Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 63 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning rap and he led here today first time ever tremendous as you all know you see him here every single day where is he get over here yeah unbelievable you have a for me by the way first of all first aain live to 120 that's it a little bit more what else what should I do during the 120 learn sh learn I shall learn CH teach teach than this guy is from the bigum he knows sometimes he has the answers before the adults many times many times she keep on going giving to your father and your grandfather to your grandparents your grand to to all your parents to to your siblings to [Music] everybody today I believe is the of here in right so I just want to play a short clip that has to do withi we found this clip it's a gem it's not on YouTube and we're going to try to downloaded for the but here's one little piece from the great here goes tonight if we want to make a resolution it is to make a resolution that our homes will be filled with not only the sh that we learn with a in public we'll bring the learning of T into we prepare a and we'll revise a we'll learn with our children we'll find moments to fill our homes with to all of us those who have learned the and those who come to show their respect to those who have learned the have got to understand that this m on the first day of is a commit okay be for all of is dear belly thank you for your share we enjoy very much I have a sh I'm driving from Miami to Orlando he's if you look Clos he's doing 70 not bad s a Slowpoke I don't know where he learned how to drive I'm driving from Miami we're listening to the D all of a sudden I got a phone call from my brother in Israel not but I've been waiting to talk to him for a few days I answered it is that M I'm asking is that m in middle of a Shar to answer a phone call no after the phone call I wanted to resume the shear but the whole screen system froze I guess it's a bug or short circuit it's clear to me that hm wants me to value my learning time and not answer phone calls but since we're in the sug he wants to know if MD is to pay to fix the system in his car all jokes aside we love mdy thank you Ley Cohen regarding the story of The Diamond dealer who shared his room with a ghav and hit his diamonds in the gav's pockets he similar story actually happened with the something like that when he was in the Gul a p used to play with an illegal deck of cards and when the guard would come and search the Contraband he would sneak the deck into the guard's pocket would use the story as a mus oh so here's the mus teaching that often we like to blame the people around us for our problems but if we would remember to check our own Pockets first and fix ourselves and may very well solve our problems the other lesson that teach from this from a similar story referred to as the story Isaac of crack up is that many times we think that the solution to our problems is elsewhere but we should know that the true solution lies within ourselves the second lesson is not the same as the first thank you for such an awesome she Ren I want to say that uh just yesterday with the first time in years that mdy found itself in a little bit of a a pickle it's difficult to to pay the K guys we come up with the money for all of a sudden Mr Anonymous from Manchester sent in $112,000 and the same thing Mr Anonymous from L would sent him $110,000 it was M but Anonymous from Manchester nobody spoke to him nobody hinted him dropped the money the co of the month sponsored by Anonymous from Lakewood in honor ofer for is sponsored for the unity of and now we have seven that come from supporting Gary y for your Relentless commitment to M the Y and there many others such as Dave who's back here and to and many others markazi go [Music] on should beell is Robert Early here today so so this person who donated anonymously from Manchester he wants to be in memory in the memory of from Anonymous in Manchester who joined the shear at the beginning of is and Steven per of per in celebration of [Music] jacobah Glenn and Stacy black ma Tam and Ariel blumthal on the birth of our first granddaughter our uncle and from my father for suful for the famous month Anonymous for the of an easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby we are holding so here's a question how's it possible that a person doesn't go out and steal something yet he's two times the amount he has in his possession four times the amount he has in possession kful how's it possible huh you didn't go out and steal it yeah four times four times how do you get the four times no continue RAB D between the two of you love Mas okay he said what close but you don't have to be to it you actually do it okay the boy let's he no close close yeah yeah yeah g but it's Tyro you can't lie in Tyro okay so today we're having a su called it's most people love this people that hate a love these sugas and basically you know we have different sugas we have the of and this is a where we see the nuances in the the different words the added words the cloud the good news is that we have 37 charts today and it's actually an easy so it's easy just there's not a lot OFA stories that happen and things like that but so let's do a tiny bit of K the the peric starts off talking about a person who steals he has to pay kful if he steals a cow bull or a sheep and he ends uping those two or one of them or selling them so he's he's four or five depending on the sheep he only has to pay four times the amount only it's a pretty decent penalty only a sheep four and a bull five times if he ends up doing that so then the gamar goes into the differences the mishna says that's so difference between and that only exist and these two animals and they have to have they have to be alive obviously Cel on the other hand applies to everything in the world almost right you still any object doesn't have to have life it could be a computer a bike you have to pay double so thear goes through the here's the it doesn't matter what you stole every in the world but then the T says no no no only these four things clothing three animals and clothing and then the T finishes it off so that's what we call CL it's everything then it's very specific PR and then I'll call the soosi did a wonderful job everybody understood it there a pickup truck your on all these items even a carbon you see the guy in the stal even a EV a slave all the way in the top chicken everything and then when we narrow down to PR we take everything out of the back of the pickup truck it's only these four but then once again we have a cloud that includes everything and we're going to limit four things it doesn't include slaves k Kim because each one has a different thing Kaa is not has to be removable has to be yeah like I was thinking like I don't know if this is a nice thing I like him I love him a lot but I think like R why who spoke beautifully at uh the shabat I think he's he's you could lift him up put him in a pickup truck but he he makes a lot of money just coming there for his M his own goof just being there people want to see him they pay $15,000 shab just to be next to him but it has to be a the the actual animals worth something the and you can lift it K you can't lift a evid you could lift but evid is similar to K thear is just a piece of paper it's worthless we said M worthless the you could go ahead later and get money out it worthless fight but then we're just doing going to get to sound again said wait a minute why don't we just say that it has to be similar to an animal that that has Tuma it adits t when it's dead but it say Sal there's there's the the guy the the the crow what do you call it the crow scare over there the Scarecrow so obviously scarecrow the the clothing doesn't Adit Tuma say well but there's different category the P says those do the so anything that's similar to like a chicken that has life a chicken doesn't give T Birds don't give off T especially tmy birds so that's what we're holding right now perhaps a bird is not included in this excuse me in this category here you see the bird becomes light so that's where we're holding says two lines down from m m if that's what you want to do you want to get rid of birds and say that on a bird you're not for every single object in the world besides a bird so why why are you telling me yeah this was cool that the SKC came and took the fight here we have three items here why does it I have to go through all three say one and I get the idea so obviously the others are there to teach me a bird says wait a minute before it's not that simple which one exactly do you want to say and leave out the others so here it goes each these two the Shar have something special about them and if you just say sh I would say okay it has to be something kosher it doesn't include noner animals so if you steal a horse you wouldn't be it has to be Sim to they can put on well the sayar is very not it's not not very k at all wellar has something special about it you have to when it's a first born you have to be you have to either give a the Sheep to the Cen or you have to knock its head off but something special so maybe Kamar is different oh I say sh but maybe it has to be a combination of these two things what if what if it's let's say a deer okay so it has it's kosher it's not it's not a koser but at the at the end of the day I still don't know a bird because so just say those two oh so what do he do with the Sheep so you do this bam so SE comes to teach us birds so now we're in a position that everything in the world that you steal even Birds even bikes even kosher animals non kosher animals just say in the I get it I hear I I hear that's how it is that's how the t is the T A lot of times says things in hints I hear you K but it's good by the way RAB I want you to pay attention here I finally found a person who loves here he is at this point of the regular sh he's gone he loves this stuff Dr Factor loves liud it's true here he is he's gonna be with us so true oh so what Dr Factor what would you put in the tire if it was you you ride birds or you put a chicken you put a a parrot what would you put in there you have to it's specific what bird would you put in tell me a kosher bird a but it's non kosher so say non kosher bird but a kosher bird yes that's why I have to [Music] put but there's a distinction between a kosher bird and non kosher bird and if some people didn't know this a couple weeks ago when we learned it a kosher bird has something very special about it when you touch it you don't become tmy when you put it into your mouth you become T not only do you become T even your clothes on your back become t a non- kosher bird if you touch it you don't become tummy and if you put it in your mouth you don't become tummy so theor says well maybe it's only coming to tell us one type of bird a noner bird doesn't have any T at all maybe you don't have to pay kful if you steal a if you steal a storage if you steal a parrot maybe you don't have to pay says the okay basically what the gar is saying now is forget about all the pickup trucks forget about the clal Prat we're not doing a Prat anymore we're doing it something else it's called a reu it's re re we're not even getting getting going to go into that we're just going to take instead of that whole thing then it says forget that we're going to one word it says Al a anything that you steal anything anything a kosher bird and a noner bird a kosher animal non kosher animal a bike and computer you're why because it says so abandoning the whole cl cl thing and we're going into new well the question is going to be if we include everything so then why in the world does the T tell us four examples the answer is cu once I include everything the examples come to teach us a now I'm going to reduce it I had 100% now I'm going to reduce the 100 by four things are going to teach us four things that are not included first huh we should say call first then here let's look at the it says it first look at the no it says AES is at the end okay we have cashes here says sorry great okay so this say you could just say if you're just woke up now we're starting a brand new so if you remember I think everybody remembers this because this was a gal kha we we all know what Myer sheny is Myer sheni and if you don't know we'll show you because Jonathan might not know where is he if he watches this by the way I have to say sh I see some guest sh what's you guys what's your name Brooklyn New York my my my could you say on Brooklyn uh my uh how do they say it in the from the from the lman I know if you could say l first of all not the not the L start talking Gish yeah L I grew up in Brooklyn All right so here goes this is a person has a pile of 100 fruit he has to give the two he has to give the Ley 10 he's left with 89 he's left with 90 fruit okay we'll round it out 90 he takes from the 90 has to take 10% and give himself so it works like this he takes it and they turn purple why they turn purple those nine fruit become what does he do with it he must go with it to but now it's very heavy he doesn't want tolep he he owns millions of fruits this is just an example so he takes the the fruit whatever he has and he redeems it with cash here he goes takes out of his pocket get some money and then the purple fruit that of purple goes to the money the fruit go back to being red apples then once he has that money it's much lighter now he can carry it to yush in he goes and he trades for food can buy any food the T says right we would think so I asked the question back in the day can you buy with that money could you buy Herring nobody answered just Judah okay cuz just started coming two days ago can you buy with that food Herring and crackers yes wrong so what's the answer could you buy no wrong everybody H you see that's what happens you don't come a couple days you're permitted to buy crackers but you cannot buy fish how do we know this and we so we learned the Su now it's easy right the what it says like this here we'll do real quickly because it's a beautiful chart it says in the with that money you could buy anything you want wine beer steak fish everything and then the that's a clout but look it says that's the point over there we missed it it says we just said that the word call call isya means everything every single item in the world so the word over here should also do the same exact thing you should be you should be able to purchase anything you want but we don't do that we use the word as a CL not a REO to say everything but a CL a generalization and then it says we limited to four things very similar to our where we limited to wine and beer meat and lamb chops and then it [Music] says so we have another Cloud so since I have something of generalization but it has to be similar to the four items that we mentioned what's what's the similarity similarity is that there has to be like a cow and a sheep that are prma pre they have a mother and a father they go from generation to generation and also it's G they eat from the ground they were created in the you know they created from the ground whereas fish were not created from the ground fish don't eat from the ground so fish are excluded Herring is excluded also from PR PRI we exclude mushrooms because they don't have they don't have a tree you don't plant a mushroom a tree you plant water not salt not so those three items not plus fish is four items that we exclude from this whole thing so let's see inside crackers yes crackers are they're grain so crackers yes hering not it was a trick question says the G so you're telling me call the word k l is a includes everything see differently we don't use it as a we use it rather as a cloud which is more limiting than a Rebo Rebo is everything 100% not 100% by the way want to point out we learned in the G that if person has a there's a certain there's a certain fish person has we have different and and everything that that gives for we have something to counteract that everything over here the is telling us people a lot of people have Tyas for for food I have a friend who's in this room very good friend he he I saw him with my own eyes he opens up the refrigerator he stares at his steak he goes back he comes back five minutes later there's people that for three days before shabas they're thinking about how they're going to SV their meat and they're going to they're going to smoke it this way and that way and they send pictures on their statuses they live the meat they live it what camera yes there's no camera on you my friend you can there's a there's a few people in the room they know what I'm talking about no but it's but the Torah says listen to this the Torah says they're they're good the this put it into it's aah people have the but don't do it on a Tuesday afternoon you do it on Tuesday afternoon if it's shin and how do we do it today we don't have sh you do the you put that in there I don't understand it I come from a family we eat bread and butter M like that's how I grew up and that's I I like that stuff little little garnish who cares there people my kids my kids have the other jeans to make that sandwich is the whole know not to eat it it's a whole it's a different gather okay and I'm not joking I know these people well and it is for shabas you should see the pictures that come in in the groups no five minutes before the detail and the this and they talk about it the Sal it's unbelievable then the tah says only these four items here it is it must be something that grows from Generations like seeds or there's two cows that create another cow comes from the ground they eat from the ground they were created from the ground which comes to exclude so if you look PRI comes to exclude three things mushrooms water and salt so again I'll point it out again because m is coming very soon he's M when we have M Shen money and you're you're tired you're sweating and you come into you sh with that me money you cannot buy a bottle of water from the the street vendor cuz it's water so remember that and the mushrooms on your steak they're not part of it so you could buy you could buy the steak but not the mushroom huhy you can buy beer you can buy wine all the good stuff not water unfortunately unfortunately well in those days we we'll be happy with the wine Coke and no no gilter fish no fish CU it has to be so from we learned that one thing I've called PR what re means everything and then from that point we go backwards and we take off CL is not everything has to be similar to this thing similar to these four things if you want more you have to add REO is already there we're at 100% then we just take off AR says and this answers the question here we go back to this you ask me a question call meant everything and here by my doesn't mean everything using it as a cloud the CL there a big difference don't you see it's a different word one has a base one doesn't have a b when it has a b we use it as a CL when it doesn't have a b it's a re some say no the word call is actually a CL even by us even by would mean a CL how come we using it as com include everything says there here we go we we talking about look at right before there's another CL so we got a big problem how do you have two CL CLS after why you need that therefore the second one where it says the word call that's a not a CL otherwise it doesn't make sense where do you see the CL because it says if a person gives to his friend anything then it says only these specific two things money and which would exclude animals and then it says everything so it's so it's the next is also so here this is what Yoshi did just to show real quickly here's the CL now just saying just take this one why need another so the next Al is a re not a clown now the says very very simple but once I know that is means 100% so then I need to understand why I need these four very specific items the answer is that each one comes to exclude one item it doesn't include immovable objects that don't move real estate you could for this is all okay we're going back to ca now so slaves that you could move them but they're similar to you could move them but they're worthless so it has to be two things why does it say clothing Rashi says means it doesn't have a Simon tus asks what connection does not having a Simon have to not having to pay I don't understand what are the words oh so we had the we could do a little I will'll expand on it if a person steals something and we catch him he has to pay double does the does the GH of have to swear no there's no swearing we catch him red-handed he pays kful now a person who's a he watches something for his friend and he gets a big T to steal it he knows that if he claims that it was stolen he he's Potter he has to swear that it was stolen but he Potter he gets to keep it he has a tremendous to eat lamb chops and se's a nice juicy looking sheep so he tells the owner the Sheep you gave me to watch was stolen so it becomes his then he goes ahead and he it that is that if he doesn't sh that he has to pay two times the Sheep why because he said it was stolen just saying he was stolen what's the other thing he could say he claim it was lost if he claims that it was lost and we find that he's a liar and he stole it he doesn't pay he doesn't pay two times he only pays once why because if a person only kind of pays twice so you have to be you have to claim that it was stolen when you claim it was stolen when you find that you're a liar you so don't get confused there's a ghav who steals he has to Fay twice there's a guy that's not a ghav he's just a nice guy he or we thought he's a nice guy he's going to watch your item and then he claims that it was stolen and we find that he's a liar he has to pay twice he never stole he never went into somebody's property and took the item it was actually given to him but he claims that it was stolen just claiming that was stolen you're going to pay double and if we find out you hear RAB D if we find out that he actually shed it he doesn't claim it he Sheed it he's going to pay four times the amount now because he Sheed maybe lost is also a it is a but you don't pay so now thear says like this listen to this so what do I do with the words alcoh there's a third case we didn't even discuss there's a brand new one A Guy Walks down the street and he finds a sheep so he has to take it home and take care of it and then the guy comes knocking on his door like yosi's daughter drew and we just uh made a little better he says he I heard you you found my cow somebody told me he says no no no no it it was stolen yes I found it but somebody came into my backyard and stole it and then even is laughing even though you said him Thorn that's how the joke was so Lauren is the the master so and then of course the the the cow the Sheep is peeking out from behind the door so we know he's a liar so he's going to have to pay kful in the situation now if he knocked it out and and then cheed it and made Stakes out of it he's going to have to pay four times or in this case how much five times because it's a cow to okay next so now we're just going to go into everything that we just said P the stuff awesome what does it mean means we're talking to I told you to watch my she and you said okay where is it where's my deposit not a dep not a m not you owe me money and I have a deposit you we're talking about here he said it was lost so he says we're just going through the cases easy stuff so he says oh yeah it was lost you have to swear so you see from here you have to swear okay no problem I agree I swear oh then it gets caught they didn't testify that he ate it so pay attention to this word it's a very important word says which means it's gone it's consumed it's out of this world there's nothing left from it he does not have to pay kful he doesn't pay kful even when it was completely consumed says T why why because over here he said we only pay you only pay kful when you claim was stolen he didn't say it was stolen he claims it was lost let me ask you a question didn't he go to Yeshiva didn't he learned that he knows there's a difference if he claims it was stolen and they catch him he's going to have to pay twice two times if he claims that was lost and he catch him he only has to pay once so why would a person say it was stolen when he could say it was lost anybody have a good answer it's a very simple answer what be over oning lying he's lying both ways he lied both but it wasn't lost or stolen he's lying either way huh he's p on both of thema and AA so I'm asking why does he lie and say that it was stolen and if they catch him he's going to be in big trouble have to pay double oh similar to what you're saying because it's much more believable to say that was stolen he doesn't look like a fool I tried to take care of it I was ay guy walked in the middle of the night and came he came into my house and took it lost he looks like a fool what me lost it was in your backyard yes so what happened I I don't know it got lost since for him he looks better when he says it's stole I'm just explaining I think there's no sponsor for the turning up I don't think anymore Jonathan is huh say oh you're right we just turned this out if you're spacing out out and you don't know that we turned the page get out of the shear but if you still want to stick around we're still on B okay listen to this if a person admits fault he pays so look it says in the POS like this he says he claims it was stolen it wasn't stolen it's in his house so what do he do says in the p b he lies he lied and he swore falsely what do he do because he swore false first of all you have to give back the principle he has to pay another fifth how much is a fifth in English and American language 25% you're right if you translate you are right you're right if you TR you're right if you translate word for word but in the way in our vernacular uh 20% a fif means 25% I'm just explaining what you would think is not what you think not our today in addition to the 25% and the principle you have to pay bring a carbon you lied you you swore falsely so says the new case okay so we know if a guy lies and he says it was lost but what if the same guy the says where's my he claims St this is stuff we did about before liar I don't believe you swear yeah sure I'll swear so he swears false we have a we have two witnesses that say he's a liar has to pay double now he has to pay double why because he said he was stolen when he says it was lost he doesn't pay up it says it was stolen it doesn't say it was eaten why because we're going to the extremes when it was completely eaten in case that he says it was lost he doesn't pay anything or doesn't pay double over here where he claims it was stolen it wasn't stolen still in his house it wasn't consumed he has to pay double if a person admits to the fault he pays the Karen the principal 25% in what about so that we have the famous famous concept since it comes from himself he admitted to guilt that he lied and that he that he swore falsely he doesn't we don't make him pay C because when you admit to to AAS C is AAS the is not a okay the 25% he pay is not a kful double is says let's just do this is there's a lot of extra word not extra there's a lot of over here it says when you claim that you're gun that was stolen then you do have to pay twice when you claim that was lost you don't pay another thing remember he swore you only pay when you swear if you don't make a you don't have to pay careful you know they have to swear oh so very important we have two here just pay attention to these two they're very important it says anybody reading this would think like I thought I think talking where is it the stone if we find the Thief a real thief or a fake Thief if we find that the is the thief or means we find the real Thief we find the real Thief right some say not like that some say the the we find that you're the thief okay it's not the passes of the P the next p says if we don't find the Thief that everybody agrees is talking about the we find out that he's a liar we never found the thief what we found out is that you're a liar you said was stolen you're liar so we have in the bres two bres one say the the first is still talking like the first and second are talking about the same exact case that the lied and he said it was stolen but it wasn't and another BR says no we have to make a difference between and Z doesn't make sense that they'll be talking about the same thing so let's say the first is talking about a real thief the second person is talking about a fake Thief okay that's the whole thing over here oh first of all Yoshi redid this a little bit shows on the left top right left corner great look at this beautiful what he did here we have says says we don't find both of them are according to this if you see that little box we're talking about a guy that claims that it was stolen really wasn't stolen who told you maybe about the thief himself he says the exact opposite of what our would be he says have to match up they're talking about the same thing so p is talking about a fake Thief a guy that's pretending that was stolen so is also talking about that and how do I know the talking about a fake Thief we'll see in a second and check out just look at this chart for a second we'll know what the other Bryce is no p is talking about a real thief and P is talking about a fake a guy that said that was stolen which makes more sense to us because now the T are talking about different things and that's why this [Music] T oh so very good boy is asking a very good we're GNA get to that soon we're gonna learn something else from it soon how do you know that we're talking about the we're talking about the G himself it can't be because is talking about's the first one makes more sense to say they're talking about two different cases according to everybody is talking about how do I [Music] know if we found that it's not like you said what is if it's not found to be like you're claiming that there was a real just what you yourself are the of in that case he pays how do you know who said we we we assumed the says it was talking about the guy said he says how do you know sorry eloh means to the court to what why you going to court to swear maybe this is interesting that it means you should go to bz so that you should pay you're you hear that claims that it was stolen you should go to court and pay so says here look at this beautiful we have there's a case of top there on the bottom the calls it says by it says the words it also says the same exact words we compare one to the [Music] other so just he has to swear I think for a second when does have to swear if he claims it was stolen and lost he has to pay does he swear no so when does swear when he claims so has to swear says let's look at the chart again beautiful according to is talking about a guy that stole he has to pay the puz the secondz talking about claims that was stolen he has to pay so we're talking about two different things understand they're talking about the same exact thing here we go is talking about the third case when he claims that it was lost in that case you don't pay now the does a classic here beautiful what Yoshi did according to the first how do I what do I what do I do with the teaches us that if I claim that it was lost you don't have to pay new what is the second BR do the second BR uses it up already and that's what the say from the word from the letter hey he learns that if he claims that it was lost he doesn't have to pay from oh so what's the obvious question going to be what does Bry number one do with the hey they learned something else from it that if you claim that you it was stolen and then we find out that youed it you have to pay four times how do I know that from the hey and then theor is going to ask how does Br number two know that the answer is going to be from a and that's the end of today's what does he do with a lot of words he's watching your you're sheep you come to get it back you say sorry it was stolen Not only was it not stolen but you took it you sh you ate the lamb you ate the lamb chaps what's if was just stolen if youed it or sold it how do I know that from the he uses the know have to pay four times check this out Z are right there next to each other so whatever have one have in the other is talking about aov is talking about aov so one of you learn one from the other just like T ishov I'm sorry just like a g of himself has to pay doll you pay four times if you sh it or sell it so two a guy that claims that he had to steal it that that was stolen he pays four or five times the problem is they're very different one you have to make a sh and one you don't make t time ghav has to swear a GH of himself we said everybody greed in the room you don't swear isn't that a great P to the heish yes but guess what a heish is so strong you never answer on there's no answers to you have right next to each other boom we learned that Li have a wonderful [Music] day she [Music] for [Music] for