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hello hi hello [Music] alright so holding up now I'm the alibi the Mishnah brand new CEO says the Mishnah we just had three Matthias that's a cost reserved across Brazil we had mr. cheetah and Malika Akashi be Malika a possible shmita and then we have the mission of Tyron and Vanina what's kosher by a Yana is possible by a tire and then yesterday we had the mission of egg Lok Sabha alaikum knocking off do not refer to the head it does not work by schita now we're going to look at the fourth Mishnah same concept car shabu Cohanim hustle bellevigne so basically we're discussing the age group what's kosher but nan what makes it quite kosher the age or a mum or nada mum hustle bellevigne caution Bellavia impossible hanim and of course Sigmar explains daughter about her name the moon in Toyland Sulu bhishan I'm cherry so okay that has a mome cannot perform the avoid oh but the years don't really make a difference you could be older client and it could still perform that way though however by Latvian the Moomin share a mum doesn't possible baby the Shan am so lame a lady can only work from the age of 30 to 50 so this is an age limitation nintzel customer can hana impossible a vm cost oblivion possible in her name anonymity the tolerable on zeiss a shared olivine muhammad luma pretty this out just to give more reference here this is very interesting you see this you can't really see it so the guys are back if look at their whatsapp but yeah it's for me in my mid bar Parekh yes it says impulsive evolve caucus Olivia and then afterwards impaired impulsive pastor says we crafted Sullivan then it says the crafters love me and then it says Manny personality vallavan me some acquitted am there matters have at v-- him all the blues volume Leah Latvian no it's all of him that became evolving him back into Sala beem medicine of the image that would okay I know we're talking about Levine me but he's had to olivine the Africa Ebola Levine and then our paws look just as a background then I were possibly sighs Sheila Levine Sigmar saying that the words ice in red is extra because we're talking about Levine it's very obvious that we're talking about Levine how more Abby's gonna be if all these particular talking about Levine it should say says Rashi me been homage medicine shot of him out all these people that were talking about all these love EMR from twenty five years and up wise ice a sure love iane it's extra it's coming too close ally mode Matt time alloy mother fish in there might only been Commission show no your stove and then all the way over here it says important cough hey Wilma been commissioned Shana your show the last puzzle that means at the age of fifty bye-bye you can't work anymore l'amanda living Shan Shan imposed on them so you see that there's an age limit yo-ho movement points number him and maybe I would think that a mom should also passed my head if it's a it's a cava climate what's the kind of a climber will say it outside if years don't ruin a plane but years rooting for a lady so whatever ruins it for clients are certainly ruining for a lady ladies more Palmer he's you have to be more mock bid there's a age limitation so certainly there should be a moment limitation vedeno and by the way like we had in all the previous machine eyes to three much nice beforehand we had this the same table of climbers and once you have one copper climber you say the car under reverse with dinner what's the deal Oh Makka Yanam Shan has shown him poison by moving poisoned by him Kohanim are much stronger they don't have a age limitation yet if they have a little mom they can't perform that void the Laveen Shoshanna poisoning them the more sensitive the the years there's a limitation to how old it could be entered in sheer movement positive so certainly a mom should ruin it for the lady Commodores I saw Sarah Levine's therefore after all these Lavigne the Torah says Joyce I shall only be wise ice we're talking about Levin so the zeiss comes to say that only a levy has a limitation to the years and not a concise little game to a nefarious move you know who you are key items to and Bashan him so maybe a client should be puzzle with yours maybe once he reaches 50 that's it by like dinner and now we reverse the cobble climber just like we reversed it by egg law and like we did it by Shaitan Malika and we did it by the pigeons and the tyrant now we're gonna do the same cup of claimer on both both parts of the Mishnah belly dinner well madly vm shame movement poisoned by am shana placing them you see that a vm a mom doesn't pass a limb yet years the the age does pass alone clay hydrogen won't poison any day and she was shot and by some i'm so certainly by acclaim there should be a age limitation time with lloyd my eyes share that latvian Villere i share like a high name and that's why this is in blue it should be red Cheryl LLVM is specific to live in this age limitation Bernards clan yaha a special herb a steel oven cake so now for that we have our first flowchart it's a very it's not a it's an attempt it's gonna get better the Michigan the Michigan was in the mid bar for 40 years from the mid bar it went to Google Google is next the Iroquois and it stayed in Google for 14 years it had the Orang and then I went to Sheila she lied for 369 years before this is before the base I made this is the Mishkan as they came thing I just roll a few years later 14 years later they had a Michigan with the our own with everything then we had the story the other day with a li when he found out that the pushed him took the alright he fell off his chair he died that's when Sheila was Nev and I went from Sheila to knife knife is famous for shawl he killed out Iroquois Hannon and went from knife to give up together not even given it was 57 years and then finally slave I'm Alex bill to be some English New Rochelle I am and then we have Basra in Beijing the are ein yeah but we didn't we didn't have a base and English we didn't have a place for it until my mouth built it whatever happened of it I know then we had over here we had there's no aura in those Baumeister's there's no RNA no nerve and given says the Gemara yaha a specially with a base of loving King Tamela Mann I avoid avoid a survivor this Massa so maybe there's the age limitation by Sheila E and basically in other words over here in these two spots she like 369 years in your salon where they finally made the base emitters Larry lawmen fraternity Tamela I avoid avoid this avoid Oh Bobby this massively Marty I love this man chopped it because in other words in the mid part right over here that's where they had to carry the Mishkan there was it was back and forth they're constantly moving it so you needed strong Kohanim you needed strong Levine sorry Levine those are the ones that but when the Mishkan wasn't she liked all the lady did was he was a gatekeeper and he sang so you need strength so there's no age there's no age limitation then I was hoping you wouldn't ask that because I'm not exactly sure what the answer is there is a different sheet between Sheila and others because of the RNC I wasn't sure I thought that in the beginning and I didn't really see that they speak about it but it only mentions those two so maybe those is thicker because of the amount of years or maybe there's really a difference and I'm not sure Marty Albus Mancha worried about Kosovo on its physical labor on the shoulder then they have this limitation but in the mid bar where we did have a limitation of years so that limitation also applied to singing you can't say oh I'm young and have a good voice I'm in Miami Boys Choir whatever I should be able to sing and I'll do that voice I'm accustomed when I'm when I'm 30 no since there's a limitation to 30 you have to be at least 30 years old so even for singing you have to be 30 years old says the Gemara cross of Ethel to a mermaid been Hamish met some Shana at Vimala the coast of Equador marry me ventilation so there's a contradiction in the tsukumo Clara on the one hand it says the lady needs to be 25 years old on the other hand it says the lady needs to be 30 years old so which one is it says the kymaro he I'm shallow a much relationship animal Hamish bathroom Michelle I'm a college man should find a match situation by the way before I forget today she are sponsored by dr. Epstein leave knishmas his father today's desserts I'd have wrong but are you are you Ben of Rome of Rome know I've I've run without a hey I've roamed not even I'm wrong he actually sponsored today's share he's very generous donated money to the sheer fun so it's a really good show mo once we're mentioning dr. herbs and have to mention his son-in-law Ivy can I ask you you just slept the full suitcase full of coffee from America so you guys can enjoy show up we also have you saw her over there hiding somewhere you also brought coffee from America the other day did you bring it already it's here ah oh yeah peace plays hola whoever goes to America should I don't know if we have to bring coffee we have we're gonna be selling coffee soon for this year of fun Estrella all right says the Gemara now we have a contradiction one puzzle says 30 years the other politics is 25 years old so how old is the lady I have to be okay it's at home each message veteran with town mode relational avoid them setting about amazing thing the Levine went into school for five years did you know this no no it's not just music school yeah they learned music they learned everything about the bass I mean though she had to take apart the pieces everything was a very hard job it took a long time to learn now some people don't what I don't know what they learn but anyways so the mayor says the governor says McCain the talmud Chalet Ross Simon you're finished now sorry Hamish anima fur if a student is studying and he doesn't see he doesn't see hats locker for five years I guess it means one topic or one big onion show of a night Roy yeah unfortunately I didn't see this kumara when I was taking my no you don't know what I'm going yet it took me five years to become a pilot I was like the slowest pilot in history I should have right here five years that's it I didn't make it I should have copped from if I would have learned this kumara boom most people takes a year I actually yeah did you know no I did everything in Chicago and then my I couldn't take my final test is the weather wasn't good I flew to Miami and boom yeah whoever wants to hear more stories about that there was no no it wasn't the guy the guy told me the guy called me he says I gotta go I you know could you think okay well I saw that he's in a rush yeah no problem what that's not such a great story no what do you know the story then you don't know the story okay different time no the guy that parked next to me his plane and my plane was a Froome guys named Shawn menorah and unfortunately he got killed in a plane crash with his no need the pilot himself and his grandchildren were all in the plane and the old time besides one right motion Minar Cyrus I shot faster Joel Marchman are was the pilot and his three grandchildren one grandchild survived the crash and it knows it my wife said that's it right three failed attempts and that was last time I flew a plane not to mention that my own plane was in a crash and was totaled but not by me by some guy that rented it for me okay so moving on what no that guy survived all right right the gig on Ian and this has everything to do with the death Rebbe I see a mere Charlize shun him now repairs he comes along and says yes it says an apostle Lahore we have a contradiction it seems like it takes a lady five years to learn his things I've either but I say it only takes three years to learn something she and mr wegg Adlam shun him Schuller will allow them safer Liu Sheng Casanova holitzer took a bunch of youngsters to teach them he wanted to raise them to be his right-hand man men and he he said it takes about three years to teach them the language washing cosden so what do we do so on the one hand we have five years it takes to learn something then we on the other hand we have three years we dog Shani launching cars in the cloud that's the easy language to learn so it takes three years but that vital be summation X five years neither Shani health is a vital to keeping the opposite that a normal thing only takes three years tone so you want to learn something is so good that takes three years there's been some English that took more because it was much harder so that took five years para una calle mis llaves nasarah is actually asking Colavito so the shear for kind he has to be a ish as gonna see later on ish ish Stace I raised until it becomes old the Kumar's gonna say that old means fully start shaking but there's no real age limit totally so boom aim hoist number yet if he has a mom then he cannot perform that void though been lady revegetation I've been commissioned crush lavender then lay being is we said from 30 years old to 50 years old he's caught sure who shot named poison but yet there's an age limitation Mehmed Varma Maureen Boyle my sheep a mid buck like we said that there's a limitation because over there they had a work that is lab so you had to be at your peak the peak according to this chimera is a person is the strongest from 30 to 50 not like we have an FDA today 20 to 30 it's 30 to 50 a boba she lorry will be basal um I mean if Solomon of a coil once your voice starts changing and you start shaking in your voice you don't have a nice voice that's the soul or maybe I see Mike Ross of diorama days via he echoed the Mahad sits room Velma sherry rim lash me aqua elephant that the band the mikata stream and the singers should sing in unison it should have a nice pitch a nice once they're off tune and once they're no good they can't they can't they can't perform that so very good yeah then they can go then we can keep on going there right there's a test once they see you're off the certain people certain people in my family I'm not gonna mention if it's my father-in-law not but so my life in Manisha's Kyle said you've never heard something like this in your life it's it's yeah special that it's always on a harmony kind of thing no that's that's in the mid book and and in that and then the midrash it just has to do usually there's a certain you know older person now yes there's a young some in the cloud that old men has a nice voice fine but usually as our net it's very interesting that you mention that because I just saw this morning a story that there's an old man that had shaking hands in the sugi of shaking Oh what is close big Hoss [Music] Oh it's not it's not it's not that he came today this is the normal time hold on hold on a second last night was Hilo's daughter's wedding is it amazing - beautiful - and it gives us tremendous look that you're here now I know you went to sleep very very late and you still can't adapt you woke up early so traumatic for everybody oh yeah yeah what are you asking you'll see soon it says the man asked him but it's talking about something else but err he's going back to my thing I don't know Gustavo's it was a nice it was a whole choirs a nice it was a nice thing I don't know that it was a probably was yeah anyways there was a question whether or not a surety fate is we're gonna see soon it says that a kind that's old and shakes he can't perform that way though so there's a shortcut that didn't want to hang up his she thought he's old man he's 80 years old and kept on telling people no my hand is when I said I'm very strong so they went to the Emory a mess or summat one of the rebus and he didn't answer he said okay and then I'm Chavez whenever I sing around he says you bench so the guy took the cup everything fell out of the cup so they didn't want to say hang it up so the rabbit just gave the cup and he cut by himself that you know it's not so there's no there's no hanging up really how was the job afterwards Wow fine also didn't want to hang it up it's hard [Music] there was a guy there's a guy my shear in Chicago he's in his late 90s and the guy could barely hear he could barely walk and used to drive and people were frightened like he's like he's not at and he lit and he died from a car accident yeah his own currency yeah he's 97 years old he I mean he literally couldn't get into this year and it was fun and then he's driving around it's crazy so the nicer point you have to like literally take the keys away like it's hard but they do but they're very nice they're very you know because he's although the guy in the the DMV the the department motor vehicle is not gonna be mean to the guy so they let it go like they do to mold like to my wife also they just you know says the Gomorrah and she asked you says the Gemara there's a game on tap we're holding a club down them and we have a very special presentation at the end of this year so we have to finish quickly actually asking until the coin gets older at Camelot stage or Myra Bell or americani no idea at this when he starts shaking like a leaf or shaking that's it he has to give it up not how some we learned also so good that it has to do with age the difference of age bout Carey should travel a little nine there's an interesting ilaaha about Carey who went to the mikveh but he didn't go to the bathroom yet so this possibly still has era inside of him will because Giotto maíam because she until Tommy when he goes to the bathroom afterwards he might admit Zehra and that would automatically make him Tommy because there has been Marshall if you're a CEO a mayor the oil absorbent ami this hollow home implies the older man that still has era in him the yell Adobe Bharat are a younger strong person would admit it all and you wouldn't have anything left in him yell a.com oh what's the shear of a young pearl young strong yeah oh Mirabella armored honey no cultural even that raggedly AK has four Huntsman Allah even no human Allah a person who will usually we put one foot on her on a bench and we tire a shoe if you could do that without the bench just in the ear your foot up and take off your shoe and put your shoe on and tie you without falling down the balance that means that you were young and strong in Amitabha umbrella Valerie honey no sure he have been my name's Shawna he's 80 years old that's all you're saying mister I know guy those ABS all I'm saying yeah it's a it's a one-time thing and that's why we bring it show a bench - shut up oh yeah I mean the raggle offensive Holzman are live in oil Manila he was 80 years old he's able to balance and something this is strong oh my rabbit honey no I'm in Bishamon she's so hot sneaky maybe I'll do see so canina said the reason why I'm able to do this is because when I was younger my mother used to bathe me an oil paint unduly basic you see by the way this LeClair is the same room Hanina that we had in the beginning of himself though he was a doctor does anybody remember him coming to the doctor the people used to asking questions in before no it was this miss after yeah that what it was it was the the story with the white donkey the white mule and he said everybody anybody that ever asked me about a wound from a white mule never lived in other words white mule is very dangerous so this is the room Connie was saying I'm a doctor and I'm telling you that this oil really works Haribo no miss Melissa Connelly if a coin has a full beard royally associate Eber what sash little tea but we think of seaboard as something that goes up to Dobbin and then it says the second later related with me a favor and the diamond predominant so obviously if zebra does not mean to down for dominance well actually if Steve Amin says Rashi for things with the hag on the side it means to blow strifer and to give mauka s-- and to put somebody in neither and to become the partners of the of the city the lease or escape of what [Music] go down no because in those that more than that I mean physically in those days you'd go down to the almond because the Amida was lower it was a macro Zika you mean because me my girl they made it lower you see step down in our show in Lincoln would have even know this the the the rabbi insisted that there should be a step that you pull it out from underneath the beam instead of being like every other Vemma but he wanted you to go up a little at tires so there's a step he pulls it out and you go up on top of the step you're a little tired fine now there's a visit Isis here and there's a lot of shine am discussing this because it says that a person has to have a full beard in order to duke them for the almond but we see today in our all you have kids docking filament you have kids on the bar mitzva so what do you do so so ptosis talks about it habeas take sides and it says capo she says that it's that's referring to the the sugi linen Magilla it seems like you have to be a Gothel so at any rate the bottom line entices is that to go to do it be curious you have to have a beard but you could go once in a while you can go up and by yourself now and then it goes into that by yourself you shouldn't a cut and should not go up by himself but it could go up with his father and our shall we asked if there's and it happens almost every Shabbos there's only one car in and he has one son and do you call out Kohanim are they considered to order panic attacks he said no it's only considered one you don't call out Cohanim the he goes you never noticed we don't think I had him when he no he's by himself Kinari and a son under Bar Mitzvah you don't take out on the members table on on yeah we said that may mas a Kaushal avoid the wedding kids are performing boy the mischievous desires Rebbe Omer Rebbe says a mirror on me actually a Ben Ezra I say until he's 20 years old it's interesting that I found that Rebbe says this this uh this one these words I'm irani 16 times in shyness nobody else has that only Rebbe it's it's special to Rebbe this dissolution over any even though he was a - thought of I'm Ernie I say hello I'm Annie I'd Cheban s room lastly 20 years old I'm gonna see so what that means is it like a pillow but the event or my rep is that my time at the Rebbe to perform a vital you have to be a 20 year old coin in order to perform a void Okoye or visit my time with the relative Sylvia I mean to us at Levine me been as in Sean of a melon Lana say out Moluccas position they put the Levine for twenty years old to be the managers then I'd say I'm alive has be supervisors I'm a musician yeah well it doesn't say that about Clarence is that about Levine I don't know what kind of they they also had training but what was complicated Levine first of all music is complicated and to to set up to be something this is very complicated but I guess to Schacht and to do everything else is also kind everything is complicated by crumble a beam sieve so that's what you were asking Gershwin movie him it says Levine over here why you saying it's talking about Connie Adam szubin lady dum Sherman lady the s Mary but climbing sneaky way Adam Levine 24 places in the Taira a client is called a lady this mmm and a very obvious one is the posit that says back when you had him Halloween been eight Sadiq so there we're talking about Kohanim yet the pasta calls them Halloween beneath sonic fine says the camera up on ish mizerock hall we do write some Meccano my regulars are hot on pasa Laphroaig that has to be ish about filo tom even if he's a perfect and he has no no moment nothing a cotton xalapa for that with Maemo cycle avoid a when can he start in the CoV stitch T Cyrus welcome back to Anam a many choices Lavoie that's even answer it says it happens to be that a thirteen-year-old could perform that way though but it's not the the older Kohanim they're snobs they they don't like the fact that these little guys are performing with them they they show them away but how logically they can perform that way no economic what Bin's but that it has to do with the age group let's say whatever mission where is performing the older guys yeah but I am being horrible vapid opossums puzzled their opponent Leslie that this is Rebbe and even with the evidence motor Justin didn't allow Megan army Rebbe is sleep swimming there I've gone on but he could say also that Rebbe holds I mean there are Bonin it's possible in other words that have few up under 20 you should not perform that by the Mahara bonne année okay little I ever did the Evan ever got sick share that this is only a lock of the rubber on but the evidence or never though we let it through yeah yeah that's why I stuck in no no no this 24 places entire that we're not proving from me Tesco you testicles just the most obvious one the biggest I don't know if it's the most now it seems like a very obvious contradiction says Haku hanim Halloween word after word the only way to explain it is to say that they are condom from shaven LaVey you know in the other 23 places might not be as obvious we're talking about Keanu but it's not as obvious this is a very obvious Makar that's not that's not dumb a car it's just a great source if you're gonna bring one in 2014 you pick that pause because it's those two words together says the Mishnah continuing with our theme of Cascia Bizet possible z this our fifth theme thar be clitoris Tom a bahala Kaitlyn so you have a clitoris the clitoris is earthenware earthenware is different than any other clean into into hollow Haas earthenware becomes Tommy when the the sheriff's is just in the ear space of the CLE that's its home even in the ear space if it's hanging on a thread inside the cop inside the CLE so everything inside the CLE becomes Tommy and it it's cooler is that if it's not Mitama from guy boy from the from the outside if Toma touches the outside of the clean the inside is not become Tommy Mowgli doesn't come Tommy says the Mishnah atomically Ferris Tommy Bahama Calum touching irregularly from the outside makes the Oakley Tommy on a regular click table oh haha Calum but the ear inside the ear space of a regular clean Tommy Brue Freres is metallic with Ariston Rabanne on a vehicle ether as Tommy Raghava torque the ear specifically Ferris is me Tommy but it's outside the back of it is start having a like healing target Gavin Tommy min-suk target Aristotle Caitlin okay I'm totally clear so what's thing am I gonna do now based on everything we had cava climate to Kabul chimeras back and forth but not adding melee the tartar I bought on Thai song oh oh oh so we have our final four today like avi says if you want you just look at the side of the Gemara yeah but hopefully fair is that sherry Palmer l toy boy I sure bit toy car I eat more isolated mothers telling us these two reds are two separate things one is telling us that the food inside becomes Tommy we're talking about one of the smartest flotsam that's hanging let's say a guy on a fishing line has a dead mouse and he's and he puts it into the clip but it never touched a click so everything that's inside Ackley all the food inside the clay toy boy with Tommy becomes Tommy that's in blue the Tommy and then the plastic says Carter he get - referring to the CLE itself the clay itself becomes the Tommy as well from this mouse the Tommy itself this is the Tommy Tommy we'll see says the kymaro toy toy map of digitally naga even though it didn't touch the actual surface luckily I thought I might have a visually know that oh yeah no yellow MK Naga yeah why not it says no force on one of my charts and I've been mouth and no it's not one it's what I think it is yeah why not I'm pretty sure it is but I've officially Onaga it says inside the CLE now if we weren't discussing this maybe you would say inside the clue inside a CLE like a normal you put it on Apple inside a clue where else do you put it it's not hanging in the clue who told you it's in the air space maybe it's out in the clean psychically I don't even have visually Naga NLM Canoga really simple enough to miss I may never totally with Tommy we never totally tamo so that's what I was telling you talking the timer me Tommy means other things totally Tom ah in itself it says the second thought is with Tamara in itself Matt toreador Millett I may have visually Noga just like the beginning of the postures talking about even if it didn't touch and how do we know it didn't touch the Khmers can explain in a second after the time all about pecially Noga the hot summer Nolan and how do I know that the beginning of the park is talking about even it in touch Oh Mariana Sun Hat I really Ferris my fila mollycoddled the TARDIS says the whole affair is a surely for mayhem I'll totally Carl a sherry Turkle call a Chevy Toyota what is calming everything even the seed of mustard a mustard seed how small as a mustard seed very small so let's say you have a lot of mustard seeds in a cup the cup is full of mustard seeds and a share it's goes inside it what becomes stomach everything becomes Tom may be called how does the how did the mustard seeds in this Center become coming they're not touching the side of the CLE what would make them coming touching all the seeds but how far how far could it go you could go one to the other maybe two times but the center seats it's not one they're all separate seeds they're all separate seats no because that's touching the clean that's not in the wall but if you have a cliff or seeds obviously once you get to the center it's 20 seats removed from the side let's see rash in the top Rashi has three spars here tap Russian never fail modality right no so look look look look look look at the rash in the tab you'll see everything here luckily I didn't give a cool light the clean doesn't touch all the seeds LM ashes some of the fun I only want the seeds that are touching the walls I'm sorry me time I mean I have here obviously the middle seeds become Tommy from the ear you got the you're hilarious is every time is there and you cannot say that once Cedars in the time of the second see why number one schoiar a incubates of a - in order to mean time or one another it has to be the size the cabeza and we're talking about the seeds of mustard the very small boy the second reason ain't Oracle Metamorpho food cannot be met another food boy Tim Kaine zest Shane Eva's Ashley she bashleyf Lee a syrupy the middle one is at least ten off this off the side and the most you get to is for the time is I'm sorry I'm have a great job as share a bunch of Shabbos is gonna be at seven o'clock so in fact now show-and-tell we're gonna show you what a corner looks like with the Tavistock vocal capacity quite about the sheet with the EP and everything non-fixed Rebecca shop tonight Manaka back to Shawn's offer let's see what you have here you can see over here you see how the cartilage cartilage doesn't go completely around this is a sheep there's the cat there's no there you see how the fats on top round show that the owners of that right over here is no there's no cartilage right over here going downward the clave is on the opposite side of the bottle second law is cartilage all the way around this wasn't a mess of glue you couldn't bring a so you have to touch it that's the that's the bottom part of the thermocycler look woman we have to see the whole time I wear the best a little better you can really see here minnekopa LaMotta minik over this plugs into the jaw [Music] you don't really see the voice one of the mothers see them from the side that's great and I know it's gonna be a good hour that's the buzzer glue that might be the clay that might be the clay right over here this might be the quick cheap way of cleaver but where's the forces right before last