Daf Yomi Bava Metzia Daf 18 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good [Laughter] morning welcome welcome everybody thank you for coming shom you're not a guest but what is your name what from you live here you just made a Aliah right how long ago 10 weeks 10 weeks already should go well um I just want to share with you this is a clip from the Hebrew Shear it's in Hebrew but my son put subtitles I thought it was very very nice uh just a background there's a very young uh individual schlomo cooperman he's Hart's uh Cat's Cat's grandson he wrote an article about MD Y in this mishak in Hebrew and they're probably going to translate it to English it come out in a in a few weeks so I called him up he was in Rome and I think I mentioned that in Rome he played the piano in the airport I said the story it went viral basically he was he played at tikva in middle of the airport and a white guy got up and said free Palestine and then kept on walking okay but I didn't show that part because it's too long but here is another it's a very cool story this part I thought was very very [Music] interesting get over here [Music] for [Applause] for wow [Music] okay so anyway two people within two days told me it's the first time in their life that they brought a safer on a trip and they learned the second guy B when he told me the story he was shaking I saw him outside here and he said twice he repeated twice my wife was very proud of me my wife was very proud of me so all right here it goes I got a it it it's here it's here the way it works is you make a team you take a page you say I think I could raise x amount of money $100 I think I can raise $100 for mdy right and if you don't raise the $100 you don't raise the $100 no nothing happened but you think you could so barash under 30 people first of all we already have 200 think about this we already have 230 teams we're looking for many many more we didn't do anything here we're gonna have a get together MOA is running it if anybody wants to help him out to to help facilitate it and get the together uh contact him I'll call upon him the from the 230 teams 30 already figured out how much they want to raise per team and here's 30 of the teams 30 people here they are check this out I don't I'm starting off on the wrong foot because I don't know how to pronounce his name even Eli afria something like that $5,000 upon himself is Goldstein $10,000 for a total I'm just going to tell you the total from these 30 people $125,000 I think it's very for a nice start y Schwarz a th000 do Lankin 3500 ab800 yob I got all your emails $10,000 s m from Chicago $20,000 upon himself Simon Stern 1,000 shraga blitzin 5,000 pinkos akilov 2000 Dy Dy the famous Dy 2,000 do Franco 5,000 razel weisburger 1,000 TR b a thousand from 5,000 tm.com yov Moda and Moda Newman 1,000 Lippy get that there're th000 and here's a list for Montreal the entire Montreal and there's more to come each one except upon themselves 5,000 not Canadian MOA M spe Yoni Renard user nyim Benedict K Weber David sebag sabag something y'all see these are French names this is y'all see twe yov oh here we said his name already he was the first one on the us burtz all for $55,000 now say one thing I want to show you maybe we could blow this up this is not a very clear one but if there's incentives that's what do you think the is doing this for if you raise $10,000 you get a free room at the next shabbaton you raise 3600 bucks you get 3600 three $360 off the room and $1,800 you get $12 off the room huh uh less than a year a year from the another one every year this so there are incentives go on to how do you register for a room over here how do you uh what's the thing for the page anybody know where is to no it says over here charity.com mdy and you go get a page there it's not a big deal low pressure let's say you say you want to raise $1,000 and you don't raise a th nothing happened no no's going to come after you what Char with a d yeah that's the right way to spell the is sponsored by Anonymous for the safe and Speedy return of all the hostages and the moid ra Feinstein he was he was his L was on here and I was in I was at his Lev in America we did were you by the pole no the in the middle yeah only one van one pole I was by yeah father that's where we met each other we met each other by kki the 15th of other no no [Music] was really but okay interesting my grandfather first is [Music] today anous needs a child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby I forgot to put the video of K it's a classic K is with the p and the whole thingand was not a and he went to visit him in the in the in the hospital here very nice mdy headquarter Coffee corner and beverage week mental Learners making here in honor my daughters and one reminder I want to tell the that we just finished and for all those who want to start and begin one of came over to me last week one of the guests he said he does but he's never finished the full say forever in his life this is the first time that he ever finished the consistency of The Da goes very hand in hand with mikra you could do an alah day it's only about eight minutes a day how long does it take you Donnie you go by the emails if if it's short so you do it shorter so you have control basically oh oh I have control you just made it longer what are you doing so what did you do last week with that super huge schi what was it sheny Ori three three email days my fault okay okay so rabai we have to do a little bit of Kazar here which never hurts basically we have to do an of Kazar not inside so the last the top words go on the bottom words of and that is said a here we go I just put it over here uh I wrote this up between the English and the Hebrew Shear uh last night I'm holding today is I'm just going about here that if somebody finds a document that was made in bezant such as auba sorry not fine if somebody comes forward saying that they have auba and they cannot produce the actual document or they say my husband owes me alimon my husband owes me child support this is a the husband or whoever the person on the other side doesn't have the right to deny it you can't say oh I paid it off why because when once it's AZ it this comes from bz this is a that you must give your wife a everybody knows that this zba at a wedding so even if she doesn't produce the actual Cuba you can't deny it it's as if she's holding the actual kba okay so that's number one does anybody remember what happened next step Next Step was that the says what is the in that says if a person if a woman comes forward with a get not auba so she could demand payment forba just with a get so thear says you it's not such a this is a yeah you could learn it from the mishna however you'd have never thought about it yourself I'm the one that kind of woke you up to this and now that I told it to you oh you found it in the mishna but before I mentioned it to you you didn't see it in the mishna I said that it's like sort of like when you start looking into a certain car all sudden you're on the highway you notice that car the guy in front of you has that car but because you you thought about it now you notice it that's a you find a pearl underneath a stone so this is where it becomes important to us right now today where AB says what kind of Riot do you have from that mishna why is it the same thing that Mish says that if a woman comes with a get then you could use the get as a maybe it's because that place where she produced the get it's a city that doesn't write the minut over there is not the right exba as we learned inas some cities write suas some cities don't write auba in that City where you don't write auba so you produce a get you get your money why do you think that's a in the entire world even in cities that you do write auba maybe in a city that you write auba you have to produce auba who told you say sayaba it's no that I made a mistake no not a good Kasha mistake and this is an Auda that we're going to be talking why did he take it back so he says I'll tell you why he took back because there's something called an arusa an Engaged woman not married yet if her dies she gets auba and you don't write SBA s is not written anywhere but it's a known thing that you get auba how would you get auba so here's a case of a city or a world where you don't write auba and she gets and she demands auba so you see there's no na for a place that you do write place you don't write exba even if you don't write auba you still ARA gets auba so says but wait a minute who told you AR even gets auba how do you know gets it's a great you could retract what you said if you know you made a the bottom the last last part is you made you establish a rule that a get and based on that rule you you have a r who told you that a gets you try to prove it so now we're holding over here two lines from the top oh so how do we know that gets it says in if your engaged wife we call her a wife Kal let's call her if you're you don't treat her as a regular wife if a person is a kind and his wife dies he's not allowed to eat Kum that day that he's the day of the death you're from you don't need K as a you don't need K here's a list of the seven that a is supposed to become to a father mother wife son daughter brother sister that's not married to anyone so to be to go to the be with the deal with the Dead this is just a Kala she's not his wife yet yes he gave her a ring she's but you don't go to and so she in return she doesn't act the day of his death and she doesn't become to him now the here's the so let's see Rashi what does it mean she doesn't become Tom to him who cares she's not a she's a maybe a woman is not on this is of becoming Tom so Rashi explains it beautifully and this could be a good Shiloh that you could ask your friends here's the question if a person has a death in his family Loy yeah somebody's father dies and he is regular guy he doesn't feel like going to the Levi he doesn't feel like dealing with the Dead do we force him to go do we not force him to go he could choose what he wants you're not going to believe this to me we force him we take him tie him up throw him in a taxi kick him out right in front of the AR and say go that's what we do says rash does not become to this not she she has no to make sure that she doesn't come it's only for the men she's not to deal with the dead why a person has aah to deal with the Dead the seven relatives in the it's a positive it's not oh it's a heter it's a you should become to her and here's the here's the kicker and if the person doesn't feel like becoming Tom to to his relatives we force [Music] him all right so therefore says rash we don't force her what does it mean she shouldn't become a woman doesn't have a problem becoming T oh you're right she doesn't but if she doesn't feel like going to her's funeral we don't force her if she dies there's no inheritance why look at this oh let's do that again that's a nice one I like it if there's no inheritance you give the inheritance so means to his flesh only then when there's after then you inherit a wife otherwise you don't inherit M who and this is what we're looking for right over here M who if this not a married man they're just engaged you're asking me how do you know thata gets Au here it says if the guy that's engaged to her dies she gets a George was selling Insurance in the United States Army and he had 100% success rate life insurance they couldn't they didn't understand what so they went they put some listening devices and this is what he said he told people like this if you die today at Battle your wife will get $1,000 if you buy insurance your wife will get a million now think about it if you're running the Army who are you going to be sending into these very very dangerous missions the guy that gets $1,000 or the guy that the Army has to pay up a million dollars think about it I think it will be in your best interest to get the million dollar insurance we'll never send you on any dangerous missions so over here mes if he dies she does she she gets the entire so what's the's answer obviously like we said before it's not a that gets maybe we're talking about a case that he wrote you know what he's going to go out of his way like SP him do today they write these crazy large cuas if a was 200 Z they they add another $50,000 $100,000 somebody scream here the other day 2250 $250,000 he added to his wife's Cuba so why stop there such a thing so because they can cuz they can they feel like it but it says over here that maybe the WR wrote auba typically you don't have to in this case he did it's not a right that every single arus in the world gets auba and if that's the case that it's a special situation where he went out of his way and he wrote so what's the answer is right there's no in that but there a that there's no when she dies and they're not considered married until they actually there's a so let's go back now we have to go back to this little list over here and we're not going to go through the whole list the bottom line is AB asked a question AB says that the mishna is not similar to yeah said If a woman comes to bz and says hey I have a pay up and she doesn't produce a kuuba we still pay her theba why because it's Bez and bezan is as if she's holding theba B made him make make a so she doesn't have to produce the actual document say that's similar to the mishna inas and says it's not similar to the mishas why because maybe in the Mish is talking about a place that they don't then Second Step from the bottom where the red arrow is and he says no I made a mistake look arusa doesn't write auba and we give herba there's no way she the guy can't say parti you see is right okay but how do you know that how do you know the second from the last step how do you know that we just try to prove it now we don't have we don't have any proof even if you say here maybe the wrote it it's not a general rule so still how do you know that a get auba and you don't write it for her where do you know that and she still could collect every arus in the world gets auba without actually producing a document if the if the dies she comes to bz no problem they give it to her said you don't need to produce how do you know maybe the guy wrote it the guy that gave extra 50, 250 because he can he put it in writing maybe that's okay how do you know you don't write says the hello that's I'm just trying to explain what this is proved it from the actual Mission that's why he retracted and said you're [Music] right if you're telling me that that Ming subas is talking about again what happened over there a woman comes with a get to Bon and she says here's my get I want to get paid 200 so you see from there that she doesn't have to produce auba so AB says but maybe he asked the question maybe over there is talking about it's a city that they don't like subas so the get stands instead of EX he says no you can't say that why because if it's in such a city that the is not to WR and that's why we accept the get in of the the get to get what kind of what is this get get doesn't talk about any kind of money so do I know whether she deserves 100 200 how am I paying her off based on a get perhaps once say look we're not writing subas in the city and come forward with a get and that's enough so it's as if it's written inside 200 100 how are you going to know who's 200 100 you'll figure it out you ask people that went to the wedding was was she wearing a Huna whatever it is do you know she's a a whatever we'll figure it out but the point is that the get says money in it as if so then the guy could just say I paid and this is basically what we do today I think once s Schomberg told me how how they rip it three times or something what did you tell me do you remember was it you or get what how many times they fold and rip it in certain places in four four place so here even today we ripped a get that's why I'm the only person in the world that has a real get a valid get unrapped you not have a get Donald Trump's get I don't want anybody to should ripped it no the guy will say you know why I didn't rip it the woman didn't let the wife didn't let the ex she didn't let I need to get to prove that I could get married to somebody else but you should have done what we do today we rip it and we write on top of it what do we write these words this G that we ripped it's not because this get is p this is what we write we write on the get this get is not possible this was a great get the reason why we're ripping is we don't want her to come and collect her two times so so answers what you think a person every think about it anytime somebody pays you back a loan it happened in B happened a lot of times a woman comes forward to her husband pay off theba here and he pay doesn't he doesn't rip he doesn't write he doesn't know what to do he just pays off theba see from here proves from the Mish that you cannot sayti when does you have a get the Miss over there talks about that she produces a get not auba and whatever you want to say you should have done this you should have done that you should have written this way that way the point is you pay off when you have a get you pay doesn't say 100 doesn't say too bad it's a anytime you have a you come forward she comes forward with a get she doesn't have to ruce and the husband has to pay that was from that Mish says the oh there's a new sponsor for the mishna and I forgot to put it in you have it sorry May every Mion we conquer take us from strength to strength oh yeah baby [Music] maybe we could take that last part out okay had one laugh you allow that in I sent it to you you didn't respond why are you send it to me that's the question fine a person found in the street a get or a docum that that releases the slaves a document for he gives away his belongings now what if he doesn't if the person that he wanted to give his way his belongings to he never got it and he takes it back he regretted of course he can regret it mat I give you a gift in writing and then I take it back I can take it back receipts if you find these documents don't give them back why because I say that yes he wrote the document but he never delivered the document okay it's possible just because he wrote a document doesn't mean you acted on it you you wrote the document then before you actually gave the guy the gift it fell out of your pocket now somebody found it so says the G by the way you're all going to be bored here besides the new guys because we learned this gamar word for word in G and you all remember every word here obviously so we're going to go a little quicker than usual I remember the joke wow it's not a joke what you're saying he says he remembers the jokes so we had here the Bak y why and he remembered he remembered the people the names of the people I used the says oh you use G you use this one it's true I went back and those were the names I used so people remember some strange stuff they don't remember the actual gamar they remember listen as long as you remember something good time if if you find a get what's the problem you don't want to give the get because maybe the guy doesn't want to get divorced maybe he he took it back by the the time he got home he he cooled off a little bit what if the husband says no no no it's a good thing he found a get I was T looking for it I you found the get here you found it here let's give her the get give it her now what could be the problem why what's a big so yeah he he wrote a get he dropped it you found it two months later what's the problem why can't you use it huh so dates are good so what it's a good get oh so the answer is that we're concerned and this is a interesting concern that's also concerned that perhaps somebody else in the city has the same exact name yeah let's say you're in Williamsburg and it says y Y and I don't know what the re's name is or in Crown Heights and or [Music] breast how many of those are there thousands millions not man very few mans there's uh there's a school in it's EMS there's a school it's called that over there when the rebi screams out like 25 because they're all or why you beat up you know what I'm saying it's like okay if you don't if you L you if okay the two the two Rosas in the mirror you see so like Generations later there's a lot of that have name and a lot of they learned this one super place anyway it's possible look it's possible in the same city same people have the same name that's what I said I said and we said yeah you were thinking about something else [Music] okay yeah oh oh Sorry's a concern we have a problem now remember this we're going to use this Mish it's a mishna we're going to have a contradiction to this mishna says in the Mish you are to bring somebody's get and it got lost from you if you found it you lost it yeah you're in a basement it dropped you realize it fell out of your pocket you you look you find it okay use it not a problem Rashi says right away means before the next bus came before the next sha the next Caravan came okay why what's the problem with Caravans once you add more people into the mix now your statistics go up you have many more many more y it becomes a problem by the way in Bells it's also to use the name iron now they made it like is you can't use IR anymore because it becomes too too confusing now there's a problem to make a when the father has the same name as you so a lot of people at least that's their excuse you know I'm single now I'm 50 years old CU all the they have iron iron so they made it no seriously no more irons for now posle if you found this get after a long time whatever the shear is a certain amount of time let's say a day two days three days whatever it is cannot use it why because I'm concerned that maybe the get you found is not the get that you're looking for Bo what's the problem if I write write a get B this divorcing this person it happens to be the same exact name as two other people so what's the problem Fitz everything is galic very good with the agreement with the you have to do you have to know yes it's the right name but has to be this couple these people so the understands by the way we're just going to I just want to point it out here so we don't have a problem later this contradiction is asked by RAB why because Raba answers we're going to understand that RAB asked the question why when don't you give it back when there's a constant flow of people can mean in the it can mean in a train station can mean in a bezin it can mean in a very uh popular phaf store whatever there's a lot of people a lot of people are coming and going like that the yamaka store in in May every American has to go there so okay sh a lot of people coming from all over the world so check this out says RAB there are two conditions in order not to give a get back I need two conditions first of all I need a lot of people there A lot of sh a lot of how do you say shis traffic Caravans traffic second of all convoys I need to know that in this city the the the the husband and wife there's another couple that have the same names as the husband and wife shim if the husband has the weirdest name okay his name is Elvis let's say there's no chance in the world or is Elvis what's your wife's name Rachel Rachel and Elvis okay no you're good you're good that's a problem you need two conditions because if not I went back to the she for some strange reason I started singing here from the top you hated it you made a a and I asked to sing with me and they saying I'm not going to do it it now again don't worry about it why you no no why I have no idea because there's nothing else to do on the da I don't know it reminded me maybe I just read it wrong can't imagine why I didn't like that what I should have tried it again and see what happens let's see if the people do the same thing saying because otherwise a contradiction was a that was found in ra that is is it yes yeah there's many many people coming in and out all day long that's what the says it says in the get in this city calleda says the helmets are coming give me the phone oh you started playing ad I didn't hear what happened I thought it's his phone ringing so listen to him no it's not a problem as as with it we're concerned that there's another city right I'm sure there's there's every a lot of cities have the same I don't know about raes but this this somewhere else there's this somewhere else there's always a city somewhere else that has the same name as your city every state has every state has a [Music] Springfield every all 50 states have a Springfield okay good I thought it's only in Illinois [Music] okay okay so let me ask you something your tour guide how many did you ever see double cities in AR that have the same name like what yeah today okay there's only one ah so a guy comes from I know in Chicago they have it's called they have a whole building where people that come from to collect money they could stay in this building for free so you get to meet a lot of people that are also collecting so two guys strike up a conversation and the guy says I'm planning I just came from I'm planning to go to the the big who oh he says he says oh that I just was by him today who that by the way I was the the smallest G in my our that's our anyway so he says I'm going to this guy the G so he says let me tell you what happened we were we were in I was at his house and he asked me a BB on as me he said what did he ask you he says okay there's a steer in the rambam over here and this that thank you very much he runs he goes across the street to he opens up a and starts stagging away goes through the whole opens up goes through all the raid opens in the back he says oh ra back forth and then he goes to the on the guy's door I had this unbelievable sh had he says no no say the ra says he says Oh you mean what do you mean he says yeah yeah no talks about it he says this that he said well I'll ask you something else he starts the is like wow this guy so what are you doing here in America he says you know have to make no problem pays him the so he comes and ask he says this is what they say says no that's called you got lucky that the guy told you about his big Kasha and you prepared that's called okay insider trading so something similar happens over here tells RAB listen [Music] H Oh you mean uh oh joining the D sponsor thank you before I say the joining the do sponsor if you're already here and you didn't listen to the emails I got you we already have 27 people that took upon themselves well we have 230 people that took upon themselves a page a page means that you think that you could collect a certain amount of money and and you make a page you go to charity.com oh here it is charity.com mdy and that was nice as I'm talking boom no doesn't even have to put it in so you can take upon if you're here in take upon yourself 35 shek you might be able to raise it send it to your grandmother and she might send you 18 and it's not that bad if you made 18 shekele times you know 20,000 and I was thinking about it we might we might have right now 25,000 people that watch this year how many tens of thousands watch this year and not part of this year how many people have so we have to reach out to them too so you take it by yourself so 27 people only 27 people so far decided how much they want to do out of the 230 those 27 are have a goal of $125,000 I read off the names in the beginning sh if you're curious to see go back to the emails in the beginning you'll see the whole list Simi mandle bam 20 $2,000 and you Golding $10,000 those are and all of the guys from Montreal $5,000 each but don't feel pressur you don't have to take 5,000 take a th000 especially 35 she here in we're going to get a bunch of people together be 3500 sh anyway the Turning of the is sponsored by kov in honor of my uncle and by of Baltimore Maryland in honor official and thanks to them 137 people learned over 16,000 and 7 27,000 minutes of so he says like this listen tomorrow rauna showing up here I need to look into the Su very nicely so that you know it's flying go look into it night I have inside information inside traitor information I know what he's goingon to ask you so he actually went to the B opened up the and he actually found a bomb says call anytime you find AAR from bz you give it back and we're not concerned that maybe we have people with the same exact name that that also lost thear listen to what happened they have the same name Elvis and Rachel and they both dropped thear in a public place and somebody found them for that I'm not [Music] so but so many people come in and out it's like a court in America you hundreds all day long and Rabbi says give it back how's it possible if we look at this chart right over here Rabbi says do not give it back if you have these two conditions and RAB over here says you do give it back why obviously you don't have these two conditions if one of these two conditions is missing then you could give it back which one of the two conditions are missing it can't be the one on the right because it's in it has this constant traffic there must be that there's no otherwise it would be a massive contradiction on obviously you need to have two conditions in order not to give it back because RAB pass you could give it back why is R ra passing you could give back AAR a get that you found with two names because you didn't know it's not a known thing that there's two people with the same exact names the fact they have is not enough not to give it back you do give it back with says RAB once ping you give back a get that was found in the street that what was found they found it in P in a place that does flax you gave it back so I actually have you guys remember this video but I have to show you this video because it's incredible we all speak English here listen carefully don't make noise listen carefully it sounds like he's speaking German the guy is speaking English 100% no one is going to understand the word until you say hey break it listen to this I guess he's from Scotland unbelievable it's not like he he was born speaking this is how we the flag pulled the last day so we're going to take you can put the scotch way the Scot way or English way you but so or St it but the English word is red so what doing it roughly up to 7 to 11 days may moreing you take it out you take it out down and you break it you break it he talking English fig out I don't know what it sounds like anyways you know how to speak that language you understood what he said that was not English English there's no way that's SC Ireland I don't know what it is you guys are mess that's English English you all need a anyway so what's going on here he found a get in this place so either this place is a lot of people it's the marketplace of of cotton of of flax so M you have to say that in order not to have the two conditions there's a lot of people you have the one on the right so you don't have the one on the left you don't have even though there's many people coming in and out no it's a simple place like this guy right over here it's a place you just soak the flags so there's not a lot of people so what do you have you have the condition on the left you have but you don't have the condition on the right but says the check this out we have the miss that we had on that says in the Miss that if you find the get lost if you find it don't give it back he asked from and he has the answer first of all it says this is what we said find it right away give it mean I from that says in the it says it says it says in the M that if you find it after a period of time you don't give it back in the it says you do give it back contradiction what does it say you find a it says give it back even after a long time it seems like isn't that a [Music] contradiction and if the husband doesn't admit you don't give it back why don't you give it back say if the husband has the get he won't pay Theo if she has a get she might get married it's very dangerous don't give it back to anybody but it says says you do give it back you see the contradiction and the says seems like even after a very long time says answer when don't you give it back when there's a lot of people there when there's not a lot of people you can give it back in order to explain some people say when we know that we establish there's two other people in the same city with the same names then you don't give it back that fits right into RAB what we have the two conditions boom that's RAB yeah if you want to go back we can go back to the two not these two two conditions over here even if you only have one out of the two conditions you only have you don't give it back that's he argues now let's do this we had ask a question from Ab on the Mish the Mish says and the says take a look at this had the same question but he asked from a mishna the m in in says says and he found now says he doesn't ask the the contradiction like here now let's see together ask a mish simple if you have a choice to ask a contradiction you're going to ask the contradiction from mishna to mishna from the same author to the same author from Reb from Mish which is the strongest possible text that we have which is a mish rather than asking from ABA ABA was written by Reb's talm most of them and it's not doesn't have the same validity it's not as strong sometimes a br is not correct a mishna has to be absolute so of course R is going to ask a contradiction on the right from a but it's not understood why chose to ask the contradiction from a inste from where does it say anywhere in the mishna they give it back after a long time it doesn't say that maybe the Miss is talking about a case where he found it two minutes after he lost it doesn't say the time as we saw before that it's possible that argues in Rab and holds you only need one of these two conditions not both so what would be the argument between him and RAB you don't need the condition of that you know that there's two people with the same name only then you don't give it back you don't give it back when there's a lot of people coming in with Caravans and what's what's the source of it says when you find the document from bz you give it back listen to this this is a little bit of a jump we have to understand RAB a little bit aren't we talking about it was written by bz and you found it in bz oh and is like there's a lot of people and in addition and if this two people with the same names then you don't give it back Mas that if you don't have that condition you could give it back says does it say anywhere that he found it inside of a it says it's only a document that was written in but in fact maybe he found it outside of B where there's no but if you don't give it back this BR that says that you give back a get that you find because we have testimony from we have two a that testify right I don't think anybody in this room ever signed on a get it's the most right who sign on a get you signed on a get okay one person signed on a get did you sign on two G I used to sign in Buffalo everybody SC ah so you sign a lot of so you're a great example of what we're not looking for or maybe no we are looking basically the per the two ADM say listen we only sign one get in our life with the name Elvis and Rachel and therefore it's impossible that this get is from another couple with the same name with the same a because we never signed them to so so what's this is really going to throw you for a loop but maybe still we still have to be concerned that maybe the husband and wife have the same name Elvis and Rachel I don't like that name uh Ruben and Chim and huh yeah but it's a get that's why I say I don't like the fact it's a get but also the witnesses have the same exact name with the same fathers that's already too far maybe I'll think I'll be concerned let's just do this a little bit Yeah do we have two minutes to call he has something it's look at this it has a hole and it's right by this in this place of the get that is what we call sorry not it's called Simon M Sim means it's not just a Sim it's not just a whole I'll tell you what letter it's by there's a story that uh a guy found a gold coin and as he picks it up somebody runs over him says that's my gold coin wasn't I know that if you find money this on the spot but I saw you pick it up so they went to the nus and nus looks at he ask him questions he realized that the guy that came over to say that it was his coin is a liar so he tells him listen do me a favor step outside I need to talk to this person for a second the guy steps outside and he says nice and Loud he says listen I'm going to ask him soon you see this scratch right over here right by the one between the one and the zero that's a nice scratch right you ask okay okay call him back in now obviously that that put his ear by the door he was listening to every word that was said so he comes in and he says you have any on the coin says yeah yeah there's a scratch right next to the one okay get out of here you liar says the it's only when he's he's doing but if it's just a whole not rash has a suff when you give a person his item back based on a Sim like we're going to have pretty soon in a few days in is it how do I give somebody an object based on because of hefz Hef bz has the right to take it from you and give it to somebody else but when it comes to get to divorce somebody it has to be a because if it's only the it doesn't work and he lost the get in the B after a long time they found it and he didn't have a SIM he did not have a listen I have a little Simon I have a visual recognition I recognize this they gave him back to I don't know if they hold that a Sim that's why they gave it to me because of Theon they gave it to me because of the visual recognition says only person that use visual recognition is and in the ran says that a regular person could also use visual recognition for other people not for himself have a wonderful [Music] day