CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 97 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] [screaming] on the bottom of we're discussing the to wash out the pot that you cook a a carbon inv. Yes, typically speaking, you have to wash it out after it becomes you wash it out. But not on the it's one all the days of are once you wash it after is over. [clears throat] So thear is going to explain what that means. Is inside is on the outside. That's how you wash out the pattern the md inside and outside. So this already is is touching upon rebiha is with cold water. How do we how do we do how do we um casher a skewer and the or the grill the great of the grill. How do we cash her? >> Huh? >> Lebon libon. So let's see what the mission says skewer the grilled the great all you have to do is put in hot water that's less than what we do today usually you need a boila you have to use a torch make it nice red white whatever the color is no they take it put it in hot water says my time retirement. Why does retirement say that you don't have to watch it until the end of you don't have to watch the path after you go back home? There are people who live out of the they can't hear the just in case we got to talk about it once in a while. Means that you're allowed to go 2,000 from your house in every direction. But let's say you have to go 4,000 to one direction. So what you do is you put a bread, let's say 2,000 from your house and then that bread turns into your house and then from there you go another 2,000. So [snorts] the bread becomes the center. You can go 2,000 to this direction and 2,000 to that direction. Therefore, you can't go into your backyard in your house. There's a red line cuz you can't go two more than 2,000 in any direction. But your direction starts from that bread. Anyways, that's stop throwing it in here. Why not? Says there's people that live out of the they can't get home. So obviously he's talking about after is over. Okay. So after is over it's one morning. The entire is one morning. You tell me the entire face. You have seven days that if you thought that you're going to eat this carbon in 4 days from now while you'reing it. What is that called? That's called pigle. But since the entire is considered one day so there's no pigle for the entire you can't think 4 days 5 days out to make it pigle. There's no you left it overnight doesn't turn into why because there's no overnight. It's considered one day. says it's one when it comes to cleaning the pot that's it not for so what's the reason that retirement says you don't have to wash the pot until after is over since there's many brought there's many so every time you put a new schlamim into the path it takes out all the all the tra all the noiser so to or whatever. It's almost going to be noiser. Takes out all the almost noiser out of the pot. No, no, don't worry about it. Next time you heat up the pot, you just had noer from a few hours ago. Takes it out. Whatever you put in now, the second one comes out by the third batch and the fourth batch. There's so many you don't have to worry about it until after what I said in the what's going on here. So over here if you have a pencil maybe to write in the means until after you wait. So Ari asked me the other day. I didn't learn this yet. I asked him what's when do you wash it? Could you watch it whenever you feel like right when the pot is? No, you have to wait until you wait until it becomes if it was out of the pot will be. So the whatever the pot absorbed becomes then you wash it. Not immedately. How do we know this of washing the asks? Why are these two so next to each other? [clears throat] Interesting. This idea of rinsing the pot has to do with has to do with the eating. You wait until after You have to rinse the inside the ma inside like like the you do the benching on and also like the benching like the rebi says we see at the end of the mission last words should be is with cold is really like and you do the with cold water where come up with their what happened by let's see we have the puzzle here somewhere called captured. So any of that that was brought in the fire the way to make it is through fire says I wasn't arguing in the part there's a and after you do that water you have to still do you have to rinse the inside and the outside and that I said should be with cold why is to start changing the language. If both of them are cold, Mik and Shiva are both cold. See, she uses a different language. Seems like they're different in the in terms of the temperature also. No, when you wash the inside, it's with hot, the outside is cold. you know tra or tra maybe if it said then this makes a lot of sense like what's the if it said twice I would think you have to wash the inside twice and the outside twice or the outside twice one of not the outside and the inside just one of them you have to wash twice the inside or the outside one is the inside one is the outside end of the day it doesn't seem like it's hard to understand what the real is between Rebi and it looks like they're both they both agree there's a they both agree that there's cold water and some say that maybe they're not even arguing they're just arguing where they learn it from so says the mission guy's making he takes meat from the and he puts in there two cases either he takes a carbon together with mundane uh food or they're both kesh but one has a high one is kicum like a and one is a k like a he and he put them in the same pot in the ch he put a little bit of flanking from the the kach kachum and then a little bit of what else did he put in there in the ch some other type of meat from the k So don't don't get traumi over here. We're not going into any you know deep sugis of of this just means if you can taste the flavor. If in your ch you can taste the carbon you can taste the meat in your ch even though you have a lot of potatoes then you have to treat the entire ch like like a let's say meaning you can only eat the ch for one day you can't eat it outside of the bdosh. You got to treat it with respect of the the more of the two. So this seems like a contradiction. The gar is going to say it is a contradiction and it actually is a whole. It says if you could taste the flavor of one of them, we have to treat it as that whatever you're tasting. So if you taste the you treat the whole like then it says which means you don't have to is going to explain it. You don't have to wash the pot like a you just wash it like a but why I could taste the here. So shouldn't I wash it that day? Why would I wait two days to wash it? And whatever it touches doesn't become like like why not? It is. So in fact the is going to tell us I just I'm pointing it out here so it doesn't seem so foreign is talking about another different case. It's a you have to insert a couple words right over here right before the it's a different case. Next case, you have two breads. You see the middle the middle ones that look like lafas like pas that's so one that was kasher touch one that's ple there's bas there's absorption from one to the other >> their hat correct a puzle touched a and a piece of meat hat meat touched another piece of meat one is kosher one is posing look at is a not all the pas not the entire pith has to go out. You you just cut off a piece of not all the meat and only one finger breath this width of the pitha you have to cut off nicely that's possible that got absorption from the puzzle so that you get rid of but not the entire pitha it's not like electric it's not It's not like uh what's a good like oh tuma would spread to the whole pitha. No what touch that's it that's my doesn't doesn't seem like a contradiction. What's a contradiction? It says in the Mishna that if you have two items in one pot and you could taste the the the item that's so we have to treat the entire path like that item. And then it says you don't even have to wash it like that item. Why not? If you could taste it, then you have to treat it like the then you should have to wash it like and the puzzle will make the puzzle also. If you can't taste it, so then you don't have to treat it like says, "You're right that the don't need to be washed." Oh, that's it. Fine. Um, oh, I messed up over here. My [clears throat] answers. The mission is telling us two different again. Number one is in the talks about two it mentions only that there's a flavor and for that you have to know that if there's flavor of the what happens you treat it like a for everything for washing for getting rid of then there's another if it's missing these words meaning it's not missing these words right every time we learn I have to explain it again it means that Those who know how to learn, they get it. It's it's obvious. It's in there. But they they they try to save words. It's easier to remember. If you can't taste the flavor, then then nothing zero. Then you don't treat it like a and if you don't treat it like you don't have to you don't have to wash it like and doesn't pass. Ask the question. So I explained it in the Mishna. The Mishna says you don't have to wash it. Why don't you have to wash it? But you have two items in this pot. You have a kachum. You have to wash a pot if it's kum also. So why does the say if you have two items you don't even have to wash the pot. Okay. Don't wash it on the first day like a but wash it on the second day like you're right. When it says you don't have to wash it, it means you don't have to wash it the first day. You don't have to wash it the second day like a like aim. This goes for for the you in fact don't have to wash it. You only have to wash it for when it comes to raba. I understand why he brings us two cases. One case was that you cooked a carbon together within the second case was you cooked. I want to tell you that that there's no when it comes to but how does explain why the mentions two cases say when you put it's two different types of food one is one is that kum They're both you have one is one is but they're both I would think that it's not if I have two I have both of these I would say that because they're both the same so one could overcome the other one could overcome the other name But doesn't have the power to overcome. It's could overpower but not you have bread that touches bread touches. It says anic touching causes. So I think even if it doesn't absorb has to be inside the meat let's say touches a little bit and it absorbs a little bit. You think that the entire thing becomes ple like like no whatever touched and that's it. What it touched okay there's a little bit of a contradiction. So what you do is like we discussed the Mishna you take one finger breath and you cut that down and that's it. It says in the borrow these are what do all these things have in common? They're not edible. The senuse, the bone, the horn, the hoof says in the it becomes like it. The puzzle. If puzzle touches another piece of meat, both of them are puzzle. And if two pieces of meat, one is one kum. They touch each other. The kaching kum has to yet treat it like ask the a very interesting question. I myself need help here understanding the question. I didn't get 100% clarity here. We have an Oh, I wanted to show you the Okay, but you'll understand the tell us here. Here's one. There's a mitz to eat say so we have a problem here. You have this mixture of food, right? So, what's bothering what's bothering me? Well, forget what's bothering me. Let's say what the GMR is bothering the Gumar because then you have food that food that's puzzle touch food that's kosher. We're saying you can't eat this kosher food. Wait a minute. The Tyra says you should eat but doesn't also say you should eat you shouldn't eat pigle pickles also. How could the say don't eat? There's a to eat carbon. So obviously this is different. Why? Because when you have the whole piece is pled it's a piece of pigle. That's what the Torah says. There's an enforce don't eat. This whole piece is to don't eat it. But over here you have a piece that's it touched another piece that's possible. The word is asking that maybe for whatever reason that piece now has a mixture of tum and in it and [clears throat] of eating should overcome the anything that has to do with we don't say this concept that the positive overcomes the negative there's a mitzvah to eat carbon pes but you have to make sure not to break any bones now in the bone you have the marrow the bone marrow a lot of people like it a lot they break it open and they eat inside so why shouldn't you be able break it open to get to the food which is also meant to eat everything from the >> What are you doing? How will I eat the marrow? >> Okay, there are bones that have marrow. bones that don't have marrow of eating the carbon of breaking bones is considered in other words anything has to do with there's no concept of there's another there's another word that says that the the we're talking about let's say that that absorb the comes So now we have another essay on top of everything on top of the essay. So you have an on the one hand you have a essay and an essay and on the other hand you only have one essay. One essay cannot beat out another essay plus I should said a little different for coming. >> [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor [music] atmop.com.