Daf Yomi Bava Metzia Daf 27 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good so we are here it's evening time B I'll give a she on in English and then afterwards she in Hebrew and then off to the airport going on a difficult trip to America is the very first time that we are doing a charity campaign it's a campaign to raise funds the more the better basically we're trying to grow mdy to bring Toyah to more people and they feel that me being in America more people take upon themselves uh pages to pledge to raise a certain amount of money etc etc so we're going to give the way it's looking right now is it could change any minute but I think the itinerary right now is I'm flying into Miami I'm going to spend it's going to be one sheer in Miami and the following morning flying directly to Baltimore it's going to be one Shear in Baltimore one event Shear one event Shear in Miami Baltimore then from there go to New York I don't know exactly what's going on in New York and then um what else do we have Chicago I'm going to fly into Chicago Friday be there for shavis you know T Friday afternoon m shavis in Chicago actually so any place I go I have to give two sh one in Hebrew one in English we'll have to figure that out I also have to prepare shear and I also have to do these events Chicago Sunday morning back to New York and I'll be there through April 2nd where we're doing the live the the actual day the charity you know where people get together the phone so I'll be there for that as well in New York all right so I just want to show you a couple of things here maybe more than a couple these are guys this is the first time that we have this and you'll know what I mean usually it's good morning RAB and this one [Music] is the Hebrew share gets a different one it's AR and some guy is holding mdy gor Mand says Goldman the son of Goodman I don't know what am am Goodman the one who brought me to mdy learning Aus with rebelli so am Goodman brought Mandi who moland is the one that started this thing in I think it was because of him many many people when they fly from America America they so Goodman has all these all these for Speed return of all the hostages and the Art of the month anous the for an easy child birth for his daughter and healthy baby we're holding on the bottom says if you purchase fruit from your friend and I said yesterday don't get all excited it might not apply to us you get a delivery and there's a bunch of bags of peers and apples and and there's also in there the mission says you get to keep it now it was in some sort of wallet or maybe a rubber band I don't know you have to you have to do you have to announce it this is D when you buy from a wholesaler and the wholesaler got it from other people and other people until it got you so could we don't know who money it is but if you purchase it from individual who grew the stuff himself he's with it the whole time obviously if he put it in a box and he made a delivery it's his money so what would be the today with a store it might be the same thing I don't know what I'm trying to say is don't just look at a mission and say oh this keep it it's not so simple we said the same exct thing the name sorry the T said in front of so asked the Tana the Tana is the person that announces things that that that that he's like the loud speaker he said over is is there only one person doing all the work the guy has workers the D how do you say d in in English thresh is he the only one Thresh in other words he hires workers and maybe perhaps it fell from the workers wallet or whatever pocket so why are you saying that you must return because we know who the owner is we don't know ask me you want me to chop this out and and discard this this BR completely yes you're right has workers but they all belong to him there is possession so to speak whatever if the slave finds or has money so it's like the B has money so mayw you have to give it back because no matter what either it's the owners or it's the slave the the the and that anyways belongs to the owner the Mish is sponsored by whatever fil is not here I can say whatever I want so we have two PUK here this is the same this is what you should do when you find a donkey a garment anything that you find so it says anything that you find so just say that start a what I have to say give me two examples and a gar so the says so why does the specify a garment to make and say we're going to compare things to it a garment has two things it has an identifying Mark to it there are people that are interested that want it in other words they are not M there's the owner to the this garment who didn't give up hope of finding His Garment as we're going to see in the gamar perhaps this is the main point of the mishna somebody that's demanding it that didn't give up hope the part we'll see says you need these two things you need a Simmon you need somebody that didn't give up then in that case you have to announce it you have to give it back says what does mean to say it used to be part of this it's included in means everything from a a pin a needle all the way to a lamberghini whatever you find you have to give back okay so in other words like we explained not we I we is includes all objects including a garment so then why does it have to repeat itself garment to teach us that you need you need so in this we have two of the four objects thear just mentioned we have a SIM and we have AAR but there's another before this the says two more a bull and a sheep and you're just going to ignore them once again there's a I said this a bunch of times kind of on my own maybe or maybe not that the over here says this another similar to this you see your friend's bull says says that it's referring to people to human beings that are acting like a bull that act like a sheep that they're lost when you see a lost human being roaming the streets getting up in the morning at 5:30 to catch the train to work work work come home to watch a little bit YouTube to go to sleep and then do the whole thing all over again he's a sh he's a bull he's a SE when we see somebody like that says look inside you got to bring him to mdy says check it out you got to bring him to Toyo you got to say save his life on a donkey on a human being so we have a and that's that's that's why I'm going to the United States em it's not fun it's the furthest thing from fun to travel like this and go from City to city and and sleep in funny places and eat funny food uh the food is pretty good but it's not good for me well I want to do I really feel that we could bring more and more people back to T and even those who are learning they could also gain another Sader another learn more learn more Bas whatever it is so the question is why do you need these four things says we need all four of these I would think when do you give back a garment when you have aen two witnesses and are identifying marks whatever on the actual thing if you just have a Simon on the saddle here's a Simon on the saddle different saddle I guess maybe that's not enough maybe you have to identify the actual donkey maybe you have to say hey this donkey has a a scar over here it has a limp over there whatever it is how do I know that by identifying just the saddle that's enough to give back the the whole Donkey guy comes he says it's my donkey I'll prove to you my saddle had a tear over here and was this and this color now what are you going to ask me maybe the saddle was taken from this animal and placed on another animal gor talks about it basically is going to say we'll see soon I'm not going to spoil it you can't do that it doesn't really work why we'll see huh no I think it's the actual saddle why who says this I don't know that's what he's putting there I don't know what that is Saddle is a saddle good so it says you could give it back just by the saddle now why do I need the other two animals so this is super interesting says the that the sharings of the tail of the sh check this out sim good morning say sweatshirt okay saddle SE these are the four things check out look care y on the right side by the sh all the way by his tail Bo if you Shar that you have to give it back so asks Rashi what is it how much is it worth if it's worth a pro of course anything that's worth a you have to give it back if it's worth less than a why do you have to do it so so say something interesting that let's say it's worth less than a but is that because when you cut it there's a there's a certain time of the year that you cut it and then it grows back longer and then it's worth more so your as a person who shares it you have to not that you have to return it that you have to be the barber says tisus that's what it means when you find the bull you have to deal with the bull for everything it needs cut its nails let's say just as an example so cut its tail cut the why because it makes it worth more next year and the tah says she to teach you that its shearings have to be returned if it says bu that you have to return something that nobody here in this room ever heard that you the hear of a of of a sh you have to return but if you have to return that people use the the wool for clothing for whatever theud so see if I have the PK here I wanted the PK I guess I didn't put the PK okay the point is that it says and when we learned in hold that if you have a pit and into the pit oh we do have this at least oh yeah no no I do have the POS a person creates a pit why is say something fell in there the answer is here we go here's the nothing okay what we learn from this is as follows sh a bull and if a person fall being falls in there you're not that if a vessel falls into it you're not what about that says that a vessel you are so why in the world does the Torah say so that says that word the bar which is the POS that we just showed in bar just according to because according to it's a beautiful word I need it and says I don't age agree with that I don't know what to do according to this word what does it come to [Music] say and according to and the word say you just asked me what do I do with the word say what I needed if it says a bull and the shearings of a bull so certainly the shearings of a you're right according to everybody it's a good I don't know what to tell you perhaps it's droppings maybe you have to return to droppings that have value fertilizer whatever says gor we once had a a gamar somewhere that says that the droppings of a donkey they're good for some sort of what wor a lot of money no but they they're good for like a wound no with a wound okay Kar yeah they used to make cin but I don't know how much it had no no no no the there's no have me you have to return the droppings of an animal you're going to go sit pick up droppings of an the owner doesn't care about them especially the guy he's taking care of the animal for you he's going to start making you run after the glum no as the maybe the Torah is giving us an extra word to teach us the idea that a Simmon is enough to return how do I know you give me identifying marks so maybe I need Witnesses why is that enough maybe is telling it why because I in fact have a question we had a question is going to talk about this question repeat the question later maybe that's is referring to the question later we had a question this idea that you turn an object based on an identifying Mark is that the word from since we already discussed the idea of when it comes to look our us right that's our that's why it says the idea of a garment there's two conditions when it comes to garment it has an identifying mark it has a Simon and it has somebody that wants it that's not missing certainly not to teach us s because we already learned it from SIM so there actually a very interesting thing he adds like a little twist here that he usually I don't remember this so often but he says listen the who wrote The M re and they learned they knew that say is not for because says for Sim and there was something else that we are not aware of that's what the is saying what did what did the learn from the word say which we never were privileged to learn and perhaps we could figure it out but they knew something that we didn't know turn so we go back to the so we have two or three interesting words here that are important well if you think about it a lost object from your friend which was lost okay so those words are extra you have an you have a lost object of your brother which got lost which was lost okay that's not a that's very extra so what does it come to teach us it comes to teach us it actually got lost it's something valuable because the Tor never talks about things that are less than aut less than a is not considered but sticks in a good chair that makes it even easier to understand he says the last last line on the on the since the Torah says right that was the other P that we had where was it yeah no in this p every single item maybe perhaps even something that's less than a says the no it's a real loss it's something that you consider a loss which is more than AO that is the the same thing but he learns it from a different word so now let's go to the Chart beautiful you did a great job there I should have shown you my piece of paper that I you know I don't even have my phone what yeah I actually you know what I could go into let me just see if I could do this without disturbing the whole she he took this and made this which I think is very impressive I sent in this you can see this is my handwriting what he did he did it so simple he took this what I said go with this this is what I want to chart for this great half hour later he comes up with this which is he took the POS the idea and he put it on the right side and now he shows where it's from that if it doesn't have a learns it from learns it from mutasa now the next step is how do you learn that if you find an object that that was owned by a non-jew who doesn't care about the of to begin with he's not going to return Yours you don't return his T learns it from the word learns it from the V of and finally it just makes all so simple now this is the of the Rolex a Rolex falls into the water so according to T I learn from and according to what does do with the wordu he doesn't learn it it's not something that he learns from so now let's see the inside it's beautiful also doesn't learn it good look how beautiful we go back just the it's so simple now how do you know that something boom so what's the difference where I learn from there is no difference is just how did I learn it how did the learn from which word what do I do with the word so the the way the gar does the back and forth could be somewhat confusing and here look how simple it is what do I do with the side in other words in code means not that of ID worship only to give it back if it's something that other people found you have to go down with the SC whatever it is that you are I learn from now the just right now went back to so that's why it's confusing but when you have the chart it's all simple I know this idea that so I know that you don't have to return something that fell into the ocean from the word that doesn't learn beautiful what's the difference if I learn from the word there we could still keep it up there for a second Top Line where where I know if it doesn't have a you don't return it because it says or it says what's the difference says there's no difference just how did he learn I need to know why there's no I just want to know how the learned it and I want know to learn no say B difference if you look at it means lost matasa means found oh so now think about it a difference when you found it or when you lost it perhaps this pruto is worth a pruto maybe when you lost it not when you found it it's let's say you lost something that was worth 25 cents by the time that I found it it rained whatever now it's worth 20 cents could you keep it well according to you can't why because when you lost it it was worth of PR according to it goes by when you found it because he learns it from the worda pro has to do with the one time you found that's the time you lost let's see here difference whether when you lost it it was worth the full Pro but when you found it the guy found it it's wasn't but he can't ignore the fact that says in the has to be worth oh what if it was a half of went up in price when you found it it was worth a full but when you lost it okay but you didn't gain anything by the STS why everybody agrees that you have that when you lost it has to be worth okay so this is not a good have a very cool same idea but with a little bit of a twist it was worth the when it was lost okay so you checked the Box should when it was lost it was a br it went down in value have brud so now you don't really have to return it but then it went up in value by the time the guy found it I would think you don't have to return such a thing why not why would I think you don't have to return it so you could say okay because that's that's the I would think such a thing said that maybe theot is that when you when it goes down in value there's a certain disc connect to the owner at that point he's no longer the owner was was not valuable there's no value to it he lost something that's Auto then it went down in value it's let's say it got destroyed from the world so you ask him that he's not the owner anymore destroy okay so have prut now Hally he's not the owner so then when it went back up in value maybe I think I'll just think maybe he doesn't regain his ownership does I thought it was a cute CH okay right sorry maybe Accord to say you need not maybe you need a full value of a from beginning to end and no disconnect so now that we mentioned before we mentioned that this is what the is saying in here it is have a question the idea that you return an object based on what the this guy says he thinks he has an identifying Mark and you can give it back on that is that in the or made that up what's the difference sponsored by the people I'm going to going to meet these people the if you're from i' would love to meet every single one of you even those who have complaints against me I'd love to meet you in person just keep the complaints you know I'm very sensitive so maybe don't tell me your complaints maybe afterwards in whatever the N of Baltimore Maryland in honor fish and Sim gross thanks to them 137 people learned 16,1 166 of gar over 727 th000 minutes of t with MD hopefully all of them are still on the da doing B so says the what's the difference if it's do I give back a woman a get based on identifying Mark so you have a messenger bringing get he completely lost it for a while whatever that time is he finally finds it he can identify the get has a thing there a mark there I'm divorcing the woman now she goes and she gets married to another man that's right so if she's still married to the first guy then she's how could say that she's divorced based on a on an identifying Mark okay give it back but if it's only could say something like this why because have the right to be they could take your object and give to somebody else so even if there's no such they could take any of you anything they want say he goes to them okay so they made a mistake or there's a mistake here he lied he said there's three lines going this way and there's X on the bottom it's mine so said okay take it and if it's not his they can still take it from him and give it to you but when it comes to get they can't do that they can't divorce a woman when she's still married so now we're looking to see it says in a garment was part of the everything so why does have to specify a garments based you have to announce it and give it back so what do you see from here why because it says it's a word in that's what I learned from the word Sim I've called what does the say there's two conditions that there's somebody that didn't give up hope and that it has s you know what draft s him thing the main point of the mishna is that it has that has somebody that's that wants it that didn't give up hope the threw it in there it was more like a says Rashi without a not we learned that AAR a donkey you give back just by identifying its saddle so you see that you could identify something and you have to give it back and it says in the the says it based on the word in the so this is a no who said may maybe based on two witnesses to come forward and say I know that he had a funny blue blue saddle nobody ever had a blue saddle since this do this object should be with you until your brother claims it the D from this he says that it should only be with you until as the says of course he has to demand it you have to investigate you have to look at it you have to see Guy lying not lying meaning guy can't go hey I lost the doctor give it back to me just to prove it oh so says the K you have to prove it but once he proves it once he gives you the Simon don't start being oh he probably was listening in he probably spied on me he saw it before no he said gave the Simmon once he's once you investigate shom have to give it to the IM says more of kind of thing he says why does a give a because the says that a woman is like an AA that the husband goes and searches for his his partner so AA you have to see if he's a liar or not have to see you have to be durish you have to check him out so he has to get up there in front of everybody and see if he knows his stuff or not there was actually a story here Ines practically 5 years ago where a woman called up one of these signs says anybody lose a gold necklace called this number she calls up she goes it's my necklace and through the conversation they saw she's hacking a CH it's not her necklace she's making it up so the guy that found the necklace he went around in the street and he saw other signs Rings this that he called up the numbers he said did any with this kind of voice this kind of accent do they try to get your ring he said yeah so they made a sting they they called her back and they said yeah come pick up your necklace and she came and they they they arrested her she's a GH of she was trying to steal the Lost objects this is R saying you should investigate how how investigate what's this is talking about unfortunately we had this in October 7th it took many weeks and I mean you can look it up how people just still maybe still looking for to identify victims to identify a mace it's a big thing cuz based on that a woman gets married I mentioned this also it's unfortunate but a lot of them were identified with with tattoos you know it's also tattoo um certain things identify marks some of them were burnt and it's very very difficult DNA this that so the says over here you can you're not allow to identify a body you need to see the face with the nose even though you have look he's wearing these clothing this this thing the says that this idea that you need to face with the nose is because unfortunately there's no body he says talking about just a head a skull but if the guy that Ellie Rosen who worked for me who was part of mdy I haven't seen him in a long time he uh sent me a picture he found a head of a soldier no nobody she sent me the picture saw it um it was it was past the the face part but okay you saw an Israeli gun he had a gun was a soldier gun this that just just a skull so sayar in time in that situation you you need to identify a face with a nose but if you have an entire body the are identifying marks and scars and certain things that body has they don't da need these two things so you see from here that look he has a little Mark over here has a scar in his for no I need to see his nose it's not enough so you see no this that I said that the Simmon wasn't a real Simmon not like a Simon m not like something special to this mace what s was he was a tall man he was vertically challenged that's not a Simon so I talk about the clothing he's wearing that's also a problem a guy testified in bezen that he saw this woman's husband dead so it turns out he was right he saw a person Dead with all his clothing he's wearing the same shirt trousers everything like the guy he didn't has his name you know he saw the the dry cleaner thing on on the shirt it said his name what turned out to be that this guy that died was actually a god of he stole all the clothing from this individual let's he's homeless he stole his clothing from the mikah I don't know from where and then he got killed so it wasn't a good it wasn't a good testimony can't base the testimony on clothing says the gamar if you're worried about borrowing how do you return a donkey based on the saddle people don't lend that out it really in other words each each each saddle has a different shape each animal has a different shape so if I borrow your saddle it's going to hurt my animal and it's going to ruin my saddle because they have a [Music] different it wasn't a real Simon you hear it wasn't a real Simmon because the it was red black it wasn't he wasn't saying a real a real Simmon not like oh it said this word on it or something just a color many many clothings have that color says you found the here a a right now no they're still going the S are still going you have to ruin it you got a good point you he he found a get that's tied up here we have a picture beautiful picture get tied to to wallet to Signet whatever it is he found between his different things that's a good but if you're concerned about people borrowing wallets and stuff if it's tied to to wallet why it maybe somebody lent it's interesting I just gave my son who's sitting right over here y I just gave him my wallet not a wallet I wasn't using I just gave it to him why am I saying that because of the next line he say kiss people don't lend out their wallets whyi it's like a certain Kish like a certain belief that people have that this guy's wallet has a certain maszle and you're giving over your maszle to somebody else I don't mind giving it to y'all but to a regular person I don't want to I don't want to lose everything I have and give it to somebody else says what about you're not all to believe in these things oh you can't go under a ladder he can't go this he can do that say no but if it's Ru if it's real I know that that this is what it is going on the ladder 20 people went under a ladder and they they became they got a heart attack a half hour later that's not that's a fact so if I see that people are actually becoming wealthy and the guy that gave the W he becoming poor then it's not a it's a real thing and there's no the a saer came out maybe 100 years ago he says that's why you're not allow to you're not allowed to lend your wallet to somebody he passing like that you shouldn't what you cannot marry off a Woman based on a wart okay person has a wart everybody knows this guy has a wart right over here and for it as a wart so I saw a dead person with a wart is that enough to marry her off that's not a Simmon you could marry off a woman with a war based on a Wars the Simon is we whether or not this is a Simon or not so a number of answers over here no no no 100% the Simon is the very interesting thing according to Rashi if somebody's born on the same identical maszle as you okay the same star this line the the the Stars lined up the same ex the born the same moment so according to he'll have the same wart as you in the same exact spot is that true or not in the r says that benil with the same masle actually if somebody has the same exact masle and he goes visits the person that has the same masle that has a disease he's the person that will take away the 60th of his no no no no there's not such thing you have the same Ma you don't get the same wart as the other guy interesting the oh so maybe maybe identical twins don't have the same masle just thinking maybe it's like they're off by a minute because otherwise they have the same exact reward the same thing maybe they do so what's this I Tred to look it up but not good I got grossed out right away I put in like Ward postmortem does it change color or not sh don't ask what I found okay it's not not a good idea so do the does the coloration of the ward change the words change color not today it doesn't maybe it doesn't mean could you think of any skin blemish you're a dermatologist there's no skin blemish that the the color of the skin turns different colors right the dead person changes colors so maybe the blemish changes with it and goes no not really okay that's why I couldn't find anything this is like it's hard to understand when when argu something like this no no it doesn't change like the like like Dr sh doesn't change and in fact when when a person has a very very distinct scar a distinct Simmon is that enough to marry off a Woman based on that a nice W is not the biggest Sim in the world there plenty of people have the same W same spot if you say that a is not why do get into this whole problem and it's a why did they get into it if a Sim is not their R why would they bother with it why would they give it back says thear interesting thing the guy that finds the object he wants to give back the object based on a Simmon because he wants it to happen himself it's like what goes around comes around I'm going to return it to somebody based on a Simmon and you're going to return based on a Simmon it's good for me so that's why we do it so there's a shw there's a famous story where old man he wanted people to visit him but nobody came to visit him so he put up a big sign that his apartment is for for sale so people started coming in and out of his apartment and when they said how much do you want they said $20 million and they would leave but every day he got 10 people to come visit him so the they you know one of these one of these stories and they asked I'm not going to say who and he said it's m why because just like you if you were that age you want somebody to come visit you so what comes around goes around you visited him anyways you have a to visit him whatever fine next BB question you can't mean that re me this the finder allows this found object to go to somebody else because one day when he loses the object he Al but he's not the owner how could he give it away to somebody because he wants it he wants it to come around to him it's not even his you have to say the owner the true owner says I want my AA to be given away to the rful own based on identif identifying marks may I don't have I don't have witnesses nobody knows what I know about this I have great so I'll I'll get it because I I can figure it out the owner is the one that's saying it not the finder and the owner says and next time you'll do it on on your a etc but we learned something different that what do we say starting not starting finishing we had this if you find three documents that say that one person ruin owes money if they all have the name of the Mal give it back to the Mal they all have the name of give it back to you only give back you only give back when it's good for you here's the case it's not good for you doesn't want the start to go he's going to go sue him for the money too bad over here it's solid logic you found it with the name give it back to the it's impossible that came from you have three different documents with one guy's name obviously fell from the why he give it back to the same idea in other words it's not a question of just such a strong logical what's the word stick in the word here it's so strong logically that we give it back to the MAA forget it's impossible it's not the Wonder listen I'm going to say it again R have a wonderful day but do not fall off I'm going to be gone for like n days be Stark come to my meure if you can do not fall off like a bunch of people fell off last time I came back from America no Vol have a wonderful [Music] day