Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 65 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] after going through Friday's wordy and repetitive da we ended with the T that stated that sometimes a POS will include a lot of extra words just to bring out one it seems that the D itself may be designed to illustrate that entire concept as you pointed out usually when the has a match off between just use the word to switch between the sides but here the went out to be rep went all out to be repetitive perhaps to bring home the point of the last piece of Ral also thanks for your explanations of cloud CL and the contrast will now stick with me throughout our travels through sh looking forward to continuing the adventure C multi Rosenberg non Everglades division of Florida mdy we have the Everglades division we have the non ever we have Miami we have North Miami we have boka what else huh is in charge of everything all the divisions and the non- divisions he makes it non de from boram wood no no no pronounce boram wood that's what it says here how do you pronounce it bwood maybe the way he pronounced it wasle okay he wrote it b o r a m wood Bor wood okay how thought you Shar for the D today Bama 64 was M such clerk kite superb also wanted to say thanks for the Hebrew Shear for the following reasons it makes the English one even clear especially the jokes and the stories gives me a chance to thank my year seven teacher at reie Jeffrey schisler as it as it thanks to him I can understand the shear there Al another great way to feel connected to so thanks for that as well thanks again your tal Mark PS thanks also to do Harris and the UK team for my smartphone which brings further G to the either in or English the COO Manchester mom is growing this a guy in the back taking a video of the video sh we don't see oh that's y i see the pace I don't see the face y see bang down a little bit okay n from Lakewood Mal that's the co of the month for the unity of that come from supporting there's a I met a that lives Mish next door shagi shagi you guys know him I don't even know if knows this do you know that on day one a helicopter went down they shot down a helicopter a lot of people don't even know who was on that helicopter you don't know it because they don't ad it oh they don't want people to know no no no no I saw a video of it I told him I I said I told his brother I don't believe it's true and they sent me a clip that was on the news that this okay we're not going to say it again and nobody's listening it's only who's listening there 10 people here so anyway I spoke to him at length it's crazy like 60 were on this thing and they all walked out in one piece and yeah they but so they need they need a real ref just the amount of stuff that he was in Barry him and his whole group were in Barry the day of and the they they got rid of all theim over there and the things that they saw from the the enemy and the non-enemy it's it's unbelievable you know they need a real the mon we said all the Relentless commitment to in memory of from Anonymous of Manchester who joined the she at the beginning of and believe it or not there's no the art of of the month sponsored Anonymous for the for an easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby say I have a tough one today first of all what's your name what's the first name from oh said hello to the over there they were on before they're saying hello they're waving to you now who else do we have here so G this is only England and you're also from England RAB Schomberg you're not supposed to be you're like you feel a little I also feel a little awkward you let everybody in the very okay we have any that's it no guess huh who I don't see no no you're new you're haven't been here a while yeah yeah he's been there many times you're facing this way you don't see okay he comes for the Hebrew one we I have a shil like this I want to think not the guys that were here on Friday huh no no you're new kak I've seen you around what's your name Newman nman okay where do you live gim there's a bunch of guys from giml you're from gim you were here before okay good G so have a like this don't don't fall asleep in the beginning is a good one you have who wants to keep the object that they gave him to watch and he lies and he says it was stolen and he goes ahead and he Che this animal and he he swore that it was stolen then we find out that he's lying made a the what's 25% he's he's the pens let's say do he's always four times the am okay so I have a question is it possible for the 25% so let's take an example he stole a sheep that cost $100 so has to pay back $100 he also has to pay $400 because he has the four times the amount who gets the 400 the guy that own the anal he also has to pay 25% so how much is 25% $25 is it possible that the instead of it being $25 is actually $400 that the and the equal the same amount or the C huh we're going to see in the sui why not that's the to pay so the answer is yes and it's a gaval thing it's like a it's a riddle how do you get there how do you get to this amount how do you how is it possible that the and the are the same amount let's call it C $200 and the which is supposed to be 25% of the object that he stole is also $200 anybody have a hav me or how how to come it's it's a riddle how do you do it there's two ways two completely different ways all right so we're holding eight lines from the bottom we're just learning let's see if we have it here no okay we don't have that we'll go later but we're learning the of ghav and ishov a guy that that that's claims that it was stolen and we find out he is he has to pay kful but he also he makes a he swears so says maybe the the guy that steals a real GH has to has to make also just like a guy [Music] that's no says in the you pay twice it means without maybe it is with we know doesn't make a but why not also interesting what does it mean the whole of aov don't even say it you learn the whole idea of Ghana from a guy that claims that it was stolen that claims it was stolen by the way we're going to real Su now we're done we're done with the whole Cloud CL don't don't get nervous a guy that claims he pretends to be a GH of yeah a guy that says that he claims it was stolen and turns out that he himself stole it but he didn't go ahead and steal it came into his as a he was not a g the whole thing he was just watching the thing from somebody didn't go steal not going to steal something but he decided he had a TI he wanted it nevertheless he has to pay twice soort of you're G and you go M Night with a flashlight you take it out of course you have to pay twice so then why does the say again he should pay it's that a pays and that's it the reason why the said it I can learn the whole idea of G from a guy that's but what I can't learn out from a kind needs a he doesn't need a that's why the Torah talks about it says this this whole P that we learned we went back and forth either teaches us that a GH of pays kful in all items the alive not alive computers bikes everything or this huge said that Potter a guy that admits to something that would require him to pay twice if k is a if he admits to it he doesn't have to pay even if a come afterwards and they get him since he came a minute before the showed up he's pot so we learn from this so as how we learn anything from this we need for something else so it happens to me I saw this today I said it over on Friday I saw it inside today says that a marshall a guy goes in the street with his hand like this so they come over and say what's in your hand I think it's like Simon V or something and what's in your hand he says I can only tell people that are Roy to to hear keeps them going and then another guy comes by another guy comes by and finally he opens up his hand and he says this is garnished it's nothing she says that's that's itahara itara keeps on enticing people but he doesn't offer anything at the end of the day it's nothing so yes I said this on Friday I thought he said it but he doesn't that then like a day later the same guy comes with his hand the the right hand first he's the left hand now he's the right hand oh guess what I have in here so who's going to be a fool to fall for him but that's what they does he keeps on offering us to garnish then he keeps on doing again oh you're curious to see what it is and how it is okay learn from the first time it's I know but it's why okay how do I know I know that if a guy steals with his hands he's a real ghav but what about this what about so I just want to show I I I forgot it was maybe the with you it's like you keep on showing he left that's it he got insult his gun so if things crash Tom maybe go upstairs he's out of here so I got from the guy from already he wrote he wrote a whole p on even like with a pencil gave me and I upgraded it to color here let me show you call her was all impressed yeah yeah yeah yeah I was able to do straight lines anyways that's then this is today fast forward a couple years this is a goag basically a guy traps something on his roof here you want to this is even cooler this is not St a picture this even has movement yeah but it's stolen for this and he closes his door behind in the there a what's a it's a giant yard that you store things in so how do you know that if something goes in there here you can see I I lock up a truck in there I'm a [Music] G any way you come upon this item I don't care if it's in your hand on your or your gag whatever it is you are as is already taken and used already you can't use it for for for all the stuff but both of them with a starting with a what's so first of all we have a we have a double two words it could say what's the double a the second thing is that they're different words use the same word why using two different words so we have two here one that of whatever other Li you want to learn like even though came afterwards the other is that I know that you're G even if you catch it in your backyard we had a similar Thing by that the learns double should have said what's so we learned this idea that there's two is that a word one of water one of wine okay huh [Music] okay so if you recall we had four words that were extra in the POS once we went to so means that it includes everything the opposite of we'll do a little 10 seconds cloud cloud doesn't include anything it includes very limited amount something that's very similar to the Pratt and every extra word a adds oh another thing it adds but I think maybe each one adds a little bit is the opposite includes everything and each one of these extra words take something off the last one I just I'm just bringing for the last one the last one is what did we learn we brought it yesterday what so this is today so we got to remember these words when you pay back the principle the Karan it's exactly like the time stole it whatever it was worth back then that's how much you have to give back we're going to see that it's not exactly that we're going to see I'm just giving you the heads up Karen is the greater of the two so if today it's worth more you're going to pay more if it's worth less you have to always pay the higher amount okay if it was worth more when you stole it so pay more if today it's worth more pay more today but says okay whether the price goes up whether the price goes down is so we got to get this straight in our head because it could be a little confusing back and forth the time sto today what does bz say it's worth how much do you have to pay that's how much you have to pay four times and five times so that's what he does with those extra words what is what's the connection between life and theft make him alive again like at the time that it was stolen you have to pay Karen the main thing the principal as the time was stolen in other words you steal a a cow that's worth $500 and now today he's old and nobody wants to buy him anymore he's worth $100 you have to pay the $500 why bring him alive this is the famous Lo we had it once we're going to have it again in this it seems to me that RAV was P falling asleep like this picture that yhi did for the the sh I asked them what this was and if you recall we might had it just a few weeks ago that said over from that he was he stood there for over an hour and a half with his eyes closed and he said a chat about being blind and not seeing and it's easier to fall asleep okay R never looked anywhere that's why raes who was mu asked be blind okay he didn't go into that part but so just a point out it's not it's not a a to to was his he loved R he he admired him and he respected him he wouldn't talk like that what he said is that since rap said such a thing that just doesn't make any sense it must be that RAV was on the verge of falling asleep so he wasn't considered conscious and he said such a like almost a silly thing why if the animal was a weak animal and he stole the animal and he was weak and he became really heavy big animal worth much more money again let's do what does say says is like what is the word today so today it's a nice gun animal you're going to pay it's $500 today when you stole is $100 today you're going to pay $2,000 for four times five times don't ask me that's already part of math we're not going to get into it okay four time 500 I know it's $2,000 but not now he says no the $100 you pay $400 because that's what it was so we have a ter again it says the word here oh we have a picture here I blew this guy up I work the ghav the GH you see he's wearing the mask the whole thing I caus them all this value so how's it possible I'm going to cause the value you're going to take the prophet now going to take the prophet he going to charge me four times that Propet doesn't make any sense okay good so we'll give you that one doesn't have such a stag but what about this the exact exact opposite story that what that the animal started out he went he hit him with a stick says Rashi he worked him hard made him plow all these fields and today he's M weak over here you don't have an excuse over here went down in value he stole it when it was G went down to value now and you have to pay you but according to you don't okay this is a harder to understand in rash but we go with rashi rashi says like this Rashi says that when you when you have to pay like the time of yeah the end when you says Rashi what the means to say here is that what's when you you pay like now says Rashi when you make it weak it didn't happen in one minute it's a long process it takes a long time to get to that point so you cause this guy this animal to lose value so you're right you're going to go backwards to the point when you started making it weak m Theo the theab they say I said it on Friday because it's the yard side of the balat he says that when a a person is uh doesn't eat something he's mgab his tus not to eat something Mo so we say when you fast that you know the the and the D that we lost so you're you're taking something from your goof he says it should be like I was Mo my whole nees even though I was only Mo a little bit okay I'm not saying that I understand this this this ver 100% has big problems with it we'll go right so R was talking about when is it when it goes up in value and when it goes down in value not when you add it and when you took things off you're right when you add and you take off that's that's different when it goes up in value by like the market went up in value so this is very important to notice right here this because I until I this little nuda here we're going I'm just helping you out so that you don't struggle here like I did we're moving now from to Karen so says Karen yeah not not we're going back to car also a little bit of interesting ver here well what's the case exactly that I have to pay a certain amount of C car according to Rav it's like the time that he stole it when he stole it it was worth one and today it's worth four yeah like um like during covid remember those used cars you bought a car for like $110,000 you drove it for three years and then Co came and then you sell it for $50,000 whatever prices sugar so that's what happened he he steals a thing for one today later on it's worth four K so he only pays one but wait a minute this is this is going to be hard because to say that ra argues with and again remember the question here is on the Karen if somebody steals a barrel of wine from his friend and went up in value if he breaks it or he drinks it he has to pay four why it should be like sh according to R we go by and over here according to R we're saying you go right now by the by the by by the time that you broke it and then is exactly like breaking something if it just broke if it just broke by itself now just understand the between breaking itself and you broke it so let's see Rashi inside Rashi says they're beautiful when it's here it's considered that the the original owner owns it when it's here so now that it goes up in Valu says rash because you have to return it so who owns it the owner the original was so now that went up in value who who gained the the the increase the original owner that moment that you broke it or drank it who that's when you actually stole it so you stole it at the higher value you stole it at one but it went up to four and who owns the the the thing the barrel of wine the original owner so when you drank it you stole it then at four you own four but if it broke by on its own when are you going to when do you when you the guy for the time that he took it out of the the GU but at that time was only worth one okay that's what says sticks in that for for what we just said that is like breaking and drinking okay two two uh vs on on this wine thing the there's the master that sends his his uh waiter sends him to get a a nice bottle of wine so the middle of the suda guy goes and five minutes go by 10 minutes go by where's my wine he's getting 20 minutes go by says look at that said we have to see maybe something happen goes down into the wine seller and he sees the guy sitting there with broken bottles of wine everywhere glass of wine in his hand he's happy and excited his mom is fered like nobody's business and he's about to yell at the guy and the guy says hey boss can I have a raise D this is us we we do all sorts of things and as soon as as we meet could I have a little bit moreos can I have a little this what are you doing that's one thing another thing that I saw and again I didn't I want to look it up I saw once that this guy a very wealthy guy told his friends that he has a bottle that's a 300y old bottle worth tens of thousands nobody's ever had wine like this in their life it's aged for 300 years so all these this they they had 100 years nobody ever had a 300 year battle so all came they came to the party he's going to this break it out and sure enough he brings it out and he shows the and they're talking and they're all dreaming about drinking this wine and as he's talking and trying to open the bottle it falls on the floor and breaks said that whoever is there these these M aristocratic they got on all four and they started licking from the floor they wanted to taste this wine what it is so and the N is huh you want to taste if it's a one time thing it's once in a lifetime you're probably not into wine it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to taste you taste yeah what's the N N is that sometimes we don't do a Mitzvah because we're embarrassed what the other guy's going to say what what's he's going to say he's going to look at me a little funny it's a Mitzvah you get on all four and you start looking the off the floor even if it's a [Music] okay so we're going to narrow down RAV in a different in a bunch of different ways RAV said when it was worth four and went down to one then the principal he has to pay the amount that was worth in the beginning that what was worth four but or would have to pay four for the for the and four for the K all right so that's one way to limit RAV talking about again he's talking about a case started out of four and went to one not from one to four but four to one we have we have the same case we had a bunch of times who claims that it was stolen from him huh no right that's what I thought you going to say and he's a collateral wasn't listening so well is when I give you something to watch I don't want people to make that mistake doesn't mean in a collateral and a this that's different Su in our means I'm asking you to watch my sheep the Sheep is a and I say that it was stolen and you have to swear you have to make a if you if you're you claim that was stolen and then he later on felt bad or he saw the a running to bzen he Liv closer to B he ran first and he admitted and afterwards came if before the came he admitted so what's the he pays three things he pays the principal he pays the how much do what does mean in Hebrew means 20% but it's 25% I'll explain to you why in a second here right andam he has to pay what happened to kful how come he doesn't have to pay kful but if his is late it doesn't count his listen to this he has to pay K and he has to pay says the unbelievable idea listen to this if he came just for this idea K if the 25% equals the C then you don't have to pay the 25% here's somebody that wrote a book on astronomy how is that possible that 25% equals 100% what's C Cal is double 100% of what you stole something you stole something that was worth 100 bucks to pay $100 what's how much is 25% usually 25% is 25% of $100 if the 25% is equal exactly not $1 more not $1 less so I'm going to give you the off why you're ready we're already forcing you to pay what's is to give a Kap so I read was the I gave 100 and my was supposed to be 100 will take that as great there's only one way thear understands or two ways ra says there's another way that oh exactly if it went from 4 to one then it's possible it was four double four is four I have to pay kful four my kful is four I'll pay four for the principal plus four but today it's only worth one so time out the k sorry I messed up the kful or the D is going to be based on what it is today that's what R says but the kin the 25% goes off of what what it was when it was stolen was stolen was worth four 25% of that is one today the animal went from four to one so the C is one so now we have a situation where the C is one and the is one on price change that's the only way to understand it or maybe not so says the gar but you hear what's going on here but if it's a little off if today it's worth one and a half then this this this trick doesn't work it's only when the and the C are identical numbers just the that's how it works that's what Rak says it works they argue with him let's see we'll see on the base just want to show you real quickly this this chart I think it's a gavala chart was fixed up a little bit even more today MAV means inside means outside so the way thear on typically a fifth if you have a 100 a fifth is in in America in England in in English is 20 1 100 is 20 but the way the gamar understood it the way in the time of the gar they always worked with M so let's say you take so for us would be 25 25 is let me see if this is right huh is this right 20 out of five yeah you take 100 is 215 no that's us 12 yeah is this good no 20 we call it no it's not good I don't like this like we call 125 so 25% but they would say it's 125 is no they the 20s have to be on the bottom that it's it's for it's supposed to be what no the 20 is supposed to be the the the the one in purple the 20 should be in another box right it should be the opposite of this okay fine opposite we have to fix a little bit okay the point is We call we call what we they call 25% we call 20 uh 20% we call 25% you miss the days when you could just like rip up a CH I know what you're going to do you're planning on ripping that up okay okay fine the B yeah no so we call it 25% but they called it 20 what we call 25 they call it says in the we have this let me see let me see you're probably [Music] right no this is not the right B no I don't think so look look how it's written here yeah how come this POS doesn't have okay fine it says the side like you but in the no no no there's two different two yeah so I I think is no in this one you read like him so means the means the principal when do you have when they have when you have only the Karen in other words they the two next sheet is whole that when you have you don't pay you don't you don't pay K and 25% it's one of the other when does only only then you pay but then you don't pay also you take off not only you don't bring a carbon you don't pay 20% if there is now we're going back to the we learned that and the they could they could cover for each other the covers for the what's the case if it started out as four and ended up at four how's it possible that the same amount is for yeah 25% here it says 25% of four if if it was 50% if it was 20% it wouldn't be good but it works because it's 25% so the 25% would be one so how how could you cover with your C because even if the ca is more than the doesn't work it has to be identical what happened was it started off at four went down in value to one the you pay the k for right now that's what R said you go by like so one the is one is based on what you stole and that is also one so now you have the and the are identical amount and therefore you only pay the C and you don't pay the what do you see from this the the principle goes like the time that was stolen one the goes way out of this another let's see if you without looking in he says listen very simple it was worth for when you stole it it's worth for today how's it possible 25% of the four is only one how do they add up crazy case you don't like that that's why he didn't think of it let's see you come up with it it's it's a riddle what happened was he swore that it was stolen then he went somewhere else and the be made him swear again and he kept on going made Al wherever he went they kept him swearing four times he swore and then he decided to be MAA so now that he's m is on all four of his in one shot so for each one of the that he lied about he has to give one Z and it adds up the four Z whatever it's the same thing we're gonna get this in a second I know I hear that I don't arue came from America now we're going to give him this thing F that it's possible to pay on one item a bunch of like kishes how do they say in America did anybody clean up the kishes instead of whatever you know what I'm talking about what no okay so we're just gonna go into this dig over here when it's only you pay the 25% you you here if you want to see first of all here's the here's first that's that's the good one it says over there it's talking about the over here you see the second now they're connected we're talking about the talking about the carb and we're talking about aren't they connected it has to be when there only says look the first word of so they're not connected s usually separates but it says S I don't need what do you have to put just start from you cannot you can't get away without the word s why because is for for human beings so we got to make a stop that's so once I need the S and I didn't need the V the V comes and combines the two you can wake up here we go it was before but if in case you were sleeping I don't know what he did here oh I guess that's my muscle y you see what's going on here what was this for I don't know was interesting toes maybe that's uh I guess that's the story with the guy that drank the guy oh no he's a ghav he's the ghav that oh sh yeah yeah I should have shown him then oh do you know where to put it in huh start all over again you'd love that no you're back welcome back we missed [Music] you here we go so here's the here's the he stole the baby and it became a giant bull what is that called so we're going now into Su really we're going into tomorrow as well or if you stay in for the Hebrew one there's a concept in when somebody steals something and changes the way it it looks or the way it's called or both together the ghav sometimes is it becomes his he still has to pay for it you can't you can't get away with it but it becomes his now this happened by itself yeah naturally when an animal lives more than 13 months a is going to become a n and if he lives more than two years he'll become a bull yet thear says says if he actually change physically it becomes in his own hand and that itself gives him the ability to acquire it he has to pay for it 100% but it's his right now therefore if he decides to go ahead and it or sell it he doesn't have to pay four and five why because he he sold his own animal he just has to pay the guy the original price so okay you're not going to remember this this is for the guys that are sticking on to the next year these are the two she one says then he has to pay at the time of the of the why does he have to pay at all you just told me they don't have to pay because it became yours what do you want to tell me not it's not yours when it becomes different then I don't understand why you paying at for the time that now you so now you pay what it's wor now the reason why you don't pay what's now I stole did I steal a sh did I steal an aisle no say like it's a very star so what is he saying if you tell me that's considered a shin when he goes from a baby to an adult it goes to the sh so then then there's no there's no doubt at all zero and if it's not so then you should have gone you should have paid like it's worth now so which one is it if it's considered a sh you shouldn't pay at all if it's not considered sh then pay what it's worth now why going back to what's worth then maybe it could be and say no a little bit of each you stole how does how do they call these in English a calf and a and a bull how do you call a baby sheep a lamb a u a lamb K say has a different name so today it's a different name so just the change of the name is enough I don't know what it's called okay lamb is what older lamb is the baby you is female R is male lamb is either baby unex see no more than just piloting and stuff like that you also understand an animals galic okay by the way if anybody wants to buy a plane there's a plane for okay you just told me it's called it started off as a now it's a n it start off as a agel what do they call it no in Hebrew uh whatever not true there's no it was what an ax is an a the day it's born you're right we called it but it's really it's always called an it's always called a that we spoke about it like a week ago or two but the point is is Stark over here that AAR is called AAR from the born why because it doesn't gain any knowledge or any or any or anything any ability as it gets all there whatever the day it's born that's it it's locked into whatever it is and that's it it knows how to eat grass it does a tremendous job of eating grass and and doing whatever it has to do but that's it sure where as human beings we grow every single day and we don't become adults until 13 and then even 20 is uh you know teenagers we know what teenagers are not you guys for we're talking about regular teenagers not 100% until they become 20 and then even when you're 20 30 40 you're not done you're constantly learning and and adding experience and knowledge and this and that that's Shar there a a joke because we only have one or two in the room so we could say it and we'll pick on the L tomorrow that it's a that one of the true story came into the room he was in a room and they brought in this uh the inle of of the Reb came in in the stroller so he got up so he say I don't understand why' you get up he says because a is called a in other words like you don't you don't have to grow you don't have to know you just have to be you have to be born and re you're born and re so I have to get up even though he's one day old okay fine I hope they don't get too insulted yeah there's no reason it says the day he's born it's called the sh only a real appreciate this joke have no idea what I'm talking about yes he cover he stood up everything's good huh yeah I think it's a story about that's what I want to I didn't eat your what if he ate the babies what's his when he said I didn't eat any of them even when they're day old or older becomes an is considered a so then why does he pay says that when there's a the doesn't doesn't acquir it so there's he doesn't acquire interesting we have that let's see where it is it says in the done is that if somebody pays a for for so you can't bring that to as a carbon so let's say he gave her wheat and she changed it completely she made a to the weed and she made it into flow she made oil she took the grave she made wine one says it's also to bring a carbon from that wine and the other one says it's there's another one place in sh that his name is brought down so it's that says it's also why say that the sh doesn't help over here so by us also the sh won't help it Remains the owner not the G you see the says G is always a g that even if what is G's to see to teach us that if you take wheat and you turn it into bread it's all to bring as a car so this I I put because this is a p f it says so they they take the word hem it's h that it doesn't apply to so if you take olives and you make into oil you could bring that for the in the that if she became pregnant later on does doesn't count but if she's a we saw on Friday if she's be learn two things from the word fine says what are they going to do with this G that's a big problem thear says we don't have an answer for that tomorrow 7:15