Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 45 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] go morning sharp we're planning to start giving $500 a month towards the starting inat I set up in a few weeks just wanted to give a little drop of to your campaign efforts as always thank you and everyone else in front of and behind the scenes working so hard to change lives like mine have a good chabas Joe Sharp uh a bunch of new people that we haven't mentioned these are this is the last time I'm going to mention for now B I'll try somebody has to remind me ones we'll do all the new ones but now Jakob sit on a dollar day stepped it up Jakob stepped it up what's the name of your company akov what's the name of your company Citron films Rob Bo say check it out he's a star he actually he's so good we flew him in for the shabbaton we put together beautiful piece we show one of these days Jay Nathanson the famous Jay Nathanson New Jersey hasset it Bruce Kesler dollar a day Jakob Sol dollar a day J fer Max wck David Freelander all these are dollar day unbelievable David Kramer yet the great Cohen he wrote it about himself Bo say together yet the great Cohen Minasha blasin and these are people that are giving monthly Jake Manis $36 shly grossberger two Warren Kimmel 18 Galia Waldman 36 Yeshua ludmir 30 Jim Philip sundervan Gutman one I think ala and Zev bski Zev from Cheer market.com the brother before we had MTI also did like um a fraction 30.5 naali Tilson 36 teer five AI Hager 18 Evan Rosenfeld 36 Daniel Rosenberg 18 boai and the final one Harry Shalom 101 101 unbelievable Shalom from Los Angeles from D address St Island had a guest of shabas the famous Yol Bergman from Chicago with his favorite Slurpee now I remember remember I don't know if you guys remember that Mark ashkanazi used to send Slurpees to Yol Bergman before his parents made it AER he's getting too many to send it in a taxi like the tax was like $25 for $1.99 slurpie the RAB sty when you were discussing income that comes after a person dies you mentioned Insurance there's a night and day difference between a life insurance payment and a payment because of a axe kill someone that's what gar is to show the difference how you view even things like this the maik have never existed until the person died the Mas did not expect to make the payment the N did not expect to receive the payment the to pay an insurance policy in contrast exists upon payment of the premium the insurance company expects to make the payment and they have to set money aside for this purpose the beneficiary expects to receive the payment with whole life the most common form of life insurance a payment will be made with certainty some policies are prepaid for life meaning that the benefit is guaranteed to be paid in full and only the time the payment is uncertain only the timing of the payment is uncertain even with the typical policy I still I'm not sure that he's right because it comes into affect the moment the person dies that's when you pay it but he's saying that it's it's there but you can't if you ask them for it they won't give it to you he's saying that sometimes if a person's 100 years old they'll even give you the full death benefit despite being alive okay so in that case might be there so the I don't know again there something to think about but beautiful [Music] Jakob the BBA took a page out of our yeah he heard about what we did with the fish and the hands on and he himself want to show he wants to make it interesting so look what he did let me see if we have some sound there no [Music] sound they also have lifefish what are you talking about Ellie this is a a love letter Ellie I love you I'm so honored to be here with you on mdy and live in the same complex where your sister and brother-in-law lives in Houston Texas Philip Goldstein Ben Mal the of the day is sponsored by Renard my grandfather's oh that's very interesting ABA I didn't know that my daughter-in-law is a kich interesting right is sponsored for the unity of come from supporting to all those who say something like that that's what it says here the art of the month is not sponsored by anybody yet I want to shout out to all the close to 200 people that took upon themselves to do the da the son of the over there I want to announce again I announced it yesterday I'm very excited it's a tremendous herish tonight we're starting something new and we need a lot of she in Hebrew it's very possible that the shear in Hebrew could bring as many people as the shear in English there's so there's thousands and thousands of of Israelis that would appreciate a sheer like this perhaps we don't know it might be a big flop but huh we're recording it it's going to be here in the B every single night at 9 o'clock P.M including M shabas for now 9:00 p.m. besides Arab Shas of course where we're gonna have to figure it out why you don't get extra you can't if you do twice no no no no no also I want to tell the I want to sheare with those in America what all of us here in AR Ro experienced on Friday night Lil shabas we were here in the SCH yes I I'm going to announce I'm going to announce don't worry about it I I didn't forget I didn't foret huh speak it's tonight there's a whole program I don't have it in front of me and if you took D of we did how much half a half so it's to do it by tonight and Robert Is Here onig that he came the day after sh eight days after some was LIF he came here very very hard to do and he did it hard to be here today and he did it it's for all of us and he said right now he if you didn't hear what he said he said however if you're coming to the night Shear to the Hebrew Shear go to the shear don't come to the SL uh so I was the middle of saying that in Middle of a that we had a lot of people were different places we were in middle of a speech the between kab shabas and and suddenly there were Sirens which we didn't hear in over a month or so and there was basically a little bit of a panic a little bit of panic and the ran out of the sh and they're looking for a shelter and there's not really a shelter close by and they all huddled underneath the stairs besides me and the last guy out of the sh and we were looking at them like what are you doing over there it was interesting and sure off there's a huge bang huge here in ches where a missile made it through the Iron Dome and actually landed near our neighborhood on the 10 over here tremendous boom shook everybody up a little bit and then you heard a bunch of smaller ones which were the Iron Dome so this is uh wasn't that we were more worried about what our wives were doing at the time they need our support or whatever just a day in life and it happens to be that to me it's it's good to hear I hear the bombing in Gaza as many of you do today between 3 and 4 there's a lot of gmak bombing after that it wasn't so what I missed it during the three days of rain there was Zero I didn't hear a single thing I don't know if it's me or but those sounds are good the other ones are not so good RAB I just want to show you what we missed out last night we had a lot of technical difficulty and for those of you who didn't see it a lot of you will see it on the recording today but many of you who are here in the shear and who you weren't at the she so here's just an opportunity when the mishna says that the person the bull wanted to kill a human another Bull and instead kill the human being or he wanted to kill one human being and killed another one this is what Yoshi did I thought it was a beautiful thing here we go here's a guy on a beach chair learning gar and he's thinking himself I got to get that Bull and that's what we missed out yesterday huh mavin he look he shows the kavana it's in his head I want to get the guy with the facing me and then somehow the big chair moved that away okay G as long as ASI liked it we're good okay we're holding by the Bull killed somebody and already with a show of hands maybe if somebody steals a pie of pizza before PES and after pesak is over he decides to do and he gives back the pie of pizza which basically right now is worthless because it's is he and it's a week old but it's frozen it's m in the box is he y giving back Thea say yeah anybody for this we have to ask only one person in the room H is very good very good she's holding M holding I think it's a phenomenal thing you giving back something that's worthless and you don't it's okay you don't have to buy this bowl sacked in that you have to Stone it to death he killed a human being as we learned yesterday that even after the bull goes ahead and Gores you could go ahead and be MAF you could go ahead and but over here thez already said that it's you have to you have to kill it they're already leading it to to its death and the owner went ahead and made it to the it's not yours you lost your ownership over here and what you ran ahead and you shed it real quickly a trick it's a anyway so the B is a what if right before bz had a chance to make a verdict then it does go and if you it real quickly before B has a chance the me is edible you're allowed to eat it brand new Mish say the Mish is sponsored by MOS not this the entire Mish sponsored by Mosen he's back he's back tremend if a person gives his bull to be watched and he gives it to is a watcher that does it for free somebody that borrows it somebody that he pays to watch and somebody who rents it these are the four sh as you see on the chart I don't I don't have the ability for some reason the these buttons not working let's try Okay the each one has a different and as we go along we'll see different things but obviously since he's not getting paid you get what you pay for so since you're not paying him to watch your animal he's really not much he's only if he's very negligent on on the other hand even if it was stolen or lost he's he's only if it's a complete how do you say in English accident thank you something like that a is in big trouble somebody who borrow something even you are only if it dies while you're using it then you're Potter very rare so the mishna says that these four become instead they become like like the owner whatever the owner is if the animal is a you have to pay you the have to pay half a damage and if it's you pay the full damage the last line on the if the animal the Bull killed someone before the verdict if you go ahead and you sell it even though it killed someone it's a good sale now yesterday we had a whole discussion yesterday we had a whole discussion if the sale is a sale do you need the owner the original owner to be there as a part of it and we said according to that if he's MAF the the bull Gore somebody then the owner goes ahead and lets the animal free hefer you don't kill the animal why because at the gar you're not going to have the same you need the same owner so even if you hold you don't need the same owner Hef doesn't work says Rashi if you look at the top Rashi Lio I'm just asking a question not whether we're going to kill the animal of course we're going to kill the animal according to at least we're going to go we're going to find the animal wherever it is and we're going to kill him why because he killed a human being my question is if he went ahead and he sold it could you plow a field for the next days until you kill him now if I'm going to kill this animal anyway so who cares if he's he says rash what happens if somebody rides takes a ride on this bull takes him to work one day he's a he's he's yes gonna go grab him and and stone him to death but meanwhile meanwhile could you use him to plow it works and therefore since there's no verdict there's no you're allowed to eat the meat this is one of those that's very annoying in other words we're talking about the Sher he watched the this yeah he watched this is men's favorite question this guy was supposed to watch the animal he didn't watch him that well he goes he says listen take this take this bull bz are going to come the next day they're going to find the bull and kill the bull and the guy lost out on his bull but in terms of the reminds me like we said that if you borrow a $1,000 it's okay to go give him sub you bring a dump truck full of Oats nobody eats oats anymore and if you do it's two cups a year take a whole dump truck and dump in front of his on his front lawn this is uh I gave you a $1,000 loan and this how you pay me back you're Russia yeah you're a bad guy re galinski even says that he might get a din like they might punish him for it but in terms of giving back the loan he gave back the loan he could put a nice check I paid back the loan in terms of this Sher is he a bad guy yes but he fulfilled his obligation he opened up the door put this bull that's du to Die Tomorrow by stoning put it back in the guy's backyard but once there's a verdict and they say you got to kill this bull the bull is so you can't even sell you can't sell it even to do to do plowing it's not yours to give to the even that's it we took it away from you it's it's it's um what's the word it's I just I just had it left uh no like when a person is he's due to die he's he's condemned no is that a word condemned okay it's not yours not you can't you can't do things with it you can't make it B and you can't even eat the meat and you want to be and go take the bull and put it back in the guy's backyard that doesn't work any it's not considered as if you gave it back no interesting even though bz said let's take this bull and let's Stone him we'll do it tomorrow comes the Sher grabs the bull puts it back in the backyard he's not responsible he did whatever he needed to do so what's the what's what's the what's the logic over it perhaps that's the case of we say by a guy steals a pie of pizza and it became because could I say here take it back why because of the idea of heik thank you heik the it's it's damaged that you can't see you can take a microscope you look at the pizza pie it doesn't it doesn't say anywhere in the pizza that that was that that came by didn't go by there's no doesn't say I'm giving you something I stole this visibly is the same thing that I gave back I gave back the same thing could you do that or not so we have perhaps I have here a bull that PE said you have to kill it looks just like the same just like the bull that it was yesterday and just like his friends the Bulls in the pen so I'm giving it back to you could you do that or not or no Hally speaking this bull is condemned to die so I can't give such a bull back perhaps then that W this how he Pas that you could it's permitted to give back a pie of pizza after P the ghav is when he gives back to here do whatever you need to do with it sorry it's not worth anything it's not my bad it's yours and I'll prove it to you why they argue about that they're not arguing about they're arguing about a bull that's what's the difference very very interesting we know that when it comes to human beings you cannot pass in unless very extreme cases but usually you need the Balin you need the person that's being judged you need him there in court and the question is do you need to bring a bull into court is that or not now if you think about it for a second you'll come up with the the logic by yourself when it comes to human being I need him there why do I need him there because he could say something say it's not what happened I think like this what's a bull going to help you if he's in front of you why in the world does it make sense you need an animal to sit there in front of you how's that going to change anything see him maybe going to work hard to have to to defend him you feel bad for him you'll work hard the to the he killed a human being for goodness sakes why would I want to defend him then why do we have Cas just kill him say a case a real case going on okay excellent you take the side of the one that says that he has to be there excellent It's said it's he didn't say on this but I'm just taking what he said before putting this yeah does the bull have to be there or not you hold like which is great yeah I like it actually I didn't think about that it's true we'll show this why not because uh it's what this one is a classic that's why uh that's why I remembered it when this part I mean maybe the music he left twice about the same thing as she had a daughter you know that wait you already Sayang it what number is that say name four what she keeps you up at night I'm sorry does she keep you up at night she's like my kids that they slept through the entire night I never heard any of my kids my wife lied and she said they used to get up every two hours and Checker huh my wife gets kept up you're not you you look look okay good says listen who what's going on here is very very interesting because over here RAB say that I need this bull and the the fact that you got rid of it you put you gave the the bull to B so Rashi says over here this is what we call this is different than this is different than oh P happened and there's an invisible is on the Pie Pizza it's different over here he did something with with his hands he took the bull and he gave it he he he gave it over to Basin that's a so it's different than so so how how could aring that you could you could do the whole the whole case without the bull in front of you since I don't need the bull so the fact that you gave the bull over to bz that's not he the hez would have happened on its own it's like PES Just Happening without you you don't have to ask PES to come here you don't have to give the Pie pizza to anybody it's just the the happened on The Pie Pizza over here also without the bull being the bull could run away you could put the bull in a in a in a aam you can do whatever you want it's not going to help you bz is going to do a without him there first of all I no no they say sh yeah because p is he we're we talking about P before I said before I didn't say now he going back five minutes ago but now we're talking about something else I'm saying I just want to point out that sometimes you do have to bring animals to court and there was a case here in withar B the famous he's a real character and uh he he was suing the police that they uh they harassed him and they pulled a gun on his dog so he's suing the police so the cop said he's a very dangerous dog so he said no no he's a very small cute dog so just says you have to bring the dog so this is him in court with the dog so the judge said Lisa he's not a very big large dangerous dog but he's definitely not a small little cute dog and I don't remember what happened but what there was no no no you don't Su people here in this country doesn't work anyway what's what's going on here behind the scenes it says in the that you ston the the the axe the bull and also the owner should die so the here they're similar so this there's another you have to stand for for so just like the owner the human being says in the POs you have to be there so too the sh has to be there what's the logic I don't know what the logic without logic I don't need to know time of [Music] the a bu is like a human being you can't just make OCC says there's a time of the there's a reason when you're talking about a human being does he have a no get to us maybe maybe when we stand and talk to the oneon-one daving or your room whatever it is it's a whole different story you could have a not a tin like a but a like you could you could talk to if you're there in front of him it's a lot better I'm saying than sending the Reb to talk for you or sending ask somebody else to D you're yourself you're the you're the you're the b you put me on the world you gave me this thing you gave me this uh this K let me use it like you made me a a woman to have children was it was a great and listen to it you have to be there you have to be one1 call whatever you want yeah one1 that's right you di one one to absolutely which by the way it's not a New Concept the yeah okay yeah but he's talking about yeah not a it's a great thing he's those it's famous because that's why 100% really wow my son AKA sent me this morning a meme that uh is just a guy going crazy on a keyboard he's like and it says in the bottom this is you a chabas going on Google to see your argument on the sh by the chabas table like you want to be the one that's right so anyways so Mark came out the benir was awarded a th sheel okay great it wasn't the money it was him messing with the cops like don't mess with me you guys are okay minister of the what yeah he's the minister yes kidding this morning send it to me you know all these little arguments I forgot okay whatever there's four people that go instead of the owner a watcher that doesn't get paid somebody borrows you pay a guy to watch your stuff and somebody that rents if the bull killed so a gets you kill an animal that kills a human being if it's done deliberately why as we said many times is only for a if the animal's already M and he took a guy to watch the animal you kill the animal right oh this is in addition to the you were paid to watch my animal and now they took my animal away from me and they stoned him to death you owe me a $2,000 bow you're not going to get out of that and remember this this is very important for the there's one exception to the four now we have to understand why does a watcher that doesn't get paid why does he not have to pay for the bull what's the case if he watched it a call it a he put it behind a metal fence and there's a metal chain on him whatever it is that's what we call there it's an accident and everybody is Potter everybody meaning besides one guy remember who what's your name I just noticed you what's your name live serm from welcome you behind brother sh another time did we meet before shabas Oh and you came anyway that was in the bur Park she yeah I remember you now he made a and he came during the time even like it was before before it was also beautiful beautiful I just got yeah what's your kiss of H yeah ah your bells are beautiful you know that our big Glick over here that we have fer from Bells I shouldn't mention his name every time I mention his name he gets in trouble okay the B is that watch believe it or not and they go to him they they okay if it's oess then everybody should be should be exempt besides the and if they didn't watch why should because if you look at the so if he didn't watch him at all says oh so we have to be M what's he didn't do says Rashi that he locked the door properly and the door is closed that it won't come down which means that a a pretty strong wind not very strong but strong like on the beach thear talks about the wind of the ocean on the beach it'll knock down the door but the point is that this is normal this is how people watch their bulls they don't go crazy and tie Bulls up with chains they put them behind the [Music] door that's enough enough he has to step it up he has to step it up which I think if you think about it for a second it's a beautiful thing you have two human beings that are identical basically one he has to watch more and one he has to watch less and what's the difference because it's the expectations what do I expect from you you get what you PID for you didn't pay so I can't expect you to go crazy and watch him and then and then stand guard with a gun and chain normal do right spectate the expectation is much higher M what is going to get to us I think it's galic each person has to maximize his potential and that's his expectation in other words a person that's born with a certain kin he's going to have to own up to it he can't say oh but plany doesn't learn that much well maybe you have more time than plany Maybe less time PL doesn't give that but you have more money than PL you have to give more each person potential if you're okay now says who is it going according to we have to become familiar with these we'll see soon a r check this out the says but if he's a renter since he pays for it so is what he's either like he's like a again A Guy Rents a car a guy borrows a car forget it he's he's manage done he has to take care of it perfectly unless the car conks out as he's driving it in the street but otherwise if somebody hits it you hit something whatever you have to take good care of it but what about somebody that rents a car is he like a or like a big difference what if it was stolen you rented the car do you have to pay for for for theft today we don't care you know hers will pay for it I don't know what but maybe maybe it this depends and if that's the case check this out look at this I just stuck question mark I don't know what that is soor says he's like a he goes like that in other words he's only in the worst of the worst when he's negligent but everything else stolen lost stolen all that stuff B if that's the caseen we got a big problem the BR that talks about all four doesn't put the two of them together so it cannot be and just pay attention over here these words this is the question it should say put the both of them together the is going to flip it is going to say that mayor actually holds that like and then you get rid of this question okay I'm just pointing it out here be easier in a few more lines and if it goes according to check out this you guys are going to love this look at that Arrow it should say that all them when they from no somebody else not may not we're going to see in a second literally it's a miss the middle of the that if you watch a animal the best of the best you tied it with the chain you're still only way that he's exempt is if he kills him there's no way to watch an animal an animal that's that that that that that did damage there's no way to watch him it's like it's like I don't want to be compare them to an animal it's much worse than an animal but you have these guys from October 7th what kind of shirro you going to give them you're going to put them in a jail the only way to do it is Chuck ja death penalty what else how you can't trust a guy like that so the reason why he pays K and also the the amount of the sh is because he doesn't he he's he's negligent there's no way to watch this guy the only way to watch him is to kill him so you're now you're negligent for everything there's no way out of this however okay asking me a question how come it's not in the same category as because it's not it's in the same category as like turning of the sponsored by holy neph yard is tonight is tonight and says the if you want you just say does this a number of times you see on the side brings down different garas that it's done yes it fits into the category Top Line we asked if so listening right the first line on the no the category is that so fits in well because actually holds that that is like if you give your bull to somebody that doesn't get paid to watch you get what you pay for if he goes out and causes damage listen you can't say I'm doing it for free you accept it upon yourself liability you're liable who if if the animal got damaged you're watching an animal comes another bow and Gores it that doesn't have to pay for the damages says what's the case it doesn't make any sense if he accepted upon himself a full sh so even when somebody damaged you your animal the the The Watcher should have to be paying for that he accepted upon he accept to watch it both ways that it shouldn't damage others and others should damage it yeah you're you're you're a shepherd and you took upon yourself to watch the Sheep comes a wolf and eats your sheep you're not that's what you that's what your job is so so you didn't get paid for it but you said you're going to watch the Sheep you you should take you should take responsibility and if he didn't accept he said before you know what I'll do you a favor I'll watch it you're going to the store for 5 minutes I'll watch it but I'm not responsible he says straight out I'm not responsible for anything so if so I feel even if the bull goes and damage somebody else why do you make between and he did accept upon himself he noticed that this bull has an issue he likes to go after people or things oh says a very interesting thing here according to Rashi when he knows that this bull has a little bit of a twitch in his leg and he likes to kick other animals so he took it by himself to watch that that that shouldn't happen but says Rashi galik he thought that this guy he's a tough bull he's a tough guy any bull that comes next to him he starts kicking he starts showing them no bull will come next to him that's what he thought in his mind he thought I don't have to watch him I have to watch that he shouldn't cause damage to others but that a bull will be and come and hit him no he's a mug a bull he'll kick them right away that I didn't take responsibility he never thought he had to do that that's why's TI the we have a threeway we have when it comes to M how much do you have to watch you tied him up by his rain or or you close the door properly behind him it's not the best Shir in the world but you close the door and he went out and he damaged says that if you do the best of the best then you Potter but if you did you just close the door says argues so this is the the famous that we had and nobody understands today we'll understand them a little bit better he says no a time is actually better off or worse off than a [Music] m but if you do a you do you just put a mood a guy an animal that killed three human beings three other animals whatever it is you put him behind the door that could be blown open by a strong wind but you Potter Potter you hear this a bll that damaged three other bows or three other humans if it's a b that never damaged anybody you need to put him behind the midal gate it's unbelievable if you go back to the look what it says here it's talking about a how do I know because it says and you don't watch [Music] him comes and he says no doesn't even work you see we're going says that even the least of the sh is perfect says even the moir you put him in a zoo behind double metal gates with electric with everything and he goes out and he damages you're the only way to get out of it is to kill him so comes out from the Mish that according to everybody listen to this according to everybody when it comes to you need a the is in good not good but in a time you need time what's going on with listen to this this is very important to understand because you get confused as by the by we said a different in these words over here it means most Bulls people don't watch them we once said that it means within the bull himself is he watched or not no now we're talking about the human being the humans watch him like in South Africa where was the we saw Bulls walking around the streets cuz people that's how they get married they have to give the Father the kala 16 Bulls whatever is so you have Bulls everywhere you're driving down the highway all some Bulls walk cows walk why you go up north you see just cows grazing in Switzerland they just graze nobody watches them now the Tor says and this how it goes in steps here this a bull nobody watches says the you got to step it up buddy you have to watch your you need at least a basic otherwise and then when it talks about says it goes in steps human beings don't watch your animal says the Torah you better watch your animal for says the step it up even more you got to go from a simple watch to a major a Moola and then once I know the major one now I'm doing a and therefore tells me that every type of animal whether it's a needs says similar type of logic but he starts from a different place no it's not true most people watch their animals they watch it a basic type of watching yeah they throw behind the simple door and then the comes and say step it up so what's stepping it up the is telling you go from to then now it doesn't make any sense that doesn't make sense the already told me by you should have a sh so then why does the T say again you better watch him again what's more than a Shir another sh and this I got to show you this because y sent me somebody sent it to him that a farm business to pay 100,000 after a cow kills a woman this happen this Friday the cow escaped and killed a woman so no that's that's already another thing but we're talking about the say talking about in terms of so listen to this this Con all over if the already says by watch it the greatest then the T says and by the way by mood you better watch it the greatest sh so it's two things in a row it's it's adding a to adding a so what do we do we step it down one which doesn't make sense logically but that's what the Torah did is tell you don't have to do you could do but which is much less dangerous than a you need to do the top of the top do this they should be equal you can't you shouldn't watch this one the and not the so the're different this is a little tricky you need not for for the the means you need this to teach us that if you don't watch a and then we said but it's a so we took it down so we need this for the mood itself to tell me that a mood you don't have to do not to teach me something about a to teach me about a mood himself you're right you are right you need this P for the mood itself and not to learn time but at the end of the day it says instead of so now I I can learn have a wonderful day for man