Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 40 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning from shom W Felder my good friend who's a nephew of zor Spiro sent me this picture of his uncle in middle of the family Kaneka party learning the D and preparation for his nightly she his 9-year-old D great fan of y recruiter as well was watching along with them all the best the Felder Cleveland Ohio it's a very beautiful picture smack a picture you see this picture take a look it's unbelievable these are the new people who gave on Kana on Kana went ahead and gave a dollar a day the next at least 365 days land out you see greens white I fish Anonymous from Lakewood Solomon Lightner at least Aon Weinberg Howard Han Kim wowski Isaac held Michael [Music] daer it should be for the whole year dear belly I don't know how many diok people have already mentioned this but I thought you should point it out that hopefully you read it mentioned the correct pronunciation at the end of the word El with you say in somebody wrote to me you don't say you say so you don't say ah it's ah not anyway he wanted to say I love these di people M I love this stuff however this word is red meaning it has to be not so if you do it then you can't even put the emphas the emphasis at the end of the word is what he's saying this is your brother Li's Brother David Son of MD from Manchester brother of liby oh I have to say that the charge last excellent makes the sh much smoother reell I heard the distress signal from RBS was alerted by a few people from around the globe just let you know I'm still here keeping Strong by I'm already passed the 2year da anniversary 830 D so good to have you back the people of RBS don't let the mistakes and people from the RBS don't let this mistakes slip through b I'll be back in person soon Shi Cohen B family Sant house it says at them please don't say my name so I won't say his name de rebell I joined in so but I've only emailed you as I now as I want you to give a shout out to Shi grosberg a 13-y old boy who has now been doing the D since the middle of nador for a year now and has finished for his s with the and has even signed up a couple of his friends from his school thanks for being such a great mag and rabai a few people including uh Benny but over here this is a beautiful uh letter from schy foram who sits over there every single day a young B who comes every day here he is for years already how long are you doing the da from tius when was the last time you got to get over here you want to get over here get over here so it says like this de belly just something small to to express my appreciation for all the time and effort you put into the she every day she is always so interesting full of life what for sure helps understand the Su and remember it I don't think I'll ever be able to thank you enough what you and mdy did to my learning is well and Beyond I wish you only happiness and health happy Kaneka PS this week he spoke about saying a good word so I added a package of paragraph K gave me a beautiful package of fancy fancy sugani and he wrote a beautiful uh story story over there and you go to every day all day but you start off your day with a and he's one of the big in the morning should go we should finish together people are jealous you know you have all these ideas start sing in Hebrew you want me to start sing Shear in Hebrew you don't know did you hear something what you heard something b b and if I say a in Hebrew they'll come okay let's see let's see nine months later the she started what they're saying last night we had a meeting here 10 people whether or not I should start saying Shear in Hebrew or not and here comes foram he says they want you to see she in Hebrew and he had no idea about this meeting kiss from the sponsored for the unity of last the last day everybody say worldwide I'll say it again the worldwide all those who say yasner the we learned I'm just thinking this now we learned that if you do a mitvah with the one who did it first so she was that her kid was four generations before right who was it for so when you jump into the thing first you you have so you win tens of thousands you do it next week you got to you got to jump in right away but try it you'll let me know next person should do it father hner 28th of by her grandson yob climb from Baltimore of the mon come from supporting say we have to do a little bit of here we're going to it's like 10 minutes or less to to finish off the then we go into a lot of easy but we're middle of a so if you want you can look at these charts I made it very very simple it's a it's a nice review of what we learned yesterday hold on I got you I got you don't worry about it okay yesterday we had theak he started off a little rough it was very not understood what he said he said the bull of a somebody doesn't have full capacity who gour and then we're not going to go into it but basically he said has to says why would he oh no no what he meant to say is we had three yesterday the says it's a visualization you have to visualize so you visualize it that's why he said the wrong L uh another was that even a mistake makes it into the G it's another is that yeah when people did theyard it with the with the with the mistake so even when they fix the mistake you have to continue with the mistake so we know where we're holding okay I saw a not the that lived in the 1600s and he writes that this okay that's what he read we're not going into that point is says that if the causes damage he pays half ask the why you have to say you pay half just say the word if it's a everybody knows every kid in knows that a pays half so why do you have to say if it's a a never pays half M pays the whole so what's going on here why does he have to say either what M says doesn't pay and says you pay so check this out we have ra ra says no we're talking about a m it's a big there's a that only pays half why because he did and it goes these three that we say here that he did a it's very interesting if you do a a basic sh that only works on a m it doesn't work on a you have to do a says so we're talking about a m and he did a but every m is a so for the Tam you have to pay the 50 the 50 for the M you did a great Shir for M you don't have to pay anything for the M part you have to split this animal in half half of it is a m you did a great Shir you close the door behind him for the time the 50% of the time you didn't do a good Shiro so you have to pay for the time new but we're talking about yeah you give tropus and you have to pay from the body of this m 50% for the time says listen to this it's a who pays 50% what do you ask me it'ses what's thees it's a massive I have it if I would have asked you give me an example it's a riddle give me an example of a who only pays half 50% here's a here's a m that pays 50% like a time why because we we view this B as two pieces okay then oh no that's that's why I mentioned yesterday there's a cost of noar we'll get to it eventually he did there he did means as rash explained a very good sh he closed the door it wasn't with in a metal safe why do he have anything on the to why is that because that's because for a time you need much more why because there's a that's a says yes we're talking about a m but we're talking about a m that he didn't watch him at all why because aay doesn't hold of these three things he holds some of them but he doesn't hold that you take M so what's going on here the opposite of what what says you have a bll that you split down the middle the part that's a m you have to pay for why he didn't watch him at all he didn't even close the door so you have to pay for the part that's a time you can pay because I don't hold like r on X I don't hold that you could you could collect from a there's no collecting from so that 50% is gone the 50% that's a m then pay for the 50% of the M which is also a massive yeah it's a big I have a m that you pay only 50% instead of a full so we're holding on the bottom it's a great on the bottom three lines from the bottom according to arue you see one of them is an ex I was thinking about yesterday when I saw AKA of course I like where's the father you here yesterday okay welcome back so this is very simple we're gonna according to and they not in agreement all those three things there's EX on one of them therefore makes sense we're talking about a but according to I don't understand says what force say we're talking about a say he's talking about a time it doesn't time come before a m every bull has become a time then why did jump to a case of M what did he gain by that why and the explains very nicely because let's say it's a case like we said before even a r said it it's talking about a case that he did a decent watching sh and he didn't do a very very good one a decent one medium one that doesn't knock down the door or didn't do anything this this is just part of the question if you do a basic according to so we're talking about he didn't do at all so if it's a and he didn't do so we go back to the original question if it's a time why in the world say everybody knows that a Time pays half just say no I can't just say that's a massive we have a shil whether or not you could actually collect from a when it's owned by a deranged person yes you can go and grab money from him so the question is according to why you talking about a say we're talking about because has major look at the chart basically saying in a you have more because once it's a then you have I'm coming to tell you mass that there's something called a but we view it as 50/50 it's half M half every M that I'm telling you by saying that we're talking about a m I'm also going to tell you the m is enough to watch it with the that's a massive nobody understands it here what what's the logic that you be able to watch a Time less than you watch an animal that's known to kill other people I know kills a lot of people it's good just put it in a a regular uh you know one of those flimsy doors an animal that never killed anybody you got to lock him up like you lock up a lion in a zoo that's a massive those two enough that's why I said it's talking about a the third is also there sticks them all three together I'm assuming that the says two not three because that's already that that we already spoke about that is or maybe 3 equals two whatever the the point is we have these three when you say great right that's why right that's why I just said like we had this before fine again before we said we have who says he pay and then he said says he agrees to see he agrees like this says no between whether or not we we we put out the bottom [Music] one but it's different and this is very we're very familiar with this does the status of a m go down does it drop to the original do we restart the clock when when it changes ownership it was aood they changed their status they became normal they became older meaning once it's a m it's always a m so Rashi says something incredible over here think about it for a second you have a m but we view the M as right so how do you take money from this from this bull very good you split it down the middle half half Mal the the bull caused $100,000 damage well 50% of the the animal is only worth a th000 so he takes $500 because that's all you get is half of time or he's going to tell me $1,000 whatever but you take the lower amount and for the $100,000 half of that $50,000 has to pay from his cash because half of it is a m half is at the top okay and therefore holds it was a m but now that thises started hearing and speaking he became a regular human being then it became a time again and therefore you pay like a which is much easier we're going forward here would say yes I know I say you have to go through the whole process again once it's a time it's a time no one wants to know if he becomes a short again does he jump right back to the mood that he was yesterday or since he became a Tom you have to go through the whole process I don't know seems like You' have to go through old once he he's changes status he can't just jump back to another status the who takes care of the has to pay for him his own pocket we said yes to he's going to get compensated but right now the faor from his pocket but what happens if the bull kills somebody Bo say the that is any bull that kills a human being or any animal that kills a human being you have to payer you have to pay the value of of something of either the person that died or the person that killed the owner it says think about what it says here this money is a Pon you know you go the re you get a pidard what's a pidard give him a p you give what you give him a pigon I said get give you haven't been by Reb no I guess nobody ever gave me a pigon okay no no I'm kidding I thought I said give yeah you give a Reb a pigon I I think I gave once to to RAB David okay fine you give opinion what does that mean you're you're trying to redeem your soul your soul your nees did an AA it killed somebody it's whatever it is so you give money and that it's instead it's like do karus you know a dollar a day says Benny that's not enough for real you want a real Co for now this AB tropus he's not the real owner he's doing bz in a favor whatever it is so when this bull goes ahead and he doesn't need a kapara it's not him it's his fault okay I hear they talk about it is do we literally learn that it comes as a kapar the money is there just to give you CH Kap we talking about youngsters that are below the age of 13 they're not anyway they don't need CH that's what it goes like how much money do you have to give each person is different so goes by the value of the human being we valuated on a slave market how much is this big strong guy that works out every day versus let's say the owner of the sh is old man doctor tell tell him he has one week to live put him on the market for a slave market maybe you'd have to pay the guy to take you I don't know whatever let's call 25 bucks he's worth $25 50 bucks yeah a good 25y old slave is worth $10,000 so he has to give the amount of I don't know doesn't say exactly the what so we have the the person that died he's worth $10,000 no the guy that damaged now think about the logic here if it's to redeem your NE your soul what would we base it on yourself or the guy that was killed yourself you have to redeem ne how much is your neish worth 25 bucks 50 bucks it's about to expire you go by it goes because how much damage did you cause you killed this big working out guy he's worth $10,000 on the slave market so pay $10,000 it goes by m how much money you owe it goes why do he go by the ma the one that did the damage because trying to get a Chua you're trying to to redeem yourself redeem yourself so it's yourself now it has nothing to do with who you killed no that's not the maybe perhaps everybody agrees it's one of the classicor we're not saying that's how it is he saying maybe that's you can't force it maybe everybody agrees that kuf kapar the ker that you pay over here is to redeem your what is the that has nothing to do with it's just a question how do we evaluate it do we go by the person that caused the damage or a person that was damaged is going to go into the here might time the ra it doesn't make any sense to to base it on who got damaged if you're telling me that it's it's a damage you're paying damages so then you have to look at the person that was damaged but what's the what logical can you pass say that you would base it on the guy that was damage now if you want to go in time of the C they say I think we're going to learn this is that yeah because the more that the N is worth the more kapari you need yeah I like I don't want to get into this and it's it's probably not accurate but let's say again is about to only going to live another five minutes so how much damage did you cause you cause like five minutes worth of Life how many how many and could this person say okay so you give him that amount a guy that has a full potential his whole life is in front of him so even if you're going to go on on that basis maybe there's a time of the crow over here like you have to go based on okay fine you go based of on the says no we have here a classic it says look at these it says when regarding somebody that causes a woman to miscarry she she's try to yeah and over here in our by bull that kill somebody calls it the of just like by a woman you go by how much the baby was worth the mother it doesn't go by Logic says it's based on the person's soul on his so it goes on yourself on not on what what's the connection yes we're here to make you do chuva how I'm going to base it on on a guy that lives across the street what's the difference the Torah says you're gonna base it on the N why because I'm trying to redeem your soul that's how the T said it we're not doing something physical here we're doing a chuva how do you do chuva go to the the Reb the Reb says you have to do TR give 10 times okay that's what the T picked you go based on the N not because you damage the N no you damage your own and you have to redeem your how much to pay based on the we know throughout was tells you're not going to believe this this unbelievable like the B there's a tremendous his name is somebody called you should get to know him he's unbelievable says that this is considered typically to tell anybody this guy's a great guy what's the first response the guy says no no no he great like just reminds me talking about I just thought that when after I did the the on the sh so a lot of the guys went over to the beler because he's in ch and he said we didn't know that that you know your R guy from the K the guy with the shav guy from MD he knows K like that so the bza very cleverly told him he says no no you should see is very weaken very very weaken like people like to let them think that I know K Co besides cooling but that's normal that's normal action yeah yeah he's excellent but you should know he's a little he you know this guy knows yeah but he's that's the nor that's right away that's what you say okay fine yeah B whatever you try to knock the guy immediately so that's why you not allow to tell somebody somebody we're talking about two over here different so tells when he comes to you make sure you bring him I want to meet this big time talking about shows up to one day it seems like tells the guest ask me anything I'm ready for a question he's testing him I guess instead of insulting him a lot of times in you they ask the guy they ask the tal and you call yourself a guy Rob what are you talking about this guy doesn't know you ask me okay he asked we have a partnership in a bull and the bull goes ahead and kills if a bull says Rashi damages somebody else a bull of a partnership damages somebody else so how do you pay that guy I pay 50 you pay 50% and the guy gets 100% but over here we're talking about to redeem your nefes maybe to redeem my nefes I have to pay 100% And you have to pay 100% but that's not fair now he gets 200% it how could that work that's not what the is saying but something along those lines each one pays 100% says just pay once so what are you gonna do so each one give half of the the value of the guy they killed was $10,000 each pays $5,000 together you have 10,000 you have to do you have to redeem yourself you have to pay the whole thing it's not going to be enough for you to give half is kind of stuck it's interesting let me think about it starts thinking say let me ask you another question so we know is the Torah says that each person whether the Z I couldn't find the new one did a much nicer one this is Old Chart this from actually from amican sorry I apologize I couldn't get hold of Yoshi at 3 in the morning said through the sin the each person has a certain amount certain value so if a person says the of a girl who between five and 20 me so she has to pay 10 Che you go on the list 520 girl 10 so it says like this if a person says such a thing bezant goes they see that this guy is you know he's not he's not known to pay up his his pledges and they go they grab something they something from him Somebody by mistake bring you don't so is going to explain why so what if a person's ax kill somebody it's like so you don't have to go grab stuff from him why a person is very serious about his a he wants to get rid of his a don't worry about it he'll bring the when he needs to bring you have it I don't know about you I was thinking about you no but I know like here for sure if if I go to E store and the guy's selling AUM and uh I see this I'm not sure I want to buy it so I told the guy listen could I take this to the r for 25 minutes no problem you also no problem ah he might steal it no because you can't be y with the stolen asri right nobody says no problem in the jewelry store no problem most sometimes depends you have to give him Mash not with this right why because it's we don't I'm not worried we don't have to waste bz's time with a guy that's he'll bring his he knows what's good for him yeah okay I'm sure it's happened people forget to bring it back [Music] okay no most of the times they forget I'm thinking nobody's gonna steal a Mitzvah oh and if he right what happens what if what happens if he damages it no he's asking go what if he damages it what he comes back and the p is missing it you let it go okay it's part of business fixes Queens so now we ask the second [Music] question I have to give it to my friend it's money that goes to my my buddy for right for that what the famous Mya in brisk a guy came to the brisk I think it's the brisk he says what's what's that in this in this bull in this this cow I Just sh the $2,000 cow he takes a look he says trfe throw it out okay no problem goes to next week the same butcher comes to the risk says my my neighbor this that the r girl says you owe your neighbor $20 says 20 no no way I'm not gonna pay this guy so the RIS girl says I don't understand when I told you you lost $2,000 this is the same toyra the same R same sack when I tell you you have to pay $20 to your neighbor you go suar you start telling me I don't know what I'm talking about and the made a mistake look at it again but you forget you don't forget forgetness when it comes says over here oh maybe I have to give to my friend yeah the T says you should give to the friend you damage your friend you pay him no no no no that's different that's different than I don't have to worry so maybe also I have to worry about it I have to worry by the way real quick because m is running late time also lived about 400 years ago he's very close to the king and the King asked him if you CL you do so many misses you learn so much the whole thing how come how come your M doesn't come I'll tell you why because we don't have the proper we don't have we're not we're M the other one we don't forget each other so the king says I don't believe it anyway long story short that the king once it was start to rain he was in a forest he had to take off his big to run go through a river and he saw a light he was going to knocked on the door nobody's opening up a Jew opened up for him and the Jew didn't recognize and the Jew said come in and gave him the wife was all worried and then the next day the guy says you need a ride somewhere yeah take me to this and he dropped him off next to the palace and he ran in there and disappeared the Jew had no idea and then they called the Jew to the palace and they said the king wants you the king says you recogniz no I don't recognize he says I'm the guy that you saved yesterday you help me out what do you want so Jew said the Jew instead of saying give me $10 million Jew said listen the other Peddler that competes with me that other Jew make sure he doesn't sell on that corner so the king said oh okay now huh no sometimes you mean this overcome your or listen to this we say another he didn't sin his Bulls the bull no I'm not so worried about my bull sinning I don't have to pay theer because a person's not so careful with this says enough leave me alone you got me good I'm still thinking about the first question what you you asking me a second question now D says interesting the Stag means he became sick became sick from thinking about this and now you want another thing real quickly again real quickly the famous story I'll say it anyways because it's a gooda there was a kid that was off the D and his father really wanted him to meet sure you all know the story whatever it was I don't remember if he was marrying somebody he shouldn't be marrying and he goes toan and raan spoke to him for a long time and was able to convince him so they asked this boy when your father tells you to go to that's the last thing that you want to do why would you go to to the rabbis so I'll tell you why because when I was iner gave a to all the kids in the class and everybody knew the answer and they all got a candy when it came to me I didn't know the answer so asked me a really really simple question and I still didn't know the answer so gave me two candies and he said in t you get awarded for effort and you you worked you two questions you didn't know you get two candies and that gave him a great feel and uh over here also he asked him two questions they didn't know fine W you borrow your your friend's car in this case your friend's Bull and you thought that it's a time you thought you have it under control even if it damages you only pay 50% turns out he lied to you this guy this the sh is really bad they have to split it each one pays 50% the gar is gonna explain everything perfectly what if yeah without fail by the way you want to see a nice dent in your car you lend your card to somebody I'm not saying okay whatever lend your cars it's m no come out every time sorry the kid threw up in the backseat I didn't have time to fix it's not a big deal if you yeah okay fine happened to me also so you give the guy you're a nice guy you give him oh by the way he killed three people yesterday and from now on you have to pay sh you're not M right the next day can I borrow you sh no why not I don't C okay yes such a bad guy H the the the owner only has to pay half so what's in this this goes according to what we said very good we're talking about goes back and reverts back to and the has nothing to do with this anymore let's explain everything you B you thought that it's a but it turns out a so oh by the way I have a picture here of and this is a picture of I decided we have to when we say the the names of we should put it in okay it says like this I I'll pay half and you pay half so he says why this is like a text message why I bed a bull not a lion yeah but you knew he he's a Goring type of bull here's a bull not a lion True by bored him as a time not a m so he tells him yeah but either way you'd pay half for the time so pay whatever you had to pay anyway she tells him no you'd pay from the animal's body I wouldn't have to pay anything it comes right out of the body so he tells him but you'd still need to pay me back the half that comes out of the body either way so what kind of answer is that fine but I could have admitted and not paid anything or I could have let it hide in the lake in the aam okay that's the back and forth here does have to be like or yeah yeah you go to bed and yeah yeah but the we once learned that there's no call when it comes to a bull it's called by K not byll I think that's what we said no so let's go we got to go I didn't borrow a line I thought it's sort of like whatever you want to call it I borrowed something I thought I could control I put a shoelace around his neck Al the guy he starts killing people and this and that no you knew that he's a dangerous bull you just didn't know three times tell say but I at the end of the day I B A and A okay fine you thought it's a so pay what thought anyways you thought that it pays 50% so pay that 50% that you thought yeah but I thought it's a and only pays from its own body so pay from its own body pay from the body yeah pay from the body but you're gonna have to refund that body that we took the money from you're you responsible for this bull yes I'm going to you're going to take from the bull that doesn't belong to you belongs to me but you going to have to re reimburse me the name oh so what is what is so if you say yeah okay I'll tell him that's uh that's uh that's Yoshi 100% his idea his everything so we have here a little bit we we we had a much tomorrow we'll show the rest here it is this is our famous sh uh that's part of it fine huh I know I know I know whatever you don't going to ask cases on 3D a guy that's not 100% yish I know it's like a it's like it's more like a place that you graze on it's not so much like SW yeah now he tells him listen I could have hit him I wouldn't have to pay let me ask you a question if you owe somebody money are you allowed to wiggle your way out of it and hide your bull in AUM yeah but how am I allow to it's m fooling fooling the Ty hasem says pay from his goof from his body oh I'm going to hide him in a garage that's right the answer is you're not allowed to do it and says but I could threaten the guy and I can negotiate with the guy and maybe he'll come back he'll come down a little bit on his on his on his price that's what says the Turning of the D sponsored by in memory of my holy nephew son of Robert and Jen early and it's and we're doing a tickle campaign not the most month one but we're trying to get people to do something monthly something daily and remember people ask me all the time why does uh mdy need over a million dollars it's probably CA we have two artists we have executive director we have uh editor kids we have a lot of salaries and we give out tons of garas and we have different projects and programs and we have a ky and kid it adds up I don't know why it adds up this we have this base marage that we have to take care of ET said I get paid $900,000 a year no I don't not one dime yes correct we're talking about a case you don't have any of these excuses I could have been I could have this I could have the B already grabbed they heard the story they went they grab your B so then why does the owner have to pay half name has a good you let now I can't even negotiate with so he says if I would have given it back to you what what's your that's by me in my hands I would have given to you and B would have taken it from you what do you didn't gain anything I don't know if there's more text messages here no that's it okay fine I would have brought him to the to the meadow at the end of the day I don't care we're talking about a so you could hide him wherever you want to hide him bz is going to take money right out of your real estate says but where's the gar going with this okay that's obious answer but maybe this guy has nothing all he has to his life he's like a guy from Gaza all he has is like one donkey doesn't have real estate was bomb he he's left the just like I owe you you the owner I I have to pay the N there's three people here there's the owner there's the guy that borrowed the the bull and there's the guy that got that got damaged so the guy that borrowed the bull says I don't have to give it back to you owner I'm going to give it back to the one that was damaged why because there something called we're not going to show any graphic pictures the kid are oh you guys see this I'll do it again I didn't that's beautiful like this here's the Mala he gave money to the Lea and the Lea L money to the rash so the malva goes directly to the rash he doesn't have to go to Thea in our case I didn't realize I just threw this in there it's not money I should have put a Shard there Yoshi would have put a sh so the the owner of the of the bull gave the bull to to the likea Thea and so therefore the Lea the owner of the Bull gives the bull directly to the one that had damage he doesn't have to worry about the real owner why because the bull damaged the N so the N gets the bull at the [Music] end we just show that's the next thing they became a I lent somebody an animal and he didn't take very good care of it and he became returned it it reverts back as we said that what that even though it's a m when it goes back to the owner it turns back into a and he only pays half an e says sorry say when you you borrow the the m and you thought that it's a time it doesn't go back to being a time you have to pay 5050 the mishna says that means it doesn't revert back so what is it so the says three basically the typical one says yes everybody the other says no it's not and the third ter is one in one you have to break this you're right were written by different one holds one holds not that's not a good we don't like that we like to be consistent when once it's a it's always a it doesn't go back both why does it go back to being a in the you don't have the you can't can't take my animal do something to my animal without my permission you can't take you can't jump into my my house and make my animal into so yes I lend it to you but still mine you don't have that right is the opposite the whole thing it reverts back to being a at the end of the day he says R Papa it's it's still considered it never went back you don't have a it's considered that person's you borrow my car it's my car while you're driving it it didn't become your car for that day so it has one name it's not you want to see again if you have a bull that already killed we said that you don't kill him typically you kill a bull because why he was forced to kill he was trained to kill it's a beautiful shil what would you say if I asked you could you take a bull that killed a human being but he's forced to kill you're bring as a carbon it would seem like it's not a very good idea yes he was forced but he's a bad bull he has he's tainted he's a bull that killed a human being you're bring car it's not his fault a well at the end of the day I don't care that it wasn't his fault but he did in AA the worst of the worst killing a human being huh yeah he's not yeah he's like a gun bad gun you can't even bring uh I was just thinking you can't even bring metal on the M because it's a killer so this actually killed look at the for a second second if you bring a carbon you see the I made a green it's not so noticeable from Far here but it's there that's extra so we have four an animal that had relations with a human being you cannot bring as a carbon animal that you did you looked at it he said you are my idol whatever you can't bring it as a carbon not only if you set it aside to be also comes says that an animal that killed somebody not not what not what can't bring as a carbon maybe it's something that answers our question explains rash why don't need say both both have the same exact they both have so I have to say says because this part of the question you need both each one has whether the animal was forced which usually it is then you kill it anyways you can't make it a car but when it comes to killing somebody then the is not here that's what we want right this it's not the same they have different the one that was forced and the one that wasn't the one that killed the human being has to pay the the money going to explain that has to do with he he was and there's a death over here so that's why I would think that you have to pay no you don't pay says now I know why you need both you see carb what do you mean carb because look at this what are we talking about over here we're talking about all it's not like a farfetched thing oh maybe it's talking about a carbon the whole p is talking about a carbon so of course we're talking about and it says that's not the same thing you don't bring an animal that killed somebody on purpose but if he was forced in the you could bring it as a carbon so you could bring it as a carbon no whether or not you have to kill him but the carbon know whether was o or you can't bring it as a carbon doesn't say anything about when it comes to a carbon we're talking about killing the animal or not killing the animal have a wonderful day say now together have a wonderful the text he