Daf Yomi Avodah Zarah Daf 49 by R' Eli Stefansky

[Music] Good morning boy. >> You jumped the gun see. We got to do it again. Good morning boy. >> Oh thank you Remy too. Klein flew in from New York. I told him that I have to catch a flight which I do. going to rush through the shear basm lucky you guys and he said well I don't care I'm going to fly in just to talk to you for 15 minutes I need to talk to you fine so far little they spoke to me it was allam could have been done on the phone but he says that the famous says that a guy once went to learn to for a for six months and he the the way took six months and he got there what's his what's his name? Anyway, so he he went there for 6 months, learned Ty for one day and turned around, came back. So he says it's worth it. Okay, fine. So we have the bigus of having Yosi Kleiner. I'm in the family house in Miami. Um my granddaughter was swimming here before. Maybe I'll take you around. No, not around, but I'll I'll do a little spin later. um my my company we put this house together back in the day and I used to come here a lot and because I live in and give him I don't come here very often as often as I would like to but that's part of it. Um just a few things. So yesterday had the big of being in Bokeh. I've been in Bokeh before but this time was different. This time Rebecc welcome and the other of I forgot his name already. Thank you. But a large crowd came out there. They say the the organizer, not our guys, the guy that organized put out the seats. He said there was 250 people in the room. Take a look. It was very very nice. I took this video cuz nobody else is taking it. So I might get you once in a while video. [Music] >> Back in the day, we used to go with a video guy all day. So this sadic his name is Isum Friedman or otherwise known as Friedman but he's a Isum Friedman. He lives in Tampa small community. He said about 25 families live there and he drove in from Tampa to Bokeh. He said it took him 4 hours and when the year is over he's going to drive back four hours. He waited in line like everybody else for a long time to speak. I was like, "Hello, you have a 4-hour drive, so maybe you should have." So, I was very impressed. It was very moving. Um, Steve Sel flew in all the way from Baltimore just for this year. So, it was very, very nice to all the people that came. Beautiful. M is beautiful. This is a man that was caught doing the daff in the mountains. All right. Lucky you. We're going to go straight to the sponsors because like I said, I I have to What's that all about? I don't know why that jumped up. The is sponsored by David Solomon. Dedicated in memory of sponsored. May our learning be a shield, a protection, and a source of unity and blessing for Joel Gadalas. My father TCS Israel power by talking in honor of for continued spreader around the world. Thank you Aaron Framan. Appreciate it. Very nice. Thank you. Coffee anonymous in memory of Leo Jame. Daily sponsors David Vandervel and family our mom and our father Michael in honor of my son Yonas he should have and everything Jerry Isaac for the yard of my uncle should have an ali Khan was undergoing a major 9 hour surgery today. Should have lay anonymous. You know, I want to say a shout out. Four Gidim came to the Shir in Bokeh and one of them was in a wheelchair. He was a bach a few years ago. You might recall the story. He was on a hike in Eric and he got a heat stroke and it render him rendered him unconscious and he was in a coma for I don't remember a month or something and he still cannot walk and this is a couple years later and his family goes with him. They go to doctors and take care of him and he watches the sh every day. So shout out to you. I don't remember the names but shout out here. You see the boat going by here. Let me just show if they could see it real quickly. Oh, >> but it cannot >> I don't know. I don't know if you were able to see the boat going by, but if another one goes by, we're not holding in the learning yet. So, I'll you don't say mano elon. Although in this year, we do sometimes. You need to know when we finish the shaft which cruise. Ah, >> which cruise? Uh, those cruise ships don't fit in this little canal over here. Remy, did you see the the ship the the boat going by or I missed it? No one's going to think I made it up. >> Yeah. Yeah, we saw it. >> You did see. Okay. There's a small one. Grab it. Anonymous. Oh, sorry. Anonymous and MDY coffee corner. Anonymous. MD. You put this one in. >> No. Anonymous. You you know who it is. Okay. >> The one that you didn't say his name. >> I don't know. >> Oh, that one. That's not the name you just said. But anyways, >> he's the sponsor for >> I got it. This is a good friend of ours. Okay. Here we go. Not bad. Seven and a half minutes in. We're holding three lines from the bottom of I tell you stands for it also stands for what I am right now which is uh although there's air conditioning in here but it's a little slightly uh a slight uh what's the word I'm looking for >> it's a what do you call it it's um okay sahhat kids are sat Um, so yesterday we were learning the of Yeah. What happens when you have I'm going to keep on looking. So you look for me. If you see a nice boat going by, let me know. Maybe we'll go out later. We'll show the the pool, the water. If two things are affecting something, part of it is part of it is a and a create something. So we had for instance fertilizer that's of a desara shade that's of a desara dirt that's not of a desara that sort of stuff going together into one plant it creates a plant we have a mut and a what's the what's the so to remind you we had a contradiction between and whether or not it seems like is contradicting himself Our Mishna says, "You should not plant these vegetables underneath tree because we're concerned with the fertilization of so according to as we do and everything lines up holds motor but if he holds that was one of them asking how could he hold that if you have two causes to one thing that it's so now we're going to have a couple of different cases of our law is a tree in its first three years. I was surprised to learn that from people on Shabas. I was talking some people here in Florida and they weren't aware of the of law. In fact, later on they went and they checked it. They wanted they they couldn't believe it. Checking on it does apply Israel. But we're makan in America. Okay. So what's that? First three years of a tree. >> Three trees. Looks like olive trees. >> These are these are fake. These trees. These olives here behind me. You could see right over here. Olive, but I think they're kind of fake. So it's a small tree. That would be like a three-year-old tree. Those would be user. And one of the people there said, "Wait a minute. But you can't even eat the fruit anyway. It's not edible. Okay, great. What happens if you take the branch of a tree? Now, the fruit is you're not allowed to benefit from it at all, but the leaves and the branches you're allowed to benefit. So, you're permitted to plant a branch of this arlet tree. And you cannot plant a nut from an arly tree because a nut is like a fruit and there's zero lot of benefit from it. And by you planting, you're benefiting from it. So I said before, just remind me when I said the word not. I said that we don't have a squirrel. But squirrels, they like to take those uh those nuts. What are they called? >> Acorns. >> Acorns. Thank you. They love acorns and they they bury them for the winter. But they have big eyes. is they don't usually eat nearly as much as they bury. And then what happens is those that they bury sometimes they become trees cuz they're already buried. So we had a nace a squirrel showed up here before a few minutes ago. We should check it out. It's gone. >> Send it to dad first. >> Okay. It would be much bigger if he showed up to the door and said hello to us while we're learning. Rav says Rav says that will agree that if you do something like planting or what's so this we had yesterday remember the hik where you take or this is better let's just do this real quickly >> look he takes a branch that's attached to the vine on the left >> and he just throws it in here let me >> ground and allows He's putting the branch into the ground, but the branch is still attached to that big tree over there. >> It's essentially like a replant taking other vine is you take a branch from one tree and you put it into the into a larger tree or a different tree. >> So he says that would be mut. So if you do that, you you take the branch, you put into the ground, that would be mut when the source tree, the tree all the way to the left is 3 years old. But if you do this, you graft. In English, I guess it's called grafting. So it's motor right away. Agrees in these cases that it is motor. Why? Because obviously holds over here. You have a little bit of the a little bit of the other tree. It's mut. So you see why you tell me says you're going to tell me okay is different is very very that's what he says but when it comes to law no is there really a difference here I'll give you another case they have a field that was they use manure The manure was that of a vidor from an animal of a vidor. You have a cow that was fattened with kinim. Here we have remember the video of kinim. So first of all, what's what's zevil? One one step at a time. So, here's a Zevel machine. This produces Zevel. That's Yoshi's sense of humor. Now, this is real Zevel. Unbelievable. You got to take advantage of what you have. If you have manure, you use it. Now, how do they get the this manure into this pit? See, here's give a closeup. Wow. This really could ruin your appetite. It's unbelievable how they did this. They dug it in and they have a special way for the tractor to push it right in and fill up this whole thing. I was in a place where they took this and they covered it and they made electricity from it. Like the the gases caused electricity. That is stuff. Wow. Great. Here's carim. Here's the animals. Real animals eating carum. I showed it once before. So it goes like this. Not to show, >> huh? >> Yeah, I know. That's in a second. So, here we have a little bit of a contradiction. If you have a cow that was fattened by the So, the one place it says you could use the field and you could even eat the meat. You can't you plant anything on the field and the cow you cannot use the cow. You have to make sure that whatever the cow benefited from the aid food she has to go on a diet and she has to lose that weight. So let's say she weighed 100 pounds and you fed her these carim 50 lbs worth of kashim. Now she's weighs 150 lbs. She has to go on a diet and lose 50 lbs and then you could eat her. So we actually have a galica video to show you how that's done. Here we go. She ate harshim so she's nice and bizont. So she has to go on a diet. Oh, [Music] >> good stuff. But this entire thing by the way all these all these steps I like this was my >> wow >> the push-ups the the working out the treadmill fat he whatever >> yeahaldic >> galdic so this is when this we had the other day this is also very very good this is Yoshi 100% Yoshi This is David protecting from the wind. I guess so when we have this contradiction, could you eat the cow? Can you not eat the cow? The question is here you have a cow that became fat from plus other stuff. So or no says we're not gonna we're going away from the ones that we have and therefore you don't have a whether holds these are two different two different what does it mean about the one of yeast this A lot of women today they make sourdough. So we know what yeast is. You take yeast. Everybody knows those who know me they know my wife is a big sourdough woman. So we have here there there are three three options really. If you put yeast introduce yeast to to flour and water this is what's going to happen. Now on the right we have yeast that's also for us to use. It's truma starter. On the left we have represent stansky's starter 100% motor. So one option is that he pours in the mut stuff the after that pours in the user stuff. Now what are the other two options? The user goes in first and the mut goes in second. And what's the third option? They both go in >> together. So here's the other option. Good. Valdic and then this one. Okay, you got that? Now this one together. Okay, so I know you're going to ask, but the other one started a little bit before. Okay, a little bit of a mess up there. Now you have a combination of two items inside the dough. Neither one could make bread and they combined together and they became Here's a question based on what the Gmorra said before. If an animal only eats pig fat for two weeks straight, are you allowed to eat that animal? >> Yes. >> Say yes. Right. But there was a mis I don't remember with who? one of the Rebis who the the priest tried to trick him and he fed his chicken just the fat of a kazer and then he sold the chicken det his wife and the had a nest and he didn't eat from it. So my my shil is exactly what what would be the is based on our gumar doesn't seem to be >> only the one that that didn't eat from it's like one salad that happened >> you're talking about the animal didn't eat no I'm talking about the human being he wants to eat the chicken that was fed she >> I don't know we'll have to see if somebody has a hes they'll send it to me oh it goes by the last on. So it doesn't matter which one fell first. Each one has to be able to if you want the if you want this dough to beer. So then the truma has to have enough power in it to make its own bread. When are you allowed to use this? When you get rid of the truma. But if you don't get rid of the truma and then you pour in the then it's why because so you see this is it says asking the time who told you that we have to go like could have just said simple that the question is which one comes last but he didn't say that he didn't say that which one comes last he said no it has to do with who told Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with whichever is last, that's the one that wins. That's the one that makes it also. If the if the Truma is last, it's also if the is last, it's if you finish off with something that's also it's also if you finish off with something says and it doesn't matter whether like said they have to remove it. You don't have to remove it, says the Gomorra. Who's told you? Okay. So, therefore, we're going to start all over. We're talking about of the wood. What's that? Now, I just remember because we spoke about before. No. Okay. So, we missed it. We missed it. We go back. Now, what's beautiful about this is that we're repeating the whole thing again. And for this is the fourth time he's going to be learning it or the third and is the fourth not. Wow. I have to go. I have to run here. It's crazy. Okay, let's finish. If you took wood off an aer tree and have a desire tree, you're not going to benefit from it. And if you heated up the oven with it, if it's a brand new oven, you need to break it. So Yasi was telling me on now that the one of the guys, one of the plumbers, he was working on a boiler that was boiling hot, but it didn't have any water in it. In order for it to operate normally, it has to have water. So I guess the he didn't realize that there's no water in it. and he turned on the cold water and the boiler exploded, hit him. He went to and the actual boiler ended up on the street, went through a a beam, through a house, through a thing and ended up in the middle of the street. That's how powerful it is. That's uts. What am I looking for? I don't even know. >> Bread. Oh >> yeah. Yeah. The bread guy. Let's see where it is. Oh, it starts. Interesting. Here we go. Boy side, pay attention. Not this. I got to I got to find a way. Remy has to help me with these buttons cuz I keep on double pumping these buttons. Here we go. He took a branch off that sher tree and he's crying now. He's using it to heat up a brand new oven. So the oven is also but he makes a bread out of it. So now that he makes the bread, look at that smoke. Now the bread mixes in with the hundreds of other breads. You got to throw all the breads out. If it's brand new, you have to the the oven has to go. Why? So, this is what I was looking for. There's a rashy here. Where's that rashy? Right over here. By you heating up the oven, you creating an oven. It becomes strong the oven. The first time you use an oven, that's when you break it in, so to speak. You break in an oven. That breaking in makes the oven. Had you break it in with aharo becomes if you baked bread in this oven the bread is also if the bread mixed in with other breads all the breads are also here's the we're talking about take whatever benefit you had from the wood. How do you get this bread from wood? That's no good. Wood. How much does that wood cost? $1. Take $1 of coins and throw it into Here we have a picture. I saw I didn't see this before. >> Y's fine. >> Y's fine. Looks like >> Does it look like yik >> cool? I haven't been there in a long time. I thought it's disappearing. All you see this dirt where the dump truck is on? That used to be a hotel and that's where people used to this. It keeps on receding. Whatever benefit you have throw into which would mean to user. Why do I have to throw it out into because there's a little hano here which is not a complete there's other parts of this that are are no that that wood was also throw that out which we're going to see on base. What do you mean you're going to take money random money out of your pocket money take that money and throw it into but is over there. You didn't do anything with so you want to use this money to redeem it so to speak. There's no redemption on you can't redeem. And who argues on this the case of of of wood that we just said? They also hold here in our case of using the the the starter the the leaven of truma when it comes to when it comes to like truma. But why would they say that which is super they wouldn't be making in that case we're going back we're going back this bra that we said that you're allowed to plant you're allowed to use a field that that was fertilized with a des that was fattened with abador goes according to the it says as if Maser says if we go back to this guy this no he was talking according to you in other words I hold what is he saying in the according to You hold that if you have two causations it becomes won't you agree to me that should apply itself even in the winter why are you making a distinction between the winter and the summer that's all he was saying but he himself holds you I was just asking you shouldn't everything be equal winter summer everything don't agre at the end of the day. Why should it be in the winter? We said yesterday that when you have two things that counterbalance each other, you have the fertilization which is of and you have the shade of a desara. Shade is no good. Fertilization is good. One counter acts the other. They counterbalance each other. It's it's one minus one zero. It's nothing like says there was a garden that they used. So they asked what's the what's we use the fruits that coming out of the vegetables that coming out of this garden. Guess what? We have a little khazar here. But before we do khazar >> turning d >> somebody has to scream. >> Huh? Yeah. Oh screaming new yasi. Adar Global MDY is enjoying the benefit of Micers of Adar's MD of Adar MDY clients. Create more Meers for MDY so Dar can help us all get anonymous. Maybe that was his name. He had two names freedman anonymous says and we could put on a little speed here because I have to catch a flight and because we just learned it on you took wood from an allow benefit from it. If you heated up an oven with it, if it's a brand new oven, you got to break the oven. Why? Because of created oven. And if it's an older oven, you cool it off. Did I say that those words before? I don't remember. If you baked bread in it, you're not allowed to benefit from the bread. If the bread mixed into group A, the whole group A is also you should take all the benefit and throw it out into the Dead Sea. The benefit is not enough. The benefit that you had from the wood. What good is it going to give you if you take $2 that benefit and throw it into the sea? But the the is still here in in your house. Huh? >> Make that's the word you >> Yeah. Like a kesh. Exactly. I do something bad and I give $2 to uh I should have a kapar that works by pion doesn't work by pion. Oh, I heard today that the Beler said, "Why is it that uh opinion that the give is usually small amount of money relatively speaking? $36, $100, $150. Some give more. When you go to makub, you go to this, you have to give a nice amount, $500, $1,000, $10,000. Some people give $2 million." You know, some of the wealthiest people in our Israel today are Makubal, hundreds of millions of dollars. Rabbi Davidid, multi multi-millionaire. Last time I checked, I think it was worth 75 million or something. And the Rabbi Abu Kher, the other one, Rabbi Barak, I think he's worth 400 million. They make the money off people giving them money. So, Bazerov said, I'm not going to not based on the names I just mentioned. He said that they have such a close relationship with so it doesn't take them a lot to get you the but other people out there they need to work hard for it so they have to charge more money for it and now that you ask them and they'll tell you a joke about the okay by the way I have very very good news that um the ngati.com I was insulted by I was insulted at ndy.comm is going very well. People are sending in emails. It's filling up. Yeah. Yeah. Some are jokes, some are real. Hashem has a place to vent and it's galdic. I haven't seen any of them yet. But when I do, I'll let you know. No, no, just told me that it's mish coming in, piling in. Maybe that's why I'm getting less and less emails every day. I'm just kidding. >> I'm getting more and more. It's getting out of hand. Says the uh did I say all this? I need two cases. Two separate cases. One for bread and one for clothing. No, no, no, no. I jumped. I jumped. I jumped. >> No, no, no. Wow. I almost made a big boo boo here. You got to put your finger there. Make sure I don't uh if you take the what is it called in English? You don't have an art scroll over there. Um the weaving something but what is it called that has a name? Oh, pick. Very good. Wow. Thanks, Yoshi. He put it out here. A weaver's pick. In other words, he took a piece of wood off David's tree so they could use it for the weaving purposes. How do you weave? Here you go. I'm so tired. These buttons are sw the weaver that we have. Somebody just gave me one of these and I don't did I leave in the BM I don't know what I did with it. I forgot who gave it to me. He came over to me still and gave it to me. Where was it? Was it in? I don't remember seeing it after that. I put it down. If anybody knows where it is, let me know. It's in there. I just don't know where. It would have been good for today's year, but I anyways I wouldn't have slept for ro but it's good to have >> one short video of a guy actually doing it fast. >> I showed once a video. >> Yeah, actually doing >> uh I should go to one of these places and do it and then we have videos of me doing it. No, I don't want to skip again. Oh, it's >> still in the >> in the saying this thing is in the Okay. >> gave it to your So, it's in the You took the pick off the tree. Benefit from it. You didn't listen. You used this pick that's from It's made out of and you made clothing with it. Benefit from the clothing. you you the the clothing you put it on a shelf and now it got mixed in with other clothing. So let's say you take this piece of clothing and you put it in pile A. Pile A has 10 clothing 10 garments. All 10 become also. Now you take one of the garments from pile A. Now you don't know which one. You put in pile B. The next pile becomes it's like a fake kind of thing. It's not a problem. How much do you benefit from this pick? $3. Take $3, throw it out into the Dead Sea. It doesn't work. You cannot redeem says both cases that of bread and that of clothing and and the pick. If I only say the bread by the time the bread is baked, what happened to the wood that you baked it with? The wood is wood. It's gone from this world. It evaporated. But this pick is still here. Maybe maybe agree that it's not enough to throw the money out into I'm just going to say the case of a pick of the piece of wood that's say it's not enough to throw into because bread the whole fuel is gone from the world and I'll think that maybe you're allowed to use it All you need to do is take money that's equivalent to your benefit and throw it into the take the money, throw it out into all this is talking about a bread. It doesn't help to throw money into when it comes to a barrel. Doesn't work. It doesn't work with a barrel. says, "Just got to make sure nothing nothing going by this whole time." Crazy. You think every five minutes. I was once here in a Shabas with my wife, just me and my wife. And there was the um the yacht show, the Miami Miami yachos and and and people from all over the world came with their yachts and they're just passing by here, Mameish. So on Friday, I was able to look you look at the uh the name, let's say it's called Trump. So you go on Trump yacht and it shows you the inside. It tells you how much money they want for it. Some of them came by here. They had helicopters on top. They have jet skis on top. Crazy. Beautiful. Beautiful stuff. People spend so much money on the zatsuga. 30 million, 50 million, 120 million, 300 million. Give all of it. Oh, you know what? Let me just show the real quick. Take a break. Hold on. Let's see if I can get here. Here. This I don't know if we have to open up the door. Uh oh. So over here. No. If I tangled. I can't really go. Over here is a pool. Not the best shape today. >> A few moments later. >> Okay, let's go back there. That's what happens when you stop in the middle of learning. But we got to make it little because on the way to the airport, you know, oh there's a person who mixed up barrel with all his other barrels. What do you do? He comes to the idea that you take money equivalent to the benefit. So let's say the the the barrel is worth four take four and throw it into the river and I will allow it. What does that mean? So Rashi says not so fast. Says Rashi I'll allow you to benefit not to drink for it. One barrel at a time not all together. One barrel at a time because each one needs a certain to do what? Only to do laundry with it. To give something to drink to the Okay, fine. It's not about you drinking it. It's about you benefiting from it. Says this tree of a you prune it, you trim it. We had the videos yesterday if the editors want to throw it in. Pruning. trimming. If you just remove one branch from even one leaf, the whole tree is out. Why you don't touch your What are you picking stuff off? If you're going to take something off the means you don't care about it anymore, if you shaved off some of the if you did it for the purpose of the to make that zor nicer also. But if you did it for for your own purpose, not for that have a desire mut that means you don't care about you have a desire. What kind of person? Let's say you have a r you're going to go over to him and and peel off some of his head some of his uh pis so you can use it. Obviously you don't care about the person if you did that says what do you do with the sawdust whatever is coming off this is a bottle we have one says one says motor we have to says that the sawdust the pieces is the particles he he shaved off from his own benefit. He that shows that he's did it to beautify to smooth out but the particles that the pieces that come off are but the Jew never has the right to as we know it doesn't matter if you did for your own benefit everything is you cannot You have a piece of broken into 25 pieces. Ra says every piece individually you have to go and be I'm about to why because as going to say soon that the the person is worshiping every piece and piece when it breaks he says oh you broke and he goes and he worships every one of the 25 pieces. So you have to make 25. You only have to be if it breaks at the way it it grows with the normal way. In other words, if let's say you have a tree and leaves fall off the tree, that's when you have to be says, why do you have to be that's the way that's that's what happens. That's normal for it. You don't have to you don't have to be inval if it broke off the way it typically grows. In other words, when a desire breaks by itself, it falls off the table and breaks. Then you don't have to be in battle. Why? Because then the owner says, "What kind of a desire it is? It can't even take care of itself. Why should I believe that it could take care of me? That's as far we said throughout the whole peric. But if it falls off the tree, then you have to be because nobody's normal for it to fall off the tree. A leaf falls off. perhaps says whether or not people worship broken pieces or not. Everybody holds that you worship pieces and therefore what you should have to be invited to each and every piece. We're talking about the pieces of the piece that it broke into a piece and that piece broke again. The second time it broke, whether or not you have to that second break, the remains even though the broken piece broke again. No, since the piece broke a second time, or you could say, no, everybody holds that the second time it breaks, it's we're talking about a special something like this. Yeah, like a Lego, like a a that that has pieces to it. And what happened was it broke, but any could put it back together. Since you don't need a professional to put it back together, anybody can put it back together. That's not considered a that's not considered nullifying it doesn't need a BL unless it broke the way it grows. In other words, same thing I said before you don't need a BL if it broke by itself. You need a BL if it broke the way it typically breaks which is a leaf falling off a tree. That leaf needs a special B. That's the way it typically falls. But this particular that's not the way it grows. That's not the way it falls. Typically, it doesn't fall. And this guy fell and broke. You don't need to be it's by itself because that's not the way it typically happens. Since it broke by itself, we have the Torah before that it can't take care of itself. How's he going to take care of me? Maybe the Hebrew editor could take it from here. I don't think I said in in the Hebrew. 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