Daf Yomi Beitzah Daf 08 by R’ Eli Stefansky

the schedule is we're going to do that now and then we're going to take a five minute break and then i'm going to redo dav zayn for anybody that wants to hear it again this is a very nice islam on rosh hashanah itself it's it's it's a kid that honors hashanah there's other things to do people come together to learn torah i must say rosh hashanah it's late at night people are tired they want to shower they want to well we're coming two gentlemen came all the way from a frat i know they didn't take a shower stay away from those two for coming um is there a sponsor yeah oh okay yeah it was one of those coming back from shoal running the show also preparing that test meanwhile i shall read an email for you this is from the famous yossi gliberman what is this there's a bunch of sponsors oh by yeshua erin price happy birthday to my son avi he gives up his father 24 7 for the dab and by he's famous for he does the the song of the daf is that what it's called yeshua what is it called songs of it's like a grounding of the entire mesefa every mistake he does this he wrote someone forwarded me a link to your batadaf base and your 15 minute intro was 15 minutes introductory monologue about learning if you see them and specifically learning the daf it's a classic should be required watching once a month for every young man from the age of especially at least married working and being conveyed eat them thank you ellie for changing the world one limit at a time you'll see lieberman brooklyn new york and here one more uh by simcha s salomon a good vote on thursday i came home and my family was dressed shabbos dick there's a whole table set up for this for the sukasium even though i only started the s so i really didn't finish but they considered it as well as myself as kind of scene my kids didn't know that i started the middle i also we also this year started as a big daf anyway check out the silk on the table that my seven-year-old made with real leaves on it and the hadrian in the back wall from real leaves because of the sukkot you had to see how excited they all were we danced away this is the difference between the other times that i started and stopped the middle and now because now it's an exciting part of my family that's a big thanks to your belly thanks again with mother much appreciation simple solomon it's beautiful that a person celebrates to see him with his mispaha and get getting the kids kids involved dancing away it's unbelievable all right rabbi say here we go we're holding on that zayn on the base only in the bottom um okay going back to the first mission of bato the mission brings three cases where bishamai is makel compared to basilo in yantev so the mystery says that everybody agrees that if there's if you already shake the animal you can go ahead and cover the blood we're talking about kisui hadam okay in case you missed yesterday's shear and you're not going to listen to it so i will give you a little secret in case i don't say it tonight again i just want to say this again it was beautiful so to me it was very touching and moving yashev i'll tell you a different story about then you'll understand i don't want to paint him in a bad light this is actually in a nice way this is a very special thing he had the key to the mikvah and he would go every single morning to the mikveh and you know there's some of these naggers they wanted to tag along they didn't ask permission they would sneak into the mikvah as he so they walk in with him the rule was when he was finished he left and locked the door so one time he left and the guy starts hey lock the door because every second by him is valuable you want to sneak in that's your problem i need to learn now understanding this personality of that i saw a video of him meeting some of his great grandchildren for the very first time and it was like yeah i'm so-and-so never cried he never seen him cry it makes sense you shall meet the one time he saw him cry is after kaparus they brought in a shaykh one time zenika said i bring a shaykh i have a guy he said yeah brought in according to ravi schoenberg he probably did it he says you're my and therefore he was able to do kisi adam and when he made the bra down for the very first time in his life he started to cry it was emotional for him that he never made the broken before okay so the mission says you could dig up with a shovel and cover now there are four problems by digging with the shovel here are the four problems problem number one is that it's harish you're plowing you're not a dig on chops problem number two it's koitis in order to cover the blood you have to make it very fine now sometimes the dirt is has um what's the word clumps thank you doc it's clumpy and you want to make it unclumpy so your kaitish your toy your grinding third problem is you're building by making a hole in the ground you're building this bino and the fourth problem is it's mukta dirt is mukta so the kumar is going to get rid of all four of these problems they're not issues why on my ribs it's already in the ground so it's already in the ground you're not irish you're ready you already plowed it it's also not muktsa you get rid of this problem and mokuto because you already designated it so those two problems are gone ah [Music] but it's clumpy and you're grinding it down okay you have to get rid of that problem too there's no clumps it's clumpless dirt not a word okay block off at guma but at the end of the day problem number three bueno what are you going to do with that [Music] okay we get rid of that problem too there's something called mikhail and chavez when you destroy something you don't want the hole you want the dirt by you creating a hole for no reason you're ruining your backyard it's not a good thing so you potter from uh it's not it's not considered making you're not buying it you're macauco macaco it's not a problem what yeah but this is let's sort of like hold that fish and all these other things so mela it's not a problem today okay says the gemara it says the mishnah if you look at the mission let's go back open up if you can look at the wording just very strange the last four words of the mishnah he should dig and we just explain why it's not a problem you get rid of all the problems the ashes of a of an oven are already there they're designated for you how does that fit in mammoth doesn't fit in says the gemaro fair kiro muhammad afer kiram mandikar shmei who who mentioned the oven shayfer shem means is the continuation the shin he says every any time in all of sha's when the decree will surimaxura doesn't really mean there's a word missing we have to understand it differently but it's we don't understand but he says because these are two things that they fit right in whatever i ain't chum in the in the village this these ashes are ready to go ready to use as a kisuy haddam for kisi adam oh ravi dumarao le chandra alex shru sigmari biante okay so now have a few alas here what kind of ashes can you use it must be that these ashes were designated before yantif they were already ashes before yontev avalos so beyonce if you use wood for whatever reason you're you're cooking on your antivirus you have ashes that's not a good enough ash why because it's not live it was created today you had no intent for it if you did this error of yantev and you had intent to use it fine but if you did it on yanta if you're using it to cook you're not doing it for for to cover blood so that's considered night light it's a problem then roy let's lose by baits on mutter now on yontif it's hot enough that you could actually throw an egg in there and use it to cook so since it's right here since it's right for one thing i could use it for another thing it's right to cook my egg so i'll take it instead of cooking yeah i gotta take it and cover the blood by the way once you cover the blood you own a chicken slaughterhouse and you cover the blood could you sell that blood to a factory to make uh fish food or whatever they're going to be uncovering the blood they have to take out the dirt you're uncovering with this if it gets uncovered by the wind you don't have to recover yuka anka so a little bit of a shiloh but if they're going to use it like to fertilize the field that's 100 percent okay because it's in the field there is a shy lift there i think they passing without your passions not to you can't sell it okay says [Music] this these ashes that we say that you could use to cover the blood is only ashes that are there from before you antennae also if it happened i ain't it again it's not allowed word for word if it's still hot enough you so you could do another melaka with it so i could do them covering the blood what do you mean like stop using maybe well maybe the ashes are underneath maybe they're not connected to the hot like the whole the whole matzah is hot everything there is hot but you have like the little lash on the side i don't know you're saying that's not counted every piece has to be hot and by throwing it into the blood you're saying yeah i would assume look what you can use could you use these ashes or not once it's cold you can't use it he's just asking it's what he's asking i think i think it's the whole it's the whole what right so that's what i'm telling him that but so what's hot the afer day for itself is hot and you know i'm a habit no you're not gonna you're not gonna put out a coal so i'm saying so then it's not hot then it's not no i think that maybe it means the whole situation is hot those the the little dirt part the particles are hot to themselves no because it's next to the coals okay whatever i think this call i think though this coals and then underneath is like the the ashes and that no you're saying that okay it's a good child we'll look into it you can make a scrambled egg in the car on the hood of a car on a sidewalk very important if you take a bunch of dirt happens all the time take a truckload of dirt you get you get a delivery of dirt why because you're about to do construction whatever you're going to do if it's in a pile it's not spread out so i could use that dirt to cover the egg the the the cover the blood vomit magnesium offer visible cold sarco comes over you then adds and he says i can use any i could do whatever i want with this dirt typically dirt is mukta but since i designated it i could do whatever i want with it any sorry i have doris marzulli the ra rabbah masoor provided that you put it on the side you made a special place for it okay the point is that if you had this dirt it's it's a nice pile of dirt it's a lot of dirt yumiyaki you say i want to do whatever i want with it so one of the things that you can do with it is to cover the blood there's other things you want to cover you want to play with it i don't know what you want to do with it you're allowed to touch it it's not much we didn't know we were talking about yeshiva quite no he says my they used to say that right it's not an issue i never heard of it then i ended up there okay they know what they're talking about what else did they say over there they probably said like the art scroll instead of see me right but you we sort of see me know that's mohilo i am kipper there's another opportunity meanwhile i'm going to salt and salt and salt all the way through in cuba all right a kai is a crossbreed between think a goat and a deer it's a bahiman it's a combination of both there is a kaya a goat is a bahama you take the two of them some people say it's a buffalo whatever some sort of interesting animal so the problem is because we know that what are you doing so you can't check it why because you're going to do mukti you're going to do all these things for no reason what if on the sad that it's a behemoth you have no right to cover it ask the gemara what's the problem call your i have a pile of dirt i can do whatever i want with it i want to play in the sand with my kids i can do whatever i want so one of the things i can do is take some sand and cover the blood what's the problem why can't you shut the car says gemara well wait a minute maybe the shot is he doesn't have sand and i'll prove it to you why do you have to come onto a pile of dirt that he designated he has a shovel in the dirt like the mission says and it's great elo the leslie because he doesn't have a shovel he doesn't have dirt he didn't think about it if he has a big pile of dirt you're right he could cover we're talking about in a case where he doesn't have a pile of dirt that was that was designated before because otherwise maybe as a shovel that's designated before now you know he's a little different if he doesn't have any dirt mayuri suffolk affilo if he doesn't have dirt so even if he has a a dead deer in front of him and he has the blood he's not on a dig element he does have dirt he has to have something if he has a vaday of to do kisi adam we already established the first thing we learned today is that it's a very special situation it's only when the shovel's in the ground and it's offered it doesn't have any clumps and uh but if he doesn't have anything so he's not allowed he's not allowed to do the kiss he does have see if he does have why can't he do a koi so here's also something that's counter-intuitive it's it would be better says the gemara to do kisi adam on a suffolk animal like a kai than to do it on a vaday deer why did they listen maybe it's better to check this buffalo whatever it's called the koiakvi it's such a suffix we don't even know how to say it okay maybe it's better to check that and on the side that it's a behemoth don't do there's a fifty percent chance you don't have to do kiss at them at all and now i have simraciantev on the one hand a suffolk whether i even have to say them or not so it's better look i have two animals in front of me i have a deer i can have venison for for for yantev hush of his stuff or i could have this koi slash buffalo or will the beast yeah one of the two which one should i do i says do the kai why because there's a fifth percent chance you don't have to do kiss damn this is better for the combination no you don't have to do that no commercial on don't get involved with that at all i want to point out twice this is here tyson says dear masculine i'm reviewing like if it's true that you're now we're turning to daff has some of the base sponsored by the md whitetail group for all those who need shidduchim refusing us please join tillam.8.com i didn't say that part i said the first part but not the please join and by lazarian from los angeles in honor of my wife for being moisture nephesh for torah says you shouldn't cover with blood you shouldn't cover the blood because you have a way to do it so smash my day there is a way ella marabo so mario is going to say here a few shots this the gemara is going to fix up a little bit why until the end of them why can't you shake a koi on yantef wamp shot is because luhari could if you have offer on the side but if you if you just have afar for for specific uses you cannot use it for a suffolk use a koi is a suffolk so i can't use what they offer for suffolk koi if i have if i designate it according to this plot if i designated the offer specifically for the kai i could you're right i could but my offer is for very specific things vaday things not for suffolk things that's wamp shot another shot we're going to see is and this is all the way down to the bottom of the element that's it another shot is that we don't want people to get confused if you're going to cover the kai's blood you're going to say oh it's kaya if it's what's the difference they're going to come to eat the kalev we don't want people to eat the koi is khailev and finally the third shot is and it's hidden in the gemara if you just learn it like that you probably will miss the shot but the third shot in gemara is that we don't want people to do a turkey say around we don't want them to exert themselves those are the three shots so now let's go see them shot them here el amiraba a fair quiro muchon de vada ve mukhole sofic this is the first part of it it's not here yet we're developing this one that the ashes from the oven are only there for things that are certain and after things that are sufficient like akai what's up my time allah because why can't you use it for saw because you you're creating a pit and what's that that's bina [Music] making a gooma is a mccal killing a lot of them so then what's the difference ella suffolk my time of the movie t-shirt maybe you're going to do token you're going to take the clumps out you're gonna you're gonna make it fine i mean now typically so so what when it's certain you also have to be concerned about this says the gemara and actually goes into this whole areas here that usually you don't have to do so may look geyser because even if your kite is just not is the right fine but the umar says we're just on the way like the typical gemara we're going to get to the final answer which is he had in mind i'm going to use this dirt only for vadas and not for suffix okay and so that's why kai is out of it but we're going to learn other alohas beautiful stuff here if you have a deer in front of you and you have to cover its blood so what am i doing i'm being over on toichan i'm i'm taking out the clumps but i'm being making my midst of the rice of kisadam so the the big concept in chas is that a positive commandment overcomes a negative so the positive commandment the mitzvah of covering the blood overrides the negative of don't take out the clumps don't be terrified but it's not true when do i say that when it happens simultaneously but over here first i dug i i dug and i unclumped the clumps and then three minutes later i did an essay so in that case the essence they're not together ass if a baby let's say he has a taras on his bris and you're not allowed to take off a taras but over here you're performing a brisk meal which is an essay it's a mitzvah so it pushes off the lice assay of taking over taras and it happened simultaneously inami saw the mitsitsis or tzitzis they have shatnas when you put on the sharpness on your body you became the mitsus assay of census over here when you uproot the lab and you grind on yantev you're not being makai in the mitzvah of ki saddam it happens at two different times and bayla you don't have the idea of me i just saw a very interesting aloha not against so much towards sugya but it's cool nevertheless what's a bigger mitzvah to go to a tanayam of a couple getting engaged or the sudah of abrasimila which suit you're telling them how russian you think they are and they they belong together okay so the kid had a mitzvah done to him and then you're sitting afterwards and eating what are you tiny you hear this [Laughter] not every not every time happens you're right but the breast milk is 100 there's no going back on it i hear very good svara okay i think that's what he said oligarchio oh this is but that for if that's your whole excuse i have a way out of it what are you telling me that's not happening simultaneously i have a way for you to do t-shirt trina the same exact time that you do the kiss as you're covering the blood you you go like this you unclump it what are you going to do then for that i'll answer who what are you saying that it says pushes off a essa a lois essay so the answer is yantef is actually an assay and a lawyer's essay so an assay cannot push off another essay and then unless i say it's two against one why because the other says this tube took him really but took this one so this is the lice assay shabbasan is more like a an assay it's a positive you should be shy this and this is don't do melancholy okay so anyways we don't have a reason again the question why is daikan chakra koi anjantiv why can't i do kisi adam el amarava a foreign by the this individual had das only to use the ashes for avadai if he has a deer or has a bird whatever it is that's why he wants to use that was his kavanaugh and he never had his dance for a kaiser i believe if the if he didn't have that would be fine was the revelation like this let's see i had enough in this hey so you have a teapot you are going to chef this bird it's 100 you have a koi that's a that's a suffix we don't know nobody knows i just threw this in there just because i saw somebody says buffalo when we're learning you know what i don't even know what it was hulen it was like some sort of also buffalo there was a funny picture i had a picture i couldn't find it tonight what is saya in terms of so you have a baby that might have saw you in a place that you need to cover it might not maybe the baby will be in its own bedroom somewhere and i'll do this thing over there so it's not 100 yeah it's 100 it's gonna go to the bathroom the baby that's that's a given that part is a given but where are you going to need to cover it 100 no some shot boss him the baby escapes into the dining room mammish by the sharpest table and then i have to cover it and most of the time i'm able to control the baby i keep it at it fine this is suffolk but narbalayi say that it's not a suffolk it's kharavadai it's a it's a 95 chance so that's why i put both over here rapha says suffolk now below you say curve levada you see car of lava day it's very it's so carla vada that it's like a vada so it goes like this if if i have dirt let's see inside um if i had intent for the suffix like rafa says it's a suffolk according to rover not according to nero i put dirt in you hear this rabbi sai i put the dirt in i said i want to cover my spaces just in case the baby goes to the bathroom i need some dirt so what happens if i have a bird i shocked at a bird and i told my wife i'm going to shack the bird 100 for yanta what are we going to eat obviously i'm going to shock the bird what are the chances i'm going to shock the bird 100 can i use the suffolk dirt from 100 of course but if it's the reverse i set aside dirt to cover the bird that's 100 and all of a sudden the baby just made a mess i cannot use it because it's dirt for vada it doesn't go for the suffolk according to nairoblai they're both the same they're both vandaz so if i if i have dirt for a bird i could use it for tsaya if i have the third fruit sorry i use it for the bird dance machole is number one i saw by revzilla then only because i everybody knows the story that i fell into the cesspool into the tsaya so the resolution has to shield the guys in the cesspool because he says like this if what if a guy is in jail and it's very dirty there could he dive in it's better you shouldn't dab it these passing don't dive and if there's like feces everywhere don't dive in yeah what about krishna don't die but what if a guy is drowning in a cesspool i'm like this is me that happened to me could he david hear this could he dive and he's dying could he die he says oh yeah in that case maybe he could dive in because mom still i was thinking should i cover my head with soya and then dab and i would never kiss her ok i say even if he used he brought it in specifically for a vaday a bird as a vaday why kuzner blaire hold that saya is not as a vada as a bird but it's called levada so curve levada is enough for another blood [Music] hammer this is the classic rover the faint the the raven chase is this one right there of yours fine shiloh who what the names are khadomar what's going on here if you prepared dirt for soya now we're talking about something else he prepared there for soya could you go this way we were talking about the green to the red and the red to the green now we're talking about green to blue and blue to green if he prepared dirt fatsoya could you use it for a kay well if saya is a suffolk then you could use it for a kai but if saya is a vadai like nara blaise that you cannot use it you hear what's going on here if the middle one is a vadai because if you set a carbon valley baby's gonna make a mess ninety percent so they cannot use that offer for a kai which is a suffix i'll prove to you which we just did that rava is the one that says that akai is a suffolk just like says because we said before that according to rava you cannot use zipper dirt for a bird because it's a different category a bird is a suffolk uh is a suffolk so you see that rob is the one that holds it i just did this in case anybody wants to see according to rovo you're not going to go from a bird to soya because the bird is vada zoyo suffolk according to nara bloy i just did it uh like the kitchener you let it go from a tea bird totally because they're both vadas and according to rava you're allowed to go from soya to a koi why because they're both fakes and according to him zero it's us to go from soya to koi because a tsaya is a vadai and you don't go from a vada to a suffolk hmm i know but it says no it says user so i started with red and i just beca i was consistent with rava rava i know i thought about how to do it and that's why antapa was motor motor is green you see you're right you're on to something but i'm not so off red is usur green is motor but then it switches you take this sphar of rav over here that's awesome and it becomes motor when it go there's nothing you can do about it i can't change the colors but thank you for noticing says he's right i try to be consistent with the red and the green mutant also and that's i started off the chart and then all of a sudden it went haywire i mean what am i going to do romney beret ravieva omar and this is brought down aloha over here the reason why okay reason number two again we learned how they don't check i don't it's people think themselves why is this naguette to me i don't have a car i don't know what a koi is okay we'll have coys i don't know we'll have if you're stuck in africa and on a safari and you get a wildebeest a lot of chakras can you do i'm just i went no because i went online to look for a car like if anybody's pictures and one of the pictures that popped up was the wildebeest yeah yeah yeah the other way around it's different that what was that you know what we're doing wasn't it because i couldn't find any pictures in players it's probably a cool i think it's cool yeah you show us players choirs i couldn't find anything it was the difference if the mother is a girl the father's a girl the kids are the conditions in the fur in the beginning yeah in the beginning conducive that's just just as kai schloss should draw him right okay if i tell you to go ahead and cover the blood you're gonna think that it's okay and if it's higher you're going to come to eat it's river from vice fish that shows us what khaled is i don't know if this is the highest we're talking about him but just in general you should know this is what fat looks like okay some of it so the the caleb of a deer this mother of a cow is a hundred percent officer and you're going to think that this kai's mother says okay very so you shouldn't cover the blood ever even on a weekday because you might come to think that it's people might think he has a big mess of blood in his backyard so he's covering it with dirt he says anymore okay so what about chocolate bash but michaela maymar what if he did it in a place you don't have to cover it it's it's in the pile a heap of garbage he's not gonna start cleaning a heap of garbage he goes to the rav and he asks rav what to do what is the wrong going to tell him should he should he cover it or not says so in the weekday what's the problem go go ahead and do it but we're not going to tell you we're not going to pass in on yonder to go be matriarch zero so so it comes out like this from this we have another another shadow there another reason why we don't we don't uh shake the koi on young to go start spreading uh [Music] dirt hey for whatever it is on the blood is too much for you so this we can extend to something else as well let's say he had his mom is making a feast here he's shocked at a cow a deer and chicken vinosaur so for the chicken and the deer you have to do them but because there's the bahima over there forget akai one of them is bahimah and the behemoth does not require kisadam is going to clarify what that means it's a tirha to to to cover the blood now so the kumar explains um i think this is the only time in shasta is brought down and in one swoof motion he's able to cover everything so there's no reason for him not to cover he's going to do that anyways this motion he's going to do for his his is one deer that he has there's one chicken so who cares that there's a bahama also if there's a little tiny bit of blood from i've never seen that before because usually bahamas like 25 gallons but let's say you could just go like that and cover it then it's okay maybe it's like maybe it's all gathered in the vessel and it just has to cover the top so what's it have to mean if it's a deer a deer and a bird a deer and a bird in the bahama that's fine maybe i should be guys and say no the bottom line is if you have to work a little extra so it gives us a little bit of an insight what it means you know how to do things that exerts energy and by going on the second time that's too much emma mela it's also for you to do so have a wonderful evening good question and whoever wants to stick around for the second cheer starting very soon you