CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 9 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Last line similar to the question that we asked earlier. We're discussing if you have a carbon pes let's before pes let's say a month before pes like I showed the video of the guy going to the mikdash on he thought he has to bring his carbon pes then soar learns no matter what if you think that it's the you think that it's whatever you think it is it's going to flip into ask the why say if you took this car and you turned it into let's say you said it's a a why does it turn into What are you trying to do? So, we're going to go step by step, but let's say he took a carbon p said it should be that doesn't work. So, here's the question. Let me just show you this list for a second. Why not show it to you anyways in a minute? We're talking about carbon pes. He had in mind one of these carbonas over here turns automatically into asking about why whatever you think of that's what it should be. You thought it's a on the right side let it be on the right side. No top of what you we're talking about obviously you're supposed to eat it now. You're supposed to eat it. You're not supposed to leave over one little one crumb. You can't make a current says I don't get it. Even you get to eat a little bit of it. Part of it goes on. Part of it goes to answer your radical can eat it. can't you cannot take which not everybody could eat. I rather make it into where everybody could eat it. Oh is on the list on the left. You cannot take a a carbon pes which is also on the left and make it into from the list on the right which is the severe the heavy duty carbonas. These are serious carbonas can only eat them in the mikdash etc. A lot of alas that are very you can only eat a one one night one day. The other ones are lighter. The ones on the right are heavy weights. So you cannot you can't mix the two. is a lightweight. Lightweight does not become a heavyweight. Great. Very interesting name. So now we're going to go through basically almost entire list on the right. Very good. I accept. You got me. You cannot make a because that's what making iter. So we're going to start from the bottom, work our way up. What's micer? Micer is a person has a bunch of new newborn animals. He puts them in a pen and he counts them as they come out. When it gets to number 10, we have a very interesting number 10. I didn't pay attention. I wasn't going to watch the whole thing, but during the year she also number 10 came out. Very funny. Not exactly sure. Guess it's part of a it's an elephant. I don't know what it is. Elephant sheep. Great. Back in the day. So this guy has a carbon pesh. He says himself. I want this carbon pes to be the 10th micer. Is it the 10th? No. I wanted to be that. Okay. So you took your your pes and you made it into a micer. No. So So what did you accomplish? Nothing. to say. So what's the difference? There is a difference. So what's the difference? It's interesting how the injects like these little here there. Hopefully we get a much better understanding of when Msiah comes what we're going to do with these carbanas. Schlamim, you need to bring wine with it. We learned the other day. Schlamim is a zah. It's an aa. It's a sheep. It's also a cow. Remember we learned in ration you start repeating this that maybe we'll get a better muslam. You have to bring wine. No wine. If you try to sell it over here means to sell. If you're going to try to sell it to somebody, you sell it, you're gonna get malus not says, "Your carbon cannot become a micer. Only this one is messer, nothing else." Ask, "Okay, great. You got rid of the one on the bottom." What if he took this and said, "I want this to bear." Super interesting. It's not a bar. It's the fifth one. He his mother had five other ones before. No, I wanted to have the the same idea of a again. If it's a you don't have to bring wine. If it's you don't get to eat it like you have to give to the says I have a says and by it says so now I learn from so we just established that does not apply to so too doesn't apply to carbon says I think this is super fascinating to me what's tumor we've been learning about tumor over and over here and there everybody in MDY knows tumor number one thing what is it I I designated this animal as a carbon then I found a fatter better carbon I said this is not the the carbon anymore this is the new carbon transfer the duch so has both of them are over is not doing that over has one carbon I want it to be I want it to be the the of it should be like a should be like tomorrow. What did he accomplish? He's going to get malus for it cuz it says don't do tomorrow. You can't sell it. You can't redeem it. It says in the par you can't do it on a carbon pace. It doesn't work on a carbon b. So what do we have left in the list here? We're not going to address Nazer. We're going to go to the last one called He took a P before PES comes along and he says to himself, I wanted to be a carbon. H the guy he came off a airplane. He he came off the river. He came out of jail. He's saying I want this. I don't have money right now. I want this carbon to be my carbon. So he said it now you're gonna have to bring 40 loaves of bread with that carbon. You brought this as a you don't bring 40 breads and if you mess up and you do you bring it early so you're going to have to bring 40 breads. Is it possible that what what is it now? We said a current pays off that you do any other carbon what does it become? >> Anybody needs wine? So how's that possible? If there's a carbon basil, there's no wine. Now you need wine. So says he can borrow. Uh yeah, sorry. But how can you all of a sudden add wine to carbon where before you didn't need it says this is what I meant when a gets lost. Yeah. So this we have over and over this idea any carbon that gets lost and you replace it. So let's talk about a carbon. You had a carbon t you're going to bring it to the and it ran away. So you go ahead and you buy another carbon tida and then you find you sh the the second one and then you find the first one. What do you do the second one doesn't require bread. You bring another carbon but you don't bring bread with it. The first one bread second one not says that's the question. The replacement of the original doesn't require bread. But the replacement meaning the switched into does require bread. Impossible. And therefore cannot turn into a where did you get this whole it says in the and we decided means a carbon that use a flack of sheep which is a carbon pes guess what there's another carbon that it could be maybe talking about asham you had a that you decided to turn into something else which you also bring from the from It's a flack of sheep and then what? So if you turn to something else, it automatically should turn into just like you just said by if by you try to do it you try to make a carbon turn into turn you could use a goat and a sheep but you can't use goats only sheep. So it's not in the flock. It's not all over you say that the word min in the comes to exclude stuff. So Rashi says I'll give you a bunch of examples. He says from means he can't use an animal that was done to it or if somebody did to the animal comes to somebody what's an animal somebody said this is designated as anara that doesn't work can't use that as a carbon in other words. It's a It's a It's a It's a what I said before, what was the word I used? It's a limitation. And over here all of a sudden using it. No, no. Over here we're also using it as uh limitation. That carbon cannot be older than 2 years old. And it cannot be a female. It must be a male under two years old. This is talking about the starts off with a sheep and a goat. We know already that a carbon p is a is a is a sheep is a goat. So why is it repeated? Obviously we're not talking about the we need these for something else. Look at this here. You you should be mac of this part. So Rabbi Weissfish sent me this. You see the right and the left, the two different animals. They're hanging on their legs. That's the tail of a sheep on the right. And the one on the left is the tail of a goat. says comes to include the the tail as well that you have to take the aliyah and put it on the misb says that it includes other stuff not just that part includes all the way down you cut it down to the to the to the kidney. Okay. Excuse me. Comes to include a carbon pes that's already more than 2 years old. And anytime a carbon pes turns into it, you have to do all the what? You have to lean on it with all your weight. We have to bring that's there's another it stops. You don't have to put the tail of the goat on the says are you telling me that when you have a carbon p you switch into something you try to switch into another carbon. In other words, oh no, we're talking about now that the the animal became more than two years old. No good. I have another tells me it's no good. In fact, bring two more. That's no good. Okay, which is really goes on. And I learned from this more than that I have another source. I have leftover. In other words, I try to make a another animal into another carbon. It turns into why say cattle. We know that a carbon cannot be from cattle. It can only be from goats and sheep. We had this before that turns into something that turns that could be cattle, could be sheep, could be z could be. The problem is why do we need three sources for the same thing? Why don't you three of these? One of them is the worst of the worst. It's older than 2 years old and it's past Passover. You like that? It's past PES. So, it has two. It's too old and too late. You also have something that's in between or let's go to the other side. It doesn't have either. It's before PES and it's a year and a half old. Just he had a mind that it should be an oil and they have something in between. What's the in between? That is one out of the two problems. It's older than one and a half years old, but it's not peso. No, it's past. It's only one and a half years old. It's not two yet, but it's past. So, let's see inside. First words has. more. It's after it's more than two years old. It's after it's the right age. It's one and a half years old. It's already too late. What can you do with something like that? What can you do with an animal that's one and a half years old, but it's after you use it for this one is perfect. It's right before it's not even two years old. The problem is that heed it for another animal. also turns into need all three only say one have the worst case scenario it's more than two years old and it's past this guy's completely out of the parish of but what if it's after but it's not too old it's only a year and a half not two years old yet it's good for maybe it doesn't become because it says these two at the end of the day something got pushed off here nothing went wrong with it it's still less than two years old and it's not even yet could physically bring it for but you messed up with the shouldn't flip into made another seriously interesting name I don't think it's anywhere in chass is the name of m so let's just do uh Very quickd we learn that if somebody has a carbon kas and he in the instead of thinking that this carbon kus which is for fat the messed up and said it's for the blood it's good they're very similar they're both of they're both in the same pos so he messed up in the thought it's good what if he thinks to himself that instead of this carbon should be for fat it's for a carbon of what does that mean? Why did he bring a carbon? He didn't do he didn't sin. So why is he bringing a carbon? So maybe if I take a carbon that comes for a sin and I think to myself that's not for carbon that's for sin. It's for another type of carbon. Maybe it should it should be bad. It's not a good carbon. When is it good when I take two carbon that are the same? Instead of it goes for but for sins over here it started off as a sin and it went for no good. He says, "No, which is what I would call this aes he went from that's for to why is it that I I designated this sheep for my eating and I by mistake the mistake decided he's going to designate it for a special gift to Hashem that has nothing to do with the it works. It's not a problem. Why? Because there's one for all. So remember this one is going to ask a question because it also says so there should be one. Okay. So he said this over. So somebody asked someone she asked if you do the with the wrong intent it's good because different I'm just throwing like the we discussing is avas is a flat frying pan There's no room for oil. Although it has the same amount of oil as a mashes, the mash is deep. It keeps the oil in there. So, it's a deep fry. What happens when you take a potato and put in a deep fry? What comes out? >> A French fry. It's nice and soft. So, check this out. That's hard bread. But if you put it in the it's going to be soft bread. That is super hard because the oil evaporates and there's nothing left and you have a very hard. Now imagine taking that and making a out of that. Not not all mas you do a out of flour. That one you got to do out of the the calls that the the the super super hard impossible to do. The bottom line is that any with his right mind that's not drunk and and his two feet on the ground. knows that this is a this is dry and there's two other ones dry and soft which we're going to so if he he messed them up that's not a mistake when it comes to and they're all the same the same way the same way that's the so let's see you can look at it you know what you're doing this is hard or you take Another type of which is dry has oil mixed into it. Look at it. This one is dry. So I don't consider it a mistake. When it comes to it's not like that. All the are the same exact says but it seems like because you could prove it from what you're doing in the You wouldn't be if you changed the thought and said, "Oh, this is a but based on what you told me before." Say the same thing should have one should be culture another. No, you didn't understand. We were talking about they try to change it from ask. Sorry, did I skip something? No. No. Yeah, of course I did. I went back too much. This is what he's saying. It's not a it's another person called. We're not talking about we're talking about you changed ownership. You change it to a person called and that is kosher. Why? Nachin is dead. Nach is no longer alive. So if you want to change it to the to the carbon of it doesn't it didn't it didn't take effect on my so why do you jump why do you call it just say I brought I want for a dead person that if you treat it like a like a live person then it would be possible that the really is like a what's a nazer didn't sin Another another has to bring a carbon when he wants to be that would be possible. That's a different type of carbon. That's a different type of you're right is okay to is very different apostle as the wait a minute why let's treat that of that of as the of it's like an it's ana it's a gift toe and we said already that if you change designations from a from a to somebody else's to give him it's Okay. Says, "Okay, let me change it again." I do and I go from my to somebody that is another of then it's and he explains why because the reason why it's kosher it's not possible it's kosher cuz I'm going from and that's okay. Yeah, you got what I'm saying? Going from to but not my his he's so I'm saying my should be his and that we said is okay. That was one of the seven things Rabb said. So now what's going on here is in reality the is not arguing on the first but all they're doing is saying that the first one was talking about and that's why it's kosher. Theod is saying that he was talking about and that's why it's possible. There's a culture and a possle but they're talking about two different things but they agree with each other. If you take a carbon and try to make it into that's possible. Why? Because that's a different type of so you're changing the changing type of why are you calling it? Just call it a which means it's a because I'm I'm I'm using the first ever. What was the first that ever existed? 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