Daf Yomi Chulin Daf 12 by R’ Eli Stefansky

all right three limbs here okay it's rippling in clay this good morning food this time ago so we don't have a lot of time today we only have an hour so let's try to finish today's know stuff you'd base on the Dallas we're starting like four lines down over up not to come around hoping I put them around raw F watch your show hands if you saw you supervise the show cane bade them down up on the top we're holding where we need a hold hopefully it will be holding where we need to hold by the end of today all right so you supervise the steep though from beginning to end motilal machetes sorry you're allowed to eat the Chiquito obviously no bigger this year L to eat the Chiquito obviously no big for this year right so the comers gonna explain been loved and if you didn't watch him from eating ten also the home she's awesome hanky dummy what's the case where's the finish here eat the other the gum here if you know for a fact that he knows all the hell locust lemon leader bro do you don't even have to watch him as long as this chart that tells you I checked it and you know that he knows all that law us then everything is great Eloy gum here and if you know for a fact he doesn't know that look she thought well let's start from really low in the air again if we know that he doesn't know how losses so of course you have to watch him from beginning to end maybe I'll do she know maybe a huge resource you have to watch it bellow the leg out they go million government so we're talking about a case that we have no idea if you know that law or not says the Gemara lame-o right midstream it's a cheetah movement but we had a cloud that people that mess around with cheetah you have to assume they know what they're doing why would a normal in the we'll take a chicken or a goat and cut its neck without knowing sceeto obviously he knows kita me Latonya hurry schemata Tara go descriptive Ashok this is a crazy allah this is based like this is the hampshire of what we're discussing yesterday my favorite i love you are near look at this hello huh how does this fit in with today's society how we were very very much made on a chair IAM only on but that's only ruben only there's only that a guy walks in the street he finds a non kosher animal doesn't have any hips around it not that non kosher it doesn't have much temple but it has a slit throat what's that low huh oh irish almost atari good scoot about shook you find in the marketplace you go to Matheny who do you find a dead chicken on the ground you don't know if it's repin oath you don't know if it's help hello you don't know anything are you on my list look like they fight or you tell your messenger he tell us dia go out and shut them Eva ha laugh and according to Rashi the sender went out Wilmots a shuffle then he found that the animal is shifted has scarcely shuffled great you're allowed to eat this animal okay so today we don't possum I think you're right we have this issue of Boston of Salmonella but if there's no problem of bustle should I sound happy then it's shop [Music] now you have there is a problem there is a problem they say there's Brown by economist practitioners also problem Buster's Kazama but assuming there's no position of a guy a guy that's mark but guys what's this friend's house I don't not gonna eat but your house because you probably don't have the best that same guy could pick up a dead chicken off the sidewalk either I get it I see we saying in terms of the sensitivity in terms of yeah how am i mean invited students to see the moon canaan so obviously from this i love mother you just pick up like that chicken from the floor you don't know who the circuit is it's because we have this concept that most people that share since this animal shefte most people as chap they know what they're doing how konami leymah right between is discrete the moon coming so over here in our situation we don't know if the guy knows all office doesn't know us why don't we assume the best then he knows that office says thing about all of the other the government so obviously we're talking about a situation where you know for a fact this guy doesn't know anything you know that he doesn't know you know that he does not know how cuz and what's what's the finish we can go into shock at come on cut semen shop here this guy this bora-bora so let's say this is the student student choice if he doesn't only unlock us he's just raises first day on the job so what's the finish he shafted properly one Simmons I just assume you're talking about let's say go not a chicken because the chicken you only have to shut down simian so he shucked it a gold one simin and it was perfect and then he turned around walked away sound think since he did a one sim in properly so the second similar is also pretty good no that's that's the for this year mother's here with a shot commercial on high is roommate is family what never see it from beginning to the end on a person that you don't know on a person that you know that it's no good so it seems like oh so it seems like it seems like if you are looking for it you will find it if you're just looking because they do bring up your point because we we had another and the other so you smash mad that even by looking by Hershiser the car that maybe the she is Risa so they're saying that over there a guy was just looking he wasn't among hook that was steering and watching he's just happened to see if Hershiser can go like this so he didn't notice that this she he or jury so maybe he paused for a millisecond but if a guy's there he's like wait a minute is a student let me make sure that his sheet is good he could tell if there's a Shia he could tell if there's a threesome um commercial non highest Rumi his family he got really lucky beginner's luck like they say on the first sim and he had beginner's luck on the second sim and it'll shambo shambo Dora's so what do we have llamas la mascota if la huaca or the mascota of this so you if you know that the show pet knows all the helices you don't have to watch him at all if you don't know anything you don't know and you didn't watch him what's that Lanka you could take it you can take it off this off the sidewalk why because Roy Fitzsimmons Ishita so where's the problem if you know for a fact he doesn't know anything so if he doesn't know anything what could you do watch him from begining times what you know he talked these guys as moisture we sat with this guy did they rattle off a lot about patty know everything you'll see I mean I don't know all share at least our have certain friends says the Gemara boy Munir up TV by a super obnoxious all the market in the world won't help ya let's say we're you that we're getting there by Munir up there by a severe of Nachman however the sukhoi say you straight the whole apple matzo shuffled so this basically the hell off that we learned the Huayra but the gamers repeating here if a person tells his messenger I want you to go after me and when the sender goes out he doesn't know whether he's schlep shifted it he finds his animal dead on the ground with a slit throat there's a cheetah down here mouth on my lawyer that's custard shuffle where the Hozuki that he's shackled now yours gonna get into it what's the huzzah here is the Kazakh that raw material or whose side he's not gonna make it because I sent him and the guy agreed to go so a higher most people to agree to do their job they'll do their job and was shifted by mice Leah now how I may look like say you draw him what's that locker by tromo I tell myself go and do Truman for me the whole apple nuts at our room my and then he found that everything was good Schumer was set on the side Omar they ain't cuz Cossacks are no good Marcia what's going on here eat has occasionally who sorry if I believe that initially after does his job I feel the true Minami OS Omer didn't finish the second it's obviously who saw ie this is not like him he flew to Minami Souma man himself what is going on here how can we say that mosquito we assume that the schlep shafted it for him and my true or not no he's he's a Yankee he's never been late a villager Minami we ain't as oh gosh yeah who saw a fish get an ambulance so what's going on in MLA Lafitte a fool a lot cooler Demelza this is an expression brought a few times in showers not too many but it says basically it says if you if you would measure for me a whole cooler which is a tremendous to the amount of salt if you do something nice for me I will tell you chat basically rad she says boo boo so he's joking around with him now what Lala sorry we're not going with this Hozuki that a person's gonna do his job not people get lazy they won't do it mosquito yet if you find the animal with a cheetah then you're allowed to eat it why they'll make a chef Rina show my boss also hunt maybe somebody else did you the favor and killed it for you Android mid-semester Street the movement going back to the spar that we said before we can assume that when you find something check did I know from my I myself I'm not gonna take a knife and cut an animal's neck there's no way I'm gonna do it first of all I'm scared I'm it grosses me out and I don't know what I'm doing and I'm not it's not something a person I've never tried it it's not gonna do it so if somebody if you find the animal that shafted and it looks like it's a good ski that you have to assume the guy knows what he's doing not because he's Ashley after did Ashley close fine now what about rumour Rumour Duma initially neshama Vitara so since we don't have a haka that the guy is doing Ashley close so we're gonna assume that somebody else did it for him have a little Amy - so the guy did trimmer without permission but time Schliemann - ain't true matsuri true mo somebody that does true mo without consent of the owner is all true mo so like Adi said you could look Raschi what if you look at this page over here what right oh very good question we're gonna get there very good question that is a good question actually not that all your other questions aren't good but that's it was specifically good question and I wanted to talk discuss it a little bit so in this passage it says came to remove damn at them true mas Hashem yeah that's what says what is the word gammon blue means from now on no it's extra did you say kata Remo at them to massage em what's gum also so the Gemara directions gab means also steel but this Lee F guy has to be like the red blue and red have to be the same yes you can do Ashley up what has to be at them and has to be you you have to give consent you have to say I make you Ashley up a guy on the side I wants to be a nice guy do trimmer for you has no right so let me ask you a question this is a real question that happened with the Truman said legend a lady hired another woman to to bake for her so she's begging she made though and the owner always wants to be my fresh towel right she lets the lady do the dirty job make the dough get her hands she comes afterwards and does Kyla it's a big school blue-collar right the lady is looking around she doesn't see the valid ice if she doesn't take Kyla now it's gonna be no good that those gonna get ruined whatever it's not she she's in a rush she has to do it so what she can do so she took our herself without permission she took Howard what's that wahoo Gordon do I just said no good shoes that doesn't said it is good it's good I what do we do talk tomorrow she said an Afghani know the because Zahra I'm sorry before not $4,000 sofa that's his point there is a concept of zhehan yeah but it go into the garbage she would have no Mitzvah anyways so something was looking for him and something large like a fart of according to a lottery shine in it is because ruthless it's like Ashley is as if I may - Nia so you have to make enough kameena weird there's a I have said I go over here this is cool cool so you say he's a philosopher but and another enough community is that by true MA by true of these different amounts you give what one out of 51 out of 41 out of 60 so we don't know what the amount is he never was told what their mouth is why are you taking a certain amount maybe the owner wants to think less maybe once think more cos cos ice is my name oh yeah if it's one out of 24 one out of 48 but today we take a cos I see I've never seen done against the law right it could be a mushroom I know but I don't want you to think of mushroom I want to take true more a lot I want to take a lot Mazda's did you have to leave a key right yeah yeah was it only way because of the calm in a situation where the woman admits I would have no approach style because I don't know what kind of dough this is though that gets ruined if you don't think it now it's gonna get run whatever she went out of town not that she went away for two days Zog tomorrow leymah right Medina to ski tamuka name today ye so let's say this whole concert that we just discussed that we have to assume that a person knows what they're doing if you find an animal that chef did that it came from a structure that knows what he's doing so let's say this is astronomical I guess the Sanyo Horatio the lucky dog avatar a goal of elephants a mutant a person lost his goats and his his chickens and he goes and he finds them he recognizes them and he sees that they're shafted review the icer of Hanina Ben dosa really matter maybe who the says you know Larry eat from it Luca Nina says you're allowed to eat from it on my Rebbe so we have to remember this Rebbe oh my Rebbe Niram dear a baby who the ship in some vegetables so the first time the Gemara the regular way of reading you is right now we're reading that Rebbe is saying hallo ho I decided me Remy I think that I like you Ruby who though in one case I like I'm coming in another case I like Ruby who though she was some bashful if you find if you find a chicken in a garbage can then it's it's no good I went to do cap artists in bet Who am with me somebody need to share what oh you did you he said it's it's a crazy operation they bring this truck that has the whole lime in it you know the line is right you you hang it up and then the Machine takes it through this these brushes and the feathers come off it's a portable lot and it's like to bring the Schleck place Tibet the one thing they didn't bring is like air conditioning and food so you go there and they have thousands of chickens and literally hundreds dead on the ground they have a picture of somebody wants to see and there's an Arab full time a couple of Arabs full time just taking the dead chickens put in the garbage can the guys it was so hot that day it was so hot and there's no food nothing no protection they're out in the open in the Sun just dropped it they die and people doing cut parts with these half dead chickens is crazy I ran away from there so anyways if you find the chicken in that garbage can it's an available I promise you it's an available it's not shefte it's it's nothing it's it's finally bash pop that's - PO right exactly you found the chocolate but those were also I think those are for short rapist in the mail I don't know what they may be for copper it's okay wasn't for reading by the way if somebody wants to do it it's very interesting if you want to do it if they had to get their act together next year it's could die because you do kiss you at them you get to do the mixer I've never done that mr. in my life you they give you they give you dirt and you say the profile because this is done whatever it keeps you down I'm not the dead ones the ones that look alive yes yes no they're shutting it no there's a whole cup parties going on just you had a pick the one that's not dead they had the one that's almost dead and you grab it real quick before it sees the Shama and you go like that yeah [Music] now yesterday Fridays for you you mean your last year that you were here yeah we have a shearing by the way her body side we there's a shear of mutton shop is here at seven o'clock yeah that number that iron price said it was of Guzman wasn't 607 I didn't count me in himself what's the brown with them their body inside is good they're just dying from starvation that's not as trayful seriously we thought dehydration I mean if you open up your body they have no punctured lungs their hearts are good it's just it was cruel to the animal cruelty it wasn't a good situation no it was a big hassle for them I mean all these chickens were like garbage I'm not joking there's a dumpster half way full with dead chickens a big dumpster like one of those all my revenues every bishop in some batch but if you find this if you find if you find it this chicken in the garbage I I think Rebbe is right that it's an available you should not be eating it the debris of honey no show me exactly Dermot some advice now I think your Nina's right if you find it inside so many sounds shafted but Oh both of them a chef did like you're not gonna point it out there chef did so if I find it in the house it's caution I find them garbage and why would somebody think I shut the chicken and put in the garbage can because he realized that he did she here he did three saw even though looks shafted but it's a puzzle and that's how I burn the garbage can my lab welcome if Louie so what's the hard well I guess we want to say that the maloik is is a question if Road between its escrito of the moon wanna the Mars surveyor of Hanina that says it's multi to eat I'm really annoyed with scene it's a Chiquita moving that's why if I find this chick in somebody's house it's odd you're saying good why because the guy's chaptered it is a mum myself and I mean right between music see the moon coming and review this says no I don't say there is a moment and mmm a law it's austere teeth yes I see what you're asking yeah you see asking it's it because it's an available nothing to do it kita right that's what the sand meant okay very good questions you like this and I got it Almer up not very useful life the cool a Alma right it's a mesquite the moon coming no there's no right maybe you could say everybody holds and it makes sense that somebody that shafted knows what he's doing Ubah values the coolly all-male bleak the char a woman who among people have a label you know so there's not much point use if you find it in the house the higher it should be Muslim and if you find that a garbage can and saucer so where is the my Plagueis keep Leah mastership advice in a garbage can in the house so on the one hand it's in the garbage and other hands in the house there's a my ficus mash serve our other muscle had to live lost the battery super buddies one man dollar holds it's too much of a tear to go into the garbage dump all the way to the to the local dump so mela he would put it his own garbage can now what's the problem his own garbage can it stinks it doesn't make sense that person would put it my saw bar ain't no the most people had on the bus if i - bishop of values so some circuses what's my focus in omits ears he goes into some sort of shock but what do we have we have one my daughter says it's a theory huh so to go all the way to the local dump so he puts it in his own house no matter who says no if I find that in in my house why would I put on the veil of my house doesn't make any sense to put a dead chicken in my garbage cans it's gonna sit so I felt by mistake and I'm a hello I'm allowed to eat it so the more just goes into this rebbe oh my my oh my Rebbe near and every revolution with some bash ball my Ashbaugh so what's the plan already especially shook Rebbe says I think reviewed is right when you find them in the garbage what garbage if you talk about the marketplace how much the kilometer looking awesome you just said that everybody agrees that smoother that's also helps you the master supervise so you have to say that the word a sport that Remy's talking about is not the garbage in the show cuz that everybody agrees that'll be awesome even canina holds that it's awesome so it has to be the the garbage in his house so Lima save up the delivery of honey no but no seriously aggravation with some of bias but robbing everybody and Rebbie says that it seems like your cleanliness right when you find it in the house we're in the house according to what we just said everybody agrees that are you find in a house it's caution everybody everybody whoever says in the house is culture so what what did Rebbe mean oh it looks like you're coming in the house you know the base mohammed salameh limply the shark I hope she's a pastor supervise her but that's a contradiction manao back on the one hand you're saying that the garbage can in the house you passing like reviews on other you popular Makani no it's a motorist with the garbage can the house says the good morrow he karma ready never meant to tapassin hahaha and say oh I think that the lockers like reviewed like this room honey like that he was just talking with Arriba honey no and review the hockey gamma never in the review the review this is that it's also the ribbon honey nomination exactly a bastard she was sure that Vanina who says it's motor would agree to be you know in the garbage in the in the marketplace that's already want to say shadow cannabinoid should be a sec we live in my goal of alabaster super buyers they're homozygous is only in the garbage in their house whether or not somebody throws a chicken in the garbage can even a goat we're talking about a goat sort of got into the garbage can big travel my wife would not be happy if I threw it in the garbage can in the kitchen hobble the lady Philly I'm over a specific showed my delay veneering behula rashes not worries these words says the Gemara going back finally after 12 DAF we're going back to the mission of quartz McLaren show you the record in Chicago Utah so it says everybody can do everybody's crusher for sceeto besides the hair sherry cotton because they don't know that well cuz they will do she Orissa says the Gemara what is Shamu recalc Alou in the future they will be mcconkle in other words I think I shouldn't give a chicken to Hershiser because it now because maybe in the future is gonna be Metallica but if I give it gave it to him that'll be okay it seems like the mission of the koi is talking about even but the event it's no good so she's saying Shamu kill cool shall kill cool okay Tony my loa mikata Lou so what's the chance on my robbers I see MERIS ain't mysoline Poulin look at Hitler says robber that look at people you should never in other words look akela don't give it to her she to me cotton but if you did give it to Hershiser cotton would be okay why shouldn't you give a fair shine of a cotton something the chef if you're watching him because they're mass bear because of a problem attach this you don't want to give somebody doesn't know what he's doing in animal to chef which is a great likelihood that he's gonna mess up the Chiquito and that would be a problem about fastest but if you did give it them and you saw that he's okay and you watch it from beginning to end there's no Shiva Theresa then then it's kosher because they go like this to go like that to do she'll what supervising doesn't know you tell a guy hey don't don't do but he's a ferret she's a psycho so either he'll listen to you everyone was into you you can't rely on him and he'll be a problem of but about cashless cuz that's what I came to to prevent the question but at the end of days somebody's watching and if there's she he'll say hey take this an altar in the garbage but that's the problem you don't want to take that animal throw in the garbage the Coolidge the Shocker to behaviorism she doesn't share if this is supervision anybody that chefs the ski disclosure Montano the Lebanon cabin on the speedo so Raschi here goes very interesting I have to look at this a little bit more but we had a whole giant so again the bays enough gimel on these exact words buffoons to show her to and we basically came out that the missions not talking about a her shine of a cotton because the wording oh that's what Roger says because the wording the mission doesn't fit her shape the MacArthur because it should just float it should flow right into her it was talking with her sure the content it should say and if people are watching them the current you can that we're discussing then the sheet is okay and the mission doesn't say that the mister says Coulomb as if we're starting a whole new thing so rash ears mass beer that that the Gemara what the moment over there is that don't say it's only at her shoulder cotton safer means also her shaken hula means everybody including attention so now that we understand that that everybody including a cliche to the cotton no matter who no matter what if there's supervision the steepest caution as the Gemara but at end of the day a cotton has no - he's not thinking about Chiquita what is he thinking he's thinking about I'm gonna cut the neck but he's not thinking about the Mitzvah heater but I have to do schita he's thinking better an action is gonna take he's a cotton how do you see you don't have to have to Ivana yeah but nobody's watching his brain and we don't know in his brain with what if he's singing little ashamed surskit oh yeah we had let's say the first mission of an office the first news welcome let's go to svaha if somebody is chefs an oiler but he has qivana for a Coty's no good right so you have to have qivana while you chef okay so let's see so so you don't have to have come on it for for a chicken so what if a robot does it one of the machine chefs is that okay I agree we have to have some sort of honor for Chiquito says the Gemara Montana the Libyan capital of Quito oh my robo rebe no sin he the Thani oh she's your diamond Cabrillo the young guy she from the from the Kebra from the from the guys zorax a keen Lynott's of a crystal interesting case a guy was playing darts with a knife and he threw the knife at the wall at the dartboard and all of a sudden the neck of a cow showed up underneath a naive and it slashed his naive why the case gets much more interesting the knots of the course of a half of a shock to Konerko and it chaptered it through not so much one Boy slim Russell says you don't have to have intense for sceeto says the kymaro ooh Tony love or mellow how lovely gave nothing now looks like I'm not so you don't have to have intent ask the komarovo be done by the who maybe with a knife you have to go forwards and backwards so just because he threw out the dart board now you only have four words where's the backwards says the Gemara hishaku balkan Erika's talking about it bounced off the wall on the rebound it caught his neck so we have to understand in Gemara in general what the governor is saying not that is such a case or it's even puzzles it but what if there was such a case in other words on the create how logically conceptually if there was a low but more than that Rashi says you don't even have to say what the Gemara saying as she said there is a way if the knife was very long you don't have to go backwards if the knife is double the size of the neck then going forwards is also the game are just saying how logically theoretically yes my wife would not any time I say these cutting edges but it's impossible okay yeah you're right it's impossible but but but how ethically what is how do we view this how ugly if a machine did it if you threw it not not look at little ashamed sheath oh and it came back and forth the ratchet says you don't have to call the Kumar's just don't you because as Rachid what a mind experiment exactly thank you a mind experiment don't ask me it never could happen and it's impossible that's not the point the point is what would the hell office say if it did happen do they love a boss says Rashi I don't even have to come out that crazy case that it bounced off a wall all I need is a longer knife by the way moysha do we use knives that are double the size of the neck so that you don't have to do I look evolved oh but they do I look about two minutes all right it looks it looks like it looks like the knife is double tonight that's what it would look like I think I think it's doubling the length so you don't have to do I love I love me that's what I'll guess that would be not but we go backwards just to be idea just in case no but if I can't even have longer yeah but they know what they're doing all right so bottom line is the gamar says we passing like urban austin who says you don't need intent even throwing your knife at a wall your chef is okay so therefore even a cut on that chest it'll be okay I mean there's a whole story that goes until you get what we could start it today let's start over here by rabble boy you really cannot remove another question talking about this cotton in Machado and that's cotton usually my shovel or a lemur shovel if a cotton let's say talking about the oiler he had uh he shafted and I love the shame the shame I don't know what did the Schmo does it was small work by a cotton does he have enough - to say that I'm shuffling it for the right thing for the right animal Emily arrived at me with a boil a miser why are you asking about his intent let's look even at his mice in other words if a cotton takes us Itamar is gonna say soon a cotton takes an animal from the wrong place of that Xaro the animal he has to chef this ila in the more than part of that zara and he takes from the from the door i mean he takes him to that's often taken to the south to the north so he's showing that he knows what he's doing he's he's taking action why is he pulling the animal from here to there so he's not just it's not something in his head he with his mice a showing his intent so how come you rebuking are not worried about is my son my son of mice is like a my boiler how come you never asked the question about action because that's before submission er this now Ashley I'm I saw it says before she the Mishnah as we're gonna see soon that a cotton could show with his with his action that knows what he's doing and that would be good so if that's the case must oven ami like the ballet so then why you asking any question about intent it's in the same Mishnah this 9lm up shop look the Cotton's workshop is no good this 9 what I was saying the mission for our environment very go is if a kid takes some sort of a corn a pomegranate egg goes is a walnut but anyways he takes something with a hard shell and he makes a clear out of it Chicago come Tino gets along with my mother I was thinking there's peril no animal in the world maybe besides a monkey that could do such an action it's a very intelligent thing to take something and make a hole in it says Rashi empty out its contents and make a clear out of it that's that's an intelligent person of Celgene beam so he does it in order so he could measure dirt play Roger says he wants to play with it I should to Kingdom the cat was nine or he wanted to make a scale out of it to make him so this becomes macabre terminal or saying took Ackley and Tamika bottom why the Mishna says depreciation are my sermon about shovel it says more forest in the same wine that tells you the reason why it's me cobble too much because a kid could could take action and his action could create a CLE Luke Toma however his brain his bass nice brain is das doesn't work this is my ferocious that's not good oh my leg so you told him I saw the greatest like Himalaya kick him with Berlin my shaft and he carries me to my song keep going to havoc I'm always a bit Dora massive it's awfully short at all so anyways we'll do this tomorrow basically when it's a combination of a Meister together with him at shava where the case that I said that he brought the animal he slept him from the south to the north so the over there he's showing that he's not just he has intent he knows what he's doing he's he's full he's filling his mind is my shovel with him I saw so over there but also you could say wait a minute maybe the reason why I started from the south in the north is because there's no room over there whatever there's other reasons not because he was doing a lot of schita so that will see my session tomorrow have a wonderful Lanica mccoy this [Music] you know interesting cuz it's fun it's funny point