feathers, right? Did I say the Reb Shmuel Birnbaum in both shiurim? Yes. What didn't I say then? A night, but it was a recorded. >> [clears throat] >> No. Uh uh So you're going to ask somebody what If I can't remember, maybe you can remember. Reb Shmuel Birnbaum's story that he he gave a brocha to a girl. You didn't hear it? You were here both shiurim? What? Khabaze in English? In English? Oh, so I'll say it. I'll say it here to record it. It's a miracle of my son. I knew him very well. I knew him. I saw him. I watched him learn many hours. I probably said two words to him my entire life. But he was the receiver of the mirror in Brooklyn. And he's known as the master of the door, one of the biggest master of the mirror in the door. I didn't measure exactly, but that's what they said about him. Like he is he never never stopped learning. He was always always with husband. His son went to collect money at some person's house and the guy says, "I want to give you a very large check." So he says, "Why?" He says, "Because of your dad my wife is alive now and I we had a great marriage and a long distance." He says, "What's this? Is your father gave her a brother that she should live?" He promised my mother she's going to live. So the son says, "I know my father. He's never done something like that. It's not true." >> [clears throat] >> It's impossible. He's He's a what's the what's the Shiva? He doesn't make a promise. He says, "No, no, let me tell you what happened." Says, "Your father was sitting Shiva and the Shiva was over and he he was in such pain that he didn't he wasn't learning and that's by the way a lot of people after Shiva they come to me and they tell me the the one thing that I cared about all Shiva was the death. Didn't do the death the death. But don't worry about it. I'm not going to make it up. I skipped ahead and and most people do make it up. They tell me, "No, I really did and I do two deaths a day whole thing. I'm already caught up basically. Fine." So I'm going to miss itching to learn. He walks out of the Shiva. He's walking towards the Shiva and this woman stops him. She says, "Shiva." She says about herself, "Her daughter is very very sick with a macula. Can you please come in for a minute and give her a brother?" So he's going to say no. So he says, "Okay, fine." So he walks up and and he gives her a bracha and the mother says, "No, no, no, no, no. I want the Yeshiva the Yeshiva should give me aftacha that she's going to live." He says, "No, no, no aftacha. No, I don't give it." Yeshiva aftacha. She positioned herself by the door, you know. >> [laughter] >> So, aftacha? She says, "No, no. No, could you uh I need to go alert." Aftacha. Kids that she made him crazy and Reb Shmuel was crazy, so to speak, to go learn. He wanted to learn. He was just dying to learn. She says, "Sir, aftacha. Aftacha." But but but I have TO TALK THAT SHE'S GOING TO GET a good shidduch the whole so. No, no, no king of tuckets. Kids the whole story all over again. And finally, he caved in and he gave her the bracha. I think it was like another thing. I forgot what the third thing was. And off he runs to the base marriage and he starts learning with his kavusa. And then he tells his kavusa, "Wait a minute. I got I got to go to the side." So, his kavusa said he's never seen the Yeshiva go to the side. So, he follows him and he hears Reb Shmuel Birnbaum say, "Abayin Rav, you know that I'm your biggest fan. You know that I missed you this whole week. Don't let me down. Don't make a Don't make me make a chillul Hashem. I promised this woman Do me a favor, take care of it. Take care of it." And he goes back to his kavusa to learn. That was the maiseh. Okay. Huh? But I said it when? It was night. That doesn't count. What happened? People were walking behind me at Shavuos night. We had a sitter here Shavuos night. It's not what's not on video doesn't count. Wasn't recorded. Okay. Baruch Hashem. Okay, good. And Willie didn't hear the story, so it's good I just for him. It's a good story, no? Then we sing the song about a brother. We're not going to do it. We're not going to even say it out loud. How's the song go with a brother? No, that part. That No, but what are the words before that? Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, [singing] yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, maybe that was the words. No. Okay. The what? That since there's no such thing as as a moon by a bird, and there's no such thing as So maybe I could take a bird that somebody worshipped have a desire to it and bring it as a carbon. Come marshmallow, and that's what the possuk may not tire him. That's what it comes to tell us that you cannot. But there's a very important rash here that I want you to see. Rashi says over here Here possible moment. Let me see that for a second. The bag. Let me see. >> [laughter] >> It's edibles. Come on. Help them out. >> [laughter] >> Not in a bag, my friend. Not in a bag. Not in a crunchy bag. Just looking at the Now see if you're going to sit right over here, you got to know the rules. What it says? It's his edibles. Maybe I should have one. Let me check it out for a second. Do you want one? HOLD ON A SECOND. THANK YOU. DO NOT BRING THERE'S no bags allowed in this room. There's no noises allowed in this room. Breathing is Cataracts are not a problem. Why moving down? Listen to this. Can't you up to the base of Migdash with a bird without a leg? Why? calls is Rashi. It's not because of the problem of the mall. The problem is So this is a good This guy Israel came here one Friday. Brought me a tray of candy. Put it by his seat and he walked to the back to get a coffee. He comes back. And what are you showing me? Oh, that I don't know. Garrison is saying something on the screen. So a kid came and he thought it was for everybody. He put his He took you out half the candy. Whatever was one one tray, one one compartment. He was very very destroyed. When he walked in, he was he was not himself. He said, "What what happened?" He said, "I wanted to give you this. I can't give it to you. That's it." I see this like Okay. This is a kid took a few ca- No. The next week he comes to my house with a tray. He came up the stairs. He said, "I can't bring it to the basement anymore. Here the I can't guard it like that." He gives it to me. What's the point? >> [snorts] >> You can't give somebody a half a a gift that's missing a half the candy or 10% of the candy. There's a hole in it. It's not good. So, if you can't give them a good cheer a tray like that, you can't bring to by who a bird that's missing a leg. It's a passover. It's not because of the mom. It's because of a queen and all of that stuff. The famous possible you bring something like this to the to the ruler of the city? No. So, you can't bring it to the ruler of the city, you can't bring it to the body slightly. >> [clears throat] >> Zog. Zog to my boy I'm there. I'm here. How are you like all this behavior So, now we're doing the same so good again basically. Oh, let let me show you I don't even have to show you. If I show you this picture, you know what it is. I don't have to show the whole video. We just showed it. So, I'm not going to show it. Boy, I'm there. A guy says I'm going to I take upon myself to bring in a behavior from what? What type? You know, I am in a cave. Cave is is up to 12 months old. I am is from 13 months on. What about between 12 and 13? Between 12 and 13 is called a How good is a good shamish kid? The heavy power good smell is going to start calling the shamish kid power good smell. How good is As real your power good smell. No. Where where is he from? He is fine. Fine. Okay. Power good smell. Oh, so we have this. This is the older one. You know, let me show you the new one first. Or No, let's let's do the so good then I'll show it to you. I leave it there by the way I have it. Going to be a good one. You know, you also by bringing a power good smell because it's a brief in the It's a third category. It's not a kevis, it's not a ayil, it's called a palgus. This non He kriva if you bring a palgus to the base hamikdash, what are you doing in terms of the nisachim? Now, to remind the oilam, we learned a lot about this in minachus. This is just one The guy on the right is a kevis, he brings one isaron solus. The guy all the way to the left is a ayil, brings two isaron ishranim. So in terms of the the the flower, very different, double. Double if you're a ayil. In terms of the wine, instead of a quarter of a a revias, you bring a third, you bring a shlishis ayin. Okay. So you brought a palgus, what do you bring? So what you bring is, you bring like the ayil all the way to the left, you're bringing the same amount of wine, the same amount of of flower, great. He kriva maybe a love nischa ayil oilam but you weren't yoitze, why? Because he said either a ayil or kevis, you brought a palgus. Var Rebbe Akiva, I'll tell you why, oila ayil Rebbe says it's a palgus. So over here, Rebbe Akiva is saying in the possuk it talks about a palgus, so that means it's a breva at the oilam. The possuk is not going to be talking about a savik. Possuk is talking about a breva at the oilam, it's a new category called a palgus. Kide Rebbe Rebbe Pado, the Rebbe Pado base, according to Rebbe Pado, the maisu masni says Rebbe Pado, what do you do? You bring all the the the the two ishranim, let's say a flower. You bring that to the base hamikdash. You say, "If my palgus is an ayil, so the two ishranim of flower for for it. But if my palgus is really a kevis and I was supposed to bring only one isaron, so one isaron goes to him and one isaron is just an adava." He makes a tnai. Me I'm being a ayil or a kevis masni really masni and he doesn't even mention the the that that he's a breva, that he's a palgas, that he might be his own category. I do agree in having master. Perhaps he also talks about the fact that he might be a third category called the palgas. And there's zero flower for palgas. It's not mentioned in the Torah anything about a palgas flower. The Amar brea have a love of cooling in the dove. The whole thing should be in a dove take all. We don't have an answer by say. Here's a video for tonight. >> [clears throat] >> Professor Ayala, he's a psychologue, he's a psychologist. On the one hand, everyone constantly treats me like a child. But on the other hand, I'm already 17. That is not a kid anymore. Yes, I know that struggle very well. It's exactly what I went through when I turned 12 months old. On the one hand, I wasn't a kid anymore, but I wasn't a ram either. >> A ram? >> [screaming] [screaming] >> It's called the palgas complex. It's palgas complex. Very good. Okay. One minute. I want to show you this other palgas thing that we did a long time ago. I am not a keves. I am not a oil hill. I'm reminding you he is not 13 years old. He is 13 months old. He finished his first year and started his second year. Got it? >> [music] >> But my messachim just like I knew. We almost forgot about that one. Had to remind Yossi. Had no idea what I was talking about. >> [snorts] >> Okay, Zotikmar. Oh, it's sponsees. You should know on on you weren't even here and I said a sponsor by mistake. A diet global specialist in international financial services. Hi Mildred, lunish masimi russi, for a red about it's called what I didn't say sponsor. Really? No, I'm not going to we then for sure we don't owe you anything cuz you were here and you didn't make a this bath. So how Okay, you can't come later. If you weren't there, you didn't that's it. You're too too late. Lost. Next. Fine. We'll see what we can do about it. By Reb Zero. All right, Reb Boysai. Same thing all over again. Same kind of question. By Reb Zero. So, we know there's something called matzah and something called chametz. But there's something in between. I don't remember what mesecta we learned it. Probably in menachos. Yeah? These are the breads that if somebody something good happens to someone, he got out of a a disease, he he went through the Sahara desert. What else? He Or he went on a private plane across the Sahara desert. Who is that, Al? On a cruise. Huh? >> Bit by a monkey Bit by a monkey. >> [laughter] >> Who is this, your dad? Grep? Grandpa, so we'll call him grandpa. What's your name? Younger than I look. From where? Born in Sweden. Grew up in Denmark. Yeah. Made in Switzerland, living in London. In London? From all those good places you picked London at the end? >> [laughter] >> Wow. Wow. Oh. Reb boys, I No, just reminding me in 1 month from now, minus 1 month, I'm going to be in Austria for 2 weeks. Inviting the oilum, anybody could come. We're not doing a program, the program is a Weber tour program. Unbelievable food, that's why I'm going there again. Last year, me, the Kamianetskys and the Fixes, we went there. We loved it, so we're going back. We said we're going to tell the oilum about it, so whoever wants to come, come. But a big oilum from England, a big I don't know, I didn't hear numbers exactly. A contingency from England is coming there for Shabbos, like spend Shabbos. You could come for a day, 3 days, see the Alps, see Akiva Horwitz's things, and leave. And I'm not entertaining the oilum. I'm not oilum again, but I'll I'll be there with the oilum. So, what is it? Shiur. Shiur. Shiur every day, two shiurim live, the whole thing. We'll schmooze with the guys at breakfast. And hopefully they don't tag along on my little hikes. It's not like in Morocco where we went together and it I'm not going to have them I should bring them a mashbach. I should bring them a mashbach. Bring them a mashbach, that's a good idea. Anyway, so if somebody went through some tzaros, he was in jail and he came out of jail, so he brings a a tie to today, we call it a hagaimo. And you'd bring 10 bread 40 breads total, 10 of them are chometz, 30 of them are matzah. This guy says, "I want to bring 10 10 breads for a ta'am da'at. Either chametz or matzah, I'm not decided yet. I'm undecided." And the guy, what does he do? He does the palgus thing. He does the in-between thing. What's the in-between? It's called se'or. It's not chametz, it's not matzah, it's se'or. So, you have the same kind of question again. It's the same Reb Zeira asking the question. Now, let's talk about se'or. >> [snorts] >> Se'or, take a look at this. You have to look carefully because you see how it's all shiny? It's It's um And now it just turned non-shiny. That's hixif panav. That's shittas Reb Meir. That makes it se'or. That's se'or. But, you get malkus if you eat it according to Reb Meir According to Reb Meir. According to Rebbi Yehuda, it's when it starts cracking and it looks like the the antennas of a grasshopper. Okay. So, here it start crack That's a a later stage. And according to Here you Here you could see the grasshopper on the left. And according to Rebbi Yehuda, you don't get any penalty. You don't get all this. According to Reb Meir, you get malkus. And you could see according to Reb Meir, hixif panav. Okay. So, the Gemara says se'or demand. The Gemara does something here just to make it interesting cuz basically the Gemara is going to say it goes according to Reb Yehuda and Reb Yehuda because Reb Yehuda says there's no punishment and it's possible that he means that it's a a category on its own. There's no punishment. What do you mean there's no punishment? Because either it's a safek, I don't know what to do, or it's a category on its own. But, according to Reb Meir, it's obvious. That's what it's chametz. It's it's it's it's no good. Well, you why would you maybe say you get malkus? Cuz it's like chametz. Okay. Who's new here that wants to say shalom aleichem? You guys, the two of you? Shalom aleichem. What's your name? Yaakov Anaf. From? Jerusalem. Ooh, what are you doing here? You came for yontif? Uh I brought his wedding. Ooh, wow. Mazel tov. Mazel tov. When is that? Right after >> before. It was before. Today was um Shabbos Shuva. Gevaldig. Okay, and who are you? Mordechai Yaakov's driver. Mordechai Weiner's brother. Drivers. So, like the kosher guys, you're his mishpacha. His mishpacha. Excellent. Had a cappuccino. [clears throat] What? He came for the cappuccino. Ah, did he get one? Yishmach. Yishmach. Okay. Excellent. So, you're you're going to be writing us an email, I came to drive my uh my nephew and I ended up stuck here. Haven't missed a davening since. Halavai. Say halavai. Amen. Uh uh when you when you have time. Okay. So, says the Gemara like this, very simple. Se'or demay is se'or demay, let's do it bal peh. According to Rebbe Meir, hichsit panav, it changed colors, but you get malkus. So, according to Rebbe Meir, it's only changed colors. What would Rebbe Yehuda say Rebbe Meir's case? Malkus. It's garnished. Garnished finished. I- if the stage later where it already looks like a grasshopper, he says you don't get an oinesh? So, in Rebbe Meir's case, it's nothing. So, is se'or demay l'Rebbe Yehuda, matzah mayuchsin hi. Th- this is matzah. So, if I brought 10 breads made out of this stuff, I'm yoitzei my neder cuz I gave 10 breads of matzah, and that's also good. Eeder Rebbe Yehuda l'Rebbe Meir, sorry. Eeder Rebbe Yehuda, now let's say it happened, it's already cracking. According to Rebbe Meir, what what is Rebbe going to say in the cracking? Malkus. If before the cracking you get malkus, it's certainly if you crack it's malkus, it's chametz gamur, and therefore what? I'm yotzei my neder. Either of you the R. Meir chametz are you. I brought 10 breads of chametz. I'm yotzei my neder. I said either chametz or matzah, I didn't say what. R. Yehudah R. Meir R. Meir, okay. So let's say that's talking about that it's just shishim for now, just change colors. But according to R. Meir you get malkus. Again, it's chametz. R. Yehudah R. Meir R. Meir, the lucky alei chametz are you. The Gemara just went through all these steps just to get to the bottom step. Here we are, Elder of Yehudah R. Yehudah. It's talking about R. Yehudah that it looks like a grasshopper, but you don't get onish. My sfeka have no memana of shach. It's a safek. But I brought either matzah or I brought I brought chametz. I brought chametz or matzah, which one I I don't know, I shall decide, but I My neder was yotzei. I said I was going to bring 10 breads either or. So it's either or. Or no, I do a breira of the nothing, or maybe there's a third category called this chametz, matzah, and se'or. And because I brought se'or I wasn't my yotzei my neder. I said I was going to bring 10 of chametz or 10 of matzah. I didn't say I was going to bring 10 of se'or. I'm not yotzei. Okay, so that's the whole safek here. And we remain in the safek. But the Gemara just asked R. Avuna, what happened there? What was the story? Why in the world would somebody say I'm going to bring 10 breads of todah? Everybody knows you have to bring 40 breads of todah. But R. Avuna I may lay lachmi todah. If somebody just says I'm going to bring the breads of the todah, maybe todah the lachma. You have to bring both the todah and the bread. V'kivan d'chayav l'vei todah lachma, alei alei gavra, e'chametz alei se'or matzah. Now, this person now owes 40 breads. Now he doesn't know if the se'or is chametz and therefore he brought chametz and that he owes the matzah part. E'matzah alei se'or chametz. Or maybe he brought some of the matzah and he has to bring another 20 matzah and 10 chametz. He has no idea. So, what did he gain? Either way, he's going to have to bring 40 breads. What happened was he did He's not going to bring 40 breads. He only said I'm going to bring 10. I'm going to help my friend out. I know my friend can't really afford 40 breads. I'll You know what? I'm me, I got 10. I got you for 10. Says the holy other guy chametz he will delay some matzah matzah will delay some chametz. He didn't help his friend at all. The friend has no idea what the seer is. Is seer chametz? And therefore, he has to bring the the rest matzah. Or is the seer matzah and he has to bring chametz? What should he do? What kind of What kind of friend is that? Says the holy other guy friend. He's not a friend that's helping you out over here. He's not going to help at all. But, the question is the the guy that made the nether, is he out there or not? Maybe the guy neither of them are going to lie. The question is this guy that that promised he's going to bring 10 breads of either chametz or matzah, was he out there or not with the seer? He didn't help his friend at all. His friend is going to have to bring 40 breads. You're right. But, what about the guy that made the nether? Does he Was he out there or not? That's the shalah. What do we do? Should we do Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Well, we'll just stop over here cuz it's Shabbos and the Israelis are waiting to come in. Take all the boys out. Have a wonderful week. You should try to come in. Merit the schloss of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shear today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsored.mdy.daf.com >> Mhm.