Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 13 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning welcome to the guests we have two guests with a very similar name we have rebor fold and Reb folda what's your first name again M they're semi- related almost one is from a vior came in special for the shabbaton and he has a wife of a tus who allowed him to stay a little extra and uh you're here on vacation huh came for you came from me really yeah Rodney just moved down here it's his first time at the last year what's your name Rodney nimi from New York all the way from B it's not a how how far is BOA from York 40 so an hour wow so all those who came from Boa a bunch of guys yeah came in from B so this is my final Shear for now until I come back I think in February is the plan for Sim and uh we start off with a cap we'll say it all together I just got worded I don't know you know how these things work but supposedly this is for me very good news I hope it's for every body that the are inside cha Hospital yeah so they need a lot of lot of and we have to say kavana obviously they're expecting them there and they had over a month to prepare their arrival and they're very good at Hospitality these guys so I'm sure every door is rigged and we need a lot a lot of a lot of but it's it's a very good sign they they wanted to be there for a long time and um you know hopefully they find some some of the hostages or whatever it is they they able to find and it should be a tremendous for them and we could do what we know how to do and that is to learn Tyra to DAV we're here on the other side of the ocean 6,000 miles away and we do a lot with our Toyo and they're in there right now as we speak they're going in operations right now it's the middle of the night and that's where so we're going to learn and we're going to say together [Music] for [Music] everybody together she is dedicated to all the that need a lot of to all the to all the captured crazy number children and elderly they should have a complete demise they should disappear from the face of the Earth and uh we shouldn't hear from Mor sarus and cl is in a terrible terrible situation where people are scared a woman today um said something to me in a anti-semitic way and I I called her out on it and she apologized but it was obvious that she was anti-semitic the way she did it the way she said it and I think there's hundreds of thousands of people in every country now that have these views and K and we need a you know what we need we need Mia we need a g that's what we need we have uh email it's becoming a Min email from people that are here in the room as I told you personal reason I need vacation so I came to and to increase my vacation so avigor is one of the only people that was able to come there's maybe a handful we had jakov Citron Kim snow the both photographers videographers they came they're a very big part of M the Y they came they did a little bit of work aigar is one of the only ones that came all the way from AR Israel during the war to be a guest him Benny Benny rodnik also came as a guest um I I might be missing people but like to and Gary and Yosef and Noam and AI they're they're part of the staff so it's a little different but for somebody to come straight out just for that during the war leaving a family behind with the sirens and everything else how many sirens did you guys have there zero really wow it's not such a big okay forget you we had you mean us in B we had more than you we've had closed by but not by us that's incredible because you're all the way up North over there in the middle so in the middle they can't reach us and they can't reach us they could reach us they could but they don't want they could yeah you guys are small fish okay see you're not really aware of the whole P of the siren and where your kids are and that all okay as I told you and to increase my vacation I stayed for two weeks I was supposed to be on a fight back to Israel tonight Sunday morning my brother surprised me and came to America he told me he's going to my which brother zi he's at a wedding oh okay when I read this the first time should join him now I don't read all these emails but I do read all these emails but this was already inserted into thing so but I got to read it besides the fact that I get to go to Miami I was excited as I can go to live Shear so I extended my trip until Sunday and here I am live in Miami unfortunately for the last night but at least I made it thank you ra for my stress relief pill of to default do did everybody get a stress relief thing that was one of the there's a lot of merge a lot of merge I hope this letter reaches rebellion in rather personal nature so I'm going to I took out his name but because I'm in Miami and it's from a person in Miami and he's a rebi in Miami so I'm reading it sh my name is I am a re in Miami and I've been a talet of yours since mild B I don't think I've missed a day yet recently while watching the SC on K I heard your father-in-law speak for the first time and he mentioned that he was a specialist in sleep apnea true he's a world-renowned surgeon and one of his Specialties is sleep apnea I've been suffering sleep apnea for over 20 years I wanted to know if I can contact him perhaps he can help me Chicago kider my father-in-law has a house here in Miami and he comes here all the time so maybe we could get you in touch with him he does help R him and he's a big big big you're not actually coming to you in person while you're here not able to get there but it was one of those watching online father when he stay by fish perhaps one time he could be come to North Miami Beach can meet looking forward when my father-in-law does come here hopefully come soon we'll have to hook you up somehow I got this picture from two people this is schik Kleiner one person said SCH Klein but I found out later schik Kleiner learning the D on his way to Washington where only 25,000 people came to demonstrate and say that there should be a ceasefire in Gaza that's what was reported in the news you believe this I mean in some places obviously there was hundreds of thousands of people there and they did not come to say that there should be a ceasefire but you can spin it anywh you want I was this I said I'm going to read today so here it is learning with mdy since has been an absolute life changer the way you give the shear leaves an indelible mark on me every single day when I learned the shear sh in Connecticut was beyond anything I've ever experienced in my life to be able to meet you in person attend live sh to meet people in person that I've seen on screen was so incredible it was great reconnecting with my classmates and your brother as well meeting I'm not making it up it's in there I could stick it in but I didn't and so many other amazing people from my past and present so you remember this guy Pin gild okay so you didn't make it up I I didn't make it up the sh from ding with the sheer choir the speakers rabie y y Jacobson rabie AR of course you were captivated gave me trous during these difficult moments in our history theas from the food to the music dancing speech is all incredible I didn't wanted it to end looking forward to many I'm telling you we were there 23 in the morning people didn't want it to end looking forward to many more moments of with you finishing sh with my MD family talid p Gilden started MD by I've been pretty un Target since but sometimes I will admit I end up plain catch up anyway I came to the MD and like everyone else Mish no words also when Ben shushan was speaking shabas day during DAV he threw in a little something about maybe stepping out of a comfort zone and doing something extra because of October 7th maybe guys oh all the way from Detroit I know you live here right how you doing my cousin cuz get over here cuz you don't to say hello to 2,000 people come come get over here I made a last middle shabas but I decided to pick up come come come maybe you could get into the camera here you bend down say sh sh this is my cousin from Detroit say your name Ellie IR shal not you're elazar right not not after the gro after the you are yeah both named after the gr I didn't know that my cousin's named after the gro wow Ellie irons what I'm named after the gro yeah you weren't at the shavas you had known R oh thank you where was I going back back here oh because said something about doing K he took upon himself he made a br last year Curr shabas but decided to pick it up a notch and learn day from chabas as well and I look forward tole sh with all of MD so I say this over and over whoever wants to start from the beginning SH now great but it's not necessary because if you start in bama you're see mas isama and it's fine sh is just a ferris will wherever you get on you get get off you don't have to start in bras it happens to be that CH officially starts in bras start in babak also give a shout to Don F just for being so awesome can't wait for next shabat this time I'll bring my kids oh no no no this is not funny Yoni clar was the person that we learned for we did him all sorts of things he's a 52y old actually was 51 I believe when he got a stroke and um he was nied just a few days ago Mark ashkanazi went to his house and on the refrigerator he had these two famous charts of Trum and Tuma they're slightly upgraded these days but I thought it was fascinating that a person in a place that you put the pictures of your children and and and the grand all this stuff here it is he wants to remember trus and tar and underneath it says the asku you know the the saw and all that thing he has it in in a yellow note I noticed also is very proud of him as he was in a coma or not responsive and then a little bit more responsive they were playing the shear over and over that's what they wanted to play should have should the sponsor for the unity of the the mother of worldwide Grand also known asman celebrating two gaki years learning with the rebell since gim two years already who had or having brain surgery of the month that come from supporting I want to tell you something real quickly look what I found I couldn't believe this this is a bakama art scroll gamar in the house over here this is mine you open it up open it up and this is ripped out it's put back in then you go to this one right over here the K are ripped out and there's a fold and it reminded me that just two cycles ago 15 years ago I was in Florida with my children in Disney World I said to myself I'm going to be standing in line over there for hours let's learn something when I slep a whole gamar I ripped this out I'm not recommending it to anybody but I it brought back memories and actually tears I ripped it out put it in my in my pocket like this and when I when I had some time I went through the do online why not today we have apps we have we have phones we didn't have that back then 15 years ago have to bring someone to the dot you get a small one yes you going to slep it in in in Disney World but it's guess what it's I'm two days off I couldn't believe it two days off anyway thought I would share that here we go we are today's we're holding where we need to hold and the mishna says that if your bull causes damage to another animal that which is a confusing term means that you're not allowed to use something that's owned by the bdash and if you do you have to bring a carbon you have to add a you're Potter if your animal does damage to something that's owned by so what's just say it's owned by a head you're not owned by a private citizen you're what's want to tell us that perhaps there is a case where you're where it's there's no on so let me see if I could find here here here's a new chart that put together for us Kum there's two categories when when you bring a carbon I know a lot of people didn't learn kach and get all nervous when we talk about caranas but it's very very simple and we have to learn anyways is coming any day the main like they're they're the highest level you can't redeem them they have very high then's a bunch of lower categories and here's the whole list of the lower categories the whole category of as you see five types of a lot of people don't know that on you have to bring not just the carbon PES you have to bring three carbas some of them are right here in the list shim people don't know that you come to what are you gon to bring M comes you have to bring a checkbook or a credit card not just for one carbon you have to bring three carbonet per person or whatever okay now carbon too we're going to discussed today carbon TAA is what happens if a person something extraordinary happened to him he was saved from a car accident from from a disease he went over the ocean he has to bring today we see in those days they would bring a carbon that comes together with bread carb we're going to discuss for a second we spoke yesterday great so says the G one of these guys if you damage it since there's no M you don't if you use one of these animals you don't have to bring extra carbon and and pay 25% all that stuff but you have to pay for it it's different than if you damaged a and an in this case that's why he uses an interesting since there's no you are okay goof four lines from the top so we had this P yesterday here's the the PK says that it's owned by hasem and then says a second later it's your friend so that's where we got this idea that it's something between it's not 100% your friends it's not 100% hem hasem would be here we got an in between thing what is it it's one of these they're considered his property and therefore what if you damage a private person's property explains he quantifies it he says no no no no if we go to this list it's only the top part it's only the SCH doesn't include the all that stuff so remember these two things we have two sheas here he's talking about it adds a he says no it only comes to exclude we're gonna see now let's talk about the first part comes to include says what said that it's your own private money it's it's your property it's talking about also but not a so rash says what's right is when you have animals the first born is a and the first born you have to give to just like a human being you have to redeem it you have to give the five C to the firstborn animal you have to give to a completely to the K but in if it's in it's so now we're talking about is different okay now it's just cool because a lot of you haven't learned King with us so just go through some of these Concepts come familiar with them here's if you look you you see the Cen resting his body weight on the animal's head that's called is the Cen he pours he's on top over here's a picture of on top of the M he pours in English it's called libation he takes wine and he pours it into the drain over there I don't have it but basically you take the chest of the animal the four-leg ofal you lift it you do a whole like we do with a little of different directions ask how could it be which you go through all these different things it just shows you how Kish it is it's a real serious carbon you have and nevertheless you're telling me that it's considered the property of the owner there's no there's no there's no so certainly should be considered your property and therefore what if somebody damages your property your B he should be liable [Music] we're talking about the 10th animal every 10 animals you have to give to the C you have to it's Myer actually you bring it whatever so here's the thing here's Myer real quickly every he has to count one two three and then when he gets all the way to number 10 what does he do RAB you remember Spritz what is it called bam you gave him a red dot and that becomes Myer besides Myer you don't have to pay if you damage him it says by you cannot redeem a 62 people live on YouTube I think and how many on Zoom I don't know okay all 62 people so there's a interesting mus that when it comes to even if it has a mum and you could eat it how what 28 all right cool 64 now beautiful so almost reaching numbers like Israel this's an interesting that even if you have a that has a a you cannot bring on the theck it and eat it but he has to treat it with proper respect can't weigh it and you can't sell it in a butcher shop you can't it's called it's not and it's not Nish that's what it's called basically it shows that you can't redeem it meaning that it still you have to treat it with respect so you can't redeem it completely however it's sold if has no you could sell when it's alive not when it's because then it's already has and if it has a then you could sell it even if it's slaughtered anded however that's you cannot redeem it and you cannot sell it it's different than a you can't sell it oh if you can't sell it what does that indicate us you can't sell something what does that mean that means it's not yours it's not yours if if you own something you could sell it if you can't sell it if you're limited in what you could do with it that proves that's not yours great okay so the over here R just says it doesn't go on the first line that he says we're adding schl it goes on the second line that we're going to exclude he he said he limited it to and this whole that we had he just says it on the last line what benaz says I'm limiting what do you mean limiting only if you damage it you're has the moment it's born nevertheless you consider it property of the owner an animal that was born as a regular animal and the owner decided to bring it Aslam certainly should be considered the owners and if you damage it you should pay the owner you're right it comes to exclude same words free you see that more less ownership than and therefore it's not considered yours he he said there's nothing else you can't add you can't add anything he said mean only interesting that the gar twice says two that are very similar two ideas that are similar over here we have bomb question okay you're right so forget what you said and then a second later the does the same thing completely different thing so if we go back to the question how do we start the it says in the if you have an animal that you cannot be over and you damage it then you are just say if it's a private animal what's the say have yeah that's exactly what we mean we mean private animal meaning he argues on what we just said he argues and he says that if it's that old category of the lighter that are called Kum you would be Potter until now we said that if you damage AUM like a like schl You' be because he has ownership no says anything that resembles this thing of is Potter listen but the the whole question was Why didn't it just say a simple word ed why are you giving me this whole again another bom and according to like the rush retracted because it was a good like so what was the not exactly sure okay so let's see if I could get there without here here we go over here we have a goat I'm going to see this goat in 3D actually soon this is a TAA okay so the way he did a great job here Yoshi I'm really proud of him it goes like this this goat has imur has different parts of the this is by the way this is not accurate this is just for demonstration purposes only okay yeah that are on the the CL fine different different things you take the kidneys you take this whole all these things and that's the IM you have to put on the okay how much are these IM whatever they have a certain value they have a certain weight great here go go so now we separate the animal the actual meat the steak whatever you want to call the the lamb chops the go chops and the imur we'll do about P so the gar says check this out unbelievable this goat went ahead and damaged somebody yeah he caused damage and the is we have to know the is that a only pays remember that that an animal that caus damage three times or less the only thing that the owner is liable is whatever that animal is worth and half of that is a time half of that okay so the animal's worth 200 we take 100 let's say they caused $1,000 damage let's say he caused $1,000 damage only from the yeah if yeah okay the let's see in a second check this out he caused he's worth 200 and he's only he did Nez of 200 how much is he 100 yeah his is 100 the animal the busers were 150 and the are worth 50 total 200 Ellie see this he only pays 75 half of what he's worth the comes out of half of him why because we look at him and we say the other 25 you have to divide the animal there's a partnership here between the human being and AEM so to speak there a this animal has 150 that's owned by the the Adam the person and 50 that goes in so since he's he owes a 100 we're only going to take 75 off of his body and the rest the guy loses instead of 100 out of the 150 you hear what's going on here no let's see it inside when theum cause damage then we only take the money that's owed from the meat that you're that's edible to theum right the owner could eat all all the owner eats even but you cannot collect money from the value of the [Music] say what's of course he can't take money out of there says no that's what we just explained they cannot you cannot use the 150 for everything you can't take the 100 out of the 150 you have to spread it out on the whole animal and therefore 75 is liable 25 is not liable for there was a a story with the there was a guy that was giving bras and bar owner you know about this maybe I even said it I said it once I remember saying it actually love this guy that a simple yid giving bras and supposedly all his bras I don't know all all is a little bit of a gzma but he he had good bras not of want to know why how's it working like that so he went and he followed him ker he said he went over to me said listen I noticed that when you do business by the cashier register you put some here and some there what's going on so he said I'll tell you my wife told me that I need a partner so I said okay I'm going to get a partner then I thought about it I said Hashem should be my partner so a dollar that I make I give half to Hashem half to myself and that's how I do business from then on he's my partner and I made a deal with him I'll take care of you you take care of me so after said oh guy like that that is partners and he gives so much 50% not the the the 10 20% 50% is do so when he asks his partner for something Hashem so no just remind me over here because over here you have a partnership with Hashem you have an animal you own some of it and hasm owns some of it to the point where you can't even collect from that that part that's owned by all right so I didn't really get I wanted a chart for this but I think it's simple enough we could figure this out if an animal think about this thing you have a yeah you have a pit you're not supposed to put a put there there's an animal that's peeking into the pit he's looking into the pit comes other animal gives him a little push who's the bar or the animal no what do you guys say you're a lawyer what would you say you're the Shila there's an animal on the on the edge of a pit comes another animal pushes that animal in he's basically what is he he's a Karen he's yeah he did damage but without the bar there wouldn't be damaged okay the the the answer is that the main culprit here is the Shar right but the bar is a secondary damager so we have a here so it says like this what you're telling me it's very interesting saying that don't take damages from the part that's owned by Hashem take it all from the private citizen but I can take from Hashem so maybe I should go to you maybe you should be liable for everything and in fact it's similar to this Shiloh over here with this pit and and an animal why this case of a according to raban then the owner of the the axe has to pay for everything but if the owner of the axe if the axe is a he only pays half so what about the other half the owner of the axe is only liable for half could I go after the other half from the owner of the pit say no but says yes not only that says the owner of the pit has to pay three quarters versus a quarter why because the owner the guy is a Tom so he only has to pay half but he's only liable for half to begin with because there's two people involved there there's the pit owner and the ax owner so each one has to pay 50% but take that 50% and split in half because he's a so he only has to pay 25% so for the other 75% you go after the pit owner says so so in our case also you can't go after you can't go after the owner of the of the [Music] carbon again in bakama I have to stretch it a little bit there's a guy there's a marshall I said a similar Marshall recently there was the king son wanted to go the prince wanted to go on a on a hunting trip so he goes you know with the some of the king's most important people they go they go out into the forest to hunt and the King's son falls into a pit so they jump into the pit after him he's injured and they start helping this and they can't climb out of the pit they wait there until the king himself he's supposed to show up King comes out so they tell the king say send us some medicine give us some water the king says them let's send them medicine send a crane to extract you that's that's what you asking for the wrong thing us a lot of times here we're in gas such crazy gas anti-Semitism everywhere and what are we asking hem Hashem stop the anti-semites kill the no get us out of this gas bring mesiah we're asking for the wrong thing so says the that's according to according to who says if you can't go after the main guy go after the secondary guy right so the main guy only has to pay 25% whatever the is I said thein figure it out the the secondary guy unfortunately he's liable for 75% because the bar there's no time by a bar okay so we also go after Hashem so to speak or go after the sorry go after the the human being that owns 150 in this animal we could we could do it any way we want we could say it goes ACC you can't go after the other guy when there's two different partners here there's a there's a bar and there's a like at the end of the day the the the whatever you want to call it also were part of the damage so but if you can't go after that go after the part that you could take from and say no you can't I found your sh in a pit whatever I can't get from this part I get from the other part over here it's one of the same it was one animal and theur did damage just like the Nur but you can't go after theur so that's it at the end of the day this REM it just reminded me just as I was reading it because I'm in real estate so I'll share with you I know somebody in this is like bad me this I want to go I want to take from here take from there just remind me of this thing that I know a guy who lost a a massive deal because he was he wanted the price to be a certain thing he was going to get the same amount of money but he wanted in the document to say a certain price what he made himself sugar it was like a GAA thing people have this ego and even in business I I witnessed this I saw him lose a lot of money from ego from ego thing just he wanted that the price should be like this it should say a higher number and the guy said I'm going to give you for my commission under the table you're going to get to say no I needed to be a higher ker done deal guy that I know I'm friendly friends with a guy different guy who for bad Midas M bad Midas he said in he's Israeli he said in in Hebrew I don't even want to say the word in English Fri means whatever I don't want to be like a loser okay say it in a nice way I don't want to be like a loser for that one statement m he lost I would want to say like $7 million his marriage and he doesn't talk to his kids because he didn't want to be because it's true somebody got him good in business and he was able to make a big part of it back big like four or five b no but I don't want to be a frier so he got zero divorced he's in the process of losing I'm from Bad Midas and there's one last thing that we had a RAB Yakov son in my house used to give shum every so he said a good line he said when somebody says on principle what he's really saying is my bad Midas that's that's what unprincipled when someone says I'm not giving in unprincipled that means my bad Midas fine just thought about it over here taking from this guy taking from this part fine you know what I'll just throw in a one nice thing last week he said that there was a guy Ina who didn't have children and this is like the opposite story of this the opposite of bad me this guy didn't have children and he came and he asked what should he do what should he do many years married he said you know what the famous thing says you D just for your friend that doesn't have children and he called him the friend he said and you D just for this guy break your your tea break your Midas ding for somebody with all your heart I know it's a little bit of like um a guy that gives kind of thing because you know that you're really ding for your friend because you want hasm to but at the end of the day you're breaking your IM you're diving for somebody else you're not diving for yourself you do and sure enough and it's gonna be in my book nine months and a day later no a year later they had a child and all right listen to this I got got to show you this clip and I'm going to ask do if they understand okay this is one of the we just started something new we do a lot of drawings now we're doing 3D animation just started this m and it's it's literally in its infancy this took over 12 hours for 20 seconds I'm going to show it to you tell me what you think you saw here because obviously I need to explain but tell me what you saw here we go great oh did do it okay here first of all this is this is this is Yoshi this is not our 3D animator this is a sh on the side of a pit and it got thrown in okay okay I didn't see it before yeah you skipped it because it was out of maybe maybe maybe still ahead okay here we go yeah you know it is over there correct it's all the way here all right I'm not telling you what happened tell me tell me what you think happened there here we go it actually has sound I don't know if that all right well what happened anybody Crasher something okay plane crashed then what happened there's a little bit of something's missing you saw the goat what did it say on the goat what does that mean oh why he survived the crash he survived the crash ah that guy survived the crash so he had to bring a carbon tid and his carbon TAA went ahead and damaged an ax that's the story okay there's a little piece missing over there fine with explanation hopefully anyways that's to TOA means you survived a crash I know a guy very well was actually friendly with him bronstein from Chicago he was on United I forgot what it was Sous City Iowa the plane crashed and 80 people died and he was saved what cornfield yeah in the cornfield so went through he told me the whole Misa like a bunch of times different Nim and crazy stuff but he switched his seat and the guy that was in his seat did die you know like every like you know that in the last week two people came over to me here in Miami and said that they were supposed to be in Surf Side but one guy his air conditioning went out and he rented an apartment somewhere and he wasn't another guy said I'm not official told me his brother-in-law he was in Surf Side in the but his daughter wanted food so went to a restaurant I don't know it always happens that everybody was supposed to be in the building there supposed to be thous tens of thousands of people in the building and they all I'm not making fun of those people could be if you believe it you're sh if you don't believe it you're Aus okay fine next that guy was really on the plane how did it get so late we have to finish here already okay if a damage somebody else ax like you saw over there or whatever if you notice I'll show you again no I'm not going to show you this movie again but anyways that kid was holding a basket and the basket had matah and bread in it because he brought when you bring a carbon to if to bring 40 breads why do you bring 40 breads because it's impossible for them go to the co it's impossible to eat 36 breads by yourself so you have to invite your friends and they eat the meat and the bread and then they ask you what happened and you tell them I was in a plane crash and I was saved okay so says thear if the goat damaged an axe a bull you you take from the Goof of the animal that we said and not from the bread what is the bread the bread didn't do damage why should you be able to take from the bread sa you're right May the guy that was damaged his bull was damaged he gets all the meat the guy that's looking that was on the plane crash gets zero meat but he has to bring the bread of course he has to bring the bread I would think that the bread is there and without the bread there's no carbon it's one and the same you're going to eat the good meat then I'm going to eat bread carbs no it is your own it's separate and you bring it and you eat it next says the that if you damage property I'll just say just in case somebody's watching YouTube property of a idol worshipper okay because we had we sent a gor to a guy in Hawaii and he sent in an email and I read his email he said he's not really Affiliated and he's so excited to start talmud blah blah blah the next day I get an email from him he says you guys are horrible people you said that there's a whole shabas that if a wall falls down and I'll call them an idol worshipper then you not you shouldn't be M says how could you say such a thing I'm a firefighter you have to save everybody I'm never doing tal I don't have nothing to do with you guys you guys are crazy so I gotta be careful over here if it comes to exclude uh a worshiper that's so obviously our mission is not going to say the same thing what it is we started off over here but we're gonna explain it in more detail in the later Mna you have to damage private property what do it come if there's a sh who's sure did damage then you don't pay that's also something we learn two bulls yeah it was like in Spain it was the running of the bulls the running of the bulls there's Bulls everywhere and each one says no it's not me it's the other guy did it so again that's what I was saying that twice we say this same question before we said over interesting we we say it here we explain it later interesting line that if you're dealing with he there's no owner then you don't have to pay what are you talking about if the private citizens bull damage he man who's gonna who's gonna collect money who's gonna sue him so the he damaged me Ladi what's the problem grab that animal and it becomes yours another person grabbed it first so you can't go after it what's this I found to be a tremendous my bull went ahead and damaged another person another property and I'm I'm a big I know that he's going to come after my bull I say it's I say it's is that fair no but it works very interesting that it seems like oh you see in the just says it says twice that you have to start being the owner and you have to end being the owner the beginning and end has to be you're the owner so M if this he or Hees in between somewhere then you don't go after the animal you don't pay there some that say they want to be in the r that no one could be if it's he my bull damaged your bull I make my bull halfer nobody could go ahead and and grab it the only person that could grab it is the person that was damaged that's what the it seems like from the Rama but is a good sh what if my bull damaged your bull so I'm a little bit of a Rasha I go and I'm I'm AF the bull as it stands right now you can't you can't collect from that bull then I go and I grab my bull back what do you think that should be you hear what happened it's 100% AF it's out there anybody can it is it right I know what you're talking about you're saying is is it he until somebody else grabs it is a sh like that I think in he but if this there's a level that you still own it okay so let's say it's only by the TBO so I went and I grabbed it I'm allow to anybody you could grab it he could grab so I grabbed it I grabbed it back now could he come and and and claim that he wants to get paid from this animal what's the difference if ruen grabbed it he can't go to ruen for sure just just because I used to be the owner so I should be different so the grow is M and Rashi over here that he cannot come after this animal forever even if I grab it back for myself but the T paskin that he could fine next we have to finish because we're very late somehow with this uh this new animation stuff as you telling me that you don't need a that you don't need to finish theine you're right it goes all the way to the end from beginning to end all the way until after besides it has to be that the damage occurred in somebody else's but if you go if your bull comes into my property and my dog bites your bull you can't come after me what is your animal doing you know in America unfortunately some of the the laws are a little muga some of the people are a little muga and and check this case out I just I went on for a second I'm sure you can find a million other cases in a lesser known case an 18-year-old climbed on a roof in Reading California high school in 1982 to steal to steal a 35 flood light the young man fell 27 feet through the Skylight and his permanently disabled his lawyers obtained $260,000 up front settlement with the school plus $1,500 a month for the rest of the man's life not like our gamar here he went into somebody else's and people have sued for Millions of dollars in Queens somebody broke into someone's house injured his arm when he broke the glass and Su the owner for breaking his arming his arm yeah you certainly can't put a a trap for a gy you can't do any of the stuff and that you do you get sued great sugar anyways but the gor says no that if you come into my R and my animal damages you there's no suing there's no you don't get anything I got I got thanks let's just do few more lines and that's it I don't know if we oh there's some new guys here here it says in the so just the POS just says that it has to be in another not fine so what about what if this is a partnership how do we look at how do we view a partnership is it considered you came into my or perhaps not it's your so one is one says so how do we explain the Mna very interesting so I have to say that if there's a partnership on this piece of property so you are we explain but if it's only the then you great if there's a partnership between the then no you're Potter Karen so these interesting words is is we're going into another topic that what we didn't discuss until now Karen in the first mishna so you should know that if this the the animal used his horns or something that's similar to his horns meaning there's no he he did it deliberate to to to to damage then say that the in the first M doesn't mention Ken but if you remember here this is Karen just for the new guys the guy that woren de B is one of the first animations imagine imagine for children but adults also the whole sh was animated like this be boom okay so that's carrot but according do you remember this chart I like this chart also this is not animated but Accord according to Rav the word Char in the first mishna already includes Karen Shen Regal according to doesn't but according to means so how could you tell me that these words means can't mean Karen can't repeat the same thing twice that the word includes everything comes to include here remember we had the different you have a a guy that watches something for free or he gets paid or somebody that borrows or a renter that the animal the damage in their own so you also have the but if the wall fell down in the middle of the night or the the thieves broken have a wonderful day for coming we'll see you live from Chicago anden